Making Money Online by Partnering With HubPages

Making money with hubpages, the beginning

I have wanted to write this hub for some time, but swore I wouldn't do it until I earned my first $100 payout from Adsense. Well, that time has come - I've earned my first Adsense payout and I finally get to write the hub.

This article (hub in the local jargon) is aimed primarily at the newbie to Hubpages; it is intended to offer encouragement and perhaps some tips on how to make money online, using Hubpages as a "partner" in the effort. Making money online isn't easy, especially for the beginner to the whole concept, but my own experience is clear evidence that it is possible.

Along the way I also want to offer some explanations to the newcomer to Hubpages that doesn't have any idea what Hubpages is all about, or any concept of how to make money online. On a side note to hubbers that already understand Hubpages, this hub is written with almost no SEO, very little in the way of keywords, and no real effort to make money from it even though it is still writing online, and still using Hubpages as a partner. It is more of a diary of my experience these past few months writing through Hubpages. You will find links to my other work scattered throughout the hub, but that is far as the money making end of it goes. All the links will open a new window - that way they can be checked out if desired and the window closed, returning the reader to this hub.

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Pertinent information about Wilderness

Although my profile page is, of course, open to all to peruse, a little more information about me and my history might be valuable to newcomers.

While I have been to college, my studies and training there were in the sciences - I stayed as far away from things like English or Writing as I possibly could. I am in no way an experienced writer - I've written exactly one letter to the editor of a local newspaper and nothing else! I had (note the past tense) no interest in being published, and did not believe that anyone would be interested in what I had to say anyway. I can turn a computer on and surf the web a little but that is the limit of my internet knowledge. Oh, and I knew what google was - something to help me find the information I want.

Drawn to Hubpages by a link to a controversial hub, I first arrived sometime in March, 2010 and made a few comments on that particular hub. I was laid off from work at the time and had lots of time to surf around, eventually the Hubpages forum came to my attention - that looked like fun!

You have to join Hubpages to post on the forum, but it's free to join, so I did. I even wrote a hub in late April, and another in late May. That was fun, and I got a few comments on them, but that was about it. Then I began to read something in the forums about making money online with Hubpages and my ears perked right up (remember, I was unemployed!).

I wrote my first hub intended as a serious effort to make money online on June 6, 2010 and have continued off and on since then. I went back to work, and that put a serious crimp in my Hubpages activity, but I haven't stopped writing and the money has begun to come in.

About HubPages, from an authors viewpoint

HubPages is a great place to start a freelance writing career, whether that career be for money or for fun. Whether it is part time or full time. Even whether you are an accomplished writer or a total newbie as I was.

HubPages is a great community of writers and authors, and most are more than willing to help a newbie learn the ropes of freelance writing. It is a very user-friendly place, although there are rules that must be followed (aren't there always?). The rules are not onerous; upon joining I hadn't read the TOS (I didn't know what that was) and never ran afoul of the rules anyway. I might point out, though, that this is not a good way to begin - read the TOS in the help section before writing hubs or posting on the forums! There is no cost to join HubPages - it is free to partner here in your writing. My only cost to date has been less than $5 for props to take some pictures for one hub.

While there are many things HubPages is, there are also things it is not. HubPages is not a social site for gossip, although the forums sometimes degenerate into that. It is not intended as a site simply to place backlinks to other sites - let Digg, Stumbleupon and other such sites perform that task. I have read several articles on the web saying that HubPages is a scam; inevitably the writer either wants to write garbage for the purpose of providing links to their other work elsewhere or simply won't do the work to publish quality hubs. HubPages is not a scam; it is a business, making money. When you make money online with HubPages, a part of that money goes to HubPages to maintain the site you use for free and for profit. I repeat, it is a business.

Hubpages is also not a "get rich quick" scheme, nor is it an "easy way to make money online". There are no such things; to be successful you must work hard (though not as hard as digging ditches!) and give it time (though not an excessive amount). Few people make the minimum $100 payout from Adsense in less than 6 months, but that income can go on for months or even years from hubs written long ago.

June, 2010 - the first month trying to make money online

June, 2010, was the first month I published a hub with the intention of making money online, so lets start there. I had read and understood the concept of residual income from HubPages - I had no expectations of making a million dollars the first year (we'll save that for the second year!). I had hopes for something that first month, but certainly not much.

I also understood that traffic is the key to making money online. Without traffic, there will be no income, while high traffic figures will probably (probably!) produce more income. I set myself a goal of one hub per day and spent the rest of my time trying to learn the ropes. What were, and how to use, keywords? How to present a page that was visually pleasing to most people? Where to place photos or ads? I knew that what I was writing probably wouldn't be very successful, but that was all right - I could always edit my work later. I experimented by writing hubs that covered a wide range of subjects, trying to find something that fit my own knowledge and abilities. I refuse to present information about something I know nothing about; quality is king and without that knowledge I do not feel I can present anything of value to the reader (this hub may be the exception - we'll see!)

