Writing for Hubpages - then there is their forum

Writing Career with Hubpages

Writing for Hubpages is a wonderful place to start your writing career. If you enjoy writing then come along and join in the fun, and at the same time you can earn a few pennies or dollars as you produce more and more wonderful good quality and informative hubs.

I started writing here over two years ago and for the majority of the time I have really enjoyed the process of learning and enjoying the camaraderie of most of the other great writers both new and old.

For the new writers

First, I would just like to say welcome to Hubpages. I hope you achieve your dreams while writing for this site. I would like to offer you my ideas of help on your adventure through this process.

I am certainly not the best person to give this advice, although it is because of a few things I have seen from this and other sites that have prompted me to write this article.

Here are my suggestions

When and if you join Hubpages, info barrel or any other writing site always read the rules and do’s and don’t’s in fact it could even be a good idea to print them off. That way you could read them without having to click through heaps of articles to find what you are looking for.

When you think you understand the process, write your first article. Research the topic you intend to write about if you are not well informed. That does not mean copy that information. The best one to start with is something that you have either done yourself and know how to do it or write about your own personal experience to prepare and help someone else.

DIY, how to, finance and technology articles all appear to be very popular topics.

Before uploading article

Always Spell check your articles before uploading. It is always a good idea to write an article then save it and put it away until the next day. This way when you read it again you will pick up many of the mistakes that you have not noticed and the spell checker has not found. Spell checkers do not pick all mistakes up.

When you are happy with your article, add some pictures and add a couple of Amazon, eBay or other capsules then click publish now and that’s it, you are now a new published writer. Join the clan.

 

Forums

Forums can be a wonderful and rewarding place to receive help when you simply cannot find the answer you need. The support you receive and encouragement is also very uplifting when you are feeling worried or dejected about something.

Now I am sorry to say that this is the reason for me writing this hub. Yes I said Hubpages is great. But no, I cannot say the same for some of the members in their forum.

Many and luckily I say most of the people and members are really helpful and would do anything to help another member learn how to improve their writing. And I have called on many of them for their help and have really appreciated the help and advice received.

BUT, there are several and I am not going to mention any names at all because most members know that what I am saying is very true. Some members for whatever reason (that I cannot understand) whether they enjoy making people cringe in fright or just like to hear their own voices, I do not know.

I cannot presume to understand their mentality for hurting and ridiculing other new or even older members for their own satisfaction.

I gave up writing fiction for years because of similar treatment. Then I started writing articles. Yes I survived, and hopefully so will others who have gone through similar ridicule. I have also been given the same treatment here too.

Actually I received an email from a new member the other day. They wanted to thank me for my nice comments, and they admitted to me that they were ready to bolt. They could not see any future here when they asked a question in the forum and were upset at the response they received.

I would just like to say “If you are a new member, please enjoy writing for Hubpages it really is a wonderful place to write”.

I would suggest that if anyone does upset you in the Forum, just ignore them. To be honest, they are not worth the effort.

If they cannot respect you, then treat them with the same kind of contempt they are trying to enforce on you. IGNORE them.

By the way have you heard the saying about bad news always travels faster, that is what is already happening and people are leaving because of it and going where people and their comments and queries are appreciated.

Other than that I wish and hope you enjoy writing for Hubpages. If you would love to join us here then join up now and start earning some money.

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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

You have some good points in this hub. I don't go very often in the forum, that's probably why I don't have such a high author hubscore. But I look at it from time to time and I agree with you, there are many great hubbers there, those who usually help you, and some others who are there just to increase their activity and hubscore without writing hubs. Then there some others who are there just to discharge their inner issues. What I do when I need help on a matter is checking for a hub on it and then I ask directly to the hubber with a comment if there is something that I don't understand. It usually works pretty well.

I think that if the hubscore would not be so much affected by the forum, more than writing hubs it seems, it would be an empty place.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

hypnodude, Thanks for taking the time to read this. Yes your probably right about scores. But why if they have to say something cant they be a little more diplomatic about it and spare peoples feelings.

After they do not like people having a go at them.


