Project Pipeline, now known as Fortune School of Education

My Experience with Project Pipeline

Project Pipeline is an alternative teacher credentialing program based in Sacramento, California. Once accepted by the program, students attend a Teacher Recruitment Fair to interview with school districts in Northern California (Alameda County, Sacramento County and Contra Costa County are the major ones). If offered a teaching position by a school district, you are enrolled in Project Pipeline's District Intern program and can begin taking classes immediately.

I had a disappointing experience with Project Pipeline, and wanted to share that experience online with the hope of helping someone make a decision whether or not to choose the program. At the very least, I can offer more details about the program than the administrators are willing to divulge until after you've already made a commitment. To that end, please feel free to submit questions in the Comments section and I will do my best to answer them.

I learned about the program by attending an Information Session, and left feeling pretty excited and seriously considering applying. One of the points that Project Pipeline's recruiter kept making was that their tuition price included books, which is pretty rare. I jumped through all the hoops required for the application (a lot of tests, letters of recommendation, fees, etc.) and was accepted. I attended the Teacher Recruitment Fair and several districts were interested in me. I chose a small school district (which I highly recommend) and was excited about my teaching position.

Project Pipeline offers 4 courses over the course of the summer before you start teaching. What they won't tell you before you start, however, is that there is absolutely no flexibility when it comes to the hours and days you have to be in attendance. Monday through Friday, 5pm to 9pm, all summer. If you miss a day, you don't receive credit for the course.

Also sprung on us after classes started, was the news that books were no longer included in the price of tuition, and that we would have to return them after the class ended. This caused quite an uproar among our cohort, and a couple of students formally complained, and as a result we received one of the textbooks we used that summer, the most inane, in my opinion, The First Days of School, by Harry Wong, which sells for $20 on Amazon.

Another complaint I had about the summer courses was the quality of instruction we received. With the exception of one teacher, all of our teachers were poorly prepared and quite frankly, bad teachers. I've been through a lot of schooling and have dealt with the occasional boring professor, but this was just inexcusable. Methods commonly used included assigning each person a portion of the book to read, and reporting back to the class a summary of what you read. Sometimes we simply read the textbook in class!! Finally, I will never forget being handed Wikipedia articles on a particular topic as legitimate research ...

Project Pipeline is normally a two-year program, and for each month of those 2 years, they take tuition from your paycheck. Someone in my cohort found out about a way to finish the program in 1 year, called the Early Completion option, which the State of California requires Project Pipeline to offer, but of course they'll never voluntarily tell you about it. Basically, if you pass the Praxis series Teaching Foundations Exam (TFE) you can skip to the second year of the program and finish in one year. Several of us took and passed this test after letting our site coordinator know that we were planning to take this test. The site coordinator and Project Pipeline's senior recruiter both confirmed that if we passed the TFE, we would be able to complete the program in one year.

So after getting the results and letting Project Pipeline know that I passed, I get a response to the effect of "It's too late to tell us you passed the TFE, you were supposed to tell us before you started the program, and now you have to complete both years!" After my failed arguments of "You can't retroactively impose a deadline; your staff told me if I passed the TFE I could proceed with the Early Completion option" I decided to withdraw from the program.

I continued to teach, and had a great experience at the school, no thanks to Project Pipeline's "Supervisor" who was supposed to visit my classroom 8 times a year, but by January had only made it out once. For the record, instead of a district intern credential, I continued to teach on a Short Term Staff (STS) permit.

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Karl Machschefes 16 months ago

I started in a program that Elk Grove was running. The leaders of the program were teachers, who could not deal effectively with adults. In the end the program failed, it failed for me, I received very little experience or knowledge while I was there for over 6 months.

Then I came to Project Pipeline. While not all was good I was able to learn more my first week in my own classroom than in 6 months in Elk Grove. The real life teaching was invaluable in comparison to watching a teacher in the middle of the school year with a classroom with well behaved kids. Truthfully, like Elk Grove, some of the instructors with Project Pipeline were not good. Overall the experience was positive and I worked with a good group of teachers and most instructors were good.

I like the idea and the concept of an internship program. Project Pipeline worked for me and many others. However it does not work for all and just as regular university programs, it has its flaws.

Graduate 1999


irenova 18 months ago

I got kicked out of Fortune for stupid reasons:

1. I was late for the orientation.

2. After the first day of class, my teacher assumed that I was computer illiterate.

I have a credible defense for the first reason. As for the second reason, the professor thought I was computer illiterate because I asked for assistance, upon refreshing my mind, in emailing him the homework off of my wife's MacBook. He addressed the issue back to his headquarters making it sound like he spent hours helping me with technology, when the truth being that it only took 10 seconds out of his time and that his assistance just served me as a refresher. I got the stupid procedure down right away - not like I was prone to forget or that I was learning something new as he perceived it to be.

Here is my defense, arguments that I provided verbally and via email upon the unjust conclusions my professor made. Just to get your attention, we'll begin with my defense on reason #2:

Reason #2:

Dear Mr. __________

I just wanted to address one LAST issue. All I want is a fair hearing. You don't have to readmit me. I just want to be heard. I promise to make this my last email. I now realize that you think I'm a computer illiterate. The truth is that the current Bay Area school districts that I work for, MountDiabloUSD, PittsburgUSD, and MartinezUSD, use windows operating systems instead of Apple or Mac operating systems. Of course, I have used Apple systems on and off rececently. However, the last time I used an Apple system, consistently, was about 5 years ago in a 3-month long-term substitute assignment. I'm obviously a bit rusty, but I was picking a lot of it back up again yesterday. Apple just happens to be very different to windows. That's all. It was just a matter of remembering some differences and becoming practical again, that's all.

Another issue is that you were flat out wrong about my "iphone 6 Plus." You claimed that this medium was not optimal enough to access the coursework. The truth is that the "iPhone6 Plus" actually is a great medium, if not better, to use in accessing/navigating the wiki pages class-link and creating documents on Word, thus, a great medium for completing the class coursework. I managed to do some of the homework on "Word One Drive" yesterday on my "iphone6 Plus" yesterday and then I did some minor editing of the homework on my wife's MacBook. It was just a matter of hours becoming accustom to my wife's MacBook again. That's all. I reiterate, the wiki pages class link works just fine on my "iPhone 6 Plus."

I was able to access the "Classroom Management" sessions and power points on my "iPhone 6 Plus" yesterday. I have provided some images as proof that it is possible to do the coursework on my "iphone6 Plus." For the record, you clearly said that it was not possible and not a good medium. These images and the fact that I completed the homework on time indeed prove your conclusions to be very erring.

For some reason "Classroom Management Session 1" was not accessible/available to half the class on Tuesday. Therefore, the technical issue here was not with the "iPhone6 Plus" medium, but rather, with the wiki pages classroom link.

The reality is that you are very close minded Mr. Pepper. I don't think you understand that not all people live and/or work on Apple Mac systems 24-7. I was willing, however, to work with whatever mediums available for the next 6 weeks, but you didn't give me the opportunity. It was just a matter of hours upon refreshing my mind with the Apple operating system. You jumped too fast and too soon to your erring conclusions.

If you even bothered to read this email, I appreciate you giving me a fair hearing. All I ask is that you please read all my emails. I believe I sent you a total of 3 emails. That's all I ask of you Sir. You don't have to readmit me, but you must acknowledge your erring conclusions.

P.S. I did not like my wife's iPad. But I did like working, however, on my wife's MacBook a lot more. I was starting to get the hang of the Apple operating system again. All images in this email are from my "iphone6 Plus," thus, proving that the coursework can be accomplished easily on this medium contradicting your erring conclusions. Moreover, You witnessed me using the MacBook in class as well yesterday. Therefore, I am open minded to all mediums. Who is the erring close-minded individual here? And who is the true open-minded individual here? You are not practicing what you're preaching on the class pulpit Sir.

Thank you! God Bless!

Not done yet guys. I still want to share with you all my defense for reason #1. I will try to make this as brief as possible and just paraphrase some notions that I said and wrote.

Reason #1.

The orientation was being held at UC Davis this Monday at 4:30PM. I happened to be subbing that day, however, at Oakgrove Middle School in Concord, CA. Oakgrove Middle School dismissal time is 3:19PM. Moreover, Oakgrove Middle School has been very faithful and loving to me this year (one of the best school sites that have valued and treated me with love and respect) and they really needed my coverage this Monday badly. Of course, it's a gimme, I was going to be faithful back to Oakgrove.

The truth is that I'm fairly new to the Bay Area. I recently moved up here less than 2 years ago from the sunny side LA area. Yes, I am Dodgers and Laker fan - try not to hate me because I'm actually rueding for the Warriors in the finals this year, so please show me some love. At any rate, as soon as I got out from Oakgrove at 3:19PM, I had to go to the bathroom badly and when you got to go, expect to lose 10 minutes of travel time. Moreover, all sorts of people wanted to speak to me - out of all other days it had to be that day - Murphy's Law was becoming a thought, just a thought.

I hit the road at about 3:31PM. With traffic and all, I made it to UC Davis at about 4:40PM - Murphy's Law was now a juxtaposition. It was my first time visiting UC Davis ever. So I asked around, "Do you know where the Conference Building is?" You'd be surprised to know how many Mustangs are not even familiar with their own campus. I want to say 3 out of 4 Mustangs are not familiar with their own campus, but this is just an estimate. You don't have totake my word for it. Finally, finding a parking space in a $9.00 parking lot and the 3 out of 4 Mustangs statistic we just saw robbed me a good 25 minutes. This Monday, Murphy's Law had become a fulfilled prophesy, well, at least for me.