I also spent considerable time in the forums. I find them fun and interesting in many cases, but more important was to participate in the community and to learn. I wanted to meet other hubbers. I read dozens and dozens of hubs, written by far more experienced hubbers, and when the rare opportunity to help someone else presented itself I tried to help out. Become a part of the community; it's important!

Seeing my traffic numbers was exciting, although not so much when I figured out that it was all from HubPages readers and they very seldom earn me anything (click on "my account", then "traffic sources"). I had signed up for the Adsense and Amazon affiliate programs, but didn't know how to find my earnings and thought I had earned nothing all month. I kept writing, though, and by the end of the month had accumulated some 800 page impressions (my hubs had been read 800 times). Eventually I discovered that I had made $.02 in June - a happy number as I had though it was 0. I had had no clicks for Adsense nor sales from Amazon.

By the end of June I had written 21 hubs (including the earlier 2) - I was satisfied with that, having taken some time off from writing when family came to visit for 2 weeks around the 4th of July.

I was of course disappointed in my effort to make money online, but only a little bit. I still understood that it would take time to "age" my hubs to the point that I would get the "organic" (non-HubPages) traffic necessary to earn any money. Overall, I was satisfied. I had learned a great deal about using keywords (I found the google keyword tool). I learned to put my keywords in the title and first capsule, sprinkling them through the hub as well. I learned not to put a photo in the top text capsule (I nearly always use photos - they break the hub visually) and to put Amazon capsules in the second. Don't make long capsules; keep them short and use more of them.

July, 2010

July was another June, with the difference that numbers began to grow. I was still in school, learning all I could about writing hubs. I learned to group my hubs by using the group function offered by HubPages. I learned how to use RSS feeds and with help and advice from Sunforged I managed to post rss feeds to all of my hubs on a variety of sites, and then to post rss feeds of individual groupings of hubs written on similar topics.

I worked hard on SEO practices and continued to learn. How to use the google keyword tool. How to use long tail keywords. Better use of tags.

Promotion raised it's head and I tried to learn how to promote my hubs offsite. It didn't take long to find out that there is considerable controversy about backlinking; some hubbers swear by it and others claim it's worthless. My own decision was to forget about backlinking except for the rss feeds already done and the links I always try to provide between hubs.

Traffic increased in July to around 2300 page impressions and I began to see more and more organic views in that. A few clicks earned me $3 in adsense and I got my first Amazon sale, netting $.20.

Once again I felt that I had something to be pleased about, particularly the traffic figure for the month.

August - things begin to move a little

I went back to work in late July, working long odd hours, and it severely limited my time on HubPages. I was lucky to publish 3 hubs a week instead of 7, but we can't always have everything we want. I did the best I could, and published whenever possible.

The learning process continued - I finally found some information on the use of the keyword tool and discovered I had usually done it wrong. I had been considering what came up as a possibility, instead of only looking at those phrases in the "exact" section of the tool. I also decided to use terms with relatively low search rates as an experiment. This was successful; some of my best performing hubs have keywords that google shows get very little traffic.

I continued to diversify my topics, adding some travel hubs to the mix. They did not perform well, but time will tell if I need more of them.

August ended on a great note with some 5000 views, quite a few more clicks and earnings of $13 from adsense. I also made my first payout of $11 from Amazon, which was really encouraging in that there was finally some money actually coming. True, I wouldn't see it for 2 months, but it was coming!

September, a disappointing month

The month started with Labor day week, and traffic and earnings were poor. I also discovered that nearly 20% of my hubs were not indexed by Google, from the 10 latest ones to earlier ones I had modified. The forums pointed me to a hub by Edweirdo, about using older hubs to promote newer ones, which sounded like it might help. I instituted a tag for cold hubs and tried it out but to date it doesn't seem to have helped any. I'm still working on it.

The pace of my writing continued to be slow; I am not interested in devoting my entire life to earning money. A few hours per week would have to suffice, and I ended the month with 17 new hubs.

Eventually most of the hubs were indexed, but a few remained through the entire month without indexing (one took over 6 weeks, well into October, before finally being indexed) and I believe that contributed some to the poor traffic showing during the month. Late in the month I began the slow process of backlinking all my hubs through Xomba, and even wrote one short article there in the hopes of better indexing and traffic. While there were two good weeks, setting personal records for both one day traffic and earnings, there were also two very poor weeks.

All was not totally lost, however. By the end of the month there had been around 4600 page impressions, and earnings topped $27. During the month I had passed 10,000 views total, earning another accolade from HubPages, and I was reasonably pleased, noting that the earnings for September had once more doubled the previous month. By this time my total earnings was about $44; if October again doubled those in September I would make payout of $100 in October. We'll see.