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The Rope 6 years ago from SE US

Eileen, I wish we could make a "mandatory" reading room for those of us who are new. HubPages' forums are a life of contradictions. Some are serious and some are friendly and then some are just cocktail pitter patter without the responsibility of being face to face. Once I realized the vast difference, I was able to more easily pic and choose my way through the whole site. I've learned a lot and appreciate everyone's help and guidance. I really appreciate the experience of the other writers here and am always upset when the quality of any part of HP, especially the hubs deteriorate to sublevels. Thanks for taking the time to share your opinions with all of us.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

Because attacking provokes answers, and these means traffic and higher rating. And it's also cheaper than going to a doctor. :) And of course you don't even need to be a good writer.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

the rope, Yes it is a shame that all people cant help others, but that I suppose is too much to ask. Even when you see great tragedies there are the looters its like that here.

Yes you have to watch who you reply to and who to ignore.

hypnodude, yes they must be money hungry to lower themselves to that level. Is there any hope for them?


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BeatsMe 6 years ago

Hi Eileen, it's not just hubpages forums that have mean people around. I've visited other forums and I think people online now are just less friendly. I remembered two years ago, people were so much nicer and more helpful then. Now, when you ask a legitimate question about problems, no one ever answers. I noticed what do get responses are the useless and trivial questions. They are nice to read though. At least for the first few responses. After awhile, it just becomes a waste of time.


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Marisa Wright 6 years ago from Sydney

Eileen, I've said before that I wish the general forums and the Hub-related forums were split up. I rarely see newbies being attacked in the "Need Help" or Knowledge Exchange sections - it's the other areas where the nasty people hang out.

By the way, can I ask you to fix the mention of Flickr. You can't just use any Flickr photo. You must do an Advanced Search and tick "Creative commons" and "for commercial use".

Then you MUST mention the photographer's name,otherwise it's illegal. It's a nice touch to include a link to their Flickr page (I always do).


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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

Good one - it will be very helpful to newbies and to some older Hubbers as well. Thanks.

Love and peace

Tony


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ethel smith 6 years ago from Kingston-Upon-Hull

You already know my feelings Eileen.Helium is as bad in many ways, as you know from personal experience.

The shame is it makes so many members avoid the forums and, as you say, bolt.

Much needed Hub


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tantrum 6 years ago from Tropic of Capricorn

Why people take forums so seriously ? I was a newby once and of course I was attacked. I attacked back and laughed about it. Because I didn't take it seriously now I have a lot of good friends that I made in the forum.

Virtual life, is VIRTUAL, period . And you will find a lot of different types of people in there.If you can't cope with nutters,mentals, envious, aggressive people etc, don't go in there. It's in you to find the ones that are clever, kind and worth your attention. I, personally find the forums very entertaining


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William R. Wilson 6 years ago from Knoxville, TN

Right on. The forums suck, and they would be much improved if a few posters were banned. It's not too hard to figure out which ones need to go - the ones who have thousands of forum posts and just a few hubs would be one obvious choice. I don't know why HP staff allows the trolls to hang around and drive off people who actually write.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Beats me, Yes you are probably right. We can avoid it although when new often people are nervous in the beginning so it does affect them. Thanks

Marissa, you are right I forgot that. I have deleted it so all ok now. As I said in the hub people do ask for help in help and are put off maybe they are more sensitive.


pgrundy 6 years ago

A number of sites don't even have community forums, or if they do, they are small and for technical help only. You don't get the responses and comments like you do here, but you don't get harassed either. Bukisa, Associated Content, and Suite101 all offer the chance to make some money without being harassed by trolls. Suite101 has copy editors, which helps a lot. You cannot write rants there. You have to write actual content and it has to follow some very tough guidelines. So it's much drier. Demand Studios is another good place to make a few bucks writing without drama and unpleasantness, especially if you like technical writing and can do it.

I think that HP is a good place to get started, but after awhile it becomes clear that you can do as well or better by putting your persthen onal thoughts in a blog or selling them to paper media, and writing your informative content for a friendlier revenue sharing site or for outright sale. The forums have created a very abusive environment for writers here at HP. If you visit there, you can pick up a bad case of trollitis. They will follow you to your hubs and tell you what a jerk you are even if you are talking about the weather. Some people don't mind this, others get sick of it. I'm in the second category. You can leave off the comment capsule or delete the comments, but that comes with other problems (reduced page views, enraged thwarted trolls and bad mouthing of your work everywhere else for deleting comments). Also, after a few years, you wake up to enough comments to keep you busy for a very long time, day in and day out, and it gets oppressive. When you write for print, you don't have to give every single person on the planet who scans your work the time of day. You just go on to the next project.

