The Old and The New Zodiac Dates and Signs

There's a new zodiac on the market. So, if you didn't really got along with yourself there's a chance for you. So, you aren't a Scorpio but a Libra. That's why you couldn't understand yourself. That's why the predictions made for your sign never fulfilled, that's why you think that what ever happened to your friend should have happened to you. Because the Old Zodiac is wrong.


According with Parke Kunkle, professor of the Minnesota Planetarium Society interviewed by Fox 9 News, the ax of the Earth is now pointing in a different direction then some 3000 years ago, thus changing the Zodiacal signs. This happens because the Earth is spinning and it's ax is moving as it spins.

Claudius Ptolemeus, greek astronomer and mathematician, author of the star calendar.
Claudius Ptolemeus, greek astronomer and mathematician, author of the star calendar. | Source

New Zodiac Signs and Dates

The astronomical calculations, made by computers, determined the new Zodiac as follow:

Capricorn January 20 to February 16

Aquarius February 16 to March 11

Pisces March 11 to April 18.

Aries April 18 to May 13

Taurus May 13 to June 21.

Gemini June 21 to July 20

Cancer July 20 to August 10

Leo August 10 to September 16

Virgo September 16 to October 30

Libra October 30 to November 23

Scorpio November 23 to November 29

Ophiuchus November 29 to December 17

Sagittarius December 17 to January 20


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The Old Zodiac Signs and Dates

Capricorn December 22 to January 19

Aquarius January 20 to February 18

Pisces February 19 to March 20

Aries March 21 to April 19

Taurus April 20 to May 20

Gemini May 21 to June 20

Cancer June 21 to July 22

Leo July 23 to August 22

Virgo August 23 to September 22

Libra September 23 to October 22

Scorpio October 23 to November 21

Sagittarius November 22 to December 21

mythological Ophiuchus
mythological Ophiuchus | Source

If you compare the two charts you'll notice that the new Zodiac has 13 (thirteen) signs while the old one has only 12. The new Zodiac's signs are shorter while the old one are around 30 days, on average.

The new Zodiac sign is called Ophiuchus and it has been placed between Scorpio and Sagittarius. in fact, Scorpio is so short that it may disappear all together when the next new zodiac will come, 3000 years from now.

Ophiuchus, or Serpentarius, was known before as a Zodiac sign but rarely used. Now, it is about to gain a new reputation.

Each zodiac Sign has its own characteristics. It is not clear yet if they will follow the sign in its new astrological place or they will keep the old location, being switched to the new sign. Astrologers and mystics have a lot to work from now on. Besides, the old Zodiac has its corespondents in other Zodiacs, like the Chinese one. Now, these will change too.

Some people are very serious when it comes to astrological signs. It is believed that the alignment of the stars on a certain moment can contribute to success or failure, can favour or not a certain action or predict the future. The relation between a humble human being and the stars is determined at birth, when the stars are in a unique arrangement. That is the signs that every one of us has been born under. This sign would give us general physical and psychological characteristics, skills and talents and so on. Sometimes these sign representations are just anecdotal facts on one's biography but other times they are used as a proof of one's achievement.

The new zodiac will upset some people and make happy some others. Some of us may not care abou it at all. More important may be the scientific fact behind it. I, personally, hope that the three good fairies would still be the same.

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BkCreative 5 years ago from Brooklyn, New York City

I would be a Gemini now - doesn't seem right since I have such Cancerian attributes. When I worked in Korea I was told - based on the lunar calendar - then I was a Leo.

Interesting thought - but why now. Hmmmmm.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Hi BkCreative, I, too, changed the zodiac signs. Fortunately, my new sign has lots of features that I admire on people...I never thought to be my case too :).

And yes, you have a valid point, why now.

The livescience has published these facts some years ago, I'm not sure the exact year but I remember reading about it in 2009. Now I saw the news about a proffessor in Minnesota and the Fox 9 local news channel made a big deal about it. As today there are millions searches and results on Internet vs. just tens of thousands 2 days ago. Hmmm, I agree.


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Halima Fowosire 5 years ago from Osogbo,Osun State,Nigeria

I have always been proud to be a sagittarius,now I am a scorpio:(


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Wesman Todd Shaw 5 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

Very interesting, seems the dawning of my own age of Aquarius is at hand.


T Webb 5 years ago

So, if were born on May 13 that would make me a TaurAriesus, or vice versa. Stupid computers can't even get the dates right without running them together. Computers are very helpful, but they are only as smart as the programmers. Technology is great, but bricks are still put in place one at time.


