Literature Review - The Little Book of Thunks; (Part 2) Questions Which Raise More Questions in the Minds of Children

Introduction

Mention the word 'philosophy' to the average person and you may see the colour instantly drain from their face. Philosophy has an aura of ultra high brow pretentious debate, involving long winded jargonese, theoretical concepts, and arguments which go round and round in circles without ever actually breaking the circle to arrive at a definite conclusion.

Yet philosophy really should not be intimidating to anyone. In fact, it should be fascinating to everyone of all kinds and all ages because it deals with fundamental questions about the world, life and humanity, and it can deal with them using really simplistic questions. It is only the answers which are difficult.

In particular, this supposedly most intellectual of subjects should appeal to children. This is because it enables children to argue (debate) endlessly without ever being told that they are wrong. And if it appeals to children, it should also appeal to teachers, who can use philosophy to discover the mental agility of their students and learn whether they can get their minds around the most intractable problems.

The best way to show how this can work in practice is to take a few such problems / questions, and to explore how they may be tackled by a group of children (and also adults), and how those answers may then be turned upside down and inside out and stretched in every conceivable direction to create new questions and new answers to reveal the thought processes going on in the heads of the group members.

On this page I select three examples of these types of questions, and I let my own mind wander freely round them to show the way in which a group discussion might develop in a class full of children. Hopefully this will help to demonstrate the value of philosophy for children. The examples are not my own - they come from 'The Little Book of Thunks', a small book of philosophy questions written by Ian Gilbert, and they are just a few out of the hundreds of such questions which the book contains.

The Basics of the Book

'The Little Book of Thunks' was written by Ian Gilbert, and first published by Crown House Publishing in Carmarthen in Wales and in Bethel, Connecticut, USA in the year 2007. The book is 96 pages long and includes 260 examples of 'thunks'.

About the Author

Author Ian Gilbert is a former languages teacher, educational speaker and award winning writer. And he is the founder of Independent Thinking Ltd, a group which aims to promote innovative educational methods, quality teaching and motivation of children. The mission statement of Independent Thinking Ltd is:

'To enrich people's lives by changing the way they think - and so to change the world'

Links are included later on this page.

The Book which Inspired this Page

In the year 2007, 'The Little Book of Thunks' was published. This small volume by the writer Ian Gilbert has big ideas. It suggests nothing less than a whole new way of assessing the aptitude of children in the school environment, and bringing the best out of them. It presents a convincing argument that by asking the right kind of questions of our children, a new generation of objective and enquiring minds could be developed, children who are prepared to listen to others whilst speaking for themselves, who can appreciate the world for what it is whilst developing new ways of looking at it, and consider strange ideas whilst challenging established truths.

And all this can be done by asking of the children the simplest, seemingly most banal of questions.

On Page 1 of this two part exploration of the concept behind the 'Little Book of Thunks', I write about the theory and its potential benefits, and I describe the layout of the book. I also take a look at the kind of questions which are included as examples of good 'thunks'. But much of the appeal of this idea is not the answers to the specific questions asked, but rather the way a session of 'thunk' can branch off into different directions, creating whole new questions and new answers which may conflict with the answer to the original question. If that all sounds a bit convoluted, it really isn't, as will become clear as you read on.

On this page the emphasis is not on the book, but on the questions. I take just a few of the questions in the book and show how a philosophical discussion session may develop, throwing up challenging ideas and debates among children of all ages (and adults of all ages too!)

Page One

Literature Review - The Little Book of Thunks; (Part 1) Philosophy for Children and Everyone

For information about 'The Little Book of Thunks', including a more detailed description of the book, the philosophy, and more examples of the types of questions posed, please visit my other page on this subject.

A Brief Explanation of Thunks

A thunk is described as:

'a beguilingly simple-looking question about everyday things that stop you in your tracks and helps you start looking at the world in a whole new light.'

The above definition of a thunk is included in 'The Little Book of Thunks' and it pretty much sums up what the theory is all about. It is about asking questions. But not just any questions. It is about asking questions which have no clear answers, but which encourage the mind to explore the question and think around it.

