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   Simone Smithposted 12 years ago

   Hey Hubbers! Later today, we'll be rolling out a new header.
   
   The biggest change we have made is to streamline navigation bar. This leaves more space for Hubs below.
   
   To navigate to Topics, Answers, Forums, My Account, My Profile, etc., just hover over "explore" or your username.
   
   
   
   There are a couple more details in a short post on our blog, but this is a pretty straightforward change, and part of a series of design updates we'll be rolling out in the coming weeks and months.
   
   I hope you like it!
   
   UPDATE:
   To address the most common questions and comments, let me say that:
   
   1. By clicking on “HubPages” in the header, you will be taken to the Feed
   
   2. We removed Hubbers from the navigation because the link was very rarely clicked
   
   3. Topics, Hubs, Answers, and Forums are under Explore because they are major site features. Everything that supports your account maintenance and Hubbing is under your username. The FAQ and Learning Center links are under your username because they are not site features.
   
   4. There have been some initial bugs with iPad and mobile navigation; most of them are resolved and we’re working out the straggling issues

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      The Markerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is great, nice and clean. Thumbs up!

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I find change of any sort very disconcerting and a contributor to anxiety-induced constipation

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      gamergirlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am loving the CRAP out of this!!

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         alisha4uposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         This is just crap.

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years ago

   Thanks Simone, sounds great!

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   ThePracticalMommyposted 12 years ago

   Looks great! I like that there's a link for the Learning Center now available at the top of the page under the HubPages drop-down menu. It'll be much easier for new hubbers to find!
   Great job!

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   AEvansposted 12 years ago

   I like change! Always something great is happening on HP.
   
   Question while I am here.
   
   
   Is there anyway we can add a reply button in the Q&A so if our question is answered we can reply instead of submitting another answer? Maybe just a little box where we created our answer so that people know we have acknowledged the response. Maybe I shouldn't of asked here, but it is something I have been thinking about.

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      Lord De Crossposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent Pau Deeds and crew. We all get the benefiting, and we all win.

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         kelleywardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Looks great! Thanks for the update!

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      Linda Blissposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      AEvans - How funny,  I was just thinking the same thing about the Q&A Section. Would be great to be able to 'reply' to people's answers rather than having to submit a new 'answer'.

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         Peggy Wposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree!

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      proudmammaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think this would be a great idea! The other issue is the fact you can only submit one answer to the question. So if someone adds an answer later, after you've already answered, you're out of luck on acknowledging any further responses.  This would be a terrific add to new features!

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         Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's the diff between the Q&A and the forums. One's for answering questions and the other is for discussion.

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         homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. I have provided answer before only to have it shot by someone who shared an impartial truth. I wanted to say more, but could not.

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   Anti-Valentineposted 12 years ago

   Just noticed the change a few minutes ago. Looks all right.

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   relacheposted 12 years ago

   I'm getting buggy results from the new header when using it on my iPad.
   
   While the notifications and make a new hub buttons work, the explore and account buttons do not.  Which seems rather strange.

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      Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ayup.  Same here.
      
      
      Just to make the point:  55 million and more iPads have been sold.
      
      The HP  development team should not be ignoring this..

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         kelleywardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I couldn't use the new header on my iphone just fyi. Under my name nothing showed up but the notification tab worked.

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         AEvansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It has only been up for a little while, there were bugs in the IPAD when it first came out too. Give it a little time before getting upset.

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            Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            They should be TESTING changes against iPads and Android.. It is far too large a market to ignore.

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               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I just checked with androd (Kindle Fire)
               
               Broken there, too.
               
               IPad and Kindle Fire combined have an incredible number of users.. But broken on HP..

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               David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I agree Ipads are gaining a lot of popularity and more and more people are using them everyday.
               
               HubPages should make the system interface work well for iPads etc..
               
               I'll just stick to my trusty laptop. Not interested in iPads as of right now.

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   mooboomooposted 12 years ago

   Looks lovely but where has my home page tab gone? How can I get back to it to see the stream?