Fortune School of Education has a campus in Concord, CA by the way. It's about a 10-minute drive from Oakgrove Middle School. But no!!! I had to drive all the way to UC Davis to attend Fortune School of Education's teacher-intern orientation. Did I mention that I'm only familiar with the Concord, Pittsburg, and Martinez areas? Well, that's only because I work with those school districts. With soaring gas prices and a substitute-pay salary, I don't get out much. Therefore, I'm not familiar with the frontiers that lie out beyond Concord, Pittsburg, and Martinez. Did I also mention that driving in Southern California is so much more different than driving in Northern California? We'll just leave it as so, different, yes, very different (smile). For the record, I was on time Tuesday and Wednesday to class at Fortune this week. Did I mention that a couple of people were late on Wednesday? Regardless, with all the proof that I provided Fortune that defend my reasons and prove their conclusions to be erring, they still kicked me out of the program.

What a stupid way to run a program is what I have to say to Fortune!!! And hey, Mr. ______, if you happen to read this comment, the Common Core curriculum was implemented in LAUSD three years ago, you don't even know what you're talking about. Mr______, you jump to conclusions too fast and too soon and you're close minded.

Thank God Fortune kicked me out of this program. It's not even accredited nationally.


Lena 2 years ago

Hi, can anyone tell me alternative internship programs in the bay area that offer the same credential as FSE??? I have found BATTI but am having a hard time finding other schools. Please email me at stardustlands@gmail.com if you have any information/advice. Thank you!


Maggie 3 years ago

Word to the wise: when choosing an educational program, make sure it is regionally accredited. In California, that means it must be accredited by WASC. Fortune School of Education is NOT WASC accredited. It is a process that takes about 7 years to complete and, if they really cared, they would have done it already. They have been in business for 24 years and have STILL not made a diligent effort to earn that status.


bittert 3 years ago

Terrible program and full of dingbats. There was this one smiley idiot who symbolized the blatant misrepresentation of the entire program-smile at the rubes and feed them a cartload of bs-later you find out you the "techniques" for dealing with students in low income areas amount to squat. What a terrible waste of money and time!


chidimma 3 years ago

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Peppermint Patty 4 years ago

What does it say about Fortune school when a teacher for Fortune school thinks teachers that teach at other schools are better off?


Herinder again 4 years ago

Wait a second...Did I just read that Lisa Anderson and Jacqueline I-forget-her-last name, two Fortune flunkies, posted to this blog in support of the program? How pathetic. I'm guessing they were coerced into making those posts. Trust me, they have no love for the program--they love the paycheck (which isn't all that great; check out the Craigslist ads Fortune puts out for instructors), but how can they stand groveling to Oprah Winf...I mean, Margaret Fortune II, who walks around like her mommy and daddy made her the CEO of their school (oh wait). Way to go, Margaret Jr.! By the way, what's your background in education? Do you possess a teaching credential? Have you ever taught a class in your life? No? Just the mommy/daddy hook-up, huh? Gee, what a success story you are. Lisa and Jackie, it's a little beneath you to be answering critics on a blog. Is that what you thought you'd be doing when you signed up? Why don't you wrestle some dignity back for yourselves and quit selling phony promises to the well-intentioned.


Herinder Pegany 4 years ago

OK, so I'm not really Herinder Pegany--I just hope this ticks him off. When are the feds going to crack down on these people? It's so hard to find information about FSE, besides this helpful website, that is. Why, and how are they able to keep such a low profile? Indeed, they have a lot to hide, but I really wish students had an objective way to research the program before they sign on. Yes, I am a former FSE student, and I chose the program for the same reason you did--because it's affordable...er. Crunch the numbers and you'll see that the difference between FSE, and, say, National or Brandman isn't small potatoes, but it's probably less than you may think (or have been led to think by the cult that is Fortune). One thing you can look up is Fortune's accreditation. Whoops, they aren't accredited! Guess what? All those units you rack up will not transfer! They're worthless! I found a job while in this program, and I appreciate that, but Fortune should be an absolute final option. In fact, in the other programs aren't for you, you should probably look into another occupation, because if you go through Fortune, you'll hate yourself. Why? Because every negative thing you have read on this blog is true.


Jdavies 4 years ago

So what is a good program for me. I already have a Multiple subject credential but want to get an ed. special mild/mod. Any suggestion? I would like to find a lower cost alternative!


Arnold 4 years ago

What is the teacher pay scale for Fortunes charter schools?


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teachr4life 4 years ago from California

It might help others to know that this program is best utilized by people who have a background in teaching in the first place. I had many years of experience teaching others and was drawn to Project Pipeline because it was a faster, cheaper way to obtain a credential while being paid and getting health benefits.

It was a difficult three years of nights , weekends and an initial summer of day-long classes to get through this. It seems like an insurmountable task to do this, work as a teacher in special ed and working on your exit project all at once...don't ASK me how I got through this, but I did.

I met some incredible people in my classes who are dedicated, innovative, and fun educators. We helped each other through the hard moments, reminded ourselves that we were doing this for our passion...to be the best teachers we could be for the most deserving people on the planet: the kids!!!

Most of my instructors were excellent at giving us 100% effort in ensuring we learned the material, usually adding from their own personal experiences. Yes, we had occasional instructors who seemed preoccupied with something other than the classes, but we learned from them as well...what NOT to be like in our classes.

The people who received the most from this program were the ones who invested the most...sharing what worked for them, listening to others' dilemmas, doing the work without a negative attitude, helping all with a cheerful disposition and looking for the best in others.

As it turned out, I worked for 4 years as a special ed teacher in public schools before leaving because I could no longer do the job I wanted to do: teach students at their level and helping them to learn in alternative ways.

I now work in a non-profit, teaching adults with developmental delays and physical disabilities, using augmentative communication devices. I am a teacher for life. I am thankful to Project Pipeline for helping me achieve my life-long goal after years of raising children with disability. I look forward to many more adventures in education.


Jane 4 years ago

You can tell a lot about a company by their website. As it is, their site is hard to navigate and finding answers to simple questions takes forever. If it was more user-friendly I would have a greater sense of confidence in them and be more inclined to apply.


Luciana 4 years ago

This is a lot of bad things. I went to a recent information session and there was barely anyone there, so I wonder if this is not the program I should choose? I wish I could talk to someone who could tell me honestly what it is like. I think my friend may know someone at one of the Sac high schools I can talk to, but does anyone out there have any recommendations of who to talk to? I certainly don't want to do a program that is a joke, but it is the cheapest one available.


Martine 4 years ago

This organization is not a good place to get your credential. I work for them as a mentor this year and did not know a lot about them. Now what I know is that they are unorganized, unprofessional, and that the teacher I work with is not happy with the program they are in. My teacher is learning things that do NOT help in the actual classroom. What a shame.


Fed up 5 years ago

Politics have ruined education. People, get your politics out of my education! These comments are ridiculous and anybody who spends their time reading them is foolish. Call me foolish because I wasted my time. I hope I can save the next person from wasting their time reading them. Anyone with a assess to computer can now pretend they are legitimate, hard-cracking news reporters. I'm telling you this page has the California Teacher's Association union propaganda written all over it. Blahk...it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. The bottom line is, whether you like it or not, Margaret Fortune's schools are getting results. The rest of you get with it or get left behind with the rest of the public school system. The kids are what matters, not your politics. That goes for all you parent, teachers, want-to-be teachers, concerned citizens, and Joe Schmoe with another opinion. Deal with the sad truth people, our schools are failing. We can not afford, literally and figuratively, to have things stay status quo. Margaret is shaking it up and I can appreciate that.


Cameron S. 5 years ago

While we're talking about salaries and background checks of people running teacher credential programs in California, it would be interesting to know the salaries and backgrounds of the presidents or School of Education chairs at National University, University of Phoenix, Teach for America, Chapman University (now known as Brandman University at their university college locations) and at other alternative teacher credential programs in California, like Project Impact Teacher Intern Program and LAUSD's District Intern Program. We should list their names, salaries and staff backgrounds too. I have no idea if Chapman University, in its history, has ever had other family members working for the organization or take over the organization. I know that Art Academy University of San Francisco, which awards BAs and masters degrees and costs $50K to attend for some of their programs, is run by the daughter of the university's founder. A non educational firm in Northern California, Raley's, was once run by a family member of the founder. Family owned and operated is not exactly a new concept. But, I do wonder if such organizations get such scrutiny via blogs with people quoting all the staff's salaries and background without saying how they acquired such "information" if the information is true.


Pat 5 years ago

Correction to my post regarding Libby's comments - Karen *Bass* is no longer Assembly speaker.


Pat 5 years ago

Libby, while I'm no fan of Margaret Fortune, what's wrong with the blog article that you posted to this thread? Arnold is no longer the governor of California. Karen Massy is no longer the Assembly speaker. Margaret no longer works for the governor's office. Margaret has never been married and doesn't have any children. Rex Fortune III is her brother, not her son, who does not work for Fortune School according to the Fortune School website's staff directory and hasn't been there during the past few years that I've had dealings with Fortune School. Dr. Rex Fortune, a PhD in education from Stanford University, is her father who founded the company. Here in Sacramento, he was a successful superintendent of Center Unified School District, an Assistant Superintendent of Schools for the State of California, a former school principal, a California school teacher, a college instructor in education and a parent. I do have a lot of respect for him and do feel that he does have a lot of knowledge to share with a new administrator or a new school teacher whose never taught before or is new to the field. How can a new teacher with little or no experience, without Dr. Fortune's education and experience at the K-12 and college level, claim to know how to teach better than he does? I do not have the same high regard for his daughter Margaret. While I appreciate that, according to local Sacramento newspapers, she graduated from Harvard, she does not have an education degree, has never held a teaching position and apparently does not desire to possess a California teacher credential. Yet, unlike her dad, she has been highly controversial and outspoken regarding California public schooling and teaching while holding high post that affects teachers' careers when she's never taught before nor has been trained how to to teach. Regarding the blogger's personal comments about the Fortune family, the blog author posted at the end of the article that he/she was not familiar with the Fortune family for which he/she wrote about, including not knowing Margaret's marital status and family relationships. At the time that the blog was written, the Fortunes had already retired from their posts from Fortune School they founded and ran for 20 years, where more than 1,000 teachers have earned their credentials, and Margaret was already then the CEO of Fortune School as the blogger mentioned. But, Margaret is not married to Dr. Fortune, her father, and I'm pretty sure that they do not live in the same households. And, many of the blogger's other comments about the Fortunes were made in confusion, were incorrect and did not give respect to Dr. Rex Fortune's contributions to the California educational community. The blogger's issues were with Margaret, not the rest of the family; thus, his/her blog should have concentrated on Margaret and getting the facts straight regarding her.