T Webb 5 years ago

The zodiac signs will most likely be changed again in a hundred years or so. Why not leave well enough alone? Besides, would someone just show me one scientist that was alive 3000 years ago to know how the Earth was sitting on its axis.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Halima, Scorpio is a funny Zodiac, very unusual. you'll get used to it. Thanks for stopping.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Wesman Todd Show, I'm happy to meet you. As far as I know, the sign of Aquarius has a very distinctive character: it is innovative. I would be sad if innovation would stap, even for a second.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

T Webb, I understand your dilema, the 2 signs together, though, would make a vey strong Zodiac, aka personality :). Your true sign will be condition by your ascendat (or the rising star on the date you were born). In the ancient times the zodiac was built around the idea that the sun, the moon and other planets were moving around the planet Earth, which now we know that the planet Earth itself is moving. The heliocetric system (that the sun is fix and planets move around it) was first proposed by Aristarchus, a greek mathematician from Samoa. Nobody denied that someother astronomers would not hav thought of it before.

Thanks for stopping and commenting.


Andre 5 years ago

Hmm... I don't know what to feel about the new signs considering I feel I have the characteristics of both Capricorn and Sagittarius and don't know which one to stick to now. :/


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Hi Andre and thank you for stopping to my hub. I understand your dilema, I was a Scorpio and now I am a Libra and I like both signs. I told myself that, since everything is so new and confusing, I could be either one, whenever I need. I have some friends that are changing signs, like you. I still love them! Good luck to you.


Summer 5 years ago

i was sagittarius and i've always loved it.

Now i belong to the new sign, Ophiuchus.

I feel fine belonging to anywhich sign. anyway, anything is good. all of them have good and bad. and we all can transform beyond what the stars and planets and everything else say. Right?

this is a very handy comparison site. :)


Laur 5 years ago

But I'm not a Libra :( November 5th is Scorpio...at least, it should be. Seeing as I have a small scorpion and the word Scorpio tattooed on my wrist, I'm not one of those people who's too happy about this. Oh well. Guess I should look into laser tattoo removal, huh?


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Summer, you are a wise person and I like your approach. You are very right, far beyond the stars there is our own power and will that first work for us. I think you'll make a great Ophichus. Thanks for stopping.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Laur, I'm sorry about your tatoo. I think libra sign is more interesting than the insect.

The scorpion is a symbol of death and destruction. Unless you balance it with the renewal of life then there is no positive meaning for a scorpion. So, be happy you are a libra (I am). Thanks for your comment.


SomeGuy 5 years ago

People who were born on January 20th, which is exactly today, will be moving from Aquarius to Sagittarius, and bypassing Capricorn.

And I want my Capricorn back! Unless you give me my fish tail and a set of goat horns back.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

SomeGuy, Thank you for stopping. Look at the dates above and see that people born in Jan 2oth are in Capricorn.

Actually the new zodiac starts with the sign of Capricorn (Jan. 20 to Feb. 16), then it goes to Aquarius. The old zodiac started with Capricorn also but on December 22 to January 19. That is a month between the new and the old Capricorn.


Little Magpie 5 years ago

If you were born before these changes were made, you stay the same sign. you should mention that cuz people are getting all worked up about it. And I think, that the old one was right, because everyone has the attributes of their sign, the old one, and have no relation with the new.


Theresa 5 years ago

im soooooooooooooooo comfused i was born on August 10 so am i a Leo or a cancer????


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Little Magpie, the personality of a person does not change because astrologers came up with another zodiac. What's changing is the way we, ourselves, or others think about us, the way we or others are expenting us to be or behave. Nobody changes just because they were born under a different star. Thanks for stopping.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Theresa, looks like you are a Leo. It is said that Leos are strong, assertive and sometime very opiniated persons, very smart too. So, all good for you.


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RichERich1175 5 years ago

Wonderfully written and thought-provoking article. I have always been fascinated by the horoscope; I am somewhat resistant to change. I am still considering myself to a Scorpio--I feel that I fit the characteristics better. I am not ready to be a Libra!!!


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Rich, I undestand you very well. the same with me. But I always admired Libra for its good judgement.


ScorpioToLibra? 5 years ago

I know I have lots of Scorpio in me, but I donn't know anything about Libras.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

ScorpioToLibra,

Here is a very short description for Libra:

Libra is a very complex zodiac because the sign actualy means "balance". A person born as a libra would face this duality of equilibrium and instability. A Libra is a good diplomat, a conflict solver, an art lover, a social human being. A Libra would look for moderation and harmony. A Libra may be irresolut at time and may seek advise from friends; a Libra may try to succeed by will but will only succeed if he/she gives up the will. Will only succed by the act of giving love, friendship, trust, creativity, advise.

