Evolution theory doesn't make sense.

Of the many fields of science which I am in agreement with there are a few questionable things which always seem to take the forefront of the political and social infrastructure. Such controversies have arisen throughout the pages of history which some modern thinkers feel tend to stifle the progress of human development in this most important arena of education. But I see an ulterior motive attached to the gallant assertions of our atheist cousins in the homosapien genus.

The progression of thought

The theory of evolution leads the average person to believe that a species evolves slowly over millions of years, yet there is a fatal flaw in this design. We have this unreliable method of figuring out just how old something or someone is through the use of carbon dating technology. So when archaeologists dig up something that has no possible way of figuring out an estimated date of origin they use carbon dating as a means of backup in order to create the illusion of the modern day all knowing answers for everything science. This is a clever example of scientists using their assumptions to dictate their conclusions. (which is ironic because atheist scientists accuse religious people of doing the same thing.)

It does seem better, for some reason, for them to declare that this object in our possession is twenty five million years old! when in reality they don't have a clue. So when they find an unidentified body they naturally assume, based on the unrecognizable style of clothing, and primitive hand tools, it correlates with their carbonated shot in the dark.

Now we have writings which date back to 3000 BC. The first written language known as Cuneiform, invented in Sumer.

So we have the slow and methodical development of the human mind getting smarter and smarter over millions of years with no real proof of written language. Then all of a sudden people learn to write, and then over a period of a mere seven thousand years people begin to build large societies, and work together in agriculture. Then cities are built, large complex buildings, and advancements in knowledge of metals and alloys explode everywhere, weapons get more and more complex, we go from throwing spears to building nuclear warheads.

Transportation advances carry mankind across continents in years, months, weeks, and down to hours, even to the point where people have journeyed on space missions. Communication goes from primitive Epistles, to letters, books, E-mail, and twitter to anyone everywhere.

The exponential growth of the human mind over the last seven thousand years blows the notion of slow multi million year development of human thought out of the water, unless by some unexplainable theory, a tiny piece of their minds suddenly spurted out an extra five inches of nerve endings that magically turned on the lights for everyone, everywhere, and for no reason at all, they were all able to sit down with a chisel and stone and start writing poetry in the form of religious assertions.

Survival of the fittest?

This is an expression which was originally made by Herbert Spencer, But the entire concept poses a large contradiction. My question is, why does natural selection work in favor of the human species despite it's overwhelming frailties?

In nature we can see several examples of the strong surviving. The weak members of the herd are left behind to be devoured by predators. In most of the animal kingdom a baby is born, and within moments it is up and running, and ready to fend for its self on a level that a human baby could never hope to accomplish.

In contrast the average homosapien infant doesn't learn how to walk for an entire year. And during that period, and for many more years they are at the complete mercy of the parents. If they are left alone for any small period of time there is no possibility of them being able to do a single thing to maintain their own life, none whatsoever.

Given the fact that humans are born without speed, agility, or natural predatory or defensive abilities, it is quite the phenomena that out of shear coincidence, or divine providence, the human race ever had a chance at being among the elite of the "natural selection" process.

so how is it that humans who supposedly evolved from Apes, during infancy, have such a big contrast in their abilities? A baby human could never do this.


 

Primordial ooze

How is it possible that the Earth slowly comes into existence, and all life comes from some puddle of goo that was struck by lightning, and somehow all the cells in all the ponds of goo in the world grew into a bunch of diverse creatures, and yet nothing comes close to possessing the kind of brain activity that humans do?

Are we to believe that humans are so randomly fortunate to have been struck by lightning at the right angle with the exact amount of force it takes in order for us to have come out with advanced bodies and minds, with the capability to think, build, hunt, communicate, and so forth, while other species on the Earth advance no further than that of a dung beetle. In my opinion, it seems only logical in order for us to maintain an evolutionary standard of thinking, everything should have a frontal lobe, and all manner of different species should have been competing with us in the space race.

The religion of Evolution

The more people I encounter who subscribe to evolution as a plausible explanation for the beginning of the human species, the more I see common ground between atheists and the religious. The underlying aspect is the vehement defense of their beliefs, and the need to debunk outside ideologies in order to prove that they are right. There are those who go to great lengths acting as apologists in defense of their faith, all the while mocking, and ridiculing any naysayers.

Lastly the most perplexing of all is the assertion of moral superiority. For some reason this matters a great deal to the Atheist who is trying to convert the believer. Why should morality mean anything to us if we just came from a pile of goo, and are destined to become nothing more than food for worms?

In my mind Evolution theory is nothing more than militant atheism in disguise. It is being pushed into the schools by atheists because they know, despite the fact that there is no plausible application for this theory, it is a damaging antithesis to the foundations of religion.