Betsy 5 years ago

Libby -- your resources are seriously out of date.


Libby 5 years ago

Arnold's Henchwoman Defends Race to the Top, CA Reforms - And Padding Her Own Pockets!

A few days ago, the Mercury News (CA) printed a story, "Governor's ties to charter schools driving Race to the Top goals?" that outlined how the various pro-charter reformers, including Eli Broad and his pals at the NewSchools Venture Fund, had aided and influenced the Governator's education agenda. Well, the story certainly infuriated Margaret Fortune, whom Arnold appointed as his director of the Governor's Initiative to Turn Around Failing Schools back in 2008 (with a cushy $100,000 salary). Fortune responded to the Mercury's previous article about Arnold's reform agenda with this opinion piece, "Bass sells out kids in favor of teacher unions," which bashes the much more reasonable legislation proposed by Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, legislation the Governator has promised to terminate if it reaches his desk. Fortune and her boss, the Milton Friedman-loving, Ronald Reagan-admiring Governor, strongly prefer the bill of Gloria Romero, the same woman who has pushed uber-choice proposals, charter school legislation, and the "trigger provision" that would greatly help charter school chains in their hostile takeover of public education. Fortune's piece begins like this:

Assembly Speaker Karen Bass' feet are so firmly planted on the wrong side of school reform that it makes me wonder what on earth could make the first black woman leader of the California Assembly turn a blind eye to the plight of minority children in public schools. The sad answer: Her Democratic caucus' loyalty to unions.

The state of public education could not be any more desperate for black children. I, too, am a black woman, and I sit on the California State University board of trustees with Karen Bass. We know that 81 percent of California's black seniors graduate high school ineligible to apply to a state college, and yet Karen Bass finds herself stuck leading a chorus of cynics deriding President Barack Obama's $4.3 billion Race to the Top education reform challenge.

While it's hardly surprising that one of Arnold's appointees (a "Democrat," nonetheless) opposes anyone favoring (or listening to) the unions, what really caught my attention was Fortune's other activities, which are mentioned at the bottom of her essay:

MARGARET FORTUNE is a member of the California State University board of trustees and president of Fortune School of Education, a nonprofit charter school operator. She wrote this article for the Mercury News.

Hardly surprising to see the pro-charter crowd coming out in favor of Duncan/Obama's Race to Nowhere. Mrs. Fortune doesn't just work for CSU and Fortune School of Education (formerly known as Project Pipeline) - she also was the Superintendent of Kevin Johnson's St. HOPE Public Schools (and also appeared at the 2005 NSVF summit - the connections are endless!).

Oh, but here's where Mrs. Fortune really lives up to her family's surname: in addition to working for the Terminator (of public schools), Margaret other job as a "program director" and President/CEO for Project Pipeline, a non-profit alternative licensing program founded by her husband. She pulled in 75k for a measly 18 hours of work per week for her advice, and really started raking in the dough once she was promoted to bosslady in June of '08($12,500 for her work as President/CEO between 6/1/08 and 7/30/08 - not too shabby, eh?). Rex Fortune, her husband and the Executive Director, made a cushy $129,726 in the same year; her son, Rex Fortune III is also a "coordinator" for the non-profit, pulling in a steady 75k (all info pulled from their most recent 990 tax forms). These figures have steadily climbed over the past few years.

A cool 100k from the Governator and a family income around $300,000 from their non-profit alternative track licensing program, which is sure to benefit from the rapid expansion of charter schools. NO WONDER this woman loves Race to the Top and Romero's pro-charter/pro-choice bill! Cha-ching!


MG 5 years ago

I went through Project Pipeline back in 2003-05, and from the looks of it here, only the name of the institution has changed and not much else.

I'll spare you my rants of the lack of communication regarding credits, expectations, etc. and simply focus on the fact that many, if not just about all, of my instructors modeled poor teaching strategies and what not to do in the classroom. More often than not, as a cohort we were separated into groups, assigned a section to "summarize and report on," and then told to take notes on the other groups' presentations. We learned early on that this was a way for the instructors (some even held doctorates) to slack on their second job of being a Pipeline instructor and just have us do their work instead. When it came to classroom discussions about culture and ethnicity in any course, several instructors not only showed their biases, but also made the atmosphere very uncomfortable for those of European descent so as to discourage any challenging questions. I had never experienced so much prejudice, stereotyping, and racial bias in my life. I hated those classes and I can thank Dale Allender, PhD for that.

The only positive notes I can make are: 1) I was able to teach full-time while earning my credential, and 2) The Alameda campus and instructors were FAR better than those at Pittsburg Adult Education Center, so there were some educators who cared enough to pass on good teaching methods to future teachers.

Good luck to those who choose this path, and remember, unfortunately, no teacher credentialing program is really all that great, but if you're passionate about the profession, you'll stick with it anyway.


Henry 5 years ago

Don't set yourself up to fail -- choose a program that is legit! How can you expect them to help you develop as a teacher when all they are concerned about are their charter schools? They are sure to leave you in the dust while they struggle to make their charters a priority. Some of the staff truly do care about helping you, but the "higher ups" couldn't care less.


Skyler 5 years ago

Here's a question: Given how crappy the public school system is, would you consider sending your child to one of their new charter schools? or would you stick it out with the traditional public school?


Bradley 5 years ago

Wow this is crazy! How can teachers learn all together in the same room if they are in different programs? I am a grad of Pipeline, and we had our Sped classes separate from the gen ed. I can't imagine how they are learning everything if they are all together. Thank goodness I am done! What I had wasn't so great but for the most part we learned what we needed to.


Judith 5 years ago

FSE is falling and falling fast. Someone needs to contact CCTC, mixing SPCD and General Ed is against the law. Talk to any traditional reputable credential program and they will tell you that these two programs are completely different. If you are in the pre-service program now, request a refund...or report FSE to CCTC. I can also assure you that your pre-service instructor does not have the qualifications to teach all of these credential courses. You as a student are paying a first class tuition, but getting less than a coach class instruction.


Frankie 5 years ago

Watch out everyone. News is that the newest pre-service is, I know it is hard to believe, even more of a mess than ever before! Special ed, general ed AND multiple subject are ALL TOGETHER with no plan to separate them out! I guess at Fortune you use the same textbooks and listen to the same lectures and do the same assignments no matter what type of credential you are trying to get. I have never heard of anything so ludicrous!!


hmmm...x2 5 years ago

Judith,

I am a Special Education district intern and I was told that up until last year or so that Special Education was a growing field. However, because of the direction the economy went, there are many fully credentialed multiple subject and administrators that are filling up the openings. They weren't lying. I was already seeing this first hand at my district. I was lucky, I was already working for my district and had an "in." I knew going in, based on what the lady at the recruitment session said, that it was not the easiest economy to find jobs in. I think everyone needs to approach any industry with this same mindset. Being humble and not entitled are great starts. Again, based on my family situation, I would not survive without Fortune. I have fully enjoyed my teachers. The only complaint I have is that I have to call several times to in order to get in touch with some of the staff.


Judith 5 years ago

I came to Project Pipeline, apparently now known as Fortune School of Education, with two teaching credentials and prior teaching experience. But it was almost impossible for anyone older than 25 to get hired to a tenure-track job, and I allowed myself to be convinced that special ed. was the growing subspecialty in the education biz.

Someone must make a fortune to keep this completely deficient program in operation, and those "someones" are the Fortune family.

The program does nothing to prepare would-be California teachers to secure or KEEP a teaching job, all the while taking money from the aspirant's paycheck (meager as it is, after the unions take their due as well).

California doesn't need to "recruit" teachers; there are too many of us as it is, and more (all pink-slipped) are swelling the ranks every day.

Avoid programs like this. If you think you want to join the ranks of the semi-employed, do it under the aegis of REAL higher education.


Hmmm.... 5 years ago

As far as I know, Fortune is a non-profit, not a corporation. I have thoroughly enjoyed my classes and cohort at Fortune. I know I wouldn't have survived without Fortune. It’s too bad others are not of the same opinion. However, based on what I know of the unions (hello, I work for one...and they take my dues every month against my will...isn't that extortion??), they are nothing but bullies, liars, and cheats. It sounds like they have taken to the internet blogs…and here is the result. I plan on trying to get a job at a charter. I think I will actually get to help children succeed and not just be a cog in the corrupt school system. Shame on you CTA.


Maribella 5 years ago

Wow Toby you dont need to personally attack the woman! I don't think Fortune as a company does a good job, I agree with those who say that getting their credential through Fortune is like buying a lemon at the used car lot. But don't slam the CEO, she is not the whole problem. Who has had a good encounter with Herrinder pegany?


