Is there life on Mars? - the debate

Mars

Mars the Red Planet
Mars the Red Planet

Is there life on Mars?

"Mars has become a kind of mythic arena onto which we have projected our Earthly hopes and fears," wrote world famous astronomer Carl Sagan. For very many years the debate has continued about whether the Red Planet actually has life on it. That it could have is not just an idea from science-fiction or fantasy books and films but is a seriously contended issue and a belief of a great number of people.

The mainstream view is that no evidence of life on Mars has so far been found, and that conditions there are unsuitable. However, if you study conspiracy theories, ufology and the comparatively new subject of exopolitics - the political implications of extraterrestrial presence - you soon find plenty of authors, researchers and speakers on the subject who argue that life on Mars is a definite reality.

Many of the views expressed by these people are extremely controversial and can be seen as downright bizarre by the standards of commonly accepted beliefs about the nature of reality and the universe. But what if any of it is true? I am well aware that some readers demand peer-reviewed scientific evidence before they accept anything, and that most of the claims are backed only by word of mouth, but again I ask: what if any of what is being claimed is the truth?

Alternative Three

I came across the idea of Martians and life on the Red Planet long ago in science-fiction and had accepted it as being a fantasy until I read the controversial book Alternative 3 by Leslie Watkins. Although this paperback book which is now seriously hard to get hold of, was presented as fiction its author has stated that it was based on fact.

A TV drama programme entitled Alternative 3 was broadcast once in 1977 by Anglia Television. It was intended as a spoof and not to be taken seriously but this is not how it was received by a large number of viewers. Watkins wrote his book based on the screenplay for the TV drama but wasn't expecting what happened. He was deluged with thousands of letters from readers who basically led him to understand that what was presented on TV and written about in his book was based on a sinister reality. Of course it is worth noting that the 1938 radio airing of War of the Worlds narrated by Orson Welles had had a similar effect when thousands of listeners thought the Earth was really being invaded.

The idea in the story is that scientists had determined that the Earth was not going to be able to support human life for that much longer due to pollution and climate change but they had come up with three solutions to tackle this. The first was to drastically depopulate the planet, the second was to build vast underground cities and bases where the elite, the leaders of the governments and a cross section of the public would go until it had become safe again above ground, and the third alternative was to create colonies on the Moon and Mars. Here the best scientists and other top people from all spheres of endeavour would go and other Earth people would be abducted and brought there to be used as slave labour.

Conspiracy theorists believe that all these three alternatives were actually put into practice. It is believed that there are secret bases on the Moon and Mars and a Mars Colony. Jim Keith's Casebook on Alternative 3: Ufo's, Secret Societies and World Control , claims that some ideas expressed in the broadcast were in fact true.

Nikola Tesla

So how did all this interest and belief in life on Mars get started? Many famous and notable people have made statements that fuelled the belief. One of the first was the genius inventor Nikola Tesla, who received some signals he thought might have come from Mars. In a 1901 interview he stated: "It was some time afterward when the thought flashed upon my mind that the disturbances I had observed might be due to an intelligent control. Although I could not decipher their meaning, it was impossible for me to think of them as having been entirely accidental. The feeling is constantly growing on me that I had been the first to hear the greeting of one planet to another."

It was later reported in 1902 that Lord Kelvin, who had been visiting America at the time, had claimed that he thought Tesla had received signals from Mars sent to the continent. However, Lord Kelvin subsequently denied that he had said this.

Andrew D. Basiago

Andrew D. Basiago
Andrew D. Basiago

Andrew Basiago - The Pegasus Project

Andrew D. Basiago

One of the most controversial people making a name for himself by talking about Mars, and his experiences in actually teleporting to the planet, is Andrew D. Basiago.

Basiago is described as a lawyer, a writer and visionary. It is said in his "Mission Statement" (see the Project Pegasus website) that "Project Pegasus was begun in 1968 by Andrew D. Basiago, when he was serving as a child participant in the US time-space exploration program, Project Pegasus."

And further: "Andy, a lawyer in private practice in Washington, was the first American child to teleport and one of America’s early time-space explorers, as told in his soon-to-be-published book, Once Upon a Time in Time’s Stream: My Adventures in Project Pegasus at the Dawn of the Time-Space Age ."

He claims to have not only teleported to Mars but also to have travelled in time, and that these technologies exist and are kept secret by the government. Andrew Basiago has been giving a lot of talks about his experiences and there are a lot of videos of him speaking. Just try Googling "Andrew Basiago" and you will see what I mean. You will find one interview he gave to Jessica Schab aka Jessica Mystic whom I have a hub about too.

Not surprisingly, with the nature of the material he talks about, not everyone is convinced that what he says is the truth. Some of his detractors have even gone as far as to point out that his recorded voice sounds spookily like that of lecturer, author and conspiracy theorist David Wilcock. And indeed it does! David Wilcock is a mysterious man himself and is believed by many to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, the American psychic who came up with all sorts of incredible information about illnesses, world history, Atlantis and Earth changes, whilst in a trance state. He was known as the "Sleeping Prophet." There is an uncanny likeness between Wilcock and Cayce!

Wheels within wheels and mysteries within mysteries. This all gets stranger and stranger. The mystery deepens!

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower
Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, whom I have interviewed for HubPages in the past, is the great-granddaughter of the late President Eisenhower. She describes herself as a "colleague" of Andrew Basiago and the two have appeared together on the same bill at various events. In her interview here, whilst talking specifically about Mars, she said: "Basically the implementation of a secret Mars Colony happened to only adhere to a small portion of the population, and was a plan instigated through contact with an ET race..."

On her CosmicGaia website Laura says that she has been: "Continuing both the Eisenhower and Magdalene legacies, she has battled dark, hidden forces and agendas in order to protect humanity from larger global crises, including a recruitment to a Colony on Mars that represented a time-line that she refused to go along with."

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower is one of the people who are very sure of the reality of life on Mars.

Alfred Lambremont Webre

The Wikipedia entry for Alfred Lambremont Webre describes him in this way: Alfred Lambremont Webre, J.D., M.Ed. (b. May 24, 1942 on a U.S. Naval Air Station) is an author, lawyer (member of the District of Columbia Bar), futurist, peace activist, environmental activist, and a space activist who promotes the ban of space weapons."

He is also Chairman of the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS). Webre has been one of the main people behind the subject of exopolitics and has written the book: Exopolitics: Politics, Government, and Law in the Universe. On March 10, 2007, he launched the Exopolitics Radio show and has had many quests on there ever since talking about the sort of subject material he is interested in and presents.

On his exopolitics.com website Webre reveals that Andrew Basiago and fellow time and space-traveller William B. Stillings have confirmed that Barack Obama was in the Mars training class along with them back in 1980. And further that they actually encountered him again on Mars itself in the American base there during separate visits between 1981 and 1983. Obama was then known as Barry Soetoro and changed his name to Barack Obama before he became the current American president.

Face on Mars

Face on Mars
Face on Mars

Richard C. Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland is a name well-known to conspiracy theorists, alternative historians and ufologists. An American author, he has put forward the theories that there were alien civilisations on the Moon and Mars and that NASA and the US government are well aware of this but are concealing the truth from the general public.

Hoagland is one of the main proponents of the idea that the so-called "Face on Mars" is evidence of lost alien civilisations there. This face is part of an ancient city and pyramids that he claims were built in the Cydonia area of Mars.

Hoagland also believes that the Martian civilisation knew of a cataclysm that would destroy much of the life as it was there and that they escaped by coming to Earth. According to this theory we are descended from them.

Amongst Hoagland's writings and books is The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever (2002).

Scientology

Science-fiction author and creator to the Scientology religion L Ron Hubbard taught his followers that there was life on Mars. In fact Scientologists learn that it is where there is an "Implant Station" where the disembodied "thetans" (spirits) can go after their bodies have died. There is another such place on Venus, Hubbard claimed. Hubbard said that thetans are bombarded with images on vast electronic screens and force-fed false memories before being sent back to Earth to pick up a new body.

There is another Scientology connection with Mars. David Bowie's backing band at one time in the early 1970s was the Spiders From Mars. Former drummer of the Spiders From Mars Woody Woodmansey joined Scientology in 1973 and is a still part of it.

One of Bowie's most highly-acclaimed songs is entitled Life on Mars. It was first released in 1971 as part of his album Hunky Dory but became a number 3 hit when released again as a single in 1973.

So is there really life on Mars? After reading all this I will let you be the judge of that!

David Bowie - Life On Mars (HD music video)

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carol3san 5 years ago from Hollywood Florida

Wow....this is a very interesting hub. I tend to shy away from science subjects but you've captured my interest today. The video was very interesting. voted up.


Sparkster 5 years ago

Other sources from NASA claim that advanced technological artifacts left over by ancient civilizations were found on the moon. I remember hearing decades ago about plans to colonize Mars.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, carol3san and Sparkster! Yes, I know about the Moon stuff as well but was just focusing on Mars here!