That's just my view. Great hub. :)


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Tony mac, thanks for that.

Ethel, thanks like you said in other one, they are much friendly no nasties in there at least not yet anyway.

Tantrum, Some people when learning and new want help and are more sensitive than others. I am glad that you were not scared off. And yes there are heaps of great people and writers in here that is for sure and I did mention that. thanks.

William, It is a shame, I mainly go in just to find out information. I do not post very often. I have tried a few times, BUT I am a chicken, thats for sure, But having said that there are many helpful people there thats for sure.


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Jerilee Wei 6 years ago from United States

Very much needed hub. I made a conscious decision when I joined hubpages to limit my participation in the forums to inquiring about technical problems I might be experiencing; congratulate other hubbers when they have a success to celebrate; encourage others; check out the hubnuggets and vote; and to never ever discuss politics or religion.

Part of my reasoning has to do with time -- time spent hanging out on the forums, is time I should be devoting to writing, researching, or belongs to my family and friends. The other part of my decision was the mean spiritedness of the part of some that I observed.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Pgrundy, thank you for stopping by. It is hard I know thats why I wrote this. But I suppose every place has its own little problems one way or another too.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Jeri le we, that sounds like it could be a good idea. thanks for stopping by.


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shazwellyn 6 years ago from Great Britain

Eileen? Are we talking about the religion forums? I dont do them.. it gets too nasty for me!

When I first started, I was made to feel a fool of my questions and it seemed that I was doing everything wrong. But I thought 'come on Sharon, see it from their side. They have forgotten what it is like to know nothing!' I thought that I had to prove myself and show people that I am not a threat and that I am an ok person.

I learned quickly to avoid religion topics. I hope I come across as an ok person? I would HATE to upset anyone!

Do you think the people that are upsetting others realise it?

A thought provoking hub, Eileen x


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

Ellen, it isn't only in the forums that one is harrassed. Look around on the comment sections of some of the hubs. Those people who do this activity on the hubs in the comments sections hide there because they KNOW that hubpages doesn't always look or pay attention to those. Now I just got harrassed by a hubber in her comments section--yess she deleted all my comments except one, but then she wrote me an e-mail and then tol me after a few e-mails that were passed back and forth that I was stalking her and that she called the police on me. I immediately sent the to Hubpage Team. She gave me her phone nuer and kind of demaned that I call her. Don't ever give your your phone number and I told her that I would never call her, hence the letter that I got stating that I was harrassing her and never to contact her again--which she did the first contact by e-mail.

Moral of this story---don't give your phone number out and if you get threats like this in e-mail forward them to Team Hubpage. It is not only in the forums-----be aware of that.


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fishtiger58 6 years ago from Momence, Illinois

A great hub. I agree about the forums. I choose to not comment and leave a certain topic in the forums when it gets nasty. I see no reason for the meanness in the forums. I could see this problem 1 month into my membership at HubPages. I only comment when things are nicey nice. Some people just like trouble, they look for it and get off on it. This is not why I joined HubPages. Thanks for a really wonderful read, held my attention.


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Lissie 6 years ago from New Zealand

Nice hub Eileen - I remember when the forums were nice places to hang out - but no longer really. Personally I think the change was when the format changed and you could see the recent posts in any forums - up until then I didn't even register that the religous forums were active - far less anyone took them seriously.

its getting worse - even the hang out seems full of people who think an online forum can fix their personal problems - totally bizarre!


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Russell-D 6 years ago from Southern Ca.

