Did the Earth Move for You or Was That Really an Earthquake ? a Tremor at Least !

New Tremor Felt

Another Tremor

Update 19 - 07 - 2012

Well Victoria is getting a reputation of the 'shaky state'. Maybe we should call it "The State that Moves"?

Another tremor reported at a 5.2 strength (now updated to a 5.5 strength) hit Victoria about 8.55 pm (Australian Eastern Standard Time) and some say it lasted for about 30-40 seconds.

At this point of time the epicentre is said to be around the Moe area which is in the South Eastern part of the state. No reports of serious damage as yet!

Update on Tremor 05-07-2011

Well folks it happened again, around 11.30 am today (15 minutes ago) the Earth moved again!

Another major (for us anyway) Tremor struck Victoria and made our house shake quite a bit.

At first I thought it was the wind (it had been blowing at up around 90 or so Kph) but at that time there was a lull.

First the windows started to rattle and the thought went through my head "This is odd the trees are not swaying with the wind". Then the chair I was sitting on started to rock sideways and I thought again " This is not the wind we are having another Tremor, I hope that is does not get any worse". Visions quickly flashed through my mind of the recent Natural Disasters in Japan and New Zealand.

The Tremor lasted for about 15 seconds or so but it sure seemed longer than that at the time!

Reports have put the Epicentre in the same location, Korumburra in Gippsland, as the last tremor I felt with a 4.4 intensity. I will update this as more news comes forward.

Did the Earth Move or What

I just have get this off my chest and tell you that last night, for me the Earth moved .

If you are thinking that this may be a hot, sexual tale you can stop reading right here!.

The Earth literally did move, we had an Earthquake of the ground shaking variety.

Just before 9pm I was talking to my good mate Ern, who writes Hubs as “Ernestshub”.

Ern is also the chap who introduced me to HubPages.

We were chatting away on Skype(as you do) about Erns new venture at “Ern's Choice Software” a website were he will be supplying a range of software and is a new venture for him, when WHAM!!!!.

“F**k what was that?” I said.

By the time I had that brilliantly elucidated piece of Strine out of my mouth Ern had also felt the Quake.

The first thoughts that came to my mind were that perhaps a truck had smashed into our place or a tree had fallen due the drought and hit the house. My first reaction was to make sure that the family had suffered no injuries and property not been damaged. Everything OK on that front.

For the Technically minded of you , the Quake measured 4.7 on the Richter Scale and its Epicenter was just near a beautiful little Country Town called Korumburra about 70km (45miles approximately from my place. From what I have been able to learn up to this stage, anything higher on the scale can start causing serious structural damage , injury or loss of life.

The Seismologic Graph of our Earthquake
The Seismologic Graph of our Earthquake


Reports

Dean Collard says he was working at a service station in Korumburra when the earthquake struck.

"All the shop walls were going back and forth - we had a lot of stuff fall off the shelves, all of the auto section went," he said.

"We had a couple of customers in the store at the time - a lady's just started feeling the earthquake, bolted for the door screaming 'we're all going to die!'

"It was pretty comical, but at the time fairly serious."

ABC Online reader Heather Redmond, who lives at Seaview approximately 20 kilometres north of Korumburra, says last night's earthquake follows a less severe tremor felt in the region about a month ago.

"There was quite a load roar and the house shook that much that the heavy arm chairs we were sitting in moved," she said.

"The walls were moving also - it lasted about 30 seconds.

"There were several after shocks and I felt a smaller tremor at 3:00am [AEDT] today."

ABC Online reader Karen Layland, from Lock Village about 10 kilometres from Korumburra, also felt a second tremor.

"We had a tremor about 8.54pm and it lasted for a few seconds sending plates smashing as the dish rack fell on the floor," she said.

"It was very scary, sending my dog in a panic - I didn't know what had happened.

"We had a smaller one between 2.00am and 3.00am which shook the whole house waking me up, scared again."

Last night's earthquake was Victoria's strongest since 2001, when a 4.8 magnitude tremor was felt in Swan Hill, near the Victorian-New South Wales border.