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      mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm having the same problem.  Can't get to home page.

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         mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         This was so strange cause it changed just as I was editing a Hub.  I thought I was going bonkers!!!  Maybe my home page will come back so I can see the stream.

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            homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            to get to the home page, I just typed in hubpages.com
            But it would be good to have a button. I like to see the feed!

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               mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, got  to see the home page.  No stream, no Hub of the Day, etc.

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               cclitgirlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               If you click on "HubPages" in the upper left corner, it'll take you to your feed page.  Just figured that out. 

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                  HubTubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you so much, cclitgirl!  This is just the information I was looking for! 

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                  homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  thanks, cclitgirl!

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                     Glenn Stokposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh, silly me.  I've been doing it that way anyway, Must be overtired.
                     
                     Thanks, cclitgirl and homesteadbound for bringing that to my attention.
                     
                     The other two things I mentioned still need to be fixed though... Missing hubber list link and the usage of the old profile URL.

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         rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I can't locate the feed either and it seems a bit awkward to have to always go back up to explore 'forum' to browse the forums after we click on a post.

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            Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yes.... There was an excellent flow with that before... it was far better than this...
            
            And Where are the Hubbers button gone? - That I really don't like..
            Many of us use that community list to get to know each other and to find common interests in a glance.. isn't that what a positive community does?
            
            Explore... Merely Highlights those who are able to gain a 95+ hubscore on their hubs and are seen now as being seen to be the 'Preferred/Elite' reading/authors!
            
            For Me (and I'm sure others).. The Alglo that control my hub scores is clearly governed or set to a maximum score of 91..
            
            As soon as any of my hubs reach 90.. they immediately drop back down...
            That does Not reflect the true quality or efforts of my work or that of several others!
            
            So... Now most of us are Set At Mediocre.. And this community 'spirit' is diluted yet again! Why? Why 'Fix' Something that ain't broken and do it at the expense of one of the most positive aspects of the site.. the spirit of the community?
            Other than reshuffling to gain more ad exposure.. Does anyone in designing actually really think of the points above?

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               kittyjjposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I like the Hubbers button too.  Hopefully they will put it back on the header. 

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   mary615posted 12 years ago

   I just checked my account, and my page views numbers are CRAZY.  I keep track of these on each Hub, and the number I'm seeing now is much lower than they should be. 
   I'm going to walk my dog.  Maybe things will be better when I get back.

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      mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Just got back from walking my dog, and my page views are correct now.

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   Victoria Lynnposted 12 years ago

   I couldn't find "Home" either, a button I click on frequently. After experimenting, I found that by clicking on "HubPages" to the left, it takes you there. Check it out!

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    Victoria Lynnposted 12 years ago

    Yes, you can click on "HubPages" to get home to your feed, hub of the day, etc....but I do miss the "home" button. Under explore, I don't see "hubbers," either. I would look at the top hubbers now and then. Is that still somewhere we can access? Thanks.

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       relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       If you use the site search feature, you can still find the general listing of users, but the "hubber" listing by score appears to have been removed from general viewing.
       
       I can't really say that's a problem as 1) it's going to stop people quibbling about the ranking and 2) it will protect top authors from all the hassles that came from being at the top.

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    Field-Of-Flowersposted 12 years ago

    I too was wondering where the home page went. I also noticed that if you want to look at hubs that were written, the list starts out with people who have a score of 100. I liked it the way it was being able to see the hubs as they are published to read them. I'm thinking the next hub I write I'll have to search for it to find it listed. Perhaps I'll be on page 40 something... Just my thoughts on this.

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    FloraBreenRobisonposted 12 years ago

    I figured out how to find the home page, at least on a regular computer. I don't have an ipad. You click on the logo "Hubpages" at the top left hand corner on the banner and that takes you to the home page. Now that I figured that out, I like it better. At first I thought I couldn't find the home page at all, and I did hate that. But it's still there. So I'm a little less frosty to the new banner than I was.

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    This is ridiculous!
    
    Why have the forums been removed from visibility? Why do I have to spend ages digging round my various menus to find them? Is this an attempt to suppress fee speech?

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       mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Forums is under the explore button.

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    Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

    All streamlined and efficient.
    
    I like it, Thank You HubPages for providing all the tools necessary to succeed!

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    relacheposted 12 years ago

    I got the "feed" by clicking on the HubPages logo.... which is exactly the same as how it worked before the change.

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       rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I found it, but there used to be a 'Home' function on the header also, which is where I always clicked.

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          relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          If you look at the URL, that is the homepage for people who are signed in.

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          FloraBreenRobisonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Now you have to actually click on the logo "Hubpages"

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    
    What The.....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

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       mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       This is exactly how I felt!

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          ElizaDooleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Me too! Now I have to think "vertically" instead of "horizontally". Ow!

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    ngurecoposted 12 years ago

    It looks great and easier to navigate. Thought 'faq' and 'learning center' should be under 'explore' instead of being under 'my username'

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       FloraBreenRobisonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I was surprised not to see them under explore.

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    mary615posted 12 years ago

    This change reminds me of an Easter egg hunt.  We just have to hunt a little harder and click on more buttons. It will be fine once we get used to it, I'm sure.

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       Peggy Wposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Change will keep our minds sharp.........hopefully!  Haha!

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    For what it's worth...
    
    When in forums:
    
    Before change: clicked "forum" at top.
    
    After change: click little, teeny, tiny "All Forums" at upper left.

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       mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I'm glad I had surgery to correct my vision.  I would not see that at all.

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    Cardisaposted 12 years ago

    I like the clean look and I don't mind clicking on the logo for my feed but it would make more sense to me to add a home button in the drop down menu for the user name and when we click the logo it takes us to HP homepage. That's just my take.

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       mary615posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That makes sense to me, Cardisa.  Why don't you mention that to the "powers that be"

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       relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The feed is the homepage.  Your suggestion is redundant.

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          Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          How can my suggestion be redundant? The HP homepage is different from our personal feeds!

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             Will Apseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Once you are signed in the feed is the homepage.
             
             I'm not really a fan of the feed. Before you were able to see what pages were doing well at a glance. But then social is everything these days.

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             relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             You will only see the homepage if signed out.  You get the feed page if signed in.  If you are signed in and you try to go to the homepage, it will automatically redirect you to the feed page.

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             rLcasaLmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             just like any other sites, the home is where the feed is.

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    VendettaVixenposted 12 years ago

    Not to sound ungrateful, but I'm not coping too well with the new header and my screenreader. hovering doesn't work too well for me. Hopefully I'll be able to figure it out. Otherwise, I'll have to find somewhere else to publish.
    

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       Simone Smithposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I"m really sorry about that, VendettaVixen. I bet it's something we can easily fix. I've made a note of the problem and hopefully it'll be resolved soon!

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          VendettaVixenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Simone, I seem to have found a way around the problem. It's no biggie. I really do appreciate the help, but you guys are busy right now. Focus on things that'll benefit everyone, not just me.
          
          You're awesome.

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    Sally's Troveposted 12 years ago

    Where are "Hubbers"?

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    Victoria Lynnposted 12 years ago

    Sally's Trove--that's what I want to know. I like checking out the top hubbers from time to time.

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe there aren't any anymore.

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          FloraBreenRobisonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          That has indeed been removed.

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             Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             That's interesting.

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    Sally's Troveposted 12 years ago

    What's the logic for FAQ being under my name and not under "explore"?

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    The Writers Dogposted 12 years ago

    Absolutely loving the new look header! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
    

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    Victoria Lynnposted 12 years ago

    Seems like the Learning Center should be under explore, too, and not under our names....

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Agreed.

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    kerrygposted 12 years ago

    Making the forums that much harder to get to is probably a good thing. Maybe I'll get more work done!

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That's interesting, too. Hadn't thought of that. Could be a real plus.

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    Sally's Troveposted 12 years ago

    So, why did HP remove the "Hubbers" feature? It showcased who HP thought had merit.

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       paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       This is just a shot in the dark, but maybe there are more stalking issues than just those we have been made aware of in the forums. This is just pure speculation on my part.

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    christianajohanposted 12 years ago

    Thank you everyone but where is the hubbers button? I keep on looking for it but nothing.

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    brittanytoddposted 12 years ago

    I LOVE IT!  THANK YOU!!!!!!

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    Glenn Stokposted 12 years ago

    Wonderful change. Leaves more room for the Hub itself.
    
    But two things got lost, plus a mistake with the profile link...
    
    1. Link to Hubbers list ( should be under "explore" )
    
    2. Link to feed http://hubpages.com/feed/ 
    
    3. Profile link is using the old URL that needs to follow the 301 redirect, rather than using the subdomain URL.
    
    
    Other than that, I'm happy.

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    Arlene V. Pomaposted 12 years ago

    Duh, hey!  Thanks for the heads up!  I do like reading articles from the feed.  How easy is that?  Just hit the HubPages logo!  Way too easy!

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    David 470posted 12 years ago

    I think I am like this new interface.

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    tirelesstravelerposted 12 years ago

    I was thrilled with the new header until I tried to look at some of your profiles that I don't follow yet.  There are no links? Did I miss something?

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       tirelesstravelerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry, just didn't expect posts to take me to profiles.  The learning curb is a little slow here.

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

    I thought I posted a comment here, but I'm not finding it. Just a bit of feedback:
    
    I like the overall design of the new look, but I agree with those who are having trouble on the iPad. I use it quite a bit for commenting on HP and it is not fully functional now. Some of the buttons are placed in a way that makes the system think you're trying to 'follow' yourself while on the iPad, when you're just trying to click on the forum or something.
    
    Can we please have the listings of Hubbers back? I will miss it! That was one way I found new people to follow, and interesting hubs to read! I've met great people through that feature!
    
    Thanks for working to improve the site - and for letting us offer initial feedback here!

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I just discovered that the Hubber listing still exists on the blog. Guess they haven't changed the header there yet.

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    truthfornowposted 12 years ago

    Overall it is a nice change.  It took me a while to find my home feed, but I found it.  Are they going to get rid of the hubbers page?

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    Helena Rickettsposted 12 years ago

    Took me by complete surprise a couple of hours ago but I think I like it!

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    rLcasaLmeposted 12 years ago

    On the notifications tab, the text color is all gray making it a bit difficult to discern in just a glimpse. White texts' distinction apparently cannot easily be seen from  normal to bold.
    But, so far, I liked it.

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    lobobrandonposted 12 years ago

    I love the notification tab now as Ctrl+click finally opens the links in new tabs. Awesome work

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    PaulGoodman67posted 12 years ago

    It's not always easy to assess changes as you get used to a way of doing things, but I do have some misgivings.  The new look is neater, but I am finding that I can no longer access pages that I use all the time, such as my account and the forums, with just one simple click.

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    Pcunixposted 12 years ago

    100 million tablets.  I have NO idea how many hundred million browsing capable smart phones.
    
    All now incapable of navigating HubPages.   Brilliant.

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    alphagirlposted 12 years ago

    wow a pleasant surprise. But where do we post a question.? Before we use to just see simply. where do i go if i have question?

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    Marketing Meritposted 12 years ago

    Don't like it...sorry!
    I've always found Hubpages navigation difficult and, for me at least, you have made the situation worse, not better!

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    lobobrandonposted 12 years ago

    From the replies here it seems many are against change as they find it difficult to navigate.. They're all drop downs and so you won't have to click twice and except for HOME everything is fine and easy to locate. I don't know how it looks or feels on a tab but on a laptop its fine

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    relacheposted 12 years ago

    Hey, admin team!
    
    Your navigation on tablets is still buggy.  The account and explore drop-down menus now appear on my iPad  but the click/tap actions don't work properly or consistently.  Do you have any idea how annoying it is to have to manually type the URLs to navigate the majority of the HubPages website on the device I prefer to use to access the site the most? 
    