I did learn one valuable lesson through the poor traffic weeks. Statistics are just that, not an indication of daily traffic or earnings. I had known that, but had not seen either one vary as wildly day to day as they did in September. Bad days will happen, but even very bad weeks do not mean the concept is failing; it means it is a bad week and nothing more. Indeed, the last day of September set a new one day high for earnings, and by quite a bit. It is a lesson I won't forget; it will take several months of poor results (and not the expected doldrums of summer) to disappoint me again.

October, 2010

October was the month I hoped to make my first Adsense payout. The month started with a bang; page impressions, income and clicks were all up. By the end of the first week my hopes for payout were high, even though I still realized I was unlikely to double September's record earnings. The second week was also good, but by the time the third week rolled around income had fallen badly. By Friday, October 29, I realized that it just wasn't going to happen - I still needed several dollars and Saturday had been a poor day every week from July to date.

On an encouraging note, I received the payment from Amazon that I had earned in July. A total of $10, it was the first earnings I had received in my hot little hand.

Fortunately, the angels of contrariness smiled on me and for the first time Saturday was a good day in both impressions and income. Friday had set a one day earning record, but Saturday turned right around and repeated the process, with a one day record for the number of clicks, daily income and the highest paying click I had ever received. By bedtime Saturday night I was less than a dollar from payout, and fully expected to make that the next day, my last chance in October.

Sunday morning it was with excitement and anticipation that I once more checked my Adsense earnings. Rats! Only 3 cents. That was OK, though - I very seldom make anything early in the morning. The monthly total, however, told a different story - I had received several late night clicks and was over the payout limit already! A very happy day, indeed, and one that made the publishing of this hub, started so long ago, possible.

It is worth noting that the pace has picked up; after crossing 10,000 total views in September my HubPages statistics show over 23,000 total views with a few hours yet to go in October. This hub makes my 87th; my writing has slowed but not stopped, and in spite of the slowing pace of my writing views have gone from 10,000 in the first 3 months to 13,000 in a little over a month's time. It does indeed take time to "age" a hub.

*Edit* A quick update for November. It was a disappointing month for Adsense as I had hoped (but not expected) to make payout again and fell well short with only about $68. On the plus side, however, I earned $83 from Amazon during the month which was a huge surprise as I had never topped $6 before! The bottom line for November was that once more, and for probably the last time, I managed to more than double the previous month's earnings. The last time because the numbers are simply getting far too large to continue doubling each month and because I expect poor earnings after the upcoming Christmas buying season.

*Edit in 2012* With the introduction of the HP earnings program I have made payout each month for over a year now. The logistics of actually earning payout have changed considerably; I earn very little from Adsense, far more from HP earnings and even a steady payout from Amazon. The earnings reported in this hub are therefore not particularly applicable to the programs available today, but the traffic numbers are. The Panda (and it's updates) have changed things, but the traffic reported here is quite possible for anyone.

Stats page screenshot from June 4, 2013
Stats page screenshot from June 4, 2013 | Source

*Edit, June 4, 2013* A final update on my experience with HubPages. It is almost 3 years to the day since writing my first "real" hub and today saw another major milestone; I crossed one million total views this morning. At the time this hub was started, in late 2010, such a thing was beyond imagination but it has happened, and with a total income over the three years of something over $10,000. Not a princely sum considering the time put into learning and writing, but the dollars earned per hour of work continually grows as those old hubs still produce income three years later. The hub with the highest daily traffic was written in August of 2010 and is a testament to the idea of writing "evergreen" hubs.

I went "back to school" last year, in the Apprenticship Program; something I can highly recommend. It was not easy getting through it, but it was well worth the effort and I would encourage anyone new to HubPages to do so. Writing on the web is not static, and there is always something new coming up that will require ever more "going to school" one way or another.

It may take a while to earn this one!
It may take a while to earn this one!

Final impressions

I have proven, at least to myself, that it is indeed possible to make money online by partnering with HubPages as a free lance writer; in 4½ months I have earned 3 different payouts for a total of about $140. With no experience whatsoever and no knowledge of how internet affiliate marketing works, I have managed to pull a small amount of income out of the process and fully expect that income to continue to grow over time. It has taken a lot of work (the learning curve is steep for a newbie such as myself) but it has been worth it. Many of my own hubs earn nothing, and as such are failures, but enough make money online to make the experience a success.

I have also enjoyed most my time spent on HubPages. I have participated in several contests from other hubbers both to improve my skills and to simply have fun writing. I've written (I hope) interesting and valuable hubs as well as some just for fun. I have written about personal opinions, humorous happenings from my past and from my own knowledge base about home improvement. I've written purely fictional humor hubs and about interesting and fun places I've been. Occasionally I get a little tired of the work and take a break by either posting on the forums and interacting with the other mad "hubbers" here or writing a fun hub just for the pleasure of doing it. I watch my statistics and take encouragement from the little successes and, always, try to learn more about the art of making money online.