Libra has good judgement, is sophisticated and very patient. And also, a Libra is a romantic person.

I hope this brief overview will help.

Thaks for stopping by.


ScorpioToLibra? 5 years ago

Hmmmmm sounds a lot like me. Thank You!:)


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

ScorpioToLibra, you are welcome. I'm glad I could help.


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crystolite 5 years ago from Houston TX

Nice work but i don't really believe your list of the zodiac list because mt DOB is march22 and am never a Pisces but an Aries,so make more research.thanks.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

crystolite, the above hdates are the one proposed for a new zodiac. According with the old (and in use) zodiac dates, you are an Aries. So, if you want to know more, you should read the whole article. Thank you for stopping by.


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SUSANJK 5 years ago from Florida

I was so confused. I have always been a Scorpio, and I will stay a Scorpio.


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jamiecoins 5 years ago from ireland

wow a cool hub thanks


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

Susanjk, good for you. I always liked the zodic of Scorpio. I used to be one too but I'm not anymore. i'm nor sorry, just curious. Thanks for coming to my hub.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

jamiecoins, you are wellcome.


eudociadavis 5 years ago

Great hub,good work,

i always feel hunger to know the knowledge and

history of Zodiac Dates and Signs.

thanks alot for this lovely hub.


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Dawn Conklin 5 years ago from New Jersey, USA

Very interesting! I was a virgo from the old zodiac and now a leo from the new. I have always had characteristics from both but more from the virgo then the leo. Maybe it will be a good time to be a new me :)


Harriet 5 years ago

Just, fyi:

There was a reason why the ancients excluded 'ophiuchus'.

The same ancients that created such a system.

Just, fyi.

Also,consider truly the person you are, and the rest of your natal chart & it's aspects, and judge truly.

There's more to it than just the sun.

Last thing, but, could someone attempt to dispute the proofthat comes with, say, a person able to guess a person's sun-sign(in the terms of:oct 29th would be scorpio, not virgo),cause I'm struggling


Harriet 5 years ago

In addition to my last comment, I feel it necessary to mention that we are who we are, not what our sign depicts. It adds no further justification to a theory, if it appears to be in your favour, i.e. you are now of a sign that you wished to be. You're still the same person, regardless.

I tell you now, with an honest mind, that all the signs are of equal to myself, I have no preference.

YET, I know myself to a scorpio within. I'd say even if I was born march 19th, there is scorpio within me.


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char4u.com 5 years ago

I am a Scorpio according to old zodiac dates. thanks for writing.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

@ Harriet, this whole story gives some of us a rare oportunity to "choose" who we are in terms of zodiac. If our sign changed, the we can opt to choose the old zodiac and keep our sign or we can go with the new zodiac and have a new sign, unknown to us, maybe better. With this opportunity comes the chance to realy change ourself in order to meet the good side ao a new sign. I hope this helps. It looks that you know who you are and that's the most important thing.

@ char4u.com Lots of people that commented here are (were) scorpio. It looks like these changes had a big impact over this sign. Most of the time, scorpios are passionate lovely people. I hope they stay this way. Thanks for stipping.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

@eudociadavis, you are wellcome.

@Dawn, yes, this is a chance to reshape ourselves. I like leos. They are strong, hard working, they don't give up. Good luck.


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DevBlue 5 years ago from Mauritius

I have also been told that our birth date is very important because on that date the planets align themselves in a similar configuration every year,which is why on that date we should meditate on ourselves and try to absorb maximum energy from the planets.In my Hub on the new year date..... I have also written about the influence of planets on 14 April.


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cameciob 5 years ago Author

DevBlue, I have been a fan of zodiac ever since I was a kid. (I also wanted to be a star reader...which never happened). But your theory is very interesting. However, at this moment, it is largely accepted that January 1st is the first day of a new year and our social life if built around it. The same with the new zodiac.

Thanks for stopping.


huntingmoon 5 years ago

Pathetic!!!!

This is just another crap from the occult!!! trust me people they're liying: number 13 is consistant with the satanic symbolism!! you must not fall for it!!!

danm it they really are GOING TO FAR!!!!!!!!!