These Examples of Thunk

The three examples below come from the book.

Mr Gilbert is at pains in his book to point out that teachers should not volunteer answers to these questions, but rather they should allow their pupils to think logically, laterally, metaphysically, or any other which way they can to conjure up their own answers. However, I am no teacher and I'm not in charge of a group of children, so I've felt at liberty to explore these three examples and consider them from every angle I can, whilst hopefully resisting the temptation to supply a definitive answer - something 'The Little Book of Thunks' certainly wouldn't approve of.

I've tried to adhere to Mr Gilbert's way of thinking, expanding the questions into new areas, following where they lead me without too much preconception or prejudice. In so doing, I hope to demonstrate just how fruitful these kind of questions can be when introduced into a group discussion; how they can encourage analysis of words and concepts, debate on rights and wrongs, and interpretation of events and scenarios.

  • Is Black a colour?
  • If I switch the lights out does the wall change colour?

Example 1 - Definition, Interpretation and Perception

The two questions in the blue box on the right illustrate just how relatively simplistic questions can lead us into a veritable minefield of issues concerned with definition, interpretation and perception.

Is black a colour? Well, ask a scientist, an artist, and a member of the general public, and you may get three very different answers according to how they define colour. The scientific definition of colour is to do with how we interpret different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation emitted or reflected within the visible spectrum of light. Since black is the result of a complete absence of electromagnetic radiation, black cannot be a colour. But in the art world, black can be created by combining pigments of many different colours together. If black is created by combining colours, then surely black must be a colour? Which is right? The word 'colour' is very much in the public domain, so maybe we should just use the definition the majority in the general populace would use? But what is that? Definition is everything.

I have my own views, but we won't go into that further here - instead lets move on to an even more interesting follow-up question. If I switch the lights out does the wall change colour? Simplistically, most of us would immediately answer no. Of course the pigments in the wall are still the same, so if the wall is - say - very pale green, then it will remain very pale green. But wait a moment - if colour is how we perceive electromagnetic radiation emitted or reflected from objects, then surely the wall is now black because there is no light being emitted or reflected (and if the wall is now black, does it have any colour at all?)

One could take this question much further. Suppose an intense red light was shone on the wall? Now the wall has definite colour, but is it pale green (the colour reflected by the wall pigment in normal white light), or red (the colour we interpret it as now)? Interpretation is everything.

And what about colour blind people? Do they not have the right to consider the wall as grey, because that is how they perceive it? And what if no one is in the room? If colour is all about how we perceive it, does the wall have any colour if there is no one there to see it? And what about insects, many of which can see different wavelengths to us. Some insects can see in ultraviolet light, but not red light, and therefore see very different colours. Perception is everything.

And if you still think a wall is one colour regardless of how we define, interpret or perceive colour, well, let's leave aside walls, and consider water. We are happy to talk about the water in the oceans being blue, or green or grey or black depending on how light reflects off it at different times of day, even if the water still has the same chemical constitution at all times. If water can change colour without changing constitution, why not walls? And what about ... ?

One can see how this particular thunk can be answered in many different ways, leading on to a multitude of further questions.

  • If I fill a vase with concrete is it still a vase? What if I fill it with flowers?
  • If I stick a bunch of flowers in my mouth do I become a vase?

Example 2 - What Are You Talking About!?

These questions are all to do with defining words. How do we accurately define something? Can anything in the world - even the most mundane of objects - be defined precisely?

A vase is generally defined in dictionaries as 'an open container used for holding flowers or for ornamentation'. So is an ugly trash bin with flowers in it a vase? After all it's an open container which holds flowers. Does it have to be decorative as well? If the 'vase' is designed for the purpose of being a vase, but it's ugly and filled with concrete, then it is neither decorative nor open, so do we still have a vase? What if it's painted to make it ornamental? What if instead of concrete it's filled with thick mud? What if flowers are then stuck into that mud? At what stage does it become a vase? Suppose the vase is heavy and we decide to use it as a doorstop? Is it now a vase or a doorstop? Or is it both? If I stick a bunch of flowers into the mouth of a supermodel, the result may be decorative and it certainly contains flowers, but have we turned her into a vase?