The area in Newcastle NSW affected by the 1989 Earthquake
The area in Newcastle NSW affected by the 1989 Earthquake


Newcastle Earthquake

It is very unusual for Australia to experience earthquakes , although we did have a very serious quake in Newcastle in 1989 at a magnitude of 5.6 on the Richter Scale.

At the time it was one of Australia's most serious natural disasters, killing 13 people and injuring more than 160 others, and the damage bill has been estimated at A$4 billion ,including an insured loss of about A$1 billion. A lot of money in 1989.

The earthquake caused damage to over 35,000 homes, 147 schools, and 3,000 commercial and other buildings, with significant damage caused to 10,000 homes (damage worth over A$1000) and 42 schools (structural damage), within the immediate Newcastle area.

The Newcastle earthquake was the first Australian earthquake in recorded history to claim human lives.

Coincidence or What?

I don't know if it was a coincidence or not but “Geoscience Australia” seismologist Phil Cummins says the quake was one of three similar tremors that struck yesterday.

"There was one that occurred up near Broome on the North West coast of Western Australia and one that occurred near the town of Beacon which is located about 340 odd km North East of Perth in the Western Australian wheatbelt," he said.

"Those were both close to magnitude five ... They occurred in remote areas so they were felt by far fewer people than this one.

"It is quite remarkable that we get three of roughly this size in one day. An earthquake of this size typically happens maybe twice a year in Australia."

Insurance Coverage

Up to this point of time there have been no reports of major damage.

It will be very interesting to see how many insurance claims will eventuate out of this and how many will be classed as pre-existing damage?

Most earthquake insurance policies feature a high deductible, or excess as its known in Australia, which makes this type of insurance useful if the entire home is destroyed, but not useful if the home is merely damaged. Rates depend on location and the probability of an earthquake.

Poseidon as depicted in a sculpture at Copenhagen
Poseidon as depicted in a sculpture at Copenhagen
Loki the God as shown in a line drawing
Loki the God as shown in a line drawing

Earthquakes in Mythology

In Greek mythology, Poseidon was the god of and cause earthquakes. When he was in a bad mood, he would strike the ground with a trident, causing this and other calamities. He also used earthquakes to punish and inflict fear upon people as revenge. Just the sort of guy you need to rule your country.

The stature shown here is how he may have appeared to we mere mortals.

Now there is a guy you would not want to “piss off”!

In Norse mythology

In Norse mythology, earthquakes were explained as the violent struggling of the god Loki. When Loki, god of mischief and strife, murdered Baldr, god of beauty and light, he was punished by being bound in a cave with a poisonous serpent placed above his head dripping venom.

Loki's wife Sigyn stood by him with a bowl to catch the poison, but whenever she had to empty the bowl the poison would drip on Loki's face, forcing him to jerk his head away and thrash against his bonds, causing the earth to tremble. They should bring that punishment back for murder, what do you think?

How an Earthquake occurs on the ground
How an Earthquake occurs on the ground
Diagram of an early Seismograph
Diagram of an early Seismograph


What is an earthquake?

Very simply put an earthquake is what happens when two blocks of the earth suddenly slip past one another. The surface where they slip is called the fault or fault plane. The location below the earth’s surface where the earthquake starts is called the hypocenter, and the location directly above it on the surface of the earth is called the epicenter.

Sometimes an earthquake has foreshocks. These are smaller earthquakes that happen in the same place as the larger earthquake that follows. Scientists can’t tell that an earthquake is a foreshock until the larger earthquake happens. The largest, main earthquake is called the mainshock. Mainshocks always have aftershocks that follow. These are smaller earthquakes that occur afterwards in the same place as the mainshock. Depending on the size of the mainshock, aftershocks can continue for weeks, months, and even years after the mainshock!

The diagram shows an early Seismograph a measuring instrument for detecting and measuring the intensity and direction and duration of movements of the ground (such as an earthquake)


There is more interesting information at::-

United States Geological Survey (USGS)

We just had another Earthquake

18/03/2009 Wed.

Just to let you know about 4.30 this afternoon we had another Earthquake.