Eileen - 4 mos. ago I asked a question which raised a few hackles and a bit of dander, even a few nasty replies. I thought the question simple , "Who do you write for?", deserving of a simple answer. With some it got personal, a few got lengthy and long winded, but my favorite was from a reader/writer who called me ELITIST! At my age, things bounce off . Negatives get shrugs or laughs. Perhaps that's the correct attitude to bring to the forums. David Russell


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rebekahELLE 6 years ago from Tampa Bay

very nice, simple and to the point. when I first joined, I was so excited to find such a great writing platform. I didn't go near the forums, as I was writing and trying to learn as much as I could. I've never been a huge forum or chat room person, but wandered in finally to ask a question, of which no one answered, and then commented on some thread.

at first I was completely ignored and then someone was just nasty for no reason. my better judgment told me to ignore, but I didn't. there is a terrible gang mentality amongst some of them that to me clearly shows what kind of person they really are. a couple follow the pretty avatars around, others ridicule and make fun of anyone from US, on and on.

it often reminds me of middle school mentality. lots of enablers on the forum. but also some really wonderful people. I try to limit my time and choose a thread that looks somewhat intelligent... and then you see those ridiculous remarks from the same people! so I leave and sign off. thanks for sharing, nice and to the point. :)


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Dame Scribe 6 years ago from Canada

Hi Eileen, very good points outlined. I hope newbies and hopefuls don't get scared off either and they learn to identify those that are genuinely helpful and knowledgeable. Great article! :)


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Obscurely Diverse 6 years ago from Tennessee, U.S., Earth, Milky Way via Cosmos

Yep, Eileen; there is a lot of crap here amid the high-quality. Some of us have our filters in place, while the ones who should have the strongest filtration (hello, Hubvices..uhmm, I mean HP staff ) do not.

Right on William; I don't even post in the forum, but have checked it out a few times and I already know what you just said is very true. If the "staff" at HubPages is not careful, we'll find ourself being apart of a social club and/or community network...as opposed to the initial reason why many of us signed up - for a writing community.

Who knows, maybe we are getting MySpace/Twitter rejects with nothing else better to do than pollute the site & the forums.

That reminds me, I seen a new hubber the other day who had a pornographic image (facial cum-shot, to be exact) as their profile pic. I didn't do anything about it because it was so ridiculous it made me wonder what the hell I was even doing here. I mean really, how in the hell do you get away with that initially. They need to start a process that involves something besides us flagging for them; maybe up their staff numbers for one thing, so they can help rectify this quality issue at hand.

Anyway, you've got a good subject line in this hub...


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amy jane 6 years ago from Connecticut

I think this hub will be very helpful to newbies. I stay clear of the forums for the most part these days. No time for the drama! :)


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Nemingha 6 years ago

My personal thoughts about the forums have already been voiced in comments made by others but I would like to thank you for writing this helpful advice for potential new hubbers. If they follow it, they're days at Hubpages will be happy ones!


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jill of alltrades 6 years ago from Philippines

Thanks for this wonderful hub Eileen! This is very timely and highly informative.

I enjoy writing and have found some beautiful and supportive people here in Hubpages. I rarely visit the forums so I usually learn about some things rather late. I really can't understand why some people make nasty comments or worse some personal attacks.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

shazwellyn, No I am making no reference to any religious or any other kind. All I want is for someone to take control.

We are here to write not to be continually harassed and made fun of that is all I want to see the harassment finished.

Lady Genevere, thats terrible. What did the hubpages management do about it. I honestly cannot understand why a great place like this site dont appear to have any control with what is happening. Surely something can be done.

I am a nobody, but I just could not listen without saying something.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

fishtiger, yes I have to agree with you.

Lissie glad to see you back again, I dont know when it started because I dont go in there much either.

Russel D, yes I know what you are saying and understand.

Rebechelle, Yes I noticed someone trying to help the other day and she was laughed and told she didnt know what she was talking about. They forget that no one knows everything. and the day we die is the day we stop learning.

and not before.

Same Scribe, Yes I hope so too. We have to look after the new writers


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Marisa Wright 6 years ago from Sydney

Eileen/Lissie, I agree it all started when the format changed to show all the latest posts. I'm sure the religious and political forums were nasty before then,but most of us never noticed.

The thing is, you don't have to avoid the forums - you just have to stay in the Hub-related forums and ignore the "latest posts" listing.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

obscurely diverse, Yes there are problems, all I wanted to do was not let the new eager writers to be discouraged. I was sent an email again today no names but evidently there are several people that have banded together away from hubpages I was sent one through facebook the other day too.

I have no intention of leaving I like and enjoy it here except for what I stated. I do also write for info barrel which does not have this problem in their newly started forum.

I must say the admin have a tight rein on what is posted over there. I believe this would not be tolerated there.

Amy Jane I hope they stay here.

Neminga, I hope the new one enjoy and stay


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Jill of all trades. Like you I do not go there often. Hope it works out.

Marissa, I agree with you, but when you are new you want to have a look around and see and ask how it all goes together.

That is not what happens a lot of the time.

I honestly did not expect this type of response. I did not realise just how many people are fed up with it.

Cant the management do something. Like I said earlier at another site their admin controls everything that is put up on their site. yes it is only new, but I wrote an article on birds and I used a little word describing the rear of a bird and it was flagged until it was checked. Which I believe that to be really good. It stops rubbish being put up.

Anyway folks I just hope something will be done about it

before we lose more members, it would be a great shame.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

I think it all goes down to traffic, if these behaviours are allowed someone benefits from them, like big G page rank. But what I find confusing is the amount of influence the forum has on author's score. It's something I really don't understand, but maybe I'm just envious because I go there rarely and don't use that opportunity. :) Nevertheless it wouldn't be fair if the site goes on thanks to writers while those who benefit are forum writers. It's bad enough commenting on hubs and not receiving answers.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

hypnodude, I cannot comment on the earning side as do not know enough about this on this site. I know what they say we get but as to how the forum is involved I can only guess.

I just hope that the admin does a good job soon and sorts it all out before more leave and spread it all over facebook.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

The forum is involved because the more you write posts the higher your hub score goes, the higher your hub score goes the more followers you are likely to have and the more chances you have to be featured in the first pages, so you get both inside and outside traffic. Even if your hubs are nothing exceptional. If you have a look at some profiles you'll see what I mean. You can't be over active in the forum if you have to write hubs. And this is a writer site. That's why I prefer to comment on hubs. :)


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

hypnodude. Oh ok then. tar.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

And also I prefer to comment on hubs because those good hubbers on the forum who gladly help you will answer too on their hubs, and since in this way I can directly increase their traffic I think it's better. This way I focus the traffic to those I think deserve it. :) This hub is going well-travelled, I'm glad for this.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Hypnodude, I did not expect this result thats for sure. I think it does prove that people care about hubpages which is really good.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

Definitely, we all care for what we love.


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

I wrote a hub that brings all this up too and if everyone who doesn't like the new setup could somehow get management's attention maybe we would be heard. Anyway here is my hub, if anyone is interested. http://hubpages.com/hub/To-Read-Or-Not-To-Read-Hub...

The other thing that is wrong with the new setup is that if you stopped folowing someone before the new setup yu didn't get anyting of theirs on your hubtivity, now even if you did stop following them you STILL get their stuff. That annoys me to no end.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Lady guinevere. Thats funny. To be honest I think I have gone into hubactivity onlyu two or three times.

I always try to read peoples articles that read and comment on mine and a few others that interest me But do not read the others. And also I like to try to read and help the newones.. I will have a look at your hub.


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rebekahELLE 6 years ago from Tampa Bay

hypnodude, I'm not sure that forum posting elevates the hubber score that much. I have gone periods without posting and my score was not affected. if you check the top hubbers, I've never seen many of them in the forums. I think it has more to do with contributing to the community as a whole, writing hubs, rating and flagging hubs, posting comments, not just forum participation. many in the forums don't have high hubber scores. it does rather amaze me also what is allowed.


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hypnodude 6 years ago from Italy

Well, it might be that I'm wrong :)


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Sally's Trove 6 years ago from Southeastern Pennsylvania

This was a very refreshing read, Eileen, both your Hub and all the comments. HP is a great platform for writing whatever you want in whatever style is yours (within the HP rules, of course) with decent exposure on the net, and those are the reasons I continue to participate here. I, as you, would encourage new members to look at these positives if they are considering leaving HP because of the negative aspects of the forums.

I visit the forums when I have an HP technical question, if I notice a topic that I feel I can add something useful to, or when I want to learn what Hubbers are thinking about a project I'm researching. Other than that, I stay away. If I want to share something with the community here, the better venues for me are Hubs and their comments and HP contact email, through which I've made some wonderful friends.

Thumbs up for writing on this topic and encouraging an exchange of ideas through comments.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Sally's Trove, Thanks for that glad you agree. Yes I think that is the best way to handle these things. In and out of the forum when needed may be the way to go.