Toby 5 years ago

Margaret Fortune has been poverty pimping since the early pleistocene era, and is principally known for bringing the near criminal, if not criminal in fact, though unprosecuted, ‘thing’ that is the St. Hope organization, including its charter schools, which operate in the red, hire unqualified teachers, lay them off due to budgetary malfeasance and incompetence, and go through more senior staff, including principals, than a McDonald’s – in fact, McDonald’s is probably a safer bet. It was a pleasure to see Fortune stampede out of last week’s SCUSD meeting after being denied the board’s sanction for her charters, which no doubt will employ the same antiunion antiteacher misuses of public funds, with virtually no oversight whatsoever, as she skims her pound of flesh off the top, and places a petunia on the dung heap of the schools she heads… She’s as corrupt as KJ and Michelle Rhee and that whole St. Hope tribe of thieves, and I hope justice awaits her as this very public charade of hers continues… More to come, I’m sure


Shelloe 5 years ago

Don't go to Fortune. They don't know what they are doing. The only reason you should go is if you already know how to be a good teacher and just need the cheapest way to get your credential. You will learn nothing new and waste your time most of the time. I have been reading about their charter school efforts. It is easy to raise scores when you dismiss the students who don't behave and send them back to the public school.


Toby 5 years ago

I went through Fortune and even though I don't think they were doing a great job, once I was in I couldn't get out easliy. Without being in a credential program I would not have been able to keep my job. Sometimes the shoes you are wearing are cheap and falling apart, but you can't do anything about it until you get home and can throw them in the trash.


TK 5 years ago

@Jansen: Then why are you still there?


Jansen 5 years ago

Fortune is not doing a good job. We spend most of our time talking and being talked at but it seems to be mostly opinions and very little research based learning. I already have an advanced degree and so I know what I am receiving is not qualified instruction.


klenox 5 years ago

A comment above was lifted verbatim from my comments on the Sac Bee. You know who you are. No fair.

Evidently the nepotism angle goes beyond just providing a job for the family members. It's also about keeping the family business going. Because of cuts to education there have been layoffs of teachers. This makes it hard for interns like those from Project Pipeline/Fortune School of Education to get jobs. The charter proposal would provide positions for the interns in their program, keeping the program alive. It's a win-win for the family business. Please call Assemblymember Brownley's office 916-319-2041 and tell her you want her to revive AB572. The law, if signed by the governor, would make conflicts of interest like this illegal.


Walt 5 years ago

It's called nepotism, Torpedoman. Nepotism at its finest. You put that together with an "Oprah complex" and this is what you get.


Torpedoman 5 years ago

I fail to understand how a Bachelor's degree in Poli Sci, and a Master's from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government gives her any credibility or expertise in the field of education. She has no experience with the day to day dealings with those she purports to want to help. Without some minimum level of classroom experience, she is operating strictly on theory and statistics, with no practical knowledge of the human factor. This is how she runs her current Fortune School of Ed. No experience. That is why they have gone from hero to zero with her in charge. M. Fortune has also managed several other education entities that have closed down. 2000-2003 Project Pipeline Teacher Recruitment Center, they closed their doors under M. Fortunes leadership. She was the superintendent of St. HOPE from 2006-2007, don’t ask me how she became a superintendent of a school without having a teaching or an admin credential, oh, I remember it was because she was having a relationship with K.J. As we know K.J. Owns St. HOPE. Sac High is in real finical trouble and it is all due to M. Fortune. Now she is currently running FSE. Again the company went from hero to zero under this self proclaimed "education reform guru". She does not have my support to open any charter school.


5 years ago

I have not formed an option yet on this proposal. But, I am really not sure what folks keep using the term "segregated schools." It kind of seems really ignorant and misleading to do so. By LAW, you cannot restrict enrollment to ANY public school based on race, religion, etc. Sounds like the unions are really trying to push their agenda. In fact, it is so misleading, I am leading to support Fortune just out of default. Although, doing so would be just as ignorant. But, you get the point.


Race-baiter 5 years ago

A proposal for 10 segregated schools in San Bernardino county and another 10 for Sacramento County. Mom and Dad Fortune will sit on the board of directors and daughter Margaret will be the CEO. A conflict of interest like that doesn't bode well for accountability. And none of the board members will be elected by the public, which means no accountability to taxpayers and voters. Wake up people! This is just a way to get a hold of taxpayers' dollars with few questions asked. Meanwhile the proposal cites a student handbook that says kids who make less than Bs will be held back. How many parents will want to hold their kids back for receiving a C? That is a guaranteed way to raise test scores, by weeding out the average and below average kids. The school won't be bridging the achievement gap it will just be leaving that job to the local districts. Sacramento City Unified has embarked on a community schools initiative that will help all children, not just those who can drive their kids to a charter school. This proposal would just siphon off high performing kids along with their ADA without doing anything to help the kids who need it most.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/20/3337346/charter-s...


Dennis 5 years ago

Although I am not a fan of the drive for the seemingly "Black Students Only" idea, the schools will actually be open to students of all ethnicities. Anyone BUT the black students will definitely be the minority, but they will still have that option.


Star 5 years ago

This comment on Sacbee really backs Edgers post. FSE is all about making money: Margaret Fortune is a BIGOT, why is it that she wants to help only Afracian American students, why not other ethnic groups???

If Margaret Fortune wants to open a chain of charters in Sacramento County, she should at least have to prove that there is something new about her approach. Her petition (which may have been changed now) stated that these charters would be modeled on St. HOPE's PS7. If that is the case, and she is just going to do more PS7 schools, she is not offering something that is not currently present. Mr. Gordon should read charter school law a little more closely. This isn't about being for or against charter schools. Those who run charter schools make money, regardless of the results. I think it is important to remember there is a profit motive in all of this.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/20/3337346/charter-s...


Shauntell 5 years ago

@Edger: I see. Thank you!


Edger 5 years ago

@Shauntell- I have to keep my source anonymous, so that this person’s job is not jeopardized.


Shauntell 5 years ago

@Edgar: I totally have respect for your opinion, but you cannot just say "Payroll info is legitimate info" for an answer. Do you do their paychecks or something? Where did these numbers come from that allowed you to come to this conclusion? I would like to hear a real answer instead of a cop-out.


EDGER 5 years ago

Payroll info is legitimate info. Like I said FSC will do whatever it takes to keep more money in there own pockets. Keep in mind, they don't edumcate teachers, they rob interns...


Shauntell 5 years ago

Edgar: Just curious - where are you getting the payroll data and other info from? Are you making it up or is it from a legitimate source?


Edgar 5 years ago

Don’t feel sorry for the FSE employees. Here are some insights to why FSE is sinking;

The founders of FSE retired two years ago.

The new CEO is a Fortune kid that collects 200K salary from FSE, but has no public school teaching exp.

Director of Operations earns a 85K salary and ONLY HAS A H.S. Diploma.

All of their Coordinators do not have any public school teaching exp and earn 75k+ or more.

So the next time you pay tuition, keep in mind, you are not investing in your education, instead you are paying the overqualified FSE staff. Ever wonder why they combined your regular ed program with special ed? Now you know why…KEEP MORE MONEY in their own pockets…

SHAZAM, let’s talk about this after class and call CTC and get FSE’s accreditation revoked.


Grace 5 years ago

Judith B.

Carmichael, CA

4/22/2010 I came to Project Pipeline, apparently now known as Fortune School of Education, with two teaching credentials and prior teaching experience. But it was almost impossible for anyone older than 25 to get hired to a tenure-track job, and I allowed myself to be convinced that special ed. was the growing subspecialty in the education biz.

Someone must make a fortune to keep this completely deficient program in operation, and those "someones" are the Fortune family.

The program does nothing to prepare would-be California teachers to secure or KEEP a teaching job, all the while taking money from the aspirant's paycheck (meager as it is, after the unions take their due as well).

California doesn't need to "recruit" teachers; there are too many of us as it is, and more (all pink-slipped) are swelling the ranks every day.

Avoid programs like this. If you think you want to join the ranks of the semi-employed, do it under the aegis of REAL higher education.


Woodrow 5 years ago

I kinda feel bad for some of the people that work there -- SOME, not all. I mean, without being a legit program (NOT WASC accredited), do you ever think that the GOOD ones feel like they are stuck on a sinking ship? If the economy was better, I think they would get the hell out of there!


Shazam 5 years ago

I just know that Fortune school has not been a very good experience for me. I know that for some people it has been ok but I just was looking for something extremely meaningful. At this point I have not been so impressed in Sacramento, and now it appears that the Special Ed folks will be joined with the single subject folks, and while collaboration is important I just dont see how we can be getting everything we need to know to be successful if we are joined together all the time. I am concerned.


Local School Rep 5 years ago

I came across these blogs and I am a Principal w/a local school district in Contra Costa County. Our District use to hire at least 35-50 interns from Pipeline each year. This year we hired just two. Pipeline used have the edge on the intern market, but with new leadership and turning out poor quality interns(teachers), our school district is not hiring Pipeline students at all. I have seven former Pipeline students who have gone thru the program and every single teacher that works for me will not recommend this program to anyone. All of teachers have complained that they have very poor instructors, actually one of the Fortune’s kids teaches Credential courses and this person only has a BA degree in marketing, no Credentials at all. The other Fortune kid is the NEW CEO and this person has no Credentials at all or never taught public/private school. How can you produce quality educators when your instructors don’t have a Credential or never have taught in a public school? How can you run an Intern program or open charter schools when your CEO has never taught or lacks a public school credentials? How can you close the achievement gap when your entire motive is to make money??? In all reality we need to call our local government and stop state funding to this intern program.


Star 5 years ago

The reality is that the new Fortune is not doing so well. What kind of sound educational institution changes the entire class schedule 1 month before the classes start? Yes, goal is to help kids achieve, but they don't help their teachers be successful!