It felt about as strong as the last one but it seemed to last a bit longer than the earlier one. There is no reports of damage.

According to an "expert" on the radio it is unusual to get two earthquakes with the same epicenter so close together?


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Rochelle Frank 7 years ago from California Gold Country

Born and grown in Sothhern California-- Yes I have felt many.  (I have an earthquake hub) . But when they occur in areas that are not accustomed to such events, they  probably seem quite distressing. 

Where I lived we always thought that a little shake meant that some stress was being relieved, preventing a destructive  event (or else, there was a BIG  one some distance away).


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Rochelle Frank, Thanks Rochelle I must catch up with your Hub, of course you are correct about not being accustomed to such events. We do actually have numerous tremors here, apparently because our state (Victoria) is riddled with old extinct Volcanoes. ( a bit like me in a way).

The shock to us may also have been more noticable because we have been under a lot of tension with our recent Wildfire events. For anyone interested I have a Hub on the wildfires.

Rochelle I believe that the Scientists do espouse that theory of relieving the pressure by lots of smaller tremors!

Rochelle thanks for dropping by, its nice to see you again. :-[)


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Rochelle Frank 7 years ago from California Gold Country

Yes, after what you have been through with the fires-- I can understand the sensitivity and trepidation.  We have had some local fires of our own-- a few months ago in the local foothills. Multiple disasters set us all on edge.

 Being a bit wary is a wake-up call, but sleep depredation is a lot different.

 Hope all is well with you, I know a lot of people near you (and in many places) are dealing with a lot of difficult issues.


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Sufidreamer 7 years ago from Sparti, Greece

4.7! Call that an earthquake, you big Australian wuss! I cause a bigger seismic shift when I fart.

Seriously, though, we can understand that the fires have everybody a little on edge. If you are not used to earthquakes, even more so.

Hope that everybody is bearing up well over there. :)

Off to check your wildfire Hub for the latest news.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Rochelle thanks for your kind thoughts, my family and I have not been physically affected by any of the events of the prior weeks. You are so right about the sleep deprivation scenario. "Things always seem worse when you have not had sufficient sleep".

Unfortunately the Wildfires are still having affects on the community even though there is only one fire still unconrolled but presents no threat.


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Rochelle Frank 7 years ago from California Gold Country

I understand-- We have friends who were evacuated for a week-- but their house and most of ther property came through. Everyone kones someone--- or knows someone who knows someone.

Here in the N hemisphere we are looking forward to the change of seasons to warmer-- I am sure you are looking of the opposite change.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Sufidreamer how are ya doin'?

Ha, Ha, Ha, very funny!!!

Where were you when we had that Tsunami a few years back. Mate,we can take a good joke on ourselves, now all you have to do is find one!.

Seriously though thanks for your concern we aren't about to let little things like wildfire , earthquakes keep us down.

Btw we are about to be hit by a massive Cyclone in Queensland . Oh well!

hooroo for now


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AEvans 7 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

I lived in California and have been in a couple of those I don't care for them and they instill fear in me. Thank you for writing this article and giving us your experiences and thoughts about this.. Wonderful Hub:)


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Rochelle,

My personal choice of weather is coming up now, what we call Autumn , I believe you call it Fall. Today is pretty good, nice sunshine ,slight breeze 22C (65F) I'd be happy with that all of the time. But I hope you get your wish for warmer weather.


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Sufidreamer 7 years ago from Sparti, Greece

Grand, thanks.

That's the Aussie spirit that we know and love!

We don't have to look far to find a joke - the ritual slaughter of the English cricket team, during the Ashes, is black humour at its best!

Never heard anything about the cyclone - that really is insult to injury. :( Queensland is a place that I would love to visit - it looks beautiful. Hope that the cyclone does not cause too much damage - your country has suffered enough tragedy.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

AEvans, it is nice to see you again and I must say your avatar is a beautiful image. I do not think I could live in an area where there is a constant fear of a very major earthquake. The one we experienced was not scary in the truest sense of the word, but it did give everyone a shake. Its one of those events where you will always remember what you were doing at the time it happened.