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Comments 126 comments

Jeff 5 years ago

I believe in evolution, though I do not believe that we came from apes. There is indisputable scientific evidence that supports evolution. I think that what you are saying is that evolution = believing we came from monkeys. That is not the definition of evolution. I believe that we came from Adam and Eve, just like we read in the Bible. We know that man is the last thing that God created before He rested. The Earth is very old, and has probably been around for a lot longer than most people think. The Bible says the Earth was created in 7 days. However, the correct translation was that it was created in 7 periods. We have no idea how long it took to create the Earth, only that it was not all done at once. God has many interesting creations on the planet at this time, even ones that we have not discovered yet. There surely were other creations on the Earth before Adam and Eve, as we can see from the fossil evidence of dinosaurs and "cave men". What I am saying is that you can still believe in science and not give up your religious beliefs. Correctly understood, science and religion support each other, not contradict each other. God is the master scientist, the creator of heaven and earth. It has not been revealed to us exactly how he did it, but I believe we will find out one day. The scriptures tell us that there are many "mysteries" that God will one day reveal to us. Details about the creation of the Earth and the origin of man are definitely a mystery.


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Onusonus 5 years ago from washington Author

Jeff it's impossible to believe in the theory of evolution and God at the same time. We know that the bible is true because the bible says it's true, and as I said previously in this sentence, the bible is true. Don't you see your logic eats its self?

Now on a serious note I can definitely agree with the fact that science agrees with religion on most sapects, however it is clear that the standard school fed concept of moral relativism ie.(there's no such thing as truth) is quite contrary to the ongoing quest for truth that every God fearing citizen is admonished to seek after. hence the theory its self can be altered and expanded upon while at the same time leaving a path of spiritual destruction, and religious oppression in it's wake.


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John Sarkis 5 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

What I find difficult about evolution is when you ask why is it that some animals (e.g. catfish, lungfish, etc)haven't evolved for millions of years. Of course, the evolutionists tell you that it is because they eat crap - this isn't good enough for me...I'd like a more concise answer and it's hard getting one....


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Onusonus 5 years ago from washington Author

So eating crap is what's held them back all this time. And just think, if humans do it, they die. Weird.


ruffridyer 5 years ago from Dayton, ohio

If evolution was true, then all life originated in the sea. Since the sea had millions more yrs of evolving before life got onto land how come the most intelligent life isn't in the sea,i.e. cities of merfolk should be dominating this planet. Not ground dwellers.


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Onusonus 5 years ago from washington Author

Interesting point. It just shows how incredulous the theory is.


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Taylee 5 years ago from Chicagoland, Illinois

I have to agree with Jeff on this one. I don't see any reason why believing in God or supporting the Big Bang Theory have to be exclusive. A day to God could be millions of years to us, there is no way to really be sure, so who is to say that God didn't set Natural Selection in motion? The concept of Survival of the Fittest makes logical sense and God is a logical being. We are undergoing that concept right now on a smaller level. We fall victim to disease and ignorance and it affects generation after generation. We're not the same people we were a thousand years ago.

I don't fall privy to believing that a little piece of DNA kept progressing and taking steps to eventually become a human but I do believe that God was initiating the process and I do believe it was indeed a 'Process.'

Science, instead of debunking faith, only adds to it. Each scientific explanation shows that every natural law, every observations, every motion and force, has an extremely sound structure and purpose. There is a rhyme and reason to everything. Everything fits together so perfectly that I find it impossible to believe that that state of perfection could be created by mere coincidence and happenstance. Accidents do happen, but accidents that can create a universe of precise numbers and formulas? All the greatest scientists of the past believed in a higher power and I think it's because they had a true grasp on the perfection that exists.


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Onusonus 5 years ago from washington Author

Very well said Taylee, Perhaps I should change the theme to specify Darwinism, and the evolution of the human species.

I wish to assert the fact that man suddenly sprang out of the dirt as a man and did not evolve from some other type of animal. I am also in agreement with the corelation that science and religion share with one another.


atheist 5 years ago

lol you guys should hear yourselves.

Literally what you are all saying in various different combinations of words is " I don't understand the scientific explanation, therefore God did it."

evolution has as much valid evidence to its name as the fact that we live in a heliocentric solar system does, and that gravity exists.

good luck.


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Onusonus 5 years ago from washington Author

Atheist, Thanks for stopping by. Do you believe in aliens?


peace0on0you 4 years ago

Atheist, please, answer me, what came first DNA or protein? If you know it, explain scientificaly. If you can't, which is very likely to happen, than I'm sorry, but you are the one who don't understand the scientific explanation... :)


Thanks 4 years ago

I love this hub! It makes me feel warm inside knowing that no matter what you say, people will agree with you! Just like nazism... or throwing intellectuals in the gulag. Yep... a warm, fuzzy feeling right in my manipulative core...