I would definitely do it all over again. I started the project as a way to provide some small additional income after my retirement (not too many years away); anything there would help after the hit the recession put on my retirement funds. I think there is little doubt that I will accomplish that future goal with only a reasonable amount of work; some hubbers report incomes in the thousands per month, which is far more than I hope for with only part time effort. A few hundred per month, perhaps a thousand, would add considerably to other income when I leave the workforce once and for all.

If you, the reader, are interested in making some extra money online, partnering with HubPages is the best method I've heard of. As I've said, it is not a get rich quick scheme, nor is it particularly easy (at least in the beginning) but is fun and it is free. HubPages offers a referral program, and you can join in the fun and income by joining HubPages here. It is a no-risk action; there is no cost and no one will bug you to do anything. I receive a weekly email update from HubPages because I asked to, but no one fills my email box with trash. I offer my own help and knowledge, such as it is, to anyone wishing to become a free lance writer; why not give it a try?

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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

If it has inspired you then it has served its purpose. And I thank my fellow hubbers for making it all possible; their assistance has been invaluable.

Thanks for the comment; it's good to know that I've perhaps helped someone.


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samsons1 6 years ago from Tennessee

up & useful! Thanks Wilderness, for the inspiration. I keep watching, maybe next month...


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stephhicks68 6 years ago from Bend, Oregon

Great work - a nice overview for people wondering how HubPages works and if you can make money here.


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snakebaby 6 years ago from Boston, MA, USA

Very impressive! Have learned something and wondering about this: "I learned not to put a photo in the top text capsule (I nearly always use photos - they break the hub visually) and to put Amazon capsules in the second.", I had no idea about this part, is it really proven true that putting photo to the first paragraph would hurt (what)? I joined hubpages with intention to promote my other websites, didn't expect to make $$ off of it at all till my (my daughter's to be exact) first bakugan hub made us waffle $4.67 with only one awesome click from nowhere! That encouraged me so much, and that is why you see I got tons of bakugan hubs. But $$ hasn't been good after that:( But I've become crazy about hubpages since,hehe. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the answer to my questions above.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Samsons: I glad you found some inspiration here - that was the primary reason I wrote it. It will come with some work on your part. Perhaps not real easy, but it will happen and then keep happening.

Stephhicks: I see so many newbies wondering if it really works - if you really can make money partnering with HubPages. Well, this is the evidence, as well as some idea of how it works. Thanks for the comment.

Snakebaby: Yes, I believe it to be true. Adsense or Amazon ads need to be "above the fold" - that is, in the first part of the hub. This is the primary area that all viewers see, and will get the most attention from readers. If you choose instead to put a photo there then the ads will have to elsewhere instead of that prime "real estate" area. Whether or not you want an Adsense ad there or an Amazon ad will depend on what kind of hub you are writing, but one of them needs to be right at the top, readily visible to visitors. The further down a hub the ads are, the more chance that a reader will not see them at all. This comes under the concept of optimizing the hub itself, rather than optimizing for high traffic. Both are necessary for best results.


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Peggy W 6 years ago from Houston, Texas

Thank you for answering one of my questions in the forum. This lead to checking out what you write and thus...this hub filled with good and useful information. We can all learn from your efforts and you are most gracious in teaching what you know to newbies and us oldsters as well. :-)


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you for the compliment and comment. If I can help someone out in the writing projects it makes it worthwhile to me. Glad you found it useful.


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De Greek 6 years ago from UK

A very nice hub. Well done. :-)

May I quote you (and place a link on my story to this hub) in one of the hubs I intend to write?


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you for the compliment. If you truly think my ramblings are worth quoting, please feel free to do so. I guess there's a first time for everything. :-)


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hathibelagal 6 years ago from A jungle inn

Very inspirational. Just 6 months old on Hubpages, and you have started making money already.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you. I mostly wanted to show newbies that it is indeed possible to make money this way. If I can inspire someone to do the same, it's been worth it.


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Johnny Joe 6 years ago from USA

Hi, great hub. The way you explained it is really awesome and makes every one to read till the end. keep posting..


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thanks! I just hope that it will encourage some to keep going, not give up - it will happen with time.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Indeed, we will never succeed by quitting. You are certainly correct in that persistence and effort are keys to any success.

If I have inspired you to continue, then my purpose is fulfilled. Thank you for the feedback.


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AliciaC 6 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

Thank you for the detailed review of your progress at HubPages. It was very inspirational for a relatively new HubPages member like me. (By the way, I love your avatar photo!)


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you, Alicia, for the feedback and compliment. That was the primary reason for my writing it - to inspire other newbies like myself to keep going rather than give up. If it has do so for you then it has accomplished it's purpose.

My avatar is my little grandson in a very special photo. Glad you like it.