'The Little Book of Thunks' develops this to question whether the hole in the middle of an open vase is part of the vase. After all, the hole is of really integral importance. Without it, it wouldn't be a container, so is the hole and the air it contains a part of the vase? If it is, the air is constantly changing, so is the vase constantly changing?

Expanding the theme into a totally different direction, is the air in our lungs a part of us as a living human being? We think our legs are a part of us, but we can take away our legs (a little drastic as philosophical examples go) and we will still be a living human being, but take away the air, and we wouldn't be a living human being. So is air more of a vital part of us as living human beings than our legs? If not, why not? If you say it isn't a part of us because the air is constantly being replaced, well, so are our skin cells. If you think it's not a part of us because the air is not solid, well, our bodies and cells are full of liquids like blood and water, and if they were all drained out of us, there would be nothing much human about us. Many of these liquids are used up, replaced or replenished, just like the air in our lungs. What's the difference?

So what are we talking about when we describe something as a vase? What are we talking about when we describe something as a human being? What about anything else we can describe in the English language?

  • Can you prove that all ravens are black?

Example 3 - 'proof' of a 'fact'

This is a theme very close to my own heart! In the scientific world, and also in the worlds of politics, religion and mythology, paranormal events, and conspiracy theories, questions of proof and fact are key to many of the arguments raised. 'Proof' and 'fact' may mean different things to different people according to their own standpoint and the agenda they are arguing on. Ravens are big birds which are black - it's a fact. Or is it? How do we define a fact? Perhaps we can only call something a fact if we can prove it to be so. But how do we define a proof? Maybe one raven in a million is white. Maybe no one has ever seen a white raven, but that doesn't mean they don't exist, merely that they haven't yet been seen to exist.

Do we have to systematically and simultaneously spy on every single square metre of Planet Earth just to be absolutely certain that no ravens other than black ravens exist? If we have to do this - clearly an impractical impossibility - then are we saying that it's impossible to prove this as a fact? If that is the case, do the words 'proof' and 'fact' have any meaning at all? Can anything be proven absolutely 100%? Or should we accept a more lenient definition of 'proof' and 'fact' such as the judicial courts' definition of 'beyond reasonable doubt?'

And even setting aside the question of proof, and just supposing there is one white raven somewhere in the world, can we nevertheless reasonably describe ravens as black birds, or do we have to be precise and say that 99.999999% of ravens are black birds? And even if we can't be sure there are no white ravens (think albinos), we can be pretty certain there are no pink-spotted yellow ravens here on Earth. But can we be sure there isn't a parallel universe in which ... no, now we're just getting silly, though Star Trek enthusiasts may well think differently!)

Think about this next time a scientist, politician, preacher, activist, or proponent of some theory describes something as 'fact' or talks about 'proof'. Should their facts and proofs be questioned or can we accept them for what they are?

N.B: If all ravens are black, are they all colourless? Hmm - we've already been down that road, so I think we'll stop here. I hope I've made my point.

Conclusions

I hope indeed I have made my point. I suspect school children will too often avoid thinking for themselves. If they are asked a question they will give the answer they are supposed to give, the answer the teacher wants to hear. They will avoid using their brains to critically evaluate the question and the answer to that question. And they may never develop the ability to think up their own questions and use their own imaginations to visualise different scenarios. Such children will grow into adults who have exactly the same limitation in how they use their minds.

By asking questions such as those I have explored above, I hope everyone can see that a whole new world of thought processes, speculations and hypotheses can be opened up. Some of these thoughts, speculations and hypotheses may seem quite trivial or banal even to children, but that is not the point. The point is that by using questions like this, children will begin to think about the true meanings of words and phrases, how they perceive the world around them, how they make their own judgements, and how they critically evaluate a scientific statement or indeed any other statement by any other person.