Aries 5 years ago

ok fyi just because the dates changed doesn't mean that your sign changed only for those born 2011 and after, not before, also yes you are who you are and we all can change into who we want to be, but just because the dates changed doesn't mean that you personally now have the traits of the other sign, that is rediculous, if that is what you believe then know that you are a poser of any sign you now try to be. be proud of who you are and don't try to be something your are not. i am not a pisces nor will i ever have the same traits as a pisces. i am a true Aries through and through. you don't get to change your skin color just because you thought you were african and turns out you were of german decent. all you did was bleach the skin. stop faking the funk people.


princesss 5 years ago

No the signs never changed and I don't believe it we still have twelve signs not thirteen 12 I'm not a Leo I'm a Virgo and I will always stay a virgo


princesss 5 years ago

No the signs never changed and I don't believe it we still have twelve signs not thirteen 12 I'm not a Leo I'm a Virgo and I will always stay a virgo............. I don't know why people believe it it will always stay twelve and for the person who wants to know if they are an cancer or a leo ur a leo. Grow up ppl u can't believe everything u hear !!!!!!!!!No changes in the astrology signs sorry ppl.


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Johnathan L Groom 5 years ago from Bristol, CT

while it is a terrific piece itself, the debate is null + void! the zodiac cannot be changed unless we publicize it... hugh hefner was dead for like almost a week too lol, but it turns out he's alive!

-greatwork!-

-johnathan-


Abdony Mezilus 5 years ago

I'm so proud of being a Libra, we are the best


Ophiuchus 4 years ago

Ophiuchus is the serpent. Known by many names including Lucifer. Ophiuchus is the siphon of life, the decay, the delusion and the deception. Ophiuchus is the lie that pretends to be light... until it bites.

Funny since I don't know when I was born... I am all.. and none.


... 4 years ago

Jeez people stop worrying, if you were born before these changes you stay with the same sign. The new zodiac only affect those born after the change


phillus maximus 4 years ago

This article should be corrected to 'return to the original zodiac' and not a new zodiac.

There are many theories for the leaving off this 13th sign, but it would be novel in size trying to explain everything.

Apart from the occult superstition and mythical tale surrounding the serpent bearer (Ophiuchus)itself, it had been left out for two main reasons. (1) Because of our modern calendar (12 months, 12 signs) and (2) people like the Zodiac the way it is and it would be extremely costly to change how it is now. As usual, it's money.

The zodiac dates shown with each sign are the days that the Sun happens to be in a certain star constellation and is what determines what sign you are to be linked. The most common Zodiac in use, the Tropical Zodiac, (which for the most part is the one that is used by newspapers and other such establishments), was created about 2000 years Ago.

There has always been twelve archetype symbols, from prehistoric times well before the occult groups misunderstood them or modern science changed them.

Recent attempts by modern science in creating a "thirteenth" constellation of the Zodiac, the Ophiuchus, has created a great rift with modern astrologers, who if they accept it, could not justify why their charts are so out of alignment.

This creates quite a dilemma for the astrologer to explain why all the "Signs of the Zodiac" are off by about one month, resulting in inaccuracy of their horoscope charting. As it will for anyone who uses it to forecast or predict the future in that manner.

The "sun sign," system has been out of kilter for the past few thousand years. Thus all those who believe they were born under a certain astrological sun sign, may not realize that it is not possible. When the Babylonians chose the twelve equally spaced "signs," each 30 degrees wide, even then they only approximately coincided with the constellations as to views of astronomers today.

As seen in the 1990's the sun, due to the precession of the equinoxes, has shifted to be two constellations off of its original position claimed by the Babylonian astrologers of 5th century B.C. Hence the push to "return" to the original 13 sign system.


achi 4 years ago

now i m no more libra....! I just love being libra, i don't want to change into virgo which is totally opposide of me. I m not against the sign virgo but it doesn't sound like me. Im so confuse can you help me.


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cameciob 4 years ago Author

hey achi, You may want to look into the virgo sign. It has some surprising characteristics.


Jessica 4 years ago

if you were born before the change then you stay what you were. if you are born after the new signs then you go by the new signs. kinda obvious. at least to me it is. common sense people, so don't complain about how you are a different sign when you're not. i take pride in being a taurus. even though some of the stuff is not accurate to me it's not a big deal because i was born on the 26th of april. the power of taurus isn't at it's full strength until the 27th due to being lapped over with aries for the first week amd lapped over with gemini for the final week. which makes sense because i have some qualities of aries. thank you for for this page, it was very helpful.


Cheri 4 years ago

I knew I had very few sagitarius characteristics but I am full blown capricorn . I was born on the cusp which would make me a sagicorn but I am more capricorn than anything else. and my chinese sign matches with my zodiac. in the chinese calendar I was born year of the dragon. which is more accurate with my zodiac seeing i do have the characteristics.


Kouji 4 years ago

I was born on March 16th.