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Onusonus 4 years ago from washington Author

Not a problem, I'm glad I can bring you to the light, because it always makes me feel warm and fuzzy to know that I possess an inherent moral superiority over the religiousless. ;)


Jet 4 years ago

When you read about evolution, you hear the words randomly, spontaneously, by chance, etc... get thrown around. That there is a problem itself, but what confuses me, and contradicts the theory of evolution its self, is that they say life is simple. If life is so simple then, why cant we even duplicate the simplest thing of them all, a germ. I'm not asking them to duplicate a human. I'm asking them to duplicate a germ. It's 2012 and we cant even get close to duplicating the simplest of God's work. BTW- these are the words of my good friend Ngoc. I post this because I strongly agree with him.


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Onusonus 4 years ago from washington Author

Jet, excellent question. One to be cast aside by those who dismiss the possibility of both God and science coexisting in the same universe.


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eternals3ptember 3 years ago from Sherman Oaks (Not the Nice Part, Unfortunantly)

A protist was created in a lab, RNA probably came first, life doesn't arise spontaneously outside of books, why write an article on science when you clearly reject it? I'm not trying to connive, but why?


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Eternals3ptember, Saying that a person created something in a lab is advocating intelligent design. That I wholeheartedly agree with.

But simply because I have questions about a few scientific conclusions does not mean that I reject science all together.

I am simply pointing out that it is clearly the desire of some people to lump science in with atheism as though the two are inseparably connected when they are not. This shouldn't be an offensive message to anyone of the scientific community except to those who wish to prove there is no God.

But why accept evolution as it stands without questioning it? Isn't that what science is all about? To be constantly questioning our fallible human conclusions, in order to increase our understanding of the physical world? I would say that if we were not doing this then perhaps there is a degree of fanaticism or blind faith that goes into your rock solid scientific conclusions about the relationship between man and ape.


Question 3 years ago

Humans are a type of great ape. Why are some people acting as though humans aren't apes?


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Because nobody has ever seen a human baby swing from a tree.

So why weren't we competing in the space race with other apes? How come evolution only worked for humans?


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

LAWL! Thanks for the fun - only just found this little scrap of ignorance.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Ignorance is mocking something simply out of spite. Thanks for all the enlightenment on the subject. You really opened my eyes. Very scholarly rebuttal Lol!


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Nothing spiteful at all. I had a genuine laugh. Ignorance is a choice, and for some reason - I find your choice to be ignorant funny. Nothing to rebut. "Evolution doesn't make sense" to you. - Got it. LAWL!

You clearly reject the entire scientific world and millions of pieces of proof - what on earth could I possible offer you as a rebuttal? Stick with what you got - It doesn't make sense to you.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Mark,

I know you've got a lot of emotional attachment to your religion and like some zealots you feel the need to defend your beliefs.

It's a shame that your Pope Dawkins has convinced the evolutionist community (of which you are a blind follower), to proselytize through mockery.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Getting funnier with every nonsensical statement , Onusoneveryoneelse. Posit nonsense - you get mocked. I thought your majik book told you that? Guess you didn't bother reading that one either?

Like I said - stick with what you got. Evolution doesn't make sense to you. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

My majik book? Your zealotry gets bolder by the minute. Relax dude. I know people aren't supposed to question your religion, just blindly follow. No wonder your religion causes so many wars. Lol!


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Isn't you majik book about majik? How odd? People walking on water and coming back from the dead and stuff. Guess you haven't actually read it after all. Can't say I am surprised. No wonder your religion causes so much ill will. Have you read ANY books? Zealotry? LAWL!!!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

I know, it's not your flavor of religion, you prefer fairy tales like "origin of the species". Changing from single cells, to fish, to monkeys, to people. That's way more believable! Lol!


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Like I said - stick to what you got - "It doesn't make sense to you." I take it you haven't actually read any books then? I don't blame you. Learning is HARD! LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Sounds like you are encouraging me not to read. Hitler didn't like people who read either.

Sorry but it's too late. I was just reading about evolution's hall of shame. Tell me, why do so many evolutionists like to lie to prove their point? Is it because they like to come to a conclusion before they find any evidence? Religious people do that too sometimes, but they blame it on faith. I wonder what you guys blame it on. Sounds faith based to me... ;)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

No - I am encouraging you to read, but I understand why you never have. How did I lie exactly? I thought bearing false witness got you burned by your Super Daddy. N'est pas? Evolution's hall of shame? Wouldn't be a religious liar website by any chance? Bet them use itty bitty wurds. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Oh my. Your reading comprehension seems to be taking a nose dive. Onus never say you lie, Onus say mr. atheist scientists lie about stuff. Like fossils n'stuff. Not you silly willie.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Ah - anything that doesn't fit with your irrational beliefs is a lie - gosh, what a lot of liars. No wonder your religion causes so many fights. :(


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

More projecting. I not say dat silly. I think you got cornfused again. Is Engrish your second language?


