A University to AVOID

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University of Phoenix is what some might call the 'Walmart' of education. They offer lots of courses, advertise their products, and collect millions of dollars for the services they provide. What they don't and/or won't tell you is that their degrees are nearly worthless. The credits you earn at University of Phoenix/University of Phoenix online/Axia College equate to almost nothing in the University of California and California State University education systems. How do I know? Because I've tried it. There is no guarantee that any course you take at UOP will transfer to a school in either UC or CSU systems (which run on a lot of the same guidelines as other University of State or State Universities). The only way to find out if the classes will be accepted into a degree program of your choosing at those institutions is to apply to Department Chairs of the educational subject to have them evaluate the classes and see if they meet the course criteria. As an example, California State University of Sacramento (aka Sac State) will accept certain english and math courses from UOP for 'admission' requirements, but make no guarantee as to whether or not the UOP courses will be accepted towards degree completion or graduation. Sound like a good thing?

If you google University of Phoenix, or even go to Wikipedia and read what they've got on University of Phoenix, the first thing you read is that they are a 'for-profit' organization. Their budget is not provided by the state, local, or federal governments, but rather on the amount of income they make on their students. Why is this important to you? Because this means they have money-hungry business clauses in their student contracts that could end up costing you hundreds if not THOUSANDS of dollars if you make a mistake with the classes you take there. Say you sign up for 3 online classes, each of which cost $750 to attend, plus an additional $85-95 rEsrouce fee to use their online book materials. Now say you participate or post ANY type of comments during the first two days of each of the three 5 week courses you enrolled in. You are automatically obligated to pay UOP $150 for those two days of participation PER course if you decide to drop all three courses after those first two days of participation. In a normal community college you can attend the first 3-4 classes of an 8 or 9-week course, and not have to worry about it. You drop before a certain day, and your academic record doesn't even show you enrolled in the course or withdrew from it. Not only that, but you have an average 2-4 weeks to return your books to the bookstore for a full refund, and if you do drop a course at the community college before the deadline day, then you get your money back as well.

University of Phoenix, however, is coldly unforgiving, and leaps at every chance they can to keep your money. Not only that, but the degrees you earn at University of Phoenix equate to almost nothing on the outside. Yes, UOP is regionally accredited, but the quality of their products are just as good as they treat their students pocketbooks. UOP does NOT offer the same learning opportunities as state universities, and the degrees you get from UOP are a far-cry from the standards of state learning institutions. Do not expect a degree from UOP to be competitive with a degree from a State University, because the State degree will almost, if not 100% of the time, win out over a UOP degree. My personal reccomendations are to A. Don't take classes with UOP, B. Tell your friends to save their time and their money for a college that actually transfers to a State university and C. Boycott UOP for being an utter disgrace to the true purpose of a learning institution, and robbing it's students of their hard earned money.

Written by the husband of pageantgirl31413

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keithlipke 4 years ago from Fort Wayne, Indiana

I agree...everyone should be on the lookout for these proprietary schools and ensure they can get good employment after graduation.

Keith


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phdast7 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Dear pageantgirl31413 and Husband of-

You have just done everyone on HubPages a great service. Thank you for speaking out. Some online degrees and colleges offer a reasonable alternative to a traditional on-campus degree, but many of the "proprietary, for-profit" institutions are just like UOP and have many problems.

These for-profit institutions are beginning to be investigated and written about - do a google search and see what turns up. Everything you mentioned is true and their policies abuse and mislead students. Credits won't transfer, the cost per credit hour is extremely high, they have a very "low" completion or graduation rate.

Many students who attend for-profits end up with enormous debt loads, completely out of proportion to any salary they are likely to make. Please don't forget, in a bankruptcy, the only debt which cannot be forgiven, and follows you forever are student loans. Be careful.

An Accurate, Informative, and Excellent Hub. Thank you.


SmarttChick 4 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me how there are great articles and posts like yours out there - in many places - and yet people still flock to these institutions like they are the next greatest thing! When will people finally "get it" that these institutions are not looking out for anyone's best interest but their stockholders!!?!?

The Education Trust published a report in November 2010 about the way that for profit educational institutions target low income, and minority students who are very vulnerable to the slick sales pitch the "admissions" staff pushes on them. This is a must-read for anyone who is contemplating going back to school and can be found here: http://www.edtrust.org/sites/edtrust.org/files/pub...

You can also search for comments on variuos schools at sites like RipoffReport.com and PissedConsumer.com where many students report being duped by fast-talking admissions offices. In one report about UoP a student talks about her experience spending (borrowing, actually) more than $60,000 for her degree and being told by recruiters at job fairs that her degree was basically useless.

Don't get caught up in this! Do your research BEFORE you sign any student loan promissary notes. Ask questions! Call the Human Resources department in a company where you might want to work after graduation and ASK about the school you are attending. Too many "education" institutions are very happy to take your money but provide very little in return for that investment.

Be Smartt!


yu 4 years ago

okay, so is this working


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DIYmommy 3 years ago

Wow. With both our 4 year degrees in Nursing, my husband looked into attending several predominately online schools after he came home from a year with the U.S. Army in Kuwait. Like your article, he didn't read many good things about UOP, however, one place that I WOULD recommend is AMU (American Military University). My husband just finished up his first two courses towards his Masters there, and he found it to be fairly rigorous and challenging. Not to mention it is accredited on both the national and state levels. Thank you for giving everyone here on HubPages a heads up regarding UOP!. Thanks for the great hub!

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