I do appreciate your words of kindness.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Sufidreamer, you obviously have not heard what we are doing to the South Africans in the Test Cricket at Durban . I don't want to mention it to Sixtyorso so it's just between you and me, OK.

Iv'e put in a link to our weather bureau fyi to have a look at the cyclone off the Queensland coast, it's not looking very good for them!

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat....


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Christoph Reilly 7 years ago from St. Louis

Hey Ag:  Feeling an earthquake is a freaky experience.  I live along the New Madrid fault - a big one - but we have mercifully been spared for almost 200 years from anything serious.  A couple of years ago, I woke up with the house shaking and was like...wtf?  They say when it goes big time it will be a huge disaster, since we haven't built our buildings to withstand quakes, plus lots of brick which doesn't do well at all.  Not to mention that it crosses the Mississippi river which could go bye-bye.

Glad everyone is Ok in your part of the world.  Wouldn't that be just the thing - after the fires...sheesh.


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Anna Marie Bowman 7 years ago from Florida

I have never felt an earthquake and can't imagine how scary it was!! I have been through tornados before, and now that I have moved to Florida, will have to contend with hurricanes. I imagine I will be writing about my first experience with one of those! I am glad that everyone is ok! First the fires, and now this! We have had our own share of fires, though on a much smaller scale, lately due to the very dry weather and windy days.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Chris, I think we are over the worst of our problems in Victoria but apparently this little "Cylcone Hamish" that is developing in Queensland could be as powerful as "Katrina" was in your neck of the wood.

I had a look at that there New Madrid Fault of yours, and it looks down right dangerous, one Quake even made the old Mississippi flow backwards?

For any one interested here is the link from USGS

http://quake.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid...

Your could finish up to be another Island State mate?

Cheers!


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Christoph Reilly 7 years ago from St. Louis

I know. I like the idea of ocean front property!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Just make sure it is double storey????


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Amanda Severn 7 years ago from UK

Hi Ag,

We get earthquakes here in the UK, too. Seriously! Mostly they're experienced as noise, followed by any loose masonery wobbling a little. I know that we have had worse, but certainly not in recent times.

My brother is in NZ, and he tells me that the houses are constructed specifically to weather the odd tremor. I expect they are in Australia, too. Any how, I'm glad you're all ok!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Amanda Severn , hi how are you doin'? Earthquakes in the UK Noooo! That's probably why my Mum and Dad migrated. LOL

As far as I know there is no earthquake specification for houses in Australia, although I believe every State has a requirement covering cyclones.

I would say at a guess that 80-90% of homes built in Victoria are what we call Brick Veneer which is not earthquake proof.

Amanda, Thanks for your kind thoughts. :-[)


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Anna Marie Bowman , I'm surprised that you are getting fires at this time of the year in Florida. We are heading into Autumn which is my favorite time of year.

As I said above our Cyclone Hamish looks like turning nasty within the next few days.

Thanks for your concern it seems as though our bushfire dangers are passed for this year and I'll be compiling a final update on the bushfire Hub.


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JamaGenee 7 years ago from Central Oklahoma

OMG ag! First wildfires, then an earthquake, and now a cyclone that may rival Katrina. What a range of disasters! Think I'm glad to live where a direct hit by a tornado or an ice storm is the worst that can happen. But I once lived in St Louis and experienced a bit of the New Madrid fault. Once was enough for me. No damage to our house, but a pretty scary 45 seconds! Not the sort of earth moving I'd want to experience again!


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Proud Mom 7 years ago from USA

Tornados? Yes. Earthquakes? No.

You've been on a wild ride, my friend. Glad to hear everything was okay on the homefront!


pgrundy 7 years ago

We've actually felt a few up north here. We had one a year or two ago that was 5.something--but it didn't last long. Our dog woke us up barking about 4 am and we couldn't figure out what his problem was, am then later we learned that was when it hit. And the dog was the only one who woke up for it!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

JamaGenee, G'day mate thanks for dropping in,

Fortunately for us this time the Cyclone is up in the Northern end of the Country but I certainly feel for them. I just checked and it is still Cat 4 with wind in region of 250 km/h (about 150mph). The area is very popular for tourists and I heard that about 2000 were being evacuated.