    How come the testing process for this change seems to have been skipped over?  Doesn't messing up the navigation of the site seemed poorly-timed considering that Paul E is at SXSW and the site will undoubtedly soon be flooded with another wave of brand-new users?

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    Dave Mathewsposted 12 years ago

    I was totally lost and confused with the new header having not been pre-warned of the change. Imagine my surprise to see that I could not access my stats, or the Answers and Forum sections.

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    lobobrandonposted 12 years ago

    It would be nice if Home could be added under the explore tab
    I don't use it much any more but I do check the hub of the day almost every day and keep a track of the blog updates from there.
    
    PS: - Of course I can always type in hubpages.com and go straight there but the addition would make this complete (for a laptop and PC) not sure about iPads and tablets.

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       alphagirlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hmm just clicking around header! Explore to me is confusing! I think it is harder to find things if you are new to hubpages! I haveen here 6 months and get confused now!
       I think things regarding nab should be a no brainier! Seasoned users like me now are frustrated.

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       Glenn Stokposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       lobobrandon, a link home is already there. Just click the HubPages logo and it will take you to the home feed page.
       
       The only think really missing, that I reported yesterday, is the link to the list of Hubbers. I hope Simone noticed my post on that.
       
       And the link to out profile should really be fixed too as it follows the 301 redirect (so it works right) instead of linking directly. I reported that one too yesterday.
       
       I pre-ordered the New iPad (version 3) and Apple says they shipped it already for arrival on Friday.  So I'll get to see those problems mentioned here with pull-down menus on the iPod. As a programmer, I am assuming the problem may be that the iPad does not support pull-down menus. But I'll find out soon.

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          Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          iPad indeed supports drop-down menus. We can use the drop-down to access our accounts and profiles, but it doesn't work for the Explore tab.  Also, how intuitive are those tabs for users unfamiliar with the site?

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    Simone Smithposted 12 years ago

    Hi everyone! Thanks for your feedback.
    
    To address the most common questions / comments:
    
    1. You can access the Feed by clicking on the “HubPages” logo in the header
    
    2. “Hubbers” has been removed from the navigation because few people clicked on it. Our plan is to better feature Hubbers on Hubs themselves so that they’re discovered through the context of their great work- not in an out-of-context listing.
    
    3. Topics, Hubs, Answers, and Forums are under Explore because they are major site features. Everything that supports your account maintenance and Hubbing is under your username. The FAQ and Learning Center links are under your username because they are not site features.
    
    4. Most of the tablet and mobile browsing issues have been resolved; we’re still working out the kinks, so thanks for your patience, and my apologies for any inconvenience!

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       2. You have the stats, but this was a feature I found most useful. I clicked on it a lot!
       
       3. If HP thinks site FAQs and Learning Center info are not site features, I'm amazed.

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       ngurecoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you Simone for the update.
       
       May I ask you this: how does one find the learning center if one is logged out, or you are not a registered member of Hubpages and you want to learn more about how things are done here?

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          Jason Menayanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hi ngureco: You can click the "faq" link in the footer, and the large "Learning Center" button on the next page.

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          Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly, and you were so much more kind than I.

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       relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hry, the forum button just worked correctly!  Thanks for that fix and I'll let you know if i find anything else amiss with the navigation on tablets.

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       Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Works on iPad now as far as I have seen - thanks!

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          lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Pcunix didn't notice that I could go to the home page by clicking the icon

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       Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for sorting out the Kinkys Simone
       
       Where is the article base for Keywords like... say... Footfetish?

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

    I agree with the suggestion that potential users may want to have ready access to FAQs and the learning center. I also agree that the Hubber tab is useful.  Still not fully functional on my iPad, BTW. I can use one drop-down, but not the other.
    
    Wish I knew how to reach Paul at SXSW - I'd love to welcome him to Austin!   At least our yucky weather cleared up!

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

    +1 to Relache's comment! I can now get to the forum!

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