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

No sweetie pie. All scientists who think evolution happened are liars - that is right? Therefore anyone that disagrees with your irrational beliefs are liars. All scientists. That is a lot of people you are accusing of being liars. No wonder your religion causes so many fights. Do you think the earth is flat as well?


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Hey - found you a book that might help: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470117737/ref=as...

Good luck. :D


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Uh oh, more projecting. I not say dat silly atheist with da Jesus face. Thanks for the book though, does it talk about Orce man, Haekel’s faked embryonic drawings, Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis the dinosaur/bird "missing link", the hoax of Johann Beringer, the Calaveras Skull fraud, the Sicilian Maltese-manufactured fossils of invertebrates and fish, or the still standing Lucy exhibit in St. Louis that scientists conveniently added human hands and feet to?


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Projecting? How so? Are you saying that you have changed your mind now and only some scientists who think evolution happened are liars? How do you determine which are the liars? All biologists, geologists, paleontologists and geographers are liars aren't they? People who use carbon dating are liars. What is left over? Mediums? lol

I see your cut and paste skills are as good as ever, but still too lazy to read anything huh? Oh well - I don't blame you. Learning is HARD!

Missing link? LAWL+1


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Yes Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis the dinosaur/bird "missing link". Fake!

Just like all the other fakes I mentioned. I know that atheism does not teach the difference between a lie and the truth so allow me to clue you in. When scientists fabricate stuff so it agrees with what they want it to be, that's called lying.

I wouldn't call the rest of the Evolutionist sheeple who follow the Dawkins Pope around liars, just severely misguided. ;)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Ah - back to ignorant attacks. Better than learning anything I guess. I don't blame you - learning is HARD!

Missing link? LAWL! +2


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Hmm, lets see, mocking, projecting, lying, Yup. I'm pretty sure you are the one on the attack. Kind of like an evolutionist apologist. Defend the faith brother!

It's so enlightening and scientific. What a breath of fresh air! Lol!


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Lying? How so? Projecting? How so - I though your Super Daddy burned you for bearing false witness - n'est pas? Just trying to help. Guess you will not be reading that book I suggested. I don't blame you - learning is HARD!

I told you - posit ignorant garbage and you will be mocked. Even your majik book tells you this.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Uh oh, Mr. Jesus face Atheist apologist doesn't understand da big words. Can't stand other questioning your religion? I understand. You want to believe it so bad but there's just no hard evidence all you got is faith. Keep the faith brother. :)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Odd - you think there is no evidence? How odd - there is loads. The fact that you refuse to look at it will not make it go away. I don't blame you though - learning is HARD!

Faith is bad huh? Gotcha. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Uh oh, more projecting. Please tell me more stuff I didn't say.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Talking about projecting. No wonder your religion is responsible for so much ill will and hatred.

Seriously - try reading that book I suggested. I know - learning is HARD, but - it is worth it in the long run. Better an unpleasant truth than a wonderful fiction. If that one is too difficult - just ask - I will see if I can find some easier reading.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

I hope you can, it doesn't seem as though you've got it packed down yet. Keep trying though, you'll get it eventually. Perhaps if atheists were better readers they wouldn't be so violent and hateful towards things they don't understand.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Violent? Hateful? How odd - I assume you are once again not accusing ME of that - just - them atheists out there? Not aimed at me I guess. I am just mocking your willful ignorance and deliberate lack of education. That is not violent - is it? Maybe that counts as violence and persecution? IDK - seems that is what you want innit? LAWL


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Well you might not know about that kind of stuff seeing as how you have all that trouble reading and all. :(


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

I don't have trouble reading, sorry - now you are projecting again. Would you like me to find something simpler for you? Or are you really too lazy to bother? It is HARD - I know. :(


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

No thanks, I'm not into science fiction. :)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

No - You prefer Fantasy. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

I'm more into history books. ;)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

I think not. :( Bet you have never read a single one.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Sure I have.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Name 10.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Democracy in America

Botchki

Out of this furnace

The Joseph Smith Papers

The Bible

We had everything but money

Discovering America's past

Antiquities of the Jews

Учение и Заветы

Dockerys of Dixie


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

LAWL!

Like I said.

No wonder your religion causes so many conflicts. :(


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

That's it? I wonder how many times a day do you say that, and has it ever converted anybody to Evolutionism? Keep the faith. ;)


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

No - but it has made people realise they are causing conflicts. You will never accept proven scientific facts - I understand that.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Actually I accept all proven scientific facts. Just not the ones that require faith.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Such as?


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Evolution.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

No - I mean which ones do you accept? LOLOL


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Most of the rest of it.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Could you give me ten examples please.


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

No thanks.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Didn't think so. LOL


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

You can't think of ten examples of science (other than evolution) by yourself? Interesting.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Of course I can sweetie. That wasn't the question. Can't think of ten examples of science that you don't outright reject huh? I thought that would be the case somehow. ;)


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Of course I can cupcake, but there's no point to it.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Really? I think you are not truthful sweetie pie. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Like I said cupcake, no point.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

I think you are telling porkies. ;)


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

I didn't say anything about bacon.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Oh - sorry - didn't understand that? Not a surprise. Let me know if you ever get around to thinking of 10 scientific disciplines that you do not reject. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Sorry I am not familiar with idiomatic expressions from England. And feel free to explain why scientists like to tell lies about the fossils they find.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Sorry you don't understand. Oh well - please let me know when you have found 10 scientific disciplines you don't reject. Odd that this was your opening statement and you can't think of them. Must be not telling the truth methinks. LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Oh oh, oversimplifying my assertions. How very unscientific. Not surprising seeing as how evolutionists tend to fib about their finds.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

"Of the many fields of science which I am in agreement with" is pretty simple sweetie pie. Can't think of any huh? LAWL!


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Of course I can cupcake. Can't answer my question? interesting.


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Mark Knowles 3 years ago

Dear me. No wonder you Christians are responsible for so much conflict. Please do let me know if you ever think of any science you don't reject. ciao


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Conflict? Is that good or bad?


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Onusonus 3 years ago from washington Author

Matt, I realize that questioning your religious beliefs feels like an attack, but it is not personal and I do not accept name calling on this thread.


Tim 2 years ago

I'll be the grammar nazi and just say it. Altetior is not a word. It's ulterior.


ward42 2 years ago

pretty heated discussion between the two of you. Life must be easier just thinking that there is no final judgment and that the only thing that matters is the "here and now". "Eat, drink and be marry. For tomorrow we die." We as lds have read this statement over and over again. It portrays the people that dont believe in God. Even incredibly intelligent men who were experts in the realm of science agreed that there must be some sort of supreme being. Examples from Isaac Newton..

“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”

“He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.”

Even a world renowned scientist realized that there is a supreme being, a governor of the laws of the universe. Life has so much more meaning when we realize that there is an eternal consequence and reward awaiting us in the life to come.


Colby Geil 2 years ago

First, evolution isn't something you believe in. It's not a faith that you choose to accept or disprove. It's called a theory because a large amount of evidence supports evolution, and evolution then generates testable hypotheses. All of the species did not suddenly jump up from puddles of goo. From the basic gases and elements present in the earths atmospheres amino acids formed from lightning strikes and over time began to come together into longer and longer chains of amino acids, eventually forming proteins. The proteins slowly came together to form the first and most basic forms of life. Also, humans did not evolve from ages, rather they share a relatively recent common ancestor, meaning that members of a species that existed several million years ago were separated and began to adapt by natural selection to their different environments. Eventually, their descendants become so genetically different from too genetically different from one another to produce viable offspring, and were no longer of the same species.


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

First let me say that A scientist by the name of Miller proved that when he tried to combine amino acids they became oxidized. The only way for him to prevent this from happening was to remove the oxygen from the situation because as he said "Life could not have evolved with oxygen present." One of his guesses in the experiment was to use ammonia, which is destroyed by UV light, which is blocked by Ozone, which is made of oxygen.

And so because of the assumptions of evolutionists, text books to this day assert that the Earth's atmosphere had no oxygen when they don't have an ounce of proof. It's more of a faith based assumption.


Quahog 2 years ago

This is in the "science" section?

Shouldn't HubPages move it to "Religion" where it clearly belongs?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Quahog,

I agree, It seems that Evolution theory has developed into a type of religion for atheists, However there are still many who regard it as a science. So in the spirit of the scientific method I will continue to maintain a questioning attitude as to the validity of their conclusions.


John Nicol 2 years ago

There's a major question that I've never heard an answer to- how does evolution attempt to explain the cambrian explosion? it seems like the sort of thing that evolutionary biologists would trip on all over the place.


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

All it takes is faith John, they don't need hard evidence to prove anything. Take the geologic column for example. There is no real proof that it exists. All the layers in rocks are used to date fossils, yet by the principle of hydrologic sorting one can see that it takes only minutes to create the same kind of layers, not millions of years.


John Nicol 2 years ago

And why don't they look at the facts that are staring them right in the nose? it seems so obvious!


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Because that would not fit the no Creation, no God narrative.


John Nicol 2 years ago

But isn't it the job of scientists to uncover truth? And let's face it. If they wanted to believe something- wouldn't they want to believe the Christian faith? It's a lot more hopeful than "Eat drink, and be merry- Pack all the enjoyment into life that you can, 'cause once you die, that's it."


John Nicol 2 years ago

I am majorly befuddled.