That New Madrid fault looks pretty scary , I would prefer to live on more solid ground, and any earth moving would have to be the metaphoric one. ;-[)


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ajcor 7 years ago from NSW. Australia

Looks pretty awful for the Queenslanders at the moment - I saw where they are taking the tourist/visitors off a number of islands while the staying there die-hards are stockingup with food and water etc...Glad the Victoria is finally settling down although I read where some of the children are really suffering from post traumatic stress and hiding under piles of clothing and school bags at school - how terrible is that! poor little mites and of course it is so hard for everyone else who went through it - are you pleased Christine Nixon is at the helm? Thanks for this hub ag - very informative....cheers.

No earthquakes - I have only been through the odd flood, and a hurricane when I was living in Qld., and a fire while we were at the coast and while the 2002 Canberra fires were an hour away from us and it was scary but it most definitely was not as bad as it was for my brother and his family who lost all., cheers


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ajcor 7 years ago from NSW. Australia

AG did you see this? -good news for the Queenslanders - Weather forecasters say tropical cyclone Hamish is unlikely to hit the Queensland coast as it continues to whip up huge tides from the state's north to the Wide Bay region. The storm is still classified as category 4, but the Bureau of Meteorology says it is weakening. At about 5am AEST it was 230 kilometres north-east of Yeppoon and moving slowly south parallel to the central Queensland coast. Wind gusts of up to 100 kilometres per hour are still expected to hit areas between Yeppoon and Hervey Bay in the next 24 hours. High tides could cause localised flooding in the Wide Bay region. Weather bureau forecaster Ann Farrell says the system has weakened and is not likely to make landfall at all. got this from the abc website cheers


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Proud Mom

Yes we are a resiliant lot we humans, it will not take long for us to return to normal . It is the poor "buggers" who have to cope with losing family members and rebuild their lives from scratch that we have to worry about!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

pgrundy. Pam thanks for dropping by, dogs seem very sensitive to this type of event, just before our quake our dog was barking his nuts off for no apparent reason. As soon as the quake was over he bolted and got in his kennel.

So you can honestly say that the night the earth moved for you , you slept through it. Aww poor hubby! ;-{0


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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia

Agvulpes, you are the master of disaster!

Reporting that is. Yes I was in Chelsea on the bay in Melbourne. The concrete floor shook, my monitors waved about a bit and I wondered how close it was. We have had a pretty full time lately.

You didn't just make an earthquake so you could keep reporting disasters did you?


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

aj, how are you doin? Thanks for the update and its great to see the cyclone heading out to sea. You can check the movement directly at the BOM:-

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat....

and follow the links for the Paths etc.

With regards to the Bushfires, I think that Christine Nixon is a good choice as long as her hands are not tied and she is allowed to get on with the job.

The poor kids are the ones that will be suffering , they have lost family, mates, pets, everything they own and that is a big hurdle that has to be tackled very carefully. I have a friend who has been working as a councellor in the area , and she herself has become traumatised at the enormity of the task.

I may have to do a follow up Hub to keep up to date , any thoughts on that.


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ajcor 7 years ago from NSW. Australia

Delete this if I am repeating myself...but the previous comment seems to have disappeared..the gremlins have struck again...I think ag that your idea of a followup hub is very good..and if I come across any links that could be of use would you like me to email them to you for your inclusion or use? cheers a.


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B.T. Evilpants 7 years ago from Hell, MI

You guys sure are having rough time, lately! glad yu're hanging tough, ag.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

earnestshub, does that make me "agvulpes MD" ? lol

No mate I have had my fill of disasters thanks very much , its back to the simple life for me . I'm going to put my Foxcape back in the cupboard!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

B.T.

Thanks mate, nice to see you, I have not been around much lately but things are settling down OK for us.

Thanks for dropping by! :-[)


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moonlake 7 years ago from America

Small or large I don't like earthquakes. I can sure understand anyone getting upset over it. I also hate tornadoes spent many a night in shelter riding out bad tonado weather.

enjoyed your hub


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

aj, I don't think you repeated anything, Hubpages seems to be operating a bit funny at the moment .

