Do people in jail get treated fairly ?

First time in jail and I say no!

My story can happen to anyone. I have been going through a divorce for over 2 years, almost lost everything I had, and was still trying to get at least 50% custody of our daughter-our last child at home. I started with a bad lawyer, hired an expensive lawyer, soon couldn't afford her anymore and had no choice but to represent myself.---Big mistake.-- The biased judge "rubberstamped " everything his good-ole boy attorney drew up without even letting me see it or respond. Dumb me thinking at least I could talk twice the time representing myself and being me!--WRONG-- I didn't get to rebuke the lies and when I tried..... I got contempt of court. (10 days to be exact-good thing they handcuffed me when they did or I might not get a chance to be on the outside and tell my story!) I did not be disrespectful, I just was railroaded and felt like it was me against the world to see my daughter again after the possible drug lie.....Hair sample proved that wrong, daughter "afraid of boyfriend"......my kids used to love him 10 years prior and he since moved out, and lastly until they come up with who knows what........believed mental problems......I think I am normal I haven't done anything crazy and am upstanding in the community. Why is it you are guilty until proven innocent? Why does one have to wait for months for the next court date to prove wrong while relationship with child goes downhill? Meanwhile spouse also sells joint assets and there is no way to enjoy that money to represent yourself? I always try to look on the bright side, after being wrongly in jail and hearing other jail/court/police brutality/$ and prescription drugs missing in personal possession horror stories, I thank that dishonest judge,my lack of representation, and the many egotistically rough police for my new perspective. My new mission in life is to

"TALK ON THE OUTSIDE TO HELP THOSE ON THE INSIDE". I would love to hear your comments or stories and you are welcome to contact me if you would like to join my new forum. I am ready to be proactive with mistreatment, changing laws for visitations, custody, bankruptcy, anything that is logical but our justice system lost their logic when they decide our justice.

My daughter and me.
My daughter and me.

JUSTICE IN JAIL OR COURT POLL

Do people in jail get treated fairly?

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Lady_E profile image

Lady_E 5 years ago from London, UK

Sorry to read about what you went through but I am glad you are doing something positive about it.

You could even set up a group on Facebook too.

Take Care.


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Ingenira 5 years ago

That was a really traumatic experience you went through, and I am glad you try to help other people with your experience. Way to go ! Stay strong and don't give up !


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epigramman 5 years ago

...well that is quite a beautiful and life affirming photograph of you and your daughter - you are a person to be admired and respected because you are brave and courageous and proud - and a survivor - and you seem to have a resilient attitude towards life and living - unfortunately some times it's the people who get in the way - of that life and living!!!!


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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

Wow, what meaningful and beautiful things to say. These comments brought tears to my eyes. I try really hard to stay positive, but thanks to wonderful caring people like all of you,remaining positive is so much easier. Thanks for the comments.


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thebluestar 5 years ago from Northern Ireland

Way to go girl, I like someone who has the power of their convictions. Life is no easy challenge and the ride can and does get rough at times, believe me I have been there too. You are strong on the outside no matter how week you feel inside. Be brave and stand up for you and ur daughter, because your daughter will one day know that there is nothing greater than a mother's love. Sending big hugs x


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Terry.Hirneisen 5 years ago from Shenandoah Valley

You seem to be taking a positive approach to resolving inequities and unfairness in the judicial system. Writing should be good for you as well as the readers. I am sure you will find much support and a few not so supportive. Keep up your positive work. I could not tell if you ever got part custody?

Voted UP and Sad if they had such a category!


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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

Still fighting.... yes I have the right to see her and have her once in awhile, but going to get another attorney to have it more balanced. I just had this happen in late March. Thanks for your comment


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

Kudos to you. I admit to having a real problem with the judicial system. I also think we are too willing to jail people for too many unimportant things. As you probably know the United States has more people imprisoned than any country in the world. Hang in there!

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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

I took Lady_E's advice and I am JAILTALK on facebook now too. If you would like to be a "friend" you probabally know what to do more than I do!! I am just getting in to all this virtual social business, but realize it is important to promote our new website www.jailtalk.info


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katiem2 5 years ago from I'm outta here

WOW this is one raw deal and yet it's great that you've shared your story so we can realize we women have yet to break a lot of barriers. I'm imagining the most positive things for your future. Great pic of you and your daughter. :) Katie


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Chatkath 5 years ago from California

Very cool that you are talking about this Jail Talk because it could indeed happen to anyone and the system is set up that way unfortunately! Your daughter knows the truth and that is really all that matters. Writing is helpful, for you to tell your story and also because hubbers can be quite supportive;-) and because there are probably many women out there who know just how you feel! Keep writing and doing what you are doing. Brava!


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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

Thank-you Katiem and Chatkath, your support means alot. Whenever someone thinks they have it bad, there is always someone out there who has it much worse. Thank goodness the police didn't kill me, taze me, etc.. My heart goes out several times per day to those who are innocent and beat up or even a little upset and mistreated to escalate a "nothing" situation to being shot or beat up by the police. I feel so strongly about this, that I remind myself how lucky I was to see that there truly are 2 sides to every story.