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Mark Ewbie 6 years ago from Euroland

Great hub, read from beginning to end, a rarity for me.

Thanks.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

If you read all my ramblings here, it must have been useful. Thanks for the comment and feedback - it helps to know I've assisted someone in their efforts.


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bogerk 6 years ago from Midwest

This is a great hub! I have made $0.16 in my first three weeks with 16 hubs and am glad to see that the number can increase over time if you just keep writing and do a little social networking.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Congratulations - you are doing better than I did. Absolutely keep writing - it takes time to age a hub and you will find that income climbs by itself so to speak.

Many hubbers claim that the social networks are of very limited value, and I do use them either, but they certainly can't hurt.


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BobbiRant 6 years ago from New York

I do not understand why the rest of us are considered garbage writers or slackers though.


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gmmurgirl 6 years ago from Pilipinas

Wow, this is a great informative hub for a newbie like me. I am not a writer either and your story truly inspired me. I just got started writing over 5 weeks ago even though I've been a member for 2 months. Thanks, this hub is really a great encouragement.


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gmmurgirl 6 years ago from Pilipinas

Hmmn. I have a gut feeling Hubpages is a great way to hone your writing talent and earn on the side.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

BobbiRant: When I see 200 word hubs written with little to no grammar, poor spelling and no information at all for the reader, but written for the sole purpose of providing a backlink to another site I consider it garbage. That is not the purpose of HP - rather it is to provide quality articles to give readers what they are searching for. There are also "writers" that use "spin" software to effectively copy other work and re-publish it here. These are easy to spot as the hub will make almost no sense at all, just a lot of words strung together and almost impossible to understand. Garbage.

Slackers? Not at all. People write at different paces, and not everyone is interested in making large sums of money. I myself do not write nearly as much as I could, but only when I want to. It is not my intention to berate anyone for not writing more - that is purely a personal decision.

gmmurgurl: That sounds very much like my own history. I could wish I had written more early on, but it is done now and I am quite pleased with what I have accomplished. Keep working at it; you will find success with effort and time!

And yes, absolutely, it is a great place to learn to write while making something at the same time. It is also a great way to learn the ins and outs of making money online by writing. There is an enormous amount to learn, but the information is all right here for the taking.


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prasetio30 6 years ago from malang-indonesia

Never give up is the important key to get success in Hubpages. Thanks for share your personal experience. I am glad to know that. I also learn much from you. Rating up.

Prasetio


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You sure got that right - the surest way to fail at HubPages is to give up. You really can make money online by partnering with HubPages if you just keep going.

I'm glad you found the hub useful; thanks for the comment.


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jcales 6 years ago

very inspiring. October was the real winner for you. A true treat at the end of the month. It seems I keep seeing that the number of hubs you have x 1.2 is what you will essentially make so far.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Yes, October was a real winner for me. While I fully expect to make more money online in future months, and meet larger goals, I will never again have the thrill of the first payout. It was a real shot in the arm.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the kind of statistic you report. There are simply too many variables to consider to make it valuable or something you can count on. Approximately 25% of my hubs bring in no money at all or very small amounts. If even one or two of these non-performers had done well instead, my payout could have happened a month earlier.

The time of year can make a difference - summer (although I haven't experienced one yet) is reportedly slower.

One of my newer hubs is doing very well, considering it's age. Had I written it near the beginning of my experience here instead of later it could easily have effected my result positively and the reverse is certainly possible with some of the performing older hubs.

With these kinds of variables (and there are many more) it is important to set goals, but always remember that they are only goals and a small bit of bad luck can put off your own experience for a while. Don't allow yourself to get discouraged - it will happen with time and effort!


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GmaGoldie 6 years ago from Madison, Wisconsin

Very motivational - thank you! The hard work, the long hours, the reward will be there!


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Indeed, it will, Goldie. Keep writing and especially keep learning and you will find a well earned reward.

Thank you for the comment. I glad you found it useful and motivational - that's why I wrote it.


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charlesroring 6 years ago

Thanks for sharing this story. I really appreciate it. I have been writing for years through my websites and blogs but when I arrive in hubpages, I should say that it is the best writing platform on the internet that I've ever used. One of the most important features that Hubpages.com provides is the suggested tag. I really like it because I do not have to read my article all over again to find keywords that are suitable tags. Hubpages really help us writers. Thanks.


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thismamaworksit 6 years ago

I just loved reading this hub! Very inspirational and fun to read. I am quite new to hubpages but I have been blogging for about a year. I find my biggest issue to be time and then time management when I do have the time...make sense? I have so many ideas in my head floating around I just need to get them out of my head and into the computer. Good luck!


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Charles: Yes, indeed, HP does help the writers, and the suggested tags is one of the ways. I always check them out and use what seems reasonable. Thanks for the comment, and you are most welcome.

thismamaworksit: Time is a problem for me too, ever since I went back to work after being laid off. I simply cannot devote the time to HP that I want to, not if I want a life as well. I simply keep notes and write when I can and when I feel like it. Thank you for the comment and the good luck wish.


