Debating points of view. Nothing is simply Black or White especially political promises.

Opposites can attract or repel

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Basic rules of debate

Should these be necessary components for basic debating:

courtesy, unbiased views, truth, and the use of a little common sense.

They all seem to be lacking in debates these days.

Is the concept: "Either my way or the highway" - the new social perspective?

Debates are a good and wholesome way to stimulate the intellect. ? N'est-ce pas?

Well they should be.

These are, or should be, 'specific' basic rules to debates, either stated or implied.

The unanswerable question still is: Do opposites really attract?

Choosing a topic

Controversial topics are always the most interesting, but not the most productive in reaching a congenial conclusion.

The parties having the debate must be open minded and not afraid to explore different possibilities.

They must possess the ability to respect the opinions of others.

They also need to show some willingness to concede to the fact that their opponent may have a more valid point of view: instead of simply going on the defensive and attack mode.

Example:

Let's debate the words: Black and White.

Which color do you prefer? Why? (Please keep in mind this is just rhetorical).

This debate is very subjective, in that, the opinions of both views come from the reality of their individual experiences. And these views are conditioned by the personal connotation of each color in the minds of the debaters.

More simply put, the conclusions are based solely on each particular and peculiar view of what each color represents (the suggesting of a meaning of a word apart from the thing it explicitly names or describes) and which definitive thought is most important to either side.

These definitive thoughts are based on perceptions learned in early childhood and influenced by other people's reactions to these two colors.

Some examples of different points of view regarding "black" and "white":

1. Aesthetic view: ugly or beautiful (pleasing to the eye)

2. Puritanical view: evil versus good

3. Oppositional view: direct opposites of each other

4. Unadulterated view: contamination versus cleanliness

5. Societal view: skin color

As you can see, debates take on a mind of their own without really trying.

Topics to avoid

If you start a debate with any of the above examples (and there are many more that relate to motivation) as the sole basis for your arguments, then the debate is predestined to failure.

Open mindedness and the willingness to listen to another point of view is the only way any debate can end amicably.

If you start a debate with the sole intention of 'selling' your ideas to another person, then it is not a debate at all. It is an attempt to control another person's point of view.

Twisting words and meanings to prove a point is less than utile, or desirable, in a debate

Calling names, making innuendos, insinuations, derogatory or insulting remarks are counter productive in any civil "debate".

If you are just 'in it to win it" the contiguity of the sensibility is lost and the debate can only lead to argument.. As Kenny Rodgers sang in his song: "know when to fold up".

If one becomes frustrated from realizing that they are not being heard appropriately it is time to bring this 'debate' to a halt.

We can then simply agree to disagree and exit the debate.

Concession is not defeat

We could, in all accuracy and reality, compare this to both political and religious "debates; but there is no such thing as rationally, or logically, 'debating' either of those volatile, and emotionally disturbing topics when the entrants into the debate are totally narrow minded and without logic.

When we are brought up (indoctrinated) into any {situation} one tends to 'defend' their point of view in lieu of 'debating' it.

Somehow, to concede to another way of thinking is viewed as defeat, or traitorous, instead of progressive personal intellectual growth.

Perhaps this concept in itself is why the word "progressive" has such a negative connotation attached to it today in politics. Especially when it often times means becoming aware of a broader and more logical point of view, than those long held old conservative and stagnant beliefs.

Either way, rigid, unyielding concepts, and beliefs, are self-defeating in themselves, especially here in the real world.

by: d.william 1/22/11

The same advice goes for debating - know when to guit

© 2011 d.william

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Wintermyst 5 years ago

Well said. I enjoyed reading this very much thank you for writing it.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you so much for stopping by to read and comment. I am not used to anyone actually liking anything i have to say. My articles are mostly controversial, thought provoking and highly inflamatory to many. LOL. Thanks again. dw


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Wintermyst 5 years ago

I am going to check out your other hubs then and see for myself. You are very welcome.


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

d.william, this is an interesting and well stated hub. You mirror my own opinion of what a debate should be. I have at times had to change my own opinions on various issues when presented with new or better facts than I had to form my original opinion. Those who refuse to even listen to the other side of a debate are the ones who lose in the long run. Many great and new ideas are presented in civil type debates that can be both interesting and educational. This was a great hub and I vote it UP and Awesome.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Hey. Thanks for reading and commenting. Hopefully, the person who provoked me into writing it today, will also read it. lol.


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Lots of luck on that one. It seems some just hang around to cause hate and discontent. They will always be here so I just ignore them. This really was a great hub.


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Ashantina 5 years ago

Thanks for sharing. I've always enjoyed a good debate and I think alot of the time, I do it just to win. However, I'm thinking of joining toastmasters and you've just inspired me to go for it. Voted up :)


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks Ashantina for reading and commenting. I do enjoy a good debate, but when it is reduced to (as i stated above); being "in it to win it". It no longer becomes a friendly debate. Proving a point is always acceptable, but being unreasonable about the interpretation of the facts is not. Good luck to you on toastmasters. dw


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always exploring 5 years ago from Southern Illinois

I love a good debate. I think we all have preconceived ideas, has to do with our upbringing,i've discovered that which was taught, is not necessarily etched in stone. Thank you for the interesting article.

Cheers


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you for taking time to read and comment. Always happy to have comments both pro and con.

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