I was lucky to not get a sign change.

pisces for life, man. ;D


Felicia 4 years ago

When i was born i was born late and in the old zodiac i was a Virgo and it really is me and with the dates i was supposed to be born i should have been a Leo but something must have made me be late so i can be a Virgo and be who i truly am ...


sam 4 years ago

U ppl really r stupid for believing they can just change something that has been the same since forever


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cameciob 4 years ago Author

sam, nothing stays the same forever. People change and get old, weather has seasons, animals go extinct...so the zodiac, because the cosmos changes as well...as the planet.


Mike 4 years ago

the zodiac only affects your sign when your born, so the zodiac may change just like the cosmos and the earths axis, but your original sign dosent change so if your a virgo, or a tarus, but the new zodiac says your something else, you don't change, just the zodiac changes


Ivi 4 years ago

I was an aries and now am pisces. I don't want 2 chnge ma sign. I don think i'm a pisces. Am just hoping the cosmo etc wud chnge again bt thanks 4 da info


may18,1987 4 years ago

Im a Taurus and still am hola cant take my zodiac sign. From me.


mybeloved 4 years ago

i always felt like a virgo. i never look sound or act like a libra i was too restrictive and critical trying to save ppl. and my last boyfriend seem like a scorpio than a sag. his love was too intense emotional insecure and possesive. i was like wheres the fun? care free, reckless fun, optimism shopping, ppl, etc. this part was missing. it was all work and home and not to much play. wow. spending time together was running errans. lol


mason 4 years ago

I used to be an Aries but now im a Pisces :c


Nicholas 4 years ago

Just to let everyone know, this is inaccurate to astrology. Yes the axis has shifted but the constellations themselves were never what was really important. The position of the sun comparable to the tilt and position of the earth is what makes you a certain sign, and that will never change. The constellations just happened to be where the sun went through back in the day. People have no idea what they are talking about. Tis a shame really, a wonderful science when understood correctly.


Kpratt 4 years ago

June 21 is Taurus or Gemini? .I've always been on the cusp


Samantha 3 years ago

How is anyone suppose to take you seriously when you cannot spell correctly, or get your facts straight. The constellations, according to astrologer and author, Steven Forrest, "refers to a certain phase in earth's orbit around the sun, or, more simply, to a certain season." I would suggest doing more research (and proofreading) before publishing to the internet.


Tinnia 3 years ago

What the what? Now I am an Aquarius? Not acceptable. I am not one of the person's who had a hard time with having my horoscopes being accurate. I am a Pisces 100%. How "cheesed" are the person's who tattooed their sign to their bodies going to be when they realize, such as I have, that they now fall under a different sign. The way I figure it, this may apply to ppl that are going to be born, but I don't think that it should change for those of us who have for many years known that we are.... Just a thought. Pisces for life!!!


Matthew Grima 3 years ago

Are people seriously getting confused on star signs? Do you actually believe that the position the earth was on the day you were born has any bearing on your character and what happens around you?

The only thing I can gather from people that believe this stuff is that they're gullible.


Dusty 3 years ago

I love how everyone gets preachy. I also love that before the commentators ascend onto their soap boxes they must first be-little the person they are trying to prove wrong. Going after spelling or Grammar....so adult like. Anyway preach all of you! Preach! No one gives a damn


*Anji'Q* 3 years ago

I was born as a scorpio and I'm only now descovering thes new zodiac stuff! I also love being a scorpio as it is me in every way but now that I go trough the libra traids I see that I have both scorpio and libra traids! So I am a bit confused under witch one do I settle! The mean, persuasive, resoursful, secretive scorpio or the romantic, paciant, social libra?


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cameciob 3 years ago Author

AnjiQ,

I think you should take the one you like the most. The thing is that this new zodiac is still disputed. So, until it settles We have the advantage to play with both zodiacs, the new zodiac and the old zodiac, and choose whichever we want.

FYI, libra is better. :)


Antronia 13 months ago

WHERE IS THE NEW ZODIAC? Its just a remake of the old. Both zodiacs are truly out of date, out of truth, stagnant & out of time. That universe no longer exists. Just like my old house its gone. My supposed new identity now is even less like me than before. The whole system needs to be put to rest. What I'm really waiting for is the TRUE NEW ZODIAC....

Its just around the corner folks. Cant wait.....


Kyle Harding 9 months ago

Good thing I'm still a Virgo and I've always seen myself as a romantic


John 40 hours ago

My old sign Sagittarius I feel describes me a lot but so does my new one in Scorpio but I was never truly into astrology. But I feel I have a lot of characteristics from both.

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