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

It's more self fulfilling to attribute all the knowledge and creativity in the world to man rather than admitting that not all questions can be answered by science.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Self-fulfilling? I suppose so. But why is the government practically outlawing speaking against Evolution? In the first place, it's quite unscientific- refusing to question this hypothesis- and in the second place, wouldn't it be in the interest of law and order to gently nudge people towards christian ideals, rather than to say "okay, we've got these laws in place in the interests of order in the world, but since following these isn't for your personal interests, whatever?" Wouldn't it be more in the interests of Law and Order to rather say, "We've got these laws in place to help you be closer to God?" and another question (methinks you are being bombarded with them today) is why is the theory of Evolution a theory? if they really believed it, wouldn't it be a law? and if they didn't believe it, with the good evidence that we have, why hasn't it been discarded?


John Nicol 2 years ago

Self-fulfilling? I suppose so.

Why does the Government practically outlaw questioning Evolution? it would be more in the Interests of Law and Order not to say "once you die, that's it. have as much fun as you can," but instead, say "these are some laws. following them brings you closer to God."


John Nicol 2 years ago

Whoops. I thought that somehow that the first comment didn't get posted. sorry. :(


John Nicol 2 years ago

so- what do you think?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

I've never seen a law that prevents people from questioning evolution. We still have free speech in America for the time being. The universities have their own speech codes not unlike the political correctness of Nazi Germany.


John Nicol 2 years ago

I didn't say that they DO outlaw questioning evolution- I said that the practically outlaw it. and the same thing applies with universities- it seems that they are almost opposing law and order. and these are universities! bastions of truth! why in the name of nothing are they so unscientific as to not see the facts that are hovering in front of their faces? it seems so very much like the dilemma of Aristotle's (I might not be writing this correctly, but you get my drift) Terracentricism verses Galileo's heliocentricism! are they really so unintelligent as to not see that history is repeating itself?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Leftists are certainly not above revising history in order to fulfill an agenda.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Wait- so you're accusing only leftists? Exactly what do you mean by leftist? there are various interpretations of what that word means. and so- what is their agenda exactly? is it to spread chaos and defeat law? or else why would they be supporting the one thing that gives no statute of righteous living and is only a "Get all the fun that you can into life" principal.


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

I certainly am accusing leftists. The political left is the largest support group of militant atheism, and history revisionism. The left is the most authoritarian party in America. They fabricate speech codes in the universities, cause racial division, support eugenics, their whole platform is steeped in expansion of government.

You see religion (organized religion in particular) is a competitive force against government, as it brings communities together without having to rely on government authority. They have more effective welfare programs, and they teach people to rely on their own members of the community and their own families for support rather than by governmental edict.

The left certainly is about "getting all the fun you can into life" at the expense of the productive members of society. Or else why would they be asking for free contraception at your and my expense?


John Nicol 2 years ago

Then why haven't I heard about this before?


John Nicol 2 years ago

I mean, I'm a christian. I've been to several different churches. I'm educated in what is good and bad. I know that we live in a fallen world. But not once have I heard an accusation so drastic. I'm also certain that if things as are you say, the leftists are, (at least most of them) not doing these things intentionally.


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Well John I would say that leftists have a skewed view as to what a true Christian is. They believe that when Jesus says love thy neighbor, it is grounds for government mandated wealth redistribution. They are always the champions of "separation of church and state" when no such clause exists in the constitution. To the extent that prayer is forbidden in schools and in public. Court houses that display the ten commandments are in violation of the law, along with town Christmas trees at city halls, the list of points against Christianity by the American Left is huge.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Well, what do you suggest we do about it?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Become a well informed, registered voter.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Well, that won't be in a while- I'm only 13- what do you think I should do in the meantime?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Well John, I think you should maintain a questioning attitude towards authority, particularly in the Schools. The teachers have been pumping out demoralizing curriculum such as "critical theory" that stemmed out of Godless, Marxist professors like Dewey. In essence blame every bad thing that has happened in the world on America, regardless of the fact that America is the one country that has made the most progress towards humanity, and equal rights over any other country.

Question those leftist history teachers, and atheist science teachers. Try promoting a little American exceptionalism in the classroom.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Well. I'm in a conundrum here. see- I'm Homeschooled, and my mom believes the same things I do (or, I believe the same things she does, same dif)


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Well that's a good thing John. Home schooling and charter schools are a big problem for the leftist narrative which seeks to create a government dependent society. I can't tell you how bad it is dealing with garbage like the common core curriculum.


John Nicol 2 years ago

Hurrah for homeschooling! What's a common core curriculum?


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

State funded standardized testing that actually makes the kids dumber. Check out this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZEGijN_8R0


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Onusonus 2 years ago from washington Author

Interesting.