Former employee of FSE 5 years ago

Fortune school of ed is led by the bigest bigot in Sac County. Trust me, FSE has no intention to save our children. I know this from exp and I am black! FSE is a business and when money hungry people or wana be polticians get behind education, it is not to save our kids.


6 years ago

Sorry Edgar, but your comment doesn't even make sense. Charter schools are public schools. As far as I know public schools, or ANY school for that matter, can't restrict student enrollment based on race - it is illegal. I doubt Fortune will be doing so. Based on what I have read and heard, Fortune is trying to close the achievement gap for those individuals who are, statistically, the one of the lowest achieving populations. Since when did helping a child become racism? Please, do us all a favor and leave your bigoted comments to yourself. I have had nothing but positive experiences with Fortune. Although some of their staff can be a little harsh and not very tactful. I think the academic staff to student communication has much to be improved.


Edgar 6 years ago

I have enjoyed most of these comments. Did you hear that now fortune is going to open up charter schools in sacramento?! Can't believe they think they know how to change things for students of color. Wait, I spoke wrong, not for students of color, ONLY for black students. Racism is alive and well folks.


Courtney 6 years ago

Laughing out loud at all these comments. BE FOREWARNED- fortune school i.e. project pipeline is the worst program around. I work in Fremont and they have stopped hiring these interns cause they are not prepared or ready to be teachers. WATCH OUT!


Legal Lucy 6 years ago

Re: Court Ruling that Interns are no longer considered "Highly Qualified"

Actually, this was a FEDERAL ruling, not a state ruling. Currently, this does NOT apply to California and is not expected to include California in the near future. If you want more information, I recommend contacting the California Department of Education.


Rebecca 6 years ago

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3/1/2010 I completed my credential in 2008. This is the biggest piece of crap program ever. Started teaching in Fall of 06 and still am teaching. I did NOT LEARN ANYTHING from this piece of crap program.

The professors were ok- some good, some bad, but the program was horribly run.

It took 4 attempts to get a correct scantron. They don't know their head from their arse.

I would NEVER EVER EVER recommend Pipeline to ANYONE!

Fremont, CA


Claudia 6 years ago

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Carmichael, CA

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MH 6 years ago

Hey Margaret Fortune (CEO of Fortune School of ED)Here is your chance to get your name in the limelight. That fame and fortune you so desire in the name of our public school system and our poor kids. We all know that you are a fraud and a fake! Nothing but a slimy politician, pleas do all of us a favor and replace Ms. Rhee.

D.C. schools chancellor steps downBy Sally Holland, CNN

October 13, 2010 -- Updated 1707 GMT (0107 HKT)

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

D.C. Public Schools chief resigns, says it was a mutual decision with new mayor

Michelle Rhee said she's enjoyed every minute of her term

Duncan called Rhee a leader in school reform

Washington (CNN) -- The chancellor of the District of Columbia's Public Schools announced she was stepping down Wednesday, after three-and-a-half years as head of the troubled school system.

"The best way to keep the reforms going is for this reformer to step aside," Michelle Rhee said in announcing her resignation.

Her time in office included successes in the form of higher test scores for D.C. students and a win in the second round of Race to the Top, a federal education program that provides funds to states that have innovative plans in education.

However, Rhee also frustrated the school system's teachers with layoffs for those who didn't meet new evaluation criteria. Both local and national teacher unions fought her changes.

"All across the country now because of Chancellor Rhee and her team, from the White House to documentaries, people are touting D.C. as a model for how to attack bureaucracy and get results in an urban school system," outgoing D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty said.

The school system in the nation's capital is one focus of the documentary "Waiting for Superman," which also features Rhee as a key voice in advocating for school reform.

Rhee was Fenty's choice to run the school system when he took office. At Wednesday's news conference, the outgoing chancellor described her departure as a "mutual decision" between herself and incoming Mayor Vincent Gray.

"I've put my blood, sweat and tears into the children of the District of Columbia for the last three and a half years and I have completely enjoyed every minute of it," Rhee said.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan praised Rhee as a leader of change.

"Michelle Rhee has been a pivotal leader in the school reform movement and we expect she will continue to be a force for change wherever she goes," he said in a written statement.

Current D.C. Public Schools Deputy Chancellor Kaya Henderson will take over as the interim chancellor at the end of the month.

Rhee said she plans to take some time off and spend more time in Sacramento, California. She is engaged to Sacramento mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson.


Catherine 6 years ago

Wow that is crazy, that article is proof that fortune school and other intern programs are not the way to go.


Stacy 6 years ago

Court rejects counting interns as qualified teachers for 'No Child' law

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/27/3061504/court-rej...

Please read this article especially if you are thinking about applying to "non accredited" teaching internship programs like Fortune School of Ed. Without a full teaching credential, interns will not be hired by school districts.


Daniel 6 years ago

Project Pipeline was not so bad for me, I did not need a lot of observation to help me get better as a teacher. And since I had been teaching for so long before, it did not matter for me that I did not get a lot out of the coursework,. A lot of other programs, like Alliant provide so much more. I understand that each intern program gets to decide how much they observe and the classes they provide, but PP is just so limited it is like they are trying to squeeze you for all the money they can and not give you any value, so they can make a lot of money. I hardly had any classes that I thought were valuable, half the time the instructors were late and unorganized. So often we repeated curriculum and even used the same textbook again! It was like one instructor did not know what the others taught. PP is a great option only if you dont truly need a lot of help to be a good teacher. My friend is currently in his second year and as I listen to him talk, nothing has changed. In some cases it seems instructors have gotten even worse!


Recent info session attendee 6 years ago

I recently attended an information session and the presenter was clear, concise and very passionate about the work Fortune School is doing to close the achievement gap. Sorry to hear that some of your experiences were positive but from what I've heard so far, I'm submitting my application for the Pre-service program because I really do the share the vision of Fortune School. Best of luck to all of you.


Bertie 6 years ago

Fortune school is definitely not for everyone Tim. I think Sonja's point is that they make promises that they don't keep. People are overall so bad at getting back to you! I missed class one weekend last year, and emailed THREE people about it to make sure it would not affect my ability to get my credential, only one emailed back, so I trusted it, and now I am being told that I made the wrong choice to miss class! I may have to go on an extension. The big boss is so high on herself with all her charter schools I just wish she would pay some attention to the credential program.


Tim 6 years ago

So, let me get this straight, Sonja:

Although Pipeline tried to establish a deduction plan with your district, your school did not accept the plan, you did not pay your tuition, and it is Pipeline's fault? I am not one to advocate on their behalf, but seriously??? Of course you are going to be in debt if you do not pay your tuition! You signed a form that showed exactly how much tuition was and when it would be due, did you not? I believe it even has a line in there that says you will agree to pay on your own until deductions are set up with the district. It had that when I signed mine. Services aren't free in this life, honey. It is time to grow up.


Sonja 6 years ago

This place is so unreasonable. They say that you will graduate debt free but you don't because they could not make an agreement with my school to take payments out of my paycheck like they said and so I had to pay it, so now I have debt! The recruitment presenter lied.


Cathy 6 years ago

I would have to somewhat disagree. Every time I need something from the front office, the Admin Assistant always welcomes me with a smile and an energetic greeting. I have never had an issue with her and her friendly nature always makes me smile. Also, I always get excellent service from the credential/transcript area. When I have a question about my credential, it is answered. When I need transcripts, they are processed. Every time I have called or e-mailed, it is returned within 24 hours. I cannot speak to everyone that works in the main office, but those who I have dealt with regularly have been awesome!


Horace 6 years ago

Couldn't agree more about ineptitude of PP or FS or whatever they want to call themselves now. The main office is a bunch of losers who are NOT professionals, dont even have degrees and are admitting people for a grad program? Credibility is a problem here.


Joe 6 years ago

Oh ya I agree it's lousy. Not surprised the admission person does not have a degree, I met mostly inept people through project pipeline. I had a coordinator who never got back to me about anything. One time I missed class in Concord and told her I was not going to be in town, but then when it came down to it I got busted because she never told anyone she gave me permission. Ridiculous organization. Not a good place to get your credential.


Graduate 6 years ago

I am reading all these other students making comments about being told that we would have to find our own jobs, well then why is Pipeline misleading future prospective students by placing job ads on Craiglist??? SEE BELOW! IS THIS NOT MISLEADING? WHY WOULD YOU PLACE AN AD IN THE JOB SECTION, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A JOB TO OFFER???? AGAIN, BAIT AND SWITCH....Please don't make the same mistake I made, go thru a "traditional" credential program and by no means Pipleine is a cheap route. Do your homework. You will send more than 14K for a credential that has no college unit value and sure you can earn a MA from UOP, but you are paying 1K per unit and your entire MA is worth 10 semester units. Try getting a pay raise thru your school district with having 10 units beyond a BA. Districts pay teachers based on number of "college" units completed beyond a BA and if you go thru Pipeline and take the Masters courses thru UOP, you will only end up with 10 semester college credits for a whopping cost of $30thousand. Project IMPACT offers the same credential along w/MA from an accredited college for 15K...That is why Pipeline is now called the "Fortune" school. The Fortunes are making a Fortune thru our poor public school teachers. Their new motto should be "TEACH, LEARN and GET BURNED"!!!!

SEE THE AD BELOW....

Get paid to teach while earning your credential (Sacramento and surrounding counties)

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POTENTIAL NEW TEACHERS – Get paid to teach while taking coursework to earn your credential!

To find out how to earn a California Teaching Credential through a paid teaching internship in Sacramento and East Bay public schools, while taking coursework, please attend one of our FREE information sessions!

We are currently looking for individuals interested in teaching middle / high school (single subject) or Special Education (mild to moderate) as District Interns, while taking coursework to earn their credential. Interested individuals MUST have their Bachelor’s Degree, in addition to other application requirements.