If dealing with the court system hasn't happened to you yet, I cringe to think of your judgments towards those that have. Unfortunately probably thinking he/she must have done something wrong when you see someone in orange and chains walk by you in a courthouse. Never judge anyone til you hear the whole story.


Ghost32 5 years ago

The only time I was in jail--just overnight--I actually got preferential treatment. My wife, before we met...not so much (she's seen the inside more than once).

And as for crooked divorce courts, tell me about it. I never got stung personally, but only because during all six of MY divorces, I knew the dangers and managed to avoid EVER going into court on an adversarial basis.

But prior to hooking up with me, three of my seven ladies had "crooked divorce court, crooked attorney, horrible outcome" situations. In one case, the soon-to-be ex stole literally everything, leaving her homeless. In another, the woman's attorney was actually sleeping with the husband and turning over documents to his attorney that had been ENTRUSTED TO HER FOR SAFEKEEPING.

Oh. Yeah. About people in jail.

Or at least in prison. Pam and I have been writing prison pen pals for nearly 15 years now. One gal whose term is up next year is planning to come live with us when she gets out--and we can't wait. Her lover gets out of the same facility about six months later and will join our household as well.

How's THAT for acting on the outside to help somebody on the inside?

I've written a few Hubs on writing prison pen pals, too.


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KoffeeKlatch Gals 5 years ago from Sunny Florida

JAILTALK, I am so sorry you have had to go through all of this mess. I do not believe that those in jail are always treated fairly. Unfortunately many peope seem to end up there who do not have good legal representation.


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aslanlight 5 years ago from England

I'm in the UK. I know someone who was very mentally ill. He physically assulted someone while suffering from his mental health condition and they put him in prison for it instead of offering him psychiatric help.

He;d been in a psychiatric ward before the attack and I believe he should have been sectioned back there (forced to stay there for more treatment) after his crime.

He committed suicide in his cell.


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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

I am very sorry to hear that. It is a shame we don't do a better job treating the core problems. Anger and Violence breeds Anger and Violence in my opinion.

In America I have heard the local jails get a Federal kickback for every person that is in jail. There are more good people on the inside than the ones putting them in!

In our area, the police are shooting innocent people daily claiming some of the people are making aggressive moves towards them. Oddly enough, they have a knife,no weapons, or even naked and still get shot!

For our 911 we should have Fire, Emergency, Medical, and PSYCHIATRIC help. Not officers with tazers and guns that enjoy provoking people

I might sound biased, but do you know how to tell if the police are lying? ........If their lips are moving..!

(Sorry to the good officers there must be out there, just haven't had the pleasure to meet one yet.)Maybe some $ should be spent on Public Relations and Psychology to help these folks get along with everyone and realize they are OUR Public Servants.


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JAILTALK 5 years ago from Oregon Author

Ghost, you are awesome!!! Would love to meet you sometime! I tend to have people live and stay with us that needed help ever since I could remember. Though I sometimes got stung, there is no substitution for feeling like you have made a difference in someone's life.

Don't remember who quoted this, but I like it. When I do good, I feel good, when I do bad, I feel bad.---That is my religion.


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aslanlight 5 years ago from England

My adoptive dad was a lovely man before he joined the police force, but it corrupted him and he became nasty and judgemental.

Mum left him, then I did shortly afterwards. He won't even speak to my sister, his real daughter, because he didn't like the man she had a child with. He smoked a bit of pot!

Mind you his best friend was a policeman and he was one of the nicest people you could meet!


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ripplemaker 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

I've never been inside a jail so this opens my eyes. Blessings...


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida

Hi Jailtalk, good article.

The conservative politics of this country has led us to incarcerate more of our population than any other country on earth. We are "Exceptional" As with everything else in this society, if you have money you can get a "fair" trial, if you are poor, you are guilty and we won't spend money defending you. Does anyone know how many innocent people have been executed in America? Does anyone care?

The people that caused the financial meltdown got bonuses but we put kids in jail for smoking pot.

I think the issue is the people in jail because they couldn't afford a good lawyer.

I mentioned some of this in this hub http://hubpages.com/politics/American-Exceptionali...

Voted up and a new follower


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

I hope your circumstances have improved since this was written. Family Court is a bad joke. I was prevented from seeing one of my daughters for eight years because of deliberate lies told by my ex. Now I see my girl but our relationship is nowhere near as close to that I enjoy with my other children. Thank you for sharing your story.


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one2recognize2 4 years ago from New York

Hello JailTalk, sorry its taken me months to read your hub and hope you are still staying proactive. It was truly nice of you to share your ordeal with us. Good topic... Voted up and useful. Please stay in touch.


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JAILTALK 4 months ago from Oregon Author

Hello all, just logged in and see this HUB was taken down for not being recent. Does anyone know how it works?..........Thanks for all of the nice and informative comments.

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