I only go in there like you as am often unsure whether to put my suggestion on a question in as if I am wrong then its just not worth the effort. The retaliation...

Thanks for stopping by and commenting.


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Teresa Laurente 6 years ago from San Antonio, Texas, U.S.A.

Great points you have here Eileen Hughes. Thank you for sharing this very useful information. More power to you. All you other hubs are just as great and informative too.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Thanks for that and for taking the time to read it. cheers.


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ateenyi 6 years ago from Chicago

Extremely Knowledgeable Hub!!!!!!!

Eileen Hughes aptly stated that writing hubs is the excellent forum to upgrade and enhance writing skills. It had got dual advantage, it not only enhances our writing skills but also we can earn. Thanks a lot for guiding and sharing such precious information.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

ateenyi, Thanks for stopping by. Yes, actually I said Hubpages is a great place to write and earn money. Not actually the excellent forum to visit though.

I hope you understand that the forum is the place to hopefully go when you need help at hubpages. thanks again.


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D.A.L. 6 years ago from Lancashire north west England

Eileen I have booked marked this page for future reference. As a relatively new comer to hub pages I found your hub an informative read. I must say that my hubs have received only favourable comments so far{touch wood} and have found that people like your self nice to communicate with and encouraging. May be my subject of nature attracts only nice people. Thank you for sharing this hub with us.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

DAL. You are very welcome at any time. Hope the nice ones keep going to you. Good luck and happy writing and enjoy yourself here while you earn lots of money hopefully.


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lovelypaper 6 years ago from Virginia

Great advice for newbies.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

lovelypaper, thanks for stopping by


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

The ignore part is perhaps the most important one. I think we all have enough intelligence about us to recognize the difference between constructive criticism and ridicule, ignorance and thoughtfulness. If someone has an opinion that does not exactly meet my own, I'm fine with that. And I'm interested in hearing the arguments in favor of the opposing opinion—so long as it is done based on fact, and so long as the argument is articulated intelligently and in a thoughtful manner.

The reality is that no matter where we may go, there will always be an 'element' that seeks to simply be mean or derogatory. It's as much a fact of life as junk mail. And like junk mail, one need not look at it. Just throw it away.


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Happy_Days 6 years ago

Thanks for the tips, Thumbs up


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

springboard, what you say is so true, but when you are new you are feeling your way. And at this time you are more susceptible to being put down.

This is what I wanted to avoid, and try to let the newbies understand not to let these people scare them off.

Thanks for stopping by great comment

Happy days, thanks for reading this.


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bonny2010 6 years ago from outback queensland

thanks for the hub it was really interesting - havent come across any of the bad guys yet - look forward to it though as I simply detest bullies- maybe we should call them out inthe forums - you know like the old gun fighters of old - safe travelling and great to talk to a fellow aussie


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

bonny1010, Thanks for stopping by, yeah thats sounds good have you got your pistols. I wish you luck, but if someone does annoy you just ignore them.

So what part of oz do you live in.


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Chin chin 6 years ago from Philippines

Thanks Eileen for this straightforward, helpful hub. I'm still quite new in HubPages and I do like the writing platform. I don't frequent the forum but I have seen pretty hard hitting posts. I do read around to learn or just be informed when I have time. I do more readings of the hubs I like or those from hubbers I follow. God bless.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

chin chin, This hub was just a spur of the moment idea to help prevent the new writers like your self from bolting if someone did give you a hard time. thanks for taking the time to read it. cheers.


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lindagoffigan 6 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Right on William Wilson and P. Grundy.


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advisor4qb 6 years ago from On New Footing

Interesting hub. I also had a discouraging time in the forum, but I let it roll off my back. Some people are just angry inside and feel the need to drag everyone else down. I stay as far away from those people as I can get.

I wondered what happened to pgrundy!


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

lindagoffigan, Sorry not sure actually which way you mean this with these two people are they a problem???

advisor4qb, Yes I think we all need to turn the other cheek and ignore them.


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WriteAngled 6 years ago from Treorci, Cymru

I fled to Hubpages from Helium, where I found the forums full of unpleasant, vindictive, smug navel-gazers. It was the worst online "community" I have ever had the misfortune to experience. In contrast, I'm having a marvellous time on the forums here. Yes, some of the threads can get heated, but, on the whole, HP is a marvellous, supportive and helpful community and the forum reflects the diverse range of hubbers' beliefs and interests.