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Victoria Stephens 6 years ago from London

Hi Wilderness,

It was so lovely to read your story, thank you for sharing it. Well done for being so persistent at the beginning. I’m still quite a newbie here but I love it already.

Best wishes.xxx


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afk07 6 years ago

Nice article... ++


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Kdban101 6 years ago

very inspirational hub, thanks for sharing your experience.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Victoria: Thank you for the "well done". I think the key at the beginning is to realize that it will take time, and that if you quit writing and wait to see income you will wish you hadn't. Consider the lost time and opportunity if you wait 6 months to see if you are "wasting time" on HP.

afk07: Thanks for the compliment; it is appreciated.

Kdbab101: I'm glad you enjoyed it, and you are most welcome. I hope to inspire more people to write on HubPages.


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Dee aka Nonna 6 years ago

Thank you! Your hub not only inspires but encourages... I need a ton of both because I get weary not having the time I think I need. Great hub!


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Well, Dee, I don't have the time to write as I want either. I just do what I can now and keep going. I wish I could devote all my time to making money online instead of working at a job, but I can't. My grandchildren are more important to me than writing, as is my wife so writing time is limited.

Just do whatever you can with the time you have. If it takes several days to write a new hub, so be it - at least it's written!

I'm happy that I could inspire and encourage you with your own writing - that's exactly why I wrote this hub.


Website Examiner 6 years ago

Congratualations on your success! It is great to see how far you have come in a reasonably short period of time. Your effort and open-minded, systematic approach are admirable. You deserve people's respect and support.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you, WE. I am very pleased with my results so far, and you are part of the reason it has happened. Your comments and help have played a large part in my experience here and it has been much appreciated. Thank you.

This hub is just a part of my efforts to return the help you and others have offered me by passing it on to others. Judging by the comments above it has been at least somewhat effective in that, and that pleases me as well.

Again, thanks for your efforts in my success.


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livelonger 6 years ago from San Francisco

Great hub. It took me about 9 months to get my first $100 payout from AdSense. Now I earn about $450 a month total (almost $400/mo from AdSense alone). It does take exactly what you mention: some "hard" work and patience. The fact that you reached payout in only 6 months portends some pretty impressive earnings for you in the future...


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Here I'm supposed to be encouraging you and instead you're encouraging me! Thanks for the comment - that's the kind of earnings I'm looking forward to. If I can just find the time to keep up the work I'll make it fine - I'm still finding new goals to set and meet (almost made a $10 day yesterday, and that will be exciting).

I hope you're right about the impressive future earnings; that's what all the work now is all about.


TopUniverse 6 years ago

Congrats for reaching your first adsense payout.I appreciate your effort and confidence especially at the beginning. As a beginner after reading this hub, I have more confidence for getting success.

Hard work will pay every one. I wish you to earn even higher in the coming months. All the best.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thanks for the congrats, TopUniverse - I expect to reciprocate in a few weeks by returning them to you.

That's great that I could give you a shot of confidence. Keep writing and it will happen for you as well.


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Sun Pen 50 6 years ago from Srilanka

I followed you from your comment on my thread in the forum. Thanks for the encouragement and advice. Then this hub is awesome and a great encouragement and I too decided to write something like this sooner. Thanks to you and all "senior" hubbers offering help unselfishly. Though I have published one hub so far the advice from others helped me to raise my score and the rank.... That is the motivational factor I usually expect. Thanks all. And with all the help from fellow hubbers I am determined to write my story too...sooner. Please look forward for it.


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rwelton 6 years ago from Sacramento CA

Good hub that inspires the rest of us...I started strong then let circumstances bump me out of a regular posting schedule. Back on it. Thanks for all the links to follow.


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ForrestDrake 6 years ago from Canada&USA

Patience patience patience. That's the motto of freelancing. Most freelance writers start earning serious money after 2-3 years...


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Sun Pen: I remember the comment; it's good to hear that my hub is of some value to you. I don't consider myself a "senior" at HP yet, but am at a point where I feel I have something to offer other newbies and am always willing to help. I will be looking for your own story in a few weeks!

rwelton: It has been a little hard for me to keep to a schedule as well, but I think I've found one I can live with. I don't get as many hubs published as I would like, but the schedule keeps me doing something, and that will pay off down the road.

ForrestDrake: Indeed, patience is a very big key here. Making money online isn't a quick fix - it takes time. I have several years to retirement and expect to have a very good side income by that time; for me that's what it's all about.


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toknowinfo 6 years ago

Thanks for the invaluable info. Could you teach me what you learned about the rss feeds, how to use them and what they exactly do? You are a great inspiration and I am glad I found your hub. All the best to you and keep writing. Rated up and awesome.


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kashmir56 6 years ago from Massachusetts

Congrats to you on your first $100.00 with Adsense, amd thanks for all the good information and encouraging words!

Great hub!!!


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

toknowinfo: You are more than welcome. It's good to hear that the hub has been an inspiration to you. Yes, of course I will help you out with what I know about RSS feeds, although with the holidays coming up it may take a few days. I will either write a hub on it or email you directly.

Kashmir: Thanks for the congrats. Although I had already received a payout of about $10 from Amazon the big one is from Adsense, of course, and that first $100 payout is quite a milestone in the project to make money online.

You are quite welcome to the information and encouragement. It has really pleased me to see from the comments that many newbies have found encouragement and support in this hub; that's why I wrote it after all.


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cookibuq 6 years ago from Ireland / Hong Kong

Voted up and useful ! I'm still fairly new and inexperienced on this field, and with college work and other things going, I found it hard to keep up with the writing, but this is very good encouragement. if I could come to the phase you outlined here in June I would be pretty happy :) Thanks for sharing this.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Cookibuq, just keep writing when you can. Not everyone can devote 40 or 50 hours a week to it. I was fortunate enough to discover HubPages while unemployed (though unemployment isn't normally fortunate!) and it gave me a boost for the first 6 weeks or so. Just do what you can comfortably do - if you spend too much time on it you can get burned out real easy and quit. Set yourself a goal of one or two hubs a week and try to stick with it. Don't forget to spend some time studying, either! It may take a little longer, but it will still happen with time and effort.


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jokeapptv 6 years ago

great article at least you never gave up. Thats very important. Creativity and hard work usually pay off eventually.


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You are absolutely correct. I think most of the people that fail at something like HubPages do so because it just doesn't happen fast enough for them. A little more time and effort and they can turn that around.


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Rismayanti 6 years ago from Tropical Island

Amazing.. you got it, thanks for share


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You are certainly welcome, and I hope it gave you some encouragement to continue writing on HubPages. It is so easy to get discouraged, but will pay off in the long run.


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Ladybird33 6 years ago from Georgia USA

Wildnerness, I love learning something new and I did with this hub. thank you for sharing!


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wilderness 6 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You are more than welcome. It's always good to hear that someone found the hub of value; thanks for the comment.


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ThoughtfulSpot 5 years ago from PA

Wilderness - Just came across this hub in the forums. Haven't read all the way through, but I am bookmarking and will come back. What I have seen - FABULOUS! Thank you! I have recently gone back to school, and have gotten away from hp for awhile. All that stuff I was learning about seo and keywords has gotten a bit foggy with lack of practice and this will be a fantastic refresher for me as I try to get back to it all. Thanks again!


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

I appreciate that you are finding it valuable. As a relative "newbie" to HubPages, I am far from knowing as much as I should, but felt that perhaps I can contribute something back to the community in return for all it has done for me. This hub was the result.

Thanks for the comment, and hope you quickly get back to writing.


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andyoz 5 years ago from UK

I've been here about a week and am still finding it all a little confusing. This has been the most helpful thing I have read so far, especially some of the tools you have mentioned. Thankyou so much for the help, hopefully I will be able to achieve something similar over the next 6 months.


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Good to hear my ramblings are useful to you. You are more than welcome to any help I can give.

With a little work, there is little doubt that you can do the same; just keep learning and writing!


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visionandfocus 5 years ago from North York, Canada

What a useful and inspiring hub! My first month has been very intensive so far, and I'm kinda feeling the burn, but you've got me all wired up to keep going. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experience!


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You are certainly welcome. If I've inspired you even a little bit I've accomplished my goal.


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Melovy 5 years ago from UK

This is really useful hub, and encouraging for a beginner to read. I didn’t know placing photos in the first capsule was not a good idea, and just about all my hubs start with that! Might have to do a re-think.


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Photos in the first capsule can look good, but if you are trying to earn money by writing they also take up the prime real estate for ads.

Glad you found it useful, and thanks for letting me know that.


Giselle Maine 5 years ago

A very helpful personal perspective on Hubpages. Wilderness, how do you get your links to open in a new window? I'm trying to do that in one of my hubs and it doesn't seem to let me. Any ideas?


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

I'm glad you found it useful; it is my effort to pass on some of the help I've received from other hubbers.

The box used to fill in information for an in-text link used to contain a button to check to open the link in a new window. It no longer does, and I miss that option. As far as I've heard there is no way to automatically open the link in a new window any more.


Giselle Maine 5 years ago

Thanks so much for the prompt feedback about the new window option not being there anymore. I'm puzzled that HP stopped doing that, as I would have thought it would benefit everyone to open in a new window.

But, I'm glad it's not just me & my IE7 - I've had some problems with HP on IE7 in the past. Glad to hear that's not the issue. Thanks again!