Join us at a FREE information session on May 6, May 20, or May 26 from 6pm to 7pm in the evening. Each information session will be hosted at our Sacramento administrative offices at 2035 Hurley Way, Suite 200, Sacramento 95825. To RSVP for a free information session, please call (916) 924-8633 or email us at stucker@fortuneschool.us.

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Tyler (again) 6 years ago

Wow! By the looks of the timing of all these new posts singing the praises of the Fortune School of Education, they must have added as a graduation requirement, that you make a posting here telling the world what a great program they have.

No post - no credential?

So Project Pipeline is now the Fortune School of Education. Here's my take on that: Rex and Margaret decide to retire, then hand the school over to their daughter - if that's not nepotism, I don't know what is. And if you ask me, that cries loudly of what sort of program it is. LOUSY! LOUSY! LOUSY!

But, as I said before, if all you need is the credential and NO COLLEGE CREDIT for your time or money (I won't say work, because quite frankly, we didn't have to do any work to speak of), then go with the Fortune School of Education.

I enrolled in another program just BEFORE I finished Pipeline, because I knew that by all rights, I should not have received a credential based on my experience.

And yes, Rebecca, I do believe that we were in the same class, but I don't want to use my real name, because the Fortune family seems to be well connected in Sacramento (how else could this travesty of a program be allowed to continue to operate?) and, well call me paranoid if you like, but I just don't want to have my criticism of the Fortunes come back to bite me in the butt. And one of the few things that I have come to learn is that the world of education is very, very political, and it seems spiteful!


Emma 6 years ago

Fortune school recruiters are amazing. It feels so good to know that they are constantly out there building relationships, on the road going to district offices to make sure that Fortune School candidates are offered opportunities to interview. Resumes are sent out almost every day for openings in public and charter schools! Times are tough, and depending on what subject you teach there may not be many job openings for you. Fortune School puts you in the best possible position to succeed and be the one that gets that job.


Jim W. 6 years ago

One of my favorite parts of the Fortune School of Education program is that it is designed designed to allow a student to work as a paid student teacher while earning his/her credential. With traditional programs, students attend courses, dabble a little with student teaching, graduate, and THEN find a full time teaching position. At Fortune School, students are in the classroom as teachers of record from the get-go. They have their own class, salary, and benefits and are able to make a difference from day one!


K. Lock 6 years ago

Support is the most important thing as a first year teacher. You always want to feel like you have someone by your side. Fortune school is there for you to make sure you can get through it successfully! Instructors, supervisors, staff and all the other teachers in the cohort provide that integral system of support. You never feel alone because you know there is always someone there to lean on. Everyone in this support system is here for the same thing, to make sure that all our students can achieve greatness. It could not be done without Fortune School.


J.H. 6 years ago

One of the best parts of Fortune School is the ECO program. It is an accomplishment to be able to take and pass the TFE, and meet the other requirements including successfully completing all four TPAs all within one year while teaching full time. It is rigorous and not for everyone, but perfect for the teacher who is above and beyond where a first year intern typically is in their growth. Thankfully Fortune School is extremely supportive during the ECO program. They provide a highly skilled ECO coordinator dedicated to TPA assistance and additional layers of program support such as the Coordinator of Support, on-site mentors, and collaborative relationship with school site administrators.


Kelly H. 6 years ago

What I love about Fortune School of Education is that it creates an environment for new teachers to benefit from each other. Cohorts meet in classes regularly and get to bounce the good and bad from their day off others in the same situation. It is hard to get through your first year of teaching, and Fortune School provides just the right balance of support from field supervisors, mentors, coordinators, instructors and other teachers to make it a success!


O. Garcia 6 years ago

Fortune School of Education interns understand the level of dedication and sacrifice that it takes to be a California school teacher in the most difficult of settings. More so than other careers, FSE students give up a significant amount of personal time to attend courses, meet with mentors, and discuss classroom strategies with their peers. They are dedicated to fulfilling the role of not only a teacher in a classroom, but also that of a parental-figure and counselor. It can definitely be a difficult career path and one that not everyone is cut out for. For those that succeed, it is truly inspiring.


preservice student 6 years ago

Throughout preservice we were told that finding a job was our responsibility. Any additional help we received was a bonus. It is unfortunate that the economy has been taking a downward turn; however, when it comes to finding jobs, it is up to us to take the initiative to get those interviews and close the deal. The students in my cohort that dedicated themselves to the process of finding a job, impressing a school or district during an interview, and obtaining that coveted job offer were the students that asked questions, took helpful advise to heart, and used what they learned positively.


Mike B. 6 years ago

Fortune School of Education has been diligently working to update their programs based on the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing's ever-changing requirements. After experiencing Pre-Service over the summer, I have seen a great amount of positive change in the organization, presentation, and quality of the overall program. The FSE Staff has shown a passionate dedication to providing the best curriculum and supervision possible based on standards set by the CCTC.


R.R. 6 years ago

fortune school is a joke. the only thing that are good are my field supervisor and he was a good instructor too. otherwise things are disorganized and I have learned nothing in my classes. The instructors are always late to class but we get in trouble if we are late to class! There is hardly ever anyone there to check on us there is supposed to be someone there on sight but she is never around. I am only sticking with them cause it is the cheapest and easiest way to get a credential compared to other programs. but if I cared about the profesionalism of where I got my credential then I would not go to project pipeline.


ANONYMOUS 6 years ago

FORTUNE SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE WILLING TO GO OUT AND TAKE SOME OF THE TOUGHEST JOBS, AT ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR STUDENTS. THESE TEACHERS HAVE THE TENACITY AND PASSION TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. FORTUNE SCHOOL IS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET RIGHT INTO THE WORKFORCE AND START MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT NOW. I KNOW A FORTUNE SCHOOL DISTRICT INTERN WHO BEGAN AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR HAD ALREADY STARTED THIS YEAR. THE STUDENTS WERE REELING FROM A TEACHER WHO WAS NOT EFFECTIVE AND MADE IT INITIALLY DIFFICULT ON THIS NEW TEACHER. HOWEVER, SHE CAME IN WITH HIGH EXPECTATIONS AND DEDICATION TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THE STUDENTS TOOK SOME TIME TO ADJUST TO HER BUT BY ONE MONTH IN WERE TELLING HER SHE WAS THE BEST TEACHER THEY HAD. NOW STUDENTS WANTED TO DO WHAT THEY HAD NOT BEEN DOING BEFORE, BE SUCCESSFUL AND ACHIEVE GREATNESS IN THIS CLASS. THIS TEACHER RELIED ON HER FIELD SUPERVISOR, COORDINATOR AND INSTRUCTORS TO GIVE HER ADVICE AND STRATEGIES TO GO INTO A DIFFICULT SITUATION AND COME OUT ON TOP. FORTUNE SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE INSPIRING!


Valencia 6 years ago

I have read all the comments regarding Fortune School and I will have to admit it does sound like students are un-happy. However, I have been with Fortune School since the fall and I have had nothing but great experiences. At any university you will encounter poor teacher, boring books, and have to pay tuition. You will have good days and bad with your students, you probably can't afford your tuition-who can right now, really?! There materials are effective- if used in the manner they were intended and if you WANT to learn and become a teacher. CTC sets the guidelines for the programs, not Fortune School and they are continuously trying to work on improving their program. I even filled out a survey last semester to give them feedback, which I believe is a great way to make your experience here more satisfactory as they took those ideas to make this year’s program much more "friendly". If you don't give 100% and are negative, I think that is what you will get back from this program. If you DESIRE to become a great teacher, want to help future America be there best, and earn your credential while working (no regular university is like that), and finish in 2 years- this is the program for you. If your still unsure, go to the information session, they are free and you can decide from there. Plus for all those Pre-service haters out there, I think if you can make it through-you and Fortune School will know if this is the right avenue for you...it's your future and ours, let's make it the best it can be!


Shannon 6 years ago

Students who attend Fortune School of Education are dedicated to the communities that are low-income and low-performing. It is magical to see the students blossom into true teachers. While some students benefit from the traditional model of teacher preparation, others THRIVE in a cohort-centered environment. In my experience, this model provides a number of benefits -- most importantly, students are able to learn and grow together as teachers. If you are looking for a program that provides support both in and out of the classroom, this program is an excellent option.


Anonymous 6 years ago

Pre-service participants at Fortune School of Education (FSE) are prepared with enhanced programming including Classroom Management, Lanquage Acquisition and Content Specific Seminars. They are ready to enter the classroom to succeed. Interview tips are provided by experts such as the Assitant Superintendant Personnel Services in Martinez Unified. Job assistance is offered in the areas of resume and cover letter improvements, as well as how to maximize job search efforts. FSE staff proved last year that they can help secure interviews for nearly all pre-service participants who are subject matter competent and therefore meet Federal NCLB requirements. Nailing the interview and getting the job offer is not within the control of FSE, it is the participant's time to shine on their own with all of the support they received during pre-service. FSE district interns who understand the joys and challenges of concurrently teaching and completing coursework are successful in this alternative credentialing model. Candidates receive ongoing support once they become district interns from FSE staff, field supervisors, trained on-site mentors and administrators.


school administrator 6 years ago

I was really impressed when I heard that even in this difficult economy for schools, 92 people found teaching internships this school year through the collaboration that Fortune School of Education has with school districts in Northern California and the Central Valley. This means that school principals value the program. That fact should be an important consideration for anyone seeking to enter the teaching profession through this route. In my experience, many school districts work with Fortune School to develop their own teachers in shortage areas like math, science and special education. Fortune School provides new teachers with experienced supervisors who form a strong bond with intern teachers. They also provide stipends for mentor teachers to help intern teachers at their school site. That kind of financial support to schools to provide new teachers with support from caring veteran teachers is really hard to come by in these financial times. Being a teacher is a highly competitive occupation, especially now. In my experience, the people at Fortune School of Education work extremely hard on behalf of intern teachers to provide them with the preparation they need to be successful in the classroom. Sometimes people who are new to the profession, or who are considering the teaching profession, think they know more about teaching than they actually do. Sometimes people begin to value the lessons they learned in their teacher preparation program only after they have the benefit of real classroom experience. I get concerned about prospective teachers who race to skip teaching methods courses because they passed a simple exam. Perhaps these are the very people who could benefit from a full preparation program.