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robie2 5 years ago from Central New Jersey

what a fascinating mixture of people and theories this hub is. Like you, I read all sorts of sci fi about the red planet as a kid. I tend to give conspiracy theories a wide birth, but I am fascinated by what you say in your hub about Nikola Tesla and also by Laura Magdalene Eisenhower. She looks a bit like her great grandfather and I find it ironic that she is doing her bit to protect the world from the " military/industrial complex he warned us about. Really interesting hub--voted up and more. Nice going, Bard:-)


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you! You may find Laura's interview of interest too - it is linked in the text! I suppose I came in on this via the Alternative 3 book which I used to have. A friend who knew what it was borrowed it off me saying I'll look after it so don't worry and then months later admitted to me he had lost it! So that is where mine went!


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sparkster 5 years ago from United Kingdom

I remember someone else mentioning Alternative 3 lately, I can't think who it was...


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

The entire text of the book was on the Internet several years back but it got removed. I remember my father downloaded and printed it all off before it went! I don't know really why someone doesn't reprint it and take advantage of all the publicity it has had!


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brittanytodd 5 years ago from Kailua-Kona, Hawaii

Wow! This is a great hub! I have to watch Alternative 3 now. Thanks for sharing. I am going to include this in my favorite hubs hub. Great work! Voted up, interesting, etc.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I've been intrigued by theories of life on Mars so many years. Your article is most interesting. I can think it could be true, but it can't be accepted on faith and generally known facts are lacking. However many truths lack proof. Our little planet is hardly the repository all truth and knowledge. And on it, as your essay points out, much information is guarded as gold and a source of power.

Nicolai Tesla was so far ahead of his generation in many ways. His personality was so abrasive that he he failed to win friends and influence people easily. Perhaps he just couldn't abide fools and didn't mind showing it.

Of course, one has mixed feelings about it all, probably not totally unlike those felt about Galileo's heliocentrism which earned him accusations of heresy which forced him to recant and to spend the rest of his life under house arrest. The powers in control are more than just suspicious of ideas which threaten their grasp.

I read all your article with keen attention, but will return to view the videos and think about it further. Thank you for bringing it to light.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for voting this up and favouriting it, Brittanytodd, and thank you for your feedback too, Nellieanna!


eLeMaRs 5 years ago

I am a photo analyst for MARS ( Mars Anomaly Research Society ) and after thousands of hours examining Mars rover and orbiter photos I can say without ANY doubt whatsoever that Mars is an inhabited Planet. Lewis Michael Rhinehart


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for posting that feedback confirming the reality of life on Mars!


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fen lander 4 years ago from Whitstable

Some years back I went to a meeting of the Aetherius Society with a mate. They had in their possession (so they said) photos of 2 mile long machines on the surface of Mars. I never saw the pics. They told the meeting that NASA was scouring the earth trying to find psychics, so they could be sent to Mars and 'purify' the 'psychic environment' of the planet. Astrologically speaking it's the planet of War and the vibes there are inimical to happy humanity. That's what they said..... Great and interesting article. You've resparked or rekindled my old interest in that world. I'm also fascinated with Venus - the Aetherius Society said that Jesus came from (and returned to) Venus, planet of Love - 'I am not of this world....' Voting up.


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks, Fen! Yes, I know about the Aetherius Society, George King wasn't it running it? Mars is my ruling sign seeing as I was born just into Aries. The island I live on has loads of plants ruled by Mars - Dragon Trees and Tabaibas/Spurges and up on Mt Teide looks like Mars! I wrote an article for Living Tenerife mag back in 2005 entitled Gardening the Martian Way. Btw I am writing a book provisionally entitled Herbs of the Sun, Moon and Planets based on the planetary rulers and astrology.


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fen lander 4 years ago from Whitstable

Yeah George king or Lord George King as they called him. They're still going I think - they used to publish a magazine too. They're an interesting bunch of people with some intriguing ideas. Their publication left me seriously wondering if I am a exo-human hybrid! I know how daft that sounds but it's true!

I think I'll check-out Tenerife and see what zodiac sign is influencing the place (according to my landscape zodiac). I've often wondered if the island has ten reefs around it because of the name's similarity to ten-reefs. That would be Martian, as reefs are sharp teeth and that's pure Mars..... I'll get back to you on that. I like the sound of that book.


brendan 4 years ago

Pretty interesting article, till a video of Phil Schnieder is included. He has done so much to discredit the UFO/ET phenomenon.


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Fen, yes, I had sent my Herbs of Mars text to Llewlyn Books but they said it was too specific just for one planetary ruler but a herbal for all of them they would be interested in. I took that as a hint! Brendan, did you actually watch the video? Phil isn't in it much. It is about Alternative 3 not him. You don't like him but he has plenty of supporters who believe what he said.


eLeMaRs 4 years ago

In your Mars related links you mention Project Pegasus. Pegasus is dedicated to Time Travel/Teleportation. The site for MARS is www.projectmars.net where you will find the work published by Andrew D. Basiago entitled "The Discovery of Life on Mars". That work and some of the work of other Mars researchers, including myself, can be found in "The Annals of Mars" located at that site. Again, this is not conjecture. Mars is inhabited by humanoids and animals. We have been there for at least 4 decades. Lewis


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for that info, Lewis! I have added the link in with the others.


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thesingernurse 4 years ago from Rizal, Philippines

This is very interesting! And if it's true, it would be a relief to know that we might have descended from Martians rather than from the apes. Lol. On the other hand, I am open to the idea of another undiscovered life or colonies from outer space. I might sound ridiculous for some but given the vast expanse of this universe, such thing won't be impossible. While we think that the earth is the only living planet, somewhere, there might be other living creatures...But then, that's just my speculation. I think about it whenever I'm hungry... Just like now. Hahaha! More power Bard of Ely!


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Tina! If this was the only planet with life on it that would be very very strange and unlikely as far as I am concerned!


eLeMaRs 4 years ago

thesingernurse, Understand that again, this is not conjecture, but the simple truth. There are a number of reasons why this is being kept secret. The fact is, their are many many planets in our galaxy alone that are inhabited. The human form is the most common intellectual being in many colours shapes and sizes. Consider this, their are over 200 billion stars in our galaxy and their are at least 200 billion galaxys !


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your feedback, Lewis!


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thesingernurse 4 years ago from Rizal, Philippines

Wow... Thank you very much for that clarification eLeMars! I've always thought the same. :)

You are right Bard of Ely. And I would be very thrilled to meet 'them'! :)


eLeMaRs 4 years ago

Indeed...we are not alone and never have been.


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dipless 4 years ago from Manchester

Nice hub, a good read :)


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you!


eLeMaRs 4 years ago

"In the case of the jump rooms to Mars, which establish that the US has time travel technology and is sending people to Mars with it, we now have five whistle blowers: Michael Relfe, Andrew D. Basiago, Arthur Neumann, William B. Stillings, and Laura M. Eisenhower." -- Andrew D. Basiago


realeyes 4 years ago

Was there life on Mars? Of corse!! Only a long time ago! I don't know can i believe to youtube videos or not, but im sure there was life on Mars before humanity! Maybe they re killed themselves or God punished them for something!


Darrow 3 years ago

This won't be welcome but there is a basic fundamental mistake that Eisenhour and Basagio are making. They apparently don't know how the Mars photos are actually produced. These pictures are built up over layer upon layer using sets of rotating color filters and can tahe anywhere from Ten minutes to a couple of hours for High Definition shots. There is also the problem of the Two minute transmitting signal back to Earth and the Two minute confirmation signal sent back to the Spirit Rover. Any "Living Creature" would have to be standing perfectly motionless through the the entire process to even appear on these photos. I'm really disappointed because it was a fascinating story till this basic error.


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sparkster 3 years ago from United Kingdom

realeyes, scientists believe there was life on Mars until the planet suffered a magnetic apocalypse millions of years ago. Earth is currently experiencing a geomagnetic pole-shift which could have the same result in just a few centuries time.

Darrow, I have written about those whistleblowers - doesn't seem very credible but it's interesting.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for that! I have used the word 'Debate' in the title so appreciate both sides to the story.


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CraftytotheCore 3 years ago

Very interesting reading! I like how you put a lot of effort in to your writing. It shows in these very interesting Hubs!


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you very much! Yes, I have worked on a lot of them not that makes any odds here because so many get unfeatured!


eLeMaRs 3 years ago

This is an update on the identification of the three main typologies of humanoids on Mars. There are others, but again these are the main three.