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wilderness 5 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

You're more than welcome - I wish they had not changed either as I prefer to leave the window with the hub up and running. If nothing else it should give google a longer "time on page" to look at.

If you are using IE7, why don't you take a look at FireFox? It's a free download and works much better on HP without using near the overhead that IE does. In the one year plus that I've been on HP FF has always been preferred over IE - HP just doesn't run well with that one.


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JimmieWriter 4 years ago from Memphis, TN USA

Reading your journey is very helpful. Thank you for documenting it. I've been at HP for about a year and have not made payout. Expecting one January 28, though! I don't have a lot of hubs, but I know that having more will increase earnings. Thanks again.


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wilderness 4 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Good to hear that you're making payout - it was a tough summer with Panda to try and make your first one.

It's good to hear that the hub was useful; I wrote it to give beginners some kind of idea that they could expect to see. Although, as I say, the Panda update interfered with many this year.

Thanks for the comment - it's always fun to hear that I've helped someone out.


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Williamkosko 3 years ago from Baltimore, Maryland

Great hub! I had started writing in a similar way. It is nice to see someone else who values quality of writing, and does not do it for the sole purpose of making money. You see far too many writers preaching to others to write quantity, or write hubs that do not even answer questions so they will be forced to follow your links, etc. It almost makes you think the people who weren't always so strong in writing become the better writers because they know the value of hard work, and are forced to have patience through their efforts. Kind of like how a little guy knows the value of strength.


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wilderness 3 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Thank you for your comment.

I have, from the first, tried to provide the most information I could, while coaching it a manner that easily readable and digestible. There are other things necessary to get traffic, such as keyword research and on page SEO, but if the reader does not come first the author will, IMHO, pay for it in the long run.


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robhampton 2 years ago from Tampa Bay, Florida

I have just published an article, awaiting moderation, about making upwards of $300.00/month with only 20 hubs. Look for it in a day or 2


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Cruncher 2 years ago from UK

Good stuff. Always interesting to hear others experience of writing on Hubpages. I'd agree it takes time to get traffic numbers up, but my experience is that it does get there eventually.


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wilderness 2 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Absolutely right, Cruncher - HP is not a get-rich-quick scheme, but a steady income IS possible. Time, perseverance and effort will pay off.


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Blackspaniel1 2 years ago

I now have some hope of getting to a payout Thanks.


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Teeuwynn Woodruff 2 years ago from Washington State

It's interesting to hear you were able to start making a little money early on. I still have to get Adsense to accept me, but hope to do so next month.


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wilderness 2 years ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Adsense has changed since this was written, and it does take more time. It will happen, though, and your earnings can begin; hopefully faster than mine did as the HP earnings program is superior to adsense alone.


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peachpurple 17 months ago from Home Sweet Home

i doubt i could write 3 hubs in a week, let alone 1 hub per month, my adsense earning had been $30 for 5 years and amazon 0.80 cents, I depend on HP, every 4 months I could reach the payout


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mythbuster 11 months ago from Utopia, Oz, You Decide

I've enjoyed reading on your experiences with writing and earning (and often not earning very much) at HP. I spotted a few tips that might help me, so thanks for sharing what you have learned. I've been away for a little while, so I think I can incorporate a few details from your hub to get me "kick-started" at HP again!


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Matt Christensen 2 months ago from Ephraim, UT

This is a veeerrrry long list of comments, so I'd be surprised if you still even check these.

Great article! I have no formal training, but I love to write. Also, times are tough, so I was hoping for a chance to earn some money, and you've given me some great guidance.

If I correctly followed some of your keys to success, they were 1) Using good key words to increase traffic flow, 2) Writing on a broad variety of topics to catch every type of audience possible, and 3) Writing a LOT. Would you say those were your top three contributors? What did I miss? Any extra advice?

Thanks a lot!


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wilderness 2 months ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Matt, I don't really know that writing on a wide variety topics is all that necessary, as long as you can find a general topic that is successful for you. More important is writing on something you understand and are an expert at.

Understanding current conditions (mostly from Google) is very important, and HP has done a great job of helping us all do that.

Writing a lot is necessary for any kind of income at all: a dozen hubs isn't going to produce much of anything.


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Matt Christensen 2 months ago from Ephraim, UT

Got it, thanks!

I don't understand what you mean by "understanding current conditions." Could you clarify?


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wilderness 2 months ago from Boise, Idaho Author

Things (primarily Google) have changed since I wrote this. Google has become MUCH better at picking out keywords, for instance, and become much harder to please in other areas. The number of ads used to not matter, nor did it matter if they, or links, were particularly relevant to the hub. Neither is true today.

Study the learning center carefully, for it is a very good resource on what is needed and expected by HubPages.


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Gina Welds-Hulse 2 months ago from Rockledge, Florida

Thank you! A very inspirational piece. I will be sharing this, and visiting this hub a couple more times.

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