Trudy 6 years ago

I have known about Fortune School of Education for many years and they have a very well established and positive reputation among educators. In fact, many school administrators and veteran teachers are graduates of this program. For example, the Superintendent of the Center Unified School District in Sacramento is a graduate of this program as is the newly appointed principal of Health Professions High School. The program is fully accredited by the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing. As with all alternative certification programs this program is for people who know their subject matter and can thrive in internship model in which you go to school and teach at the same time. It is a rigourous program but you get a lot of support. Some people turn to alternative certification thinking its a short cut toteacher credentialing. But, they've got it all wrong. This pathway to certification is for people who are more experienced and able stand up to the rigor of being full-time teacher holding down a full course load. There are no short cuts and if you are looking for short cut, then you should look elsewhere. This program is really committed to serving students well and its graduates have gone on to do that in the classroom and in school leadership. There are advantages to alternative certification--you earn a teachers salary and benefits. This program allows you to pay as you go so you graduate without debt. You can also apply for an APLE warrant from the state if you attend Fortune School of Education and the state forgives some of you debt from previous education. You have to teach in a shortage area. Fortune School is really clear that it is your responsibility to find a job but they offer a ton of assistance. In this economy, everyone seeking a teaching position as a district intern is not going to get one. However the school goes out of its way to help people find jobs. You should know that they don't just recommend anybody. You have to meet high standards. Personally, I think that's the only credible thing to do. After all, our kids deserve the best teachers!


Anonymous 6 years ago

Fortune School of Education has a priority to produce teachers who WILL close the achievement gap. They ensure quality instructors including principals from high minority and high achieving schools with proven strategies that improve test scores. A recent Fortune School graduate is a teacher in the PE department with the highest fitness test scores in all of Oakland Unified. Another graduate who also just completed the Fortune School Masters Program in partnership with UOP was nominated for the teacher of the year award. Fortune School is dedicated to creating and sustaining a quality teacher workforce.


JDM 6 years ago

Project Pipeline offers the ECO option at a whopping 7K! Money making scheme. You have to pass the CSET,CBEST, TFE exam and have a teaching position prior to Pipeline consedring you as a candidate. Why are they charging 7K when there no classes to be taken? When you pass the TFE exam, you are exempt for all of the courses with the exception of the computer course, which you can test out of. So why the 7K??? I know why, so that they built a "Fortune" school...


Former Student 6 years ago

Project Pipeline is nothing short of a disappointment. Top 10 reasons to not pick Project Pipeline

1. Chances of finding a job…let’s just say you have a better chance to win the lottery

2. Not WASC accredited, your units will not transfer to any accredited institution, you will not qualify for FAFSA or the APLE loan forgiveness program

3. Project Pipeline claims to offer job placement, well they hold a job fair which usually brings three to four legitimate school districts to the fair and of those school districts that are at the job fair, they are only looking for one or two math teachers. So the rest of us are on our own to find a job.

4. Classes are a joke. I did not learn a single thing in Pre-Service, besides waste my $1300.00 and still to date no job. If you miss two hours of a 40 hour class, you do not pass the entire 160 hours of Pre-Service and Project Pipeline does not move you into their District Intern program. No accredited University will accept my Pre-Service course work from Pipeline

5. Majority of their talented staff quit, they have very high turnover. The summer that I was there, we had three different Coordinators

6. Coordinator of Supervision does not hold a Single Subject Credential, but yet she supervises Special Ed and Single Subject Teachers.

7. Admissions Coordinator AKA “Chief of Staff” does not even have or BA/BS and yet she reviews Credential applications to determine if you get into the program. Edmucation at is best

8. Of the 37 people who took Pre-Service including myself only four of Pre-Service participants actually found a teaching job. The rest of us are still looking, and yes we all have the CSET passed

9. They Claim that they have 98% graduation rate, well it is more like 68%.

10. Read all of the reviews, this many people cannot be wrong.

My experience with Project Pipeline has left me flabbergasted! This experience has affected me emotionally, but it also has affected me financially and professionally. I had to pay for the entire Pre-Service out of pocket. If I had gone thru a traditional credential program, I would have my credential by now and would be working. Emotional damage can be repaired, however professionally and financially the damage is much greater than words can express.


Betty 6 years ago

Thanks for posting this very important information about Project Pipeline. I'm glad I read the comments and can guess why they changed their name to Fortune School of Education. Sounds like they tried to escape their growing bad reputation by renaming themselves.


E.M. 6 years ago

You are a making a bad decision if you decide to attend the Fortune School of Education formerly Project Pipeline. Look elsewhere!


Rebecca 6 years ago

OMG- we were in the same class- I'm wondering who this is!! I agree 100000%! Project Pipeline was a waste of time!! I HATED THIS PROGRAM AND WAS POORLY FIT FOR THE CLASSROOM. Luckily I have raw talent and have been fine, NO THANKS TO PROJECT PIPELINE!

They changed their name to Fortune School of Education to avoid these ratings


Tyler 7 years ago

I completed Project Pipeline about 2 years ago. I am now attending a well-respected credential program, because I came away from Project Pipeline with a credential (true), but without any real training and basically unprepared for actual teaching in a real school, not the poorest preforming school in Oakland, where I did my internship.

DID ANYONE AT THE RECRUITMENT MEETING TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY COLLEGE CREDIT FOR YOUR P.P. WORK? Thats right: no college credit!

To make a long story short, during my time with P.P., because every member of my cohort became so enraged when we learned this a year into the program, P.P. quickly cobbled together an arrangement with U.S.D. to provide credit for an extra $60 per unit. This agreement lasted less than 2 years. Pipeline even had the gall to charge a $10 per unit processing fee!

Then there was my superviosing teacher (from pipeline); she came exactly 4 times over the course of 2 years. Each time that she came, she was simply critical.

Every decent credential program out there offers intern programs, ask them. They might not be too excited about it, but they've got them.

The problem with teaching as an intern is that you've been thrown into the deep end of the pool without any lessons. A few people do fine right from the start, but most, including you and me, struggle mightily.

If you already have a ton of post-baccalaureate units, have been teaching, such as in a private school, and just need the piece of paper to make you NCLB 'highly qualified', then Project Pipeline may be right for you, if you don't mind giving thousands of dollars to an organization that, in my opinion, is unscrupulous. If you actually want or neede some training and pedagogy, then my advice is STAY AWAY FROM PROJECT PIPELINE AT ALL COSTS!

It's one of the poorest decision I've ever made.


Theresa  7 years ago

Just a note to say that I too am a Project Pipeline Intern Graduate. I was never informed of the early completion option during my first interview with a Pipeline advisor in March of 2003.I certainly would have taken the test as I was looking for the quickest least expensive way to earn my teaching credential and support my family after a messy divorce. Completing the program in one year certainly would have helped. The most important misunderstanding in my book was the fact that I was a probationary teacher for three years instead of the normal two. This affected my ability to achieve tenure in my first district due to shrinking student populations. I have been told that this is not the case in all districts, however knowing that the district that hired me had this clause might have made me choose one of the other districts that offered me a job.

Make sure that you check out this issue when accepting a job.

I have to disagree with the comments about poor teachers and supervisors. My Pipeline supervisor was outstanding and completed all of her observations on schedule, giving me clear,concise plans to improve my teaching practice.She supported me in my personal and professional growth and I consider her a friend even though we are no longer in touch. Teachers in the program, while not always brimming with energy, were competent and caring; some were absolutely amazing. I will never forget the teacher who began each of her lessons with a different teaching strategy. From totem poles as an icebreaker to ask one tell one to assess prior knowledge, to whip around reviews to check for student understanding after a lesson she was the BEST TEACHER I have had in my entire educational career. Yes, some textbook reading was required and some of the learning was boring;not all teachers were perfect. Who expected them to be? I took the teaching styles that bored me in my teachers as a challenge to change in my classroom and found many ways to change reading assignments into group lab learning assignments and internet based assignments. The classes were intense and self directed because we are adults. The program gives you what you put into it.

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Current Student of Fortune School formerly known as Project Pipeline 7 years ago

I am sorry to hear about your experience but my experience with the Fortune School of Education has been satisfying thus far. There are other credential programs to choose from, just like there are several colleges and universities to choose from. As individuals, we have to choose the right program that best works for us. Fortune School has provided me with the appropriate amount of coursework and seat hours (the summer classes) required by the state, to enter the classroom as a teacher. And shortly after successfully completed my summer classes, they were adamant with helping my cohort find employment. It was their help that assisted me in rejoining the workforce in the field of education, after being unemployed for a year.

Like with any huge financial investment, I would suggest to anyone interested in receiving a teaching credential, to do all of your homework, ask questions, and meet with a few administrators before making a solid decision about your future career choice.


Lisa Anderson 7 years ago

As the Director of Human Resources for Project Pipeline, I would like to take this opportunity to share some useful information with you regarding the Early Completion Option (ECO) program. It’s very important to Project Pipeline that you’re provided with accurate information to assist you with choosing a program that’s a good fit for you. My goal is to address your comments and extend an invitation for you to speak with me personally regarding the ECO program and other programs we offer. After reading this you’ll know what the eligibility requirements are, when the application is due and who should consider the ECO route.

The ECO program is an individualized, rigorous, and highly selective program. This program is designed for candidates who have passed the Teaching Foundation Exam (TFE), CSET and other requirements that are listed below in more detail. Qualifying subjects for the ECO are English, mathematics, science, and social science.

The following is a list of requirements set forth by Project Pipeline, in collaboration with the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing:

1. Admission into Project Pipeline (requirements include: Baccalaureate degree from an accredited college/university, passing score on the CBEST , proof of U.S. Constitution, Certificate of Clearance issued by the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing.

2. Evidence of Subject Matter Competency (CSET or Subject Matter Equivalency Letter).

3. Passing score on Teaching Foundations Exam (TFE). For more information regarding the exam, please visit www.ctc.ca.gov or www.ets.org/praxis.

4. Full-time teaching contract with a school or district in our consortium.

5. Successful interview with Project Pipeline’s Admissions Panel, which includes teaching a Demonstration Lesson and lesson plan activity.

6. The ECO option is a one year program and is ONLY offered during the fall semester. Applications are due March 1, 2010.

If you have any questions or would like additional information, please contact me directly either via email at anderson@projectpipeline.org or by phone at (916) 924-8633. I look forward to speaking with you and providing you with more information regarding this exciting opportunity.


Jacqueline 7 years ago

I think I have a perspective to add to this conversation! I have worked for Project Pipeline for 5 years - as an instructor, field supervisor, and Coordinator of Support. I also have 10 plus years of public school teaching experience and remember well my 1st year of teaching and the stresses involved.

I would like to encourage individuals who are interested in becoming a teacher to seriously consider Project Pipeline as an option for either the Early Completion Option (ECO) or the District Intern option. The best route to credentialing will depend on your previous experience working in school settings, your ability to "hit the ground running," and most importantly, your ability to synthesise information and support given to you from people in a position to help.

I know that Project Pipeline offers a wealth of support to all participants including a buddy to help with first day of school prep, an on-site mentor, and a field supervisor. This is in addition to the Coordinators and other support staff that are ready and willing to help.

If you are considering teaching as a profession, Project Pipeline is an excellent route to credentialing.


Claudia 7 years ago

So, I passed the TFE and it was a total breeze. I read the chapter summaries from anita woolfolk's educational psychology textbook to prepare. I got a 199/200 on the exam.

I highly recommend this option.


jdman10 7 years ago

I wish I had looked for this earlier and repeated the same mistake of thinking that project pipeline will be a good option after an information session. Well it was a surprise. Project pipeline intentionally misinforms or blacks out the ECO (early completion option)that is authorised by law under SB 57. The whole aim initially is to hook large number of prospective teachers into paying non refundable $ 500 fee. Most universities charge less than $100. Chapman University has same program and fee is $50 which is waived off if you do it on line. CCTC requires that people who pass TFE should have to do only the TPA's and student teaching component for earning preliminary teaching credentials. So look out Project Pipeline may not be the best option to get the teaching skills or a job and it is definitely not the cheapest option. If you do TFE (Praxis II) you save more than a year of internship. The point to note here is that intern's pay is less by a significant amount and you loose that money because Project pipeline never told you about that option in there information sessions. Second you will save on tutions for the year. My advise after learning it the hard way is that to be a teacher ECO by passing TFE is one the best option. Many universities are offering the intern ship with ECO with a much better quality of educational staff and at a much lesser cost. Think Twice before you sign up to pay nonrefundable $500 and then two installments of $ 400 (total $1300) without even knowing that you will get a job. Well if there is a demand for teacher you have many more options but looking at the market, Project Pipeline is most expensive option specially if you want to go the TFE way. The Universities will talk clearly from day one with organized plans and highly quallified staff. They are educational inistitutions. This is a business like any other to make FORTUNE out of your money. If you are planning to be a High School teacher, you will be surprised that most teaching staff were from elementary/middle school teaching background and non science/math. I am in full agreement with the views expressed by teachers on this site.

To sum up:

1. PROJECT PIPELINE INFORMATION SESSIONS ARE MAINLY TO CONVICE YOU THAT THEY ARE THE BEST AND MAKE YOU PAY $ 1300 AND 4 HOURS (M-F) OF LISTENTING TO OTHERS TAKING THE COURSE IS RIGHT FOR YOU. SOME DAYS YOU MAY HAVE SUBS TOO.

2. TEACHING FOUNDATION IS THE BEST OPTION. THE TEST IS LONG BUT NOT VERY DIFFICULT. mULTIPLE CHOICE IS SAME FOR NEARLY ALL SUBJECTS AND THE TWO LESSON PLANS ARE FROM THE SUBJECT CONTENTS AREA.

3. THERE ARE MANY CHEAPER OPTIONS WITH MOST WORK ONLINE AND MUCH BETTER SUPPORT. UNIVERSITIES ALSO HAVE FINANCIAL AIDS, LOANS AND MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY.

4. Make a better choice and dont feel bad after losing money and no job.


joe gregory 7 years ago

wow, sorry to hear all of that. i'm an instructor there, but was unaware of the one year option. fortunately i don't sound like the instructors you spoke of, but i hope the powers that be carefully read your evaluation.


Lisa Smiley 7 years ago

Wow! I'm so glad I read this. I too was excited about what PPL had to say, but with a hint of confusion in the back of my mind. They made it sound too easy. California and their laws are so screwed up when it comes to obtaining a credential. California should require all of these rip off teaching programs to include CSET competencey in the program itself. I guess it's just all a money making scheme for California and these testing companies to make more money. If Obama needs to do anything, it's to stop those of us who really want to become teachers from being ripped off by places like Pipeline and testing companies. What the heck is Ctc doing? They have to know about what's going on!! I'm so frustrated!!!


ClaudiaC 7 years ago

Any pointers on how to pass the TFE? I am signed up to take it next weekend and I have not studied and have never been a teacher. I don't even know where to begin!!!! Help!


ClaudiaC 7 years ago

CSUEB was fine. It sounds pretty efficient and they do offer an intern route, but you have to find the job on your own. I have NO idea how to do this. But I would much prefer to have a credential from a school and if you can get the job you can do that instead of your student teaching. So, I guess the big question is, other than PP's job fair, how do you get the job?


mirabilis 7 years ago Author

Oops, wrong link.  Here's the link to CSU East Bay's credential page.  In the lower right hand corner they have SB 57 links.

http://edschool.csueastbay.edu/Departments/TED/TED...


mirabilis 7 years ago Author

Thanks for adding your experience with CSET and Project Pipeline to the discussion. I got my CSET waiver from CSU Northridge two years ago, and it was relatively painless. However, now they will only evaluate your transcripts if you attended or were accepted to their school.

From my experience, the TFE was not that hard. I took it on a saturday in november after I had already begun teaching, so I had no time to prepare. And I wasn't feeling well. But I got an almost perfect score.

I'd be interested to hear what CSU East Bay offers. From their website, it looks like they do offer early completion (SB 57) http://www.csun.edu/biology/credentials.htm


ClaudiaC 7 years ago

ok, I am so glad to see this post. What do we do instead?

I was soaring with excitement, but totally suspicious after a Feb info session in Oakland.

Since then, though, I have bumped into a couple inaccuracies in the presentation that makes me wary of the program as a whole.

First, the admissions guy totally makes it sound like you can get the CSET waiver soooo easily. This is just not the case. Cal State Ed departments do them, not the department of the subject. They are not interested in my degree from one of the best universities in the country. I have to take the CSET. But I wasted a good month of my time trying to get a waiver signed instead of just studying for the stupid thing.

Next, the info given on APLE loan forgiveness is totally misleading. You have to teach for 4 consecutive years, there is $8k less for my subject than they told me there would be.

It really gives me pause. Will I get a credential? Will I get support? Will I get my books?

I guess part of the appeal is that it is so convenient and pretty cheap. And it doesn't look like CSUEB -which is probably a little cheaper- does an intern option. But Sonoma State does. It's just a much longer drive to class.

Private institutions do as well- Alliant and I think Chapman. And they all offer the Early Completion option too.

PP makes it sound like the TFE is really tough. They told us you have to have passed it before you start (aort of impossible since its in July) and warned us that its sooooooo hard only lawyers pass it.

Anyway, can we keep this conversation going?

I want to know what everyone else is doing as an alternative?

I'm on my way right now to an info session at CSUEB. I'll post info here when I get back.

If anyone wants to chat about this you can email me at anonymousclaudia@gmail.com


awood 7 years ago

Thanks for the info. I am still interested in the program but will be wary!


robbiegirl73 7 years ago

I, too, am very grateful you posted your comments. I also went to one of their Informational meetings in Oakland on Jan 13th. I also left very enthusiastically; however, I certainly wasn't given the Pros AND Cons of being in this program, so thanks again!


Mike A 7 years ago

Thanks for taking the time and having the values to post this website. I too am interested in the pipeline program. Hopefully the program will be improved by the existence of your post. PP students will go in with open eyes and tempered expectations.


Marvel Moe 8 years ago

I am so glad I read this post. I just passed the CBEST exam and I am about to take the CSET exam in English and then go through the Pipeline program. I had no idea about the early completing option and I will definitely plan to use it. As far as not missing one day, does that include medical emergencies that you can provide proof to verify? I dont mind the hours, but a lot of things can happen that we don't plan for. I appreciate the time you spent on giving us this information and I hope your teaching career goes great. You can contact me at marvel451@aol.com


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Eileen Hughes 8 years ago from Northam Western Australia

That doesn't sound right thats for sure. Dont give up keep at it.

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