"A grammarian has corrected MARS' naming of the three Martian humanoid species. The Latin stem "maris" refers to "marine" or "sea," not "Mars." The proper Latin stem for Mars or Martian is "martis." Therefore, MARS has corrected the naming of the three Martian humanoid species under the Linnaean system of classification so as to read "Homo martis terris" (Earth man of Mars), "Homo martis martis" (Martian man of Mars), and "Homo martis extraterrestrialis" (Extraterrestrial man of Mars). Please make a note of it. -- Andrew D. Basiago, president, Mars Anomaly Research Society"


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sfowke 2 years ago from Queensland, Australia

This was both a fun and interesting read. You know just when I think I know everything noteworthy about Tesla, some new bite of awesomeness crops up.

Just as a side note, I am a new writer here and have been too nervous to put anything out. You've given me the confidence to just relax, have fun with it and just write.


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for enjoying my hub and commenting! I am glad you have found my work of some help to you. Welcome to HubPages and good luck hubbing!


eLeMaRs 2 years ago

I understand that this is a debate thread. With that said, the facts must be known. Laura Eisenhower is not a photo analyst and has not done work on exposing the fact that Mars is inhabited via rover and orbiter images. She was recruited for the Mars colony and refused to go. Andrew D. Basiago holds at least five degrees and has a Mensa IQ. He published the first paper that shows live on Mars entitled, 'The Discovery of Life on Mars', on 12/12/08. With all due respect for the 'debate', Mars IS inhabited, period. In Truth, Lewis


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Lewis, it is still a debate because many people would not agree with you and what you have stated is your opinion. Until something is agreed on or accepted by a majority it is debatable. In fact it is still debatable even when there is a majority verdict. If there is any doubts about a matter then it can be debated surely?


eLeMaRs 2 years ago

Bard of Ely, I agree completely! With that said, I have known that Mars is inhabited for over five years now. We have been lied to about Mars and of course many other things. In Truth, Lewis


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sparkster 2 years ago from United Kingdom

Hey Bard,

Here's a 1907 quote from the founder of the Lowell Observatory:

"Mars is most decidedly inhabited by a race of intelligent beings."

He also allegedly had images of Mars showing forest growth and oasis, back in 1915!!


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Bard of Ely 2 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for sharing that, Sparkster!


eLeMaRs 2 years ago

It will be very soon that the general population knows that Mars is indeed inhabited and that we have been there for decades. Lewis

Q - Andy, what were the weapons you carried? I read that you had a wound on the arm due to one of those beasts, but when you jumped back it dissapeared; is it like that?

A - " I always carried a flash gun that had a Heat, Stun and Kill setting. It was kept in a locker at the West Coast jump site in El Segundo, CA and I would retrieve it before jumping. The Kill setting was strong enough to kill some of the sub-lethal predators but would only antagonize the several largest and most aggressive ones. So, I always carried a cyanide capsule in the event that I was cornered by one of the predators that we could not evade and didn't want to be toyed with while being eaten. The odd thing was that on the night run with Bernie, Regina and the other jumper that we hope to bring forward publicly, my right arm was bitten off but reconstituted itself before we got back to El Segundo via jump room. Bernard Mendez and I have concluded that the only thing that explains all of the facts, including these holographic effects, is that we were being chronovised to the real Mars via jump room rather than teleported there." ~~ Andrew D. Basiago


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marscloseupdotcom 20 months ago

I have a web site dedicated to mars anomalies. But to tell you the truth I just don't know what to think of the characters mentioned. I do think there is a civilization underground on mars. But I go by Ernest Norman's book "The Truth About Mars" which I think he was telepathic and communicated with a being called Nur El. I also believe that Gary Wilcox in 1964 on April 24th communicated with two martians when they got out of their oval craft on Gary's 300 acre farm. He had quite a tale to tell but I think it was somewhat truthful. Later that day I think they went to New Mexico and that is where Lonnie Zamora spotted them and the oval craft. Also, the same year I think Donald Shrum and his experience in Cisco Grove saw martians. After going over thousands and thousands of mars photos buy Curiosity and satellite imagery, there has to be a civilization there. Those fake rocks sculptures are just too green. Enjoyed reading this hub page, I just am on the fence about Andrew and Laura etc. I just don't know ! But I enjoy the enthusiasm about there being a mars civilization!


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Bard of Ely 20 months ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for commenting! Ernest Norman, with his wife Ruth, was a founder of the Unarius organisation and belief system and, although it is all fascinating stuff I do not think any of it is real!


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marscloseupdotcom 20 months ago

'Thanks for commenting! Ernest Norman, with his wife Ruth, was a founder of the Unarius organisation and belief system and, although it is all fascinating stuff I do not think any of it is real!"

Please explain, I'm interested in why you don't think Ernest Norman is not valid. I can understand Ruth being a detractor but I would love to know why you think Ernest Norman is not the real deal?