That would be great if you see something of interest. The original Hub I feel is getting too long. I feel also that a bit more optimise in a new Hub would be appropriate. My email is open in the "contact agvulpes" box above. I have another less busy one I'll give you when you contact me if that is ok. Hooroo for now!


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ajcor 7 years ago from NSW. Australia

OK..will do when I see something of interest to you ..


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Christa Dovel 7 years ago from The Rocky Mountains, North America

The first three earthquake I was in didn't bother me. I thought they were kind of fun, but two months ago we had a 4.3, and I completely freaked out. It could have had something to do with my husbands proclamation that it wouldn't bother him if everything fell apart (speaking of the economy) only moments before the quake hit. Either way, it was NO fun! The sound of it was as frightening as the shaking.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Christa.

G'day thanks for dropping in and commenting. I guess you must have thought God was sending you a message. Did your husband apologise by any chance?

I hope you have a sense of humor, and I"m sure you must have with all those fellas around but I think that is one funny story. Its almost like saying "If that is not true may I be struck down by lightning".


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Hovalis 7 years ago from Australia

I had relatives in Newcastle and in the Hunter Valley during the Newcastle Earthquake. They described the quake as being like a semitrailer hitting the house (my aunt in New Lambton) to "It felt like a semi trailer going past you on the highway at full speed" (that whoosh feeling) further up the valley at Singleton. My sister, working in the QVB in Sydney felt the building rock and the chandeliers started swaying. She thought there'd been a crash at Town Hall station. All that happened on the mid-north coast around Kempsey was a power failure (we were holidaying on the coast from there at the time). And then we spent the afternoon trying to get hold of all our relatives to make sure they were ok...

The only one I've ever felt also originated at a 5.2 in the Hunter Valley and it felt (in Sydney) like someone pushing on the back of the lounge. There, and gone. It was a weird feeling, since we are (mostly) tectonically stable. It feels vastly different to the feel of a controlled explosion or the 'big guns' being fired at the local infantry training centre.


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Christa Dovel 7 years ago from The Rocky Mountains, North America

Thank Agvulpes!  My husband never apologized -- he just rushed around to make sure everyone was okay, but I did let him know that it was not okay with me!  (I think he has re-thunk his position since then.) 

BTW:  An acquaintance has let us know that that earthquake was God talking to him... Answering some request.  Anyway, I think that guy needs to start looking for falling stars and quit disturbing the rest of us. (We were hanging out with him when the second to last one hit, and he took that one personally too.)


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

hovalis,

thanks for that narration, it would have been a truly terrifying ordeal to go through an earthquake of that magnitude.

I don't know what it is about earthquakes, could it be that you feel it coming up through your feet and your subconscious is telling you "this should not be happening the ground is solid and does not move"?

Thanks again for sharing your experience!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Christa Dovel, I'm glad to see your hubby did the "right thing" so to speak.

As for your aquaintance , it sure must have been SOME sort of "request" to be answered with an Earthquake.???

Hypothetically speaking, If I were to believe in "God" I would see him as a loving God who does no harm to we mere mortals, and it is just the quirks of nature that cause all of the natural disasters. Not to mention the evil humans? who wreak terror on their own kind!

I quite often see falling stars in our sky , but never once have I regarded them as anything but falling stars?? and a beauty to behold.


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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia

Agvulpes, congratulations on your expert status.... and your twentieth hub!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

earnestshub, thanks for that , so I'm officially an expert, funny I don't feel different than I did yesterday! Oh well only 80 more to become an ALL STAR!

btw do I get one of those nice shiny medals you got when you hit 100 fans?


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gwendymom 7 years ago from Oklahoma

AG, I glad to hear that you and your family are ok, once again. Oklahoma city had a small quake yesterday at 3.7. I could not feel anything here, I live about 3-5 to 4 hours drive from there, but Oklahoma is not known for earthquakes. As a child I did experience one in Colorado, I don't know how big it was I just remember playing on the playground and feeling it shake. It was pretty scary. I hope I never have to experience another.


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countrywomen 7 years ago from Washington, USA

Agvulpes- I hope everyone you know is safe. That was good scientific intro along with Greek Gods info. We never know when something happens. Has the police/authorities found the root cause for the fires earlier? My prayers and best wishes are there with you. May you live, your wife and everybody you love stay for a long long time and spreading the happiness all around.

Btw I hope those genuine insurance claims are processed.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

gwendymom, Hi I think your comment was hiding from me!

They say that it is always the kids that are most affected by all these events, and it seems to stick in their minds for the rest of their lives. I can remember a tremor when we were young and I can still recall exactly where I was standing.

At least I think I can? LOL


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

countrywomen,

Thankyou for your nice comment. The Government has set up a Royal Commission into the Fire situation, which is an all encompassing inquiry with strong powers.

Some locations still have not been cleared due to Police investigation, it may be weeks before residents are allowed back in to start rebuilding.

I have heard that some insurance claims are being fast tracked to get people moving.

countrywomen I am touched deeply by the sincerity in your prayers and good wishes and thank you from the bottom of my heart.


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countrywomen 7 years ago from Washington, USA

Agvulpes- Thanks for updating me. I hope if those fires were due to human mischief then such folks should be severely dealt with. How can we all not pray/wish for you when you are so caring for others. In difficult times like this I hope everyone comes together and realize about the value of love, life and happiness in being alive and appreciate the finer things in life which we so often take for granted. Please do keep updating about the progress of the fires and the present earthquake recovery. Have a great day. Btw Australia is playing very well in South Africa (at least something to cheer about).


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

countrywomen, two men have been arrested and charged with very serious charges and will face court at a later date. Police are still gathering evidence on one major fire and another fire appears to have started from a Power Line Pole collapse, and residents are sueing the Government and Power Company.

I will be publishing  a follow up Hub on what is happening now that the fires are under control. There has been a great out pouring of love and comradeship throughtout Australia for the victims, and there is new announcements every day of help to get the victims back into their homes.

I do believe we beat the South Africans? ( Where is Sixtyorso?) LOL

 


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countrywomen 7 years ago from Washington, USA

Agvulpes- Yes those responsible for it should be strictly dealt with but again those acts like the power company(I am not sure of the full facts) if after following due diligence some untoward accidents happen then they shouldn't be equally charged. I mean if something was an intentional malicious act then certainly those responsible for such a tragedy have to be taken to task. Yes in times of crisis we all do come closer but the human loss can never ever be forgotten/recovered from. Btw as they say it requires more sportsmanship in victory than in defeat and I know for sure you are a true sportsman and will be gracious towards sixtyorso whenever you do get to discuss this ...hehe


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

countrywomen , an old saying comes to mind, something about "sometimes the law can be an ass". lol But I have faith in our justice system and I feel that most times the correct verdict is reached ( I'm just not too sure about the sentence though) so I will leave it up to the courts to decide who is guilty and who is innocent.

Sixtyorso does seem rather conspicuous for his absence. lol

We do have an old adage I am sure that what invented in India. goes something like "Winners are grinners, losers can please themselves!"

As always countrywomen having discussions with you is always a pleasure.


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quicksand 7 years ago

Hi AG!

We've seen pix e-mailed by friends who live over there. Saw these on TV too. Hope everthing will be alright and remain that way.

As for Loki, he is supposed to be Thor's half-brother. I would certainly not like to be in Thor's shoes if I had even a quarter brother such as the likes of Loki.

If you read Marvel Comics, you will find that Baldr is still around.

That pix of the seismograph was great! Thanks fot the hub. :)

Cheers!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

quicksand, thanks for your kind thoughts. I'd like to reassure you that everything is now fine and the out look is very positive. There is a lot of work being done behind the scenes, to help the victims.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

18/03/09 We had another earthquake today!

update above


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countrywomen 7 years ago from Washington, USA

Agvulpes- OMG!! Another earthquake. Hope you are ok and everyone in your family/friends are also safe.  I just saw you in another hub that you had a tryst with a tasty "chick" last night. How are you? Even I enjoy conversation with you and since you love tea/biscuits then in person I would enjoy it even more. Btw you have every reason to sport that big wide "grin" and hope it stays for a long time (don't tell my brother that though for some reason he considers "aussies" as arrogant/rude which I don't understand even if a few players really indulge in sledging). You and many others are the warmest aussies one could ever meet. I am so happy to meet you all. Have a great day.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

countrywomen.

Everything is OK with us there was no injuries or serious property damage.

My tryst with the chick last night was most enjoyable from my angle but I do believe that the "chick" was a bit cut up about the outcome!

I think your brother has the wrong impression about we Aussies, I believe because we are the shy retiring types that we are , we come across as aloof and arrogant.

Countrywomen it would indeed give me immense pleasure to be able to share with you a cuppa and Tim Tam biscuits.

You also have a great day, mine is just starting.

btw Tomorrow we are going away for a week to my favorite spot . Lakes Entrance (If you like you can refresh your memory on my Hub)


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sixtyorso 7 years ago from South Africa

Hi Ag took a bit of time to get around to this one. We used to have lots of tremors (minor quakes) in Guateng. This was due to pressure bursts from mining activity but this has quietened down in recent times. We had a pretty severe quake in Ceres in the Cape that flattened buildings and did a lot of damage,som years back. The cradle of civilisation (Maropeng) and Sun City are sited in or near extinct volcanoes . Sorry you are taking a bit of strain between fires and tremors!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

sixty, thanks mate swmbo and yours truly are taking a relaxing holiday at Lakes Entrance and I am using the Bowling Clubs puter at the moment.

From what I can remember SA always gave me the impression of being a "newer" geo country , with all the pristine mountains and escarpments, it sure is an exiting looking country. I can't place where "Guateng" is located?

Is Maropeng where there found "the missing link" just can't think of the guys name?


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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

Great opening line and it is clever to see how you and ernst are both playing with the minds of search engines, I love it!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

SweetiePie, thanks very much coming from an old hand like yourself I take that as a compliment. Ern and I are basicly trying to do the same thing in a different way. I have noticed that you do your share of experimenting.  We are more trying to work out the algorithm than trick it. We feel that if you try to trick Mr.Google he will just change the formula?

I would love to hear your comments on that one?

You new avatar is once again very nice!


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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

Agvulpes, Wow, I never said that. I do not think Google changes anything,and I was only joking. I think you do not get me much, but I forgive you :).


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

SweetiePie, you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Sometimes one writes things in a certain way and they are as clear as a bell in ones own mind but when the other person reads the message it is like Pea Soup to them.

Are you forgiving me for not getting you very much, because I think I get you pretty well. (as much as any man can get any woman) (Mars v Venus) . I am only teasing you!

I did not mean to say that you said anything about Google I was talking in a general context. ( by the "you" I meant the internet Per se )

I believe that Google , if they see a trend happening which works against their own principals will change the algorithm. To me this can be a good or a bad thing.

They have to be ever vigilant against the "Black Hats" of the Internet.

btw I do enjoy conversing with you .


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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

I know I was being silly too :). The black hats are not good for sure :).


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k@ri 7 years ago from Sunny Southern California

I've never experienced an earthquake, I am very glad to say! I lived near a military base in NJ that tested bombs. When one went off, the house would shake and the dishes would rattle, but it was only for a second. That is close enough for me! :)


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

k@ri, I'm not too sure which would be worse my earthquake or your bombs. I hope they were not Atomic Bombs ! and how often did they test these bombs ?


ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are probably my favorite natural "disasters". Disaster for who?

I do apologize but I can't bring myself to feel much pity for the arrogant human race when it is faced with the irresistible forces of the planet it imagines it controls. Had humanity learned to live more in harmony with Gaia, as opposed to raping her and assuming dominance at every opportunity, people would doubtless be better prepared for and less likely to suffer so greatly from forces they can't control.

A deeper knowledge of and respect for the forces that mold this planet and provide us our life support would go a long way toward ensuring our survival as a species.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

ColdWarBaby, mate, there is no need for apