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They also create their own version of science which is based on supporting their beliefs. Hence not really science at all.
Some have created their own 'scientific truths' based on knocking people trying to find the truth through real science. Not science at all really since it has no basis in logic .
They would rather have someone tell them what the bible means instead of researching it for themselves. They are told they will be taken by Satan and burn in hell, which is not true at all. It is psychological abuse by the church.
I can't imagine what it is like to live in such fear of dying and hell that one would cling to the bible as if it were a life preserver and they were drowning. They don't READ the bible, they just believe it will save them from some unknown demon.
AS I used to belive all that too until I read th words in the Catholic Doctrine (that others use too) they must keep ppl in the dark at all costs. Asking questions is forbidden by church, but advised by Jesus. HUGE.contradiction there.
Fear of dying and of death is still with us and I can't imagine a time when it won't be. I'd rather cling to scientific fact than be so concerned with the afterlife that I'll believe anything.
Why do we even consider having an afterlife? No one has ever come back from being truly dead. It's not looking like anyone ever will either. Houdini swore he would 'come back', but nope. It's just another stage of existence. Like before birth.
Houdini also thought he had heard his mother's voice guiding him after she had died. I suppose we are afraid that there is nothing after death. We may never get to meet loved ones again.
Since there is no guarantee of seeing our loved ones again (after death), we should really try and treat them nicely in the here and now! :-)
I agree. But even so everyone wants to see their parents again no matter how well they were treated by their offspring. It is a natural desire. We fear emptiness more than a possibly fictional afterlife.
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Rod Marsden says
What you have stated is so true. Less educated + insecurity in many forms= adherence to organized religion.
Christians who have found a way to believe in the scientific truths of evolution & at the same time retain their faith are mistaken. Macro evolution is not a scientific fact. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in God.
Biblical Creationism is born out of scientific ignorance. All one has to do to confirm this is to visit a Creationist website like AIG. When an organization is committed to apologetics FIRST over science, it's obvious what the results will be.
Really rtb,so as usual you never argue the facts but attack the messenger.Evolution doesn't even qualify as a scientific theory&if you knew science you'd know that.
"Macro" and "Micro" evolution is a false dichotomy. It's a weak argument used by the scientifically ignorant. The majority of those in the scientific world do not use those terms because they know there's only superficial differences involved.
And what are your qualifications to say that rtb?My BA in Biology qualifies meto say basically, macroevolution is about big evolutionary changes,over long time periods that cannot be observed, microevolution is about smaller, more rapid changes.
Let's hear it for Michelle Obama! She refused to wear a 'head scarf' while in Saudi Arabia! LOL! I wonder what she would wear to a Saudi beach? If some man tried to tell me how to dress, he would have to find another friend to boss around!
Ah, Austinstar right on topic as usual...http://i0.wp.com/yourdogsfriend.org/wp-content/upl...
Also if you really knew what the bible holds you would know that the earth is under test and trial of Satan
He is the one causing many of the problems
People are supporting him and helping him destroy others and this planet.
This will soon end.
Who gets a BA in bioligy? Do you mean a BS? And RTB is right, why bother to answer kiss n tales Or tsad? Neither one of them makes any sense.
Again, the scientific world does not see a problem between macro and micro evolution because the difference are trivial. But I don't expect people who drool over pseudo-science creationist websites to know that. You can't fool those who know more, Ts
So is that your solution to the subjects discussed , still no solution , but you will stone the bible with all the solutions , no you could not convince me to take your advice or supporters.
Star,t he Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) curriculum is designed for students who want to pursue a career in a health-related profession(dentistry, medicine, pharmacy, or veterinary medicine)or those interested in training in an allied health field DUH!
To Tsadjatko I am sorry I missed this post that was deleted , I never seen the post at all, I did post on this subject some days ago
to another huber, A person who has no respect for God will not consider what the bible says on keeping healthy.
Wow! Such an explosion of various comments. Christians who have found a way to believe in evolution and retain their religious beliefs are not mistaken. And Robert the Bruce is right about Creationism ignorance. I would add arrogance.
Wow! So many comments! Christians who have found a way to accept the truths in evolution are okay in my book. I agree with Robert the Bruce that Creationism is ignorance personified. Also add arrogance.
Rod, If you are truly interested in the facts I trust you'll read this. http://creation.com/exploring-evolution-origin-lif... If you won't it's you who has to live with your hypocrisy. It explains how Theistic evolutionists are mistaken.
Took a look. The usual simple minded Creationist nonsense. It seems the Monkey Trial of the 1920s is still on for the Bible-bashers.
Well that's all monkeys can do they take a look, they can't begin to comprehend.