John Nicol 2 years ago

He wrote another book on the same Scopes Monkey Trial which people severely miswrote (as in rewrote) in Inherit the Wind

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_15?url=se...


brandon 19 months ago

Saddens me that many of you commenters say you believe in god and evolution. If you believe in god, then you know the bible to be true. And if you believe the bible to be true then you know we were made from dirt (Adam) and a rib (eve) not a primordial ooz


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gconeyhiden 17 months ago from Brooklyn, N.Y.C. U.S.A

isnt it nice the way hubpages will print anything if the spelling is good. A book was recently printed that has one million random 5 digit #'s. all the #'s were selected randomly just to see what would happen. this book disproves what religious folks like to pass off as proof of God. it shows the nature of coincidence and how often it can actuaLLY happen. no matter what religious folks say about coincidence always happening for a reason is BS. randomness isnt understood by religious minds at all. apparently just random stuff flying above and beyond your comprehension.


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Onusonus 17 months ago from washington Author

And to insist as a fact that everything has happened out of pure randomness without presenting actual evidence to support your claim is presumptuous and void of any scientific process or conclusion. Therefore yours is also a belief system based on blind faith.


Nathan 16 months ago

Alrighty, I'll give it a short try, given the character limit.

1) It's not accurate to say that scientists "don't have a clue" when it comes to carbon dating. When we say it's not reliable, we're saying that it might be 65 million years old, or it might be 63 million years old, but we can't tell where within that range for sure. It's a LOT more accurate than guesswork. Don't exaggerate the problems with the method.

2) You're acting like sociological evolution and biological evolution are the same thing. Biological evolution is responsible for our CAPACITY to understand and translate language, not language itself. Human beings today are not significantly different creatures than we were 7,000 years ago, because evolution is slow. But language did allow us to use our evolutionarily-constructed brains to do things that had never been done before. The hardware was always there, though, and there's no reason to suspect an ancient Egyptian couldn't learn how to use a computer if he was taught by someone from the future. The advance of technology is not the same thing as the biological changes that take place over time. There was no "exponential growth" in brain capacity, just in how we were using the brains we already had.

3) Actually, survival of the fittest would say that humans developed increased brain power BECAUSE we suck at doing anything else. Just because we were weaker than our competitors doesn't mean that our species stops trying to survive. We couldn't win through brawn or speed, so we relied on outsmarting our opponents. Because the stupidest of us couldn't do that and died out, the human population was left only with those who were smart enough to survive using other methods, and when they reproduced, there were more smart humans, who in turn created more smart people. If none of our species had tried to survive through smarts and instead tried to fight our competitors through other means, then yes, we probably wouldn't have survived.

4) You confuse the theory of evolution with theories about how life was created (they aren't the same), but I'll bite anyway. The theory about primordial ooze doesn't suggest that every species was created in proto-form from a lightning strike. What it suggests is that lightning struck a bunch of molecules in primordial ooze and provided the energy to begin the first self-sustaining processes (life). Then those cells split into different populations of cells, which split into different populations of cells and so on. Some were perfectly fine being single-celled organisms, while others were under different pressures and evolved into more complex organisms. Humans weren't even a twinkle in nature's eye at the time of primordial ooze; we came along way, WAY after the primordial ooze had dried up.

5) The whole "militant atheism" thing comes from your belief that evolution arises from a desire to eliminate God. It more has to do with explaining a universe where God doesn't have a role. It's threatening to religion in the same way that it's threatening to believe that God isn't responsible for the weather or the sun rising.

It's also worth noting that YOU can see evolution as a religious theory because to you, it's as difficult to explain as how God created the universe. But to scientists and those who have studied evolution, there are mountains upon mountains of evidence, and in absence of God, it makes absolutely perfect sense.

If you cannot believe in a universe without God acting on it, then yes, evolution might cause some problems for you. But for those who either don't believe that God had a direct, Biblical role in the differentiation of species (as science asks us to do, since there is no fossil evidence for the Biblical account), there is literally no other scientifically-supported idea for how species differentiated, and certainly not one that is observable in organisms with short generations, like single-celled organisms.

The problem is that evolution is a bit more complex than most people realize. People think they understand it because they've seen an image of a (very misleading) line of apes transitioning to humanity, and argue based on a very flawed and simplistic idea of how evolution works. Even the non-religious make poor arguments based on false beliefs about it, so it's not shameful to admit you don't understand. But I promise if you put a little more study into it, it'll click if you give it a chance.


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Onusonus 16 months ago from washington Author

Hello Nathan,

1) The method of carbon dating is a widely debatable subject. Atheists usually choose to avoid the debate however by downplaying the valid concerns of dissenters.