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dragonbear 6 years ago from Essex UK

Interesting and thoughtful hub - enjoyed following the thread too.

I'm new in ‘hubworld’ and have ventured into the forums, even posted my first hub for comment. So far I've had positive experiences, but I have seen some of the, shall we say, more controversial posts.

I think overall I prefer to comment on hubs. I'll surf the forums and join in where it seems appropriate. Eileen Hughes is right that there are some really great supportive hubbers out there.

Life is too short to get all hossed up with others - I'll leave those who want to waste their energy that way to do so.

Keep it positive – keep it friendly. Hubpages rule OK?


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Writeangled, I know exactly where you are coming from re helium, but in all honesty. They actually were responsible for resurecting my writing. I had been put down so much with people telling me I could not write (fiction) That when I actually found someone saying something nice I was stunned.

Dragonbear, Glad to see another new writer. I have to agree with you that commenting is the best way to go. Still go to the forums but do not be put off or scared away from this great writing site. Thats the main thing. And certainly agree with the positive and friendly part. cheers.

It gave me the courage to take on writing articles and give up on fiction. So I do have good memories and wont forget those that helped me to survive. Thanks for stopping by.


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mel22 6 years ago from ,

I've noticed whether you're asking a question in help forum or answering in Help forum there seems to be ridicule from a few Hubbers who think that only they ( a select few ) have the right to be there and answer. When giving opinion and stating it , you're attacked even when only quoting it as your opinion. I don't mind being corrected but not with ridicule. A few start following up on every comment you make to ridicule it and forget to answer the original poster in need of help. I found a few who seemed obsessed with ridiculing my comments until I got literally upset and uttered (texted) a few expletives and got banned. You're right, it's better just to ignore the ridicule. People with the intent to make someone look foolish in front of the auidience of hubbers over a few mistakes only do so because they probably live rotten lives and feel the need to blame others !


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Mel22, the main thing is not to let them bother you. In fact the best way to beat them I think is to completely IGNORE THEM. Do not let them get to you.

They certainly dont help the new writers, and it does spoil the image of hubpages. Most members are really great so join them. thanks for stopping by


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Beth100 6 years ago from Canada

I consider myself to be still fairly new at HP, and I have noticed a change in tempo and attitude in the forums of today and when I first joined. I have been at the receiving end of trolls and didn't know what to do at first. The attacks almost caused me to leave HP. But then, I realized that there is always good and bad -- it comes as a package. It's what we choose to allow and what to ignore that makes the difference. I am glad that I didn't leave as I have met many great writers and made just as many new friends. You have given solid advice to new members and in-between ones like me on handling the forums. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

Beth100, I am so glad you did stay and found the good people that are here. There sure many more good than bad I am certain of that. thanks for stopping by. cheers


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fdoleac 6 years ago from Hollis, New Hampshire

I utilize the forums to gain advice and information on subjects that assist me in building my business. You always have to consider the source.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

fdoleac, That is very true, it is the bullying that I do not like and the way they try to scare of the new writers. Thanks for reading.


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upal19 6 years ago from Dhaka

I was also in helium. it did not suit me. so I came here. I enjoy the environment here.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

upal19, I suppose every site has its good and not so good points. So we just have to enjoy the best of each site. thanks for stopping by. cheers


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States

Eileen A very good hub. I have been around only for a few months and didn't do much the first couple of months, but I decided to hang in there. I've only recently started going to the forums so they are new to me. My feelings don't get hurt that easily and I haven't had a bad experience yet. I would like to be treated considerately and that is how I try to treat others. Thanks for addressing this problem.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

pamela99, thanks you for stopping by. I wish you all the best and hope you love writing for hubpages and enjoy the experience.


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networkrecruiting 6 years ago from Spicy Alabama

Hi Eileen,

Thank you for stopping by my hub and the nice comment you left. I appreciate this hub you have written, it is unfortunate folks cannot be nice to each other for the sake of peace. I hope they reconsider their actions.


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Eileen Hughes 6 years ago from Northam Western Australia Author

networkrecruiting, Yes I hope it stops, it would make it a much more enjoyable place thats for sure. Just try not to get involved in their little skirmishes thats all.

Thanks for stopping by

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