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Bard of Ely 20 months ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

There is no evidence for any of Ernest or Ruth's claims.


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marscloseupdotcom 20 months ago

Thanks for getting back to me.

I sure can understand why Ruth practically destroyed Ernest's legitimacy.

She made bad predictions but those predictions happened after Ernest died. I think power really went to her head. And she didn't make a good showing on the David Letterman show etc.

But as far as Ernest Norman, I am only interested as of now in his book "The Truth About Mars". I am not a Unarian by any means. I find his book incredibly fascinating to say the least. Because of the materials that are used on mars I see the possibility of what Ernest mentioned in his book, in the fake rocks that seem almost everywhere on mars.

I've studied thousands upon thousands of images especially through the lens of the mascam which can really get close up and sometimes you get acceptable images. But of course not always. But in the process of looking at the images I see fake rocks that are "green" by the thousands and "green" simply is not ancient. But not only they are green but they seem moldable to such a high level that the thousands upon thousands of sculptures imprinted on the fake rocks just can't be sculpted from real rocks. They must be made from a type "plastic" source. I think the plastic is made from algae and I think that is the reason in my opinion for all the "green" fake type rocks.

In Ernest's book "The Truth About Mars" "plastics" are used in martians underground cities as well as "alga" is used for food.

So both "algae" and "plastic" are worded in Ernest Norman's book.

Another point is which I think is on monumental importance: "The Truth about Mars" was published in 1956. One main theme of that book is that a Nur El communicated with Ernest about the "tubes" of mars. On how the tubes can be seen going into and out of the earth from time to time depending on how the sands and mars dirt shifts etc. And that is exactly what shows up in the images.

The Truth About Mars book has two paragraphs I think are very interesting:

"I was immediately impressed by the soft white light that seemed to come from everywhere. We were standing near the entrance of a large tube. On Mars the cities are all underground and are connected together by huge oval metal tubes from three to five hundred feet in diameter. There are monorail cars as long as our pullman trains which glide silently and very swiftly from one city to another. The bottoms of these immense tubes are used for parks, growing foodstuffs and innumerable small manufacturing plants.

Because of the great distances between the cities, these tubes have been built only partially submerged. There are emergency air locks and bulkheads at the ends where they connect to the domes; other safety and precautionary measures are used to protect the cities and tunnels in case of breakdowns or outside attack. It is these tubes which have confused the astronomers on the earth. Some believe them to be canals. There are also other theories. The shifting desert sands often cover or uncover them which leads to further confusion inasmuch as they seem to appear and disappear."

Notice the word "tube" or "tubes"?

Remember, there was not a decent image of the planet mars until the Mariner 4 took the first images from outer space!

wiki:

"Mariner 4 (together with Mariner 3 known as Mariner–Mars 1964) was the fourth in a series of spacecraft intended for planetary exploration in a flyby mode. It was designed to conduct closeup scientific observations of Mars and to transmit these observations to Earth. Launched on November 28, 1964,[1] Mariner 4 performed the first successful flyby of the planet Mars, returning the first pictures of the Martian surface. It captured the first images of another planet ever returned from deep space; their depiction of a cratered, seemingly dead world largely changed the view of the scientific community on life on Mars.[2][3] Other mission objectives were to perform field and particle measurements in interplanetary space in the vicinity of Mars and to provide experience in and knowledge of the engineering capabilities for interplanetary flights of long duration. On December 21, 1967 communications with Mariner 4 were terminated."

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Again, these first images of the planet mars didn't happen until after 1964 when the Mariner 4 launched!

Again, Ernest book "The Truth About Mars" was published in 1956 !

How did he know about the tubes "going in and out of the earth" in 1956?

I have a bunch of images of tubes being wrapped around rocks which could only happen by intelligent design but most of all, I finally found one image that clearly shows a circular entrance into martian landscape:

http://www.marscloseup.com/uploads/4/3/6/1/4361100...

My theory is Ruth Norman almost destroyed his legitimacy when his wife took over, with the way she dressed, here bad predictions etc. I can't say she was all wrong but I am not a follower of the Unarian faith, just a believer in Ernest Norman's book "The Truth About Mars":

http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/mars/mars.ht...

Also I think his telepathy power to be legit, to able to communicate with a being called "Nur El" on the planet mars. Or should I say under the planet mars.

Sorry to be long winded, hope I didn't offend. I understand you may still not think Ernest is legitimate but I just had to throw my two cents in!

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