I recently saw an article on the discovery of Kepler 452b. They believe it is 1400 light years away and revolves around a star that is estimated to be 6 billion years old. Nobody seems to be questioning that estimate. The fact that we have only recently seen a tangible picture of Pluto and are learning much more about it's size and surface thanks to the New Horizon mission that passed by it, is evidence to me that we still have very little knowledge about our own solar system, let alone are capable of estimating the size and age of a tiny dot 1,400 light years away.

2) "the hardware was always there" So you agree that the human brain has always been the same and never underwent an evolutionary process. And the fact that you could teach an ancient Egyptian how to use a computer is exactly my point.

3) Interesting take on a completely fabricated history of the human race. Must take a lot of faith to buy into such a theory without any proof or evidence.

4) The theory of evolution on Earth has to have a beginning (primordial ooze). Most fairy tales do. So because it is a significant factor in the story again completely fabricated without evidence, I included it as well.

5) Thanks for telling me what I believe and asserting my inability to explain how God created the universe. Typically in scientific process, evidence is presented and the theory is made based on that evidence. However for evolutionists the opposite is true. The theory was made, and people seek out evidence to prove it. Same thing with the concept of religion.

Lastly I am well aware of the famous "march of progress" picture of apes being made cousins with Humans. It was modern evolutionists that made the mistake of using apes as ancestors rather than cousins as the theory would posit. They should have drawn it more like a family tree, which is more evidence that the people who made it up had no idea what they were doing.


Quinton 7 months ago

Onusonus, you are so laughably ignorant. With that being said: to challenge and to try and deny that evolution is real is probably one of the most incorrect things I've ever seen. It is real, and we have evidence of it through fossils, which yes, do exist; we have observed it; we have logged it in scientific research. All of these are true, and attribute to the vast, and increasing, evidence towards evolution being true. What other scientific and logical, not emotional (which means faith based, because that is obviously not logical), reason do you have? Do you think humans, when they first appeared, looked like you and me do now?? Absolutely not. That just doesn't make sense. Literally - how blatantly ignorant could you possibly be? Life, in the most utterly basic sense, starting from primordial ooz and chains of amino acids makes infinitely more sense than life as we know it now just appearing out of thin air.

It's called estimation (talking about size and age of planets), and it's actually quite accurate. Of course it's not exact because we aren't closer to it, but we can calculate very accurately the age and size of planet, or anything for that matter, from almost any distance. It involves math, and there thousands upon thousands of scientists who peer check each others' work, and as it turns out, their numbers make sense. This is a clearly defined process and we have a clearly defined process of how we do it. Sorry you don't know numbers and how to obtain them, but you shouldn't go around spewing about something know nothing about. And if you're to come back saying you know and have the skills to do it, save it, because I would bet my life that you're not some superb mathematician and have no clue where to even begin to figure out that information - the age and size of planets, or anything in space, in case you want forgotten what I was talking about.

Carbon dating is very reliable way to determine the relative age of something. Thus is why we go to it when we need to know the age of something. You are a complete idiot to believe otherwise. It's not widely debated about, and I have no clue where you got that information, but it most definitely is not in slightest bit true.

I find it extremely sad and ridiculous that you refuse to believe in science because you believe a book, which was written by humans, makes sense more than something tested and known to be fact. Do you believe in magic? That's essentially what you're saying when you say you believe in a book and some being that created the earth and the universe. Literally dying right now.

What Nathan said about the survival of the fittest, makes sense. That's literally how evolution takes place. If HIV/AIDS became super virulent and was very contagious and everyone started dying except the people that are immune to it, then the gene in those people responsible for making them immune, will be passed on to their children, and to their children, and so on. After a while, you have a whole population of people immune to HIV/AIDS. That is evolution. You're ridiculous to sit there and throughly deny it up and down. Ever gotten a flu shot? That shot is based of the predicted evolution of the flu virus in Asia when it comes to the US, which happens every flu season. Evolution, and predicted evolution at that, is again real and to believe otherwise makes you so uneducated and believe in the blind faith of a book and some being that lives in the sky and all around you.

If you don't believe in the theory of evolution, then do you not believe in the theory of gravity, or the theory of quantum mechanics, or the theory of the atom, or any other theory in science? Because if not, then honestly, I would consider you a complete waste of life and you should consider the alternative to being alive, as it would better to simply not have you in it.

Science and math are facts of the universe, and it's up to us higher thinking humans to figure out all we can about the world around us. You; however, and other like you, are putting that progress to a mere crawl because of your backward and ignorant thinking, as given by your posts throughout this entire comment section. And yes, I read every single one, only to determine that you have a severe misunderstanding of how the world works and function. That sucks for you, but it's not too late to change. Just go to school and research things for yourself, rather than just paying attention to church teachings and what you deem as real. I sincerely hope you've become at least moderately more intelligent in these past years, and I hope you see this and reply because I'd like to know how much you've grown.… or retrograded.


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This is very well thought out. Thank you for an interesting read!

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