Monkeys can learn and they have the capacity to be inventive. Maybe not in the same league as my fellow humans but they no doubt do better than Creationists in terms of thinking outside the box or book.
Gentlemen, each one of you are entitled to your synopsis of the situation at hand. Each one is right in his own purview. Please cease this argumentation. Please accept that each has a right to his belief. Thank you kindly.
Well I reckon I can evolve in that direction gmwilliams.
THANK YOU x 3. The question section is when one states his/her synopsis of the situation at hand & the other person states HIS/HER synopsis. The person has a right to a different purview. We may not agree but let's not argue. Live & LET LIV
Live and let live sounds pretty good.
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I'll disagree here. Only faith in the bible leads to knowledge? So what about all the other 1ST world nations that have just as much knowledge and technological growth as the U.S? This is the problem with religion. It discounts all points of view.
So you like to twist what is said and take it out of context."faith in the bible leads to knowledge"is not the same as"The unbeliever has only 'blind faith' but the Christian's faith in the Bible makes knowledge possible."Totallydifferentmeaning
Good point, Fred. Christians often claim to have a corner on the truth because they "fear God" and we don't. I used to believe that, but have since gained better understanding. It's not difficult to disprove that absurd and arrogant claim.
So Fred, is the best you can do is take statements out of context to make your point? The Bible doesn't discount points of view, the facts, the truth proves whether a point of view is valid or not. The Bible is truth.
I listen to many views ! But none can match up to God's views and prophesy, A human life span can not cover all issues of this world .
when the bible has covered all generations at once as studied, our history books have shown this to be true.
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Daniel Abram says
Poverty and warfare that continues for too long will create religious fanatics. This is why ISIS and al qaeda are the way they are.
V.Usha Naga Manjari says
A fascinating take on the subject.
Kiss andTales says
Ah yes. The brother sun and sister moon argument. True scientific study does not diminish the creator of all in anyone's eyes. Both science and religion can have their place without one making less of the other.
Even though there are hundredths of contradictory points within the Bible?
To Fred when you say contradiction , it is your experience and believe, but it is not others experience.
Example of a puzzle with many pieces , will this become the picture it was meant to be
is there a piece missing,the bible has no contradiction
If your reading skills are equal to your writing skills, I understand why you never read other books and why you also fail to understand basic investigative thought. But you should know the bible isn't the only book in the world with 'truth' in it!
Austinstar, you probably already know this, but it's not worth it to respond to Kiss and Tales' answers. They are most often unintelligible, unprovable, and irrelevant to the discussion. In other words, a waste of valuable time.
I've noticed that, yes. But I hope to encourage her to read a new book or two. Fruitless, I'm sure. But, I am ever the optimist!
To you both why do you read my post , I will not read yours as respected nor reply again to You. For your thinking is limited to this world .I seek higher and I am pleased with the results of truth. You are the ones that are insecure.Iam not
Oh, maybe you need a tinfoil hat to reduce those 'cosmic' rays then. If you filter out the 'other worldly' interference, you might be able to focus on this planetary communications. Give it a shot.
If this suggestion would make me like you and your supporters .I see no gain , I see no pogress, nor wisdom , for you only have criticized issues , not solved any problems
the bible has the cure in it . You do not.
And which problems have the bible solved? How many diseases has the bible cured? How many deaths has the bible encouraged? How has the bible explained our planetary system?
That is why you do not know the Bible ! All the things you have listed is what man has done to himself, if a purposely takes a car and run into his own house would the insurance company pay? Why should God save people who do want to be saved
Kiss, when austinstar said atheists like her are trying to stop Jehovah Witnesses from denying their children blood transfusions when I asked what dhe was doing she deleted my comment. Rest assured you are not the incoherent one is not you.
Seriously, K&T You really need to work on your communication skills. You blather on about things that only exist in your head. You need professional help, so I will take RTB's advice and stop talking to you.
Really talking is listening and coming to an agreement , there has never been that on this subject of you two, instead there has been ridicules from the two of You ! It does not hurt to take the advice you give to others. Have a good day!
Scientists work with facts. They are of this world. The theory of evolution is based on an accumulation of data. The Bible is based in part on history and in part on myth. Also in the belief in the world after death.
tsad - I am tired of you misconstruing everything I say and repeating it all over HP. I will no longer speak to you either and if you keep harassing me I will report you. Yes, I will delete your comments whenever I have the opportunity to do so.
Then don't delete my comments & then lie as to why you delete them which is exactly what you do, others have attested to it & I can prove it because I copied all the comments so when you report me be ready to explain your slanders of me to th
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