I would say that 'The Little Book of Thunks' is well worth checking out by teachers, and by parents for the benefit of their children, but also perhaps by any other adult who just likes to indulge in good verbal discussions and arguments. I hope everyone can also see that asking philosophical questions of this kind can be fun, giving rise to fascinating debate. Whether or not one buys the book, philosophy is certainly not for high-brow elitists; it's for everyone.

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Greensleeves Hubs 2 years ago from Essex, UK Author

stuff4kids; Very much appreciate all you say Mindi, and the perceptive comment regarding critical and analytical thinking skills.

I do feel that this kind of approach should indeed be a part of the curriculum. Children certainly need to learn 'facts', but they also need to be able to critically evaluate those facts. And they need to learn how to assess the precise meanings or intentions which lie behind words and statements which they hear. Cheers Alun.


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stuff4kids 2 years ago

Thank you so much, Alun, for bringing this to my attention. What a truly marvellous little book this seems to be.

I only wish that - if it is all that it promises - it was a compulsory part of the educational curriculum in schools. The skills of critical, analytic thinking are the fundamental cognitive tools required of all long-term and fulfilling learning.

Thanks you so much for sharing this. :D


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Greensleeves Hubs 2 years ago from Essex, UK Author

Kathleen; Thanks! I'm glad you used the phrase 'so much to think about', because of course the key purpose of the book which this hub promotes is to encourage people, especially children, to think. 'Thinking', rather than merely 'learning', is so important to mental development. I'm grateful for your warm comment and for the shares. Cheers! Alun.


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Kathleen Cochran 2 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

So much to think about in this hub. Well researched and presented. Had to SHARE.


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Greensleeves Hubs 3 years ago from Essex, UK Author

Thanks MsDora. I'd love to sit in on a class of children of different ages and see how they tackle these kind of questions. It would be interesting to see how different personalities and ways of thinking are expressed. Cheers. Alun.


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MsDora 3 years ago from The Caribbean

You're right about philosophical discussions seeming not to have conclusions, but they can be interesting and they do affect your thoughts afterward. The questions from the book of thunks are also very stimulating. Thank you for sharing.


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Greensleeves Hubs 3 years ago from Essex, UK Author

Writer Fox; Thanks for that! I completely agree. Knowledge is all very well, but being able to think clearly is even more important for a child. Many of the questions in the book are very abstract, and cover issues such as morality or thought processes. Others are more straightforward, but can still be argued from many different points of view without definitive answers. I'm quite sure the discussions these questions provoke must be very beneficial for the development of inquiring minds. I appreciate the accolades. Alun.


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Writer Fox 3 years ago from the wadi near the little river

This is a wonderful approach for teaching the cognitive skills of logic and reasoning. I believe schools should do more to teach students how to think. The book you recommend sounds like an excellent tool and useful as an introduction to philosophy for children. Voted up and interesting!


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Greensleeves Hubs 3 years ago from Essex, UK Author

JessBraz; Many thanks for your comment. I only came across this book for the first time a few weeks ago when a friend showed it to me, but immediately it struck me how questions of this kind could be so useful in enabling children to 'open their minds' and think for themselves. What's more, they can lead to great discussions among adults too!

My other page gives more detail about the layout of the book and a few more of the types of questions included, but I hope if you do get hold of a copy, you find it both useful and fun. Best wishes and cheers for the vote! Alun


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JessBraz 3 years ago from Canada

Very fascinating hub! I certainly believe that children should be encouraged to question everything... Having that stance might prove frustrating for me when I actually become a parent. :) But I hope that I'll be able to encourage my children to look at things from many different angles, not just the most obvious one... Having the ability to open your mind like that carries over into other aspects of your life.

I'll definitely have to check out this book, it sounds very interesting. I'm a fan of 'arguing' with people. lol. I might really enjoy the read and I can save it for my future kids.

Great job with this hub! Voted up and interesting.

Cheers!

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