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Best Answer Rod Marsden says
Yes. Do let us keep church and state separated. If you really are an historian then do check out the French revolution and from it why the French today prefer to keep church and state separate.
That is the problem with government today, they had a nice short 10 law list and then decided that it was not good enough for their evil designed ways. So, the evil ones then declared them separate from the evil laws that were needed so - Evil grows.
Certainly makes for less paper work.
Okay. tbHistorian doesn't know how the Church supported the ruling classes despite the fact that the peasants were living in filth and starving and the king seemed to be powerless to act. Mixing religion with politics - now that's evil or can be.
The greatest nation in the world was created through Judeo Christian beliefs that the individual is the ruler of their own destiny and environment. best thing that could happen today is to eliminate politics and return to Judeo Christian principles
Depends on which country you're talking about tbHistorian. The USA was founded on no taxation without representation. Modern Britain on the Magna Carta - no one above the law . France - separation of state from religion. Religion had been misused.
The USA was created by Judeo Christians as a republican form of government based on civil liberties reserved to the individual. The separation of church and state is required so that the USA government does not create a church or deny it by law.
Forgive me tb, but I can't follow you - you are all over the place and I don't know what you are advocating, or what your point is.
Now tbHistorian you are for the separation of religion from state? And you are now also for the individual? Next you'll be saying the Magna Carta was a good thing.
the reason you think I am all over the place is that you just want to argue. I do not attempt to redefine the U.S. Constitution as others do. The words speak for themselves. There is no separation of church&state only a restriction on no law for
Okay. tbHistorian doesn't want to redefine the U.S. Constitution. Anyway it has already been done by better men in the amendments to it. Again tbHistorian seems to want religion in his politics.
Again Rod Marsden interprets incorrectly
I do not want politics to demand or deny religion
I do not want politics to remove religion from public places
I do not want politics to make any policy or law about religion
I demand freedom from unrighteous
Freedom from unrighteousness? Religion can be unrighteous enough. How about absolute rule by king because God says so or the Spanish Inquisition? We are better off separating state from religion.
Curious, I thought the French ran all the Christians out before the revolution. That is indeed separating church and state. But not where this is supposed to be going I apologize.
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I like balance, but I don't see any. Last year the CA legislature passed 800 laws, the governor signed most into law. I walk in the park without a sack to pick up my dogs business I have broken the posted law. There are dispensers all over.
Agreed. There is no balance. The amount of laws we have to comply with and the amount of red tape you have to deal with to get anything done is just crazy.
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Judy Specht says
A strange law. There would of had to of been a reason for it.
I agree with you that it is best to keep religion out of government. Over the last few years the French have been fighting to do just that - leave it out.
In the USA - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
This does not mean that individuals cannot display religious articles, wording, or personal bibles on government property.
Sure tbHistorian individuals can display religious articles, etc on government property but not in France. I believe the French have a good point.
I have been really slow here, it just occurred to me why I thought your answer was unsettling. How can a yes or no question be both? Do we need more laws or fewer? I do agree we need some laws.
Again Rod Marsden is incorrect. The Arc de Triomphe in Paris has 2 Christian crosses depicted upon it. It also contains several verses from the Christian Bible inside the building. also, French government buildings are adorned with cross windows
I never said the French people were not religious or Christian. They simply don't want to mix religion with government. You can have all the Christian symbols you want on the outside or projecting outward. I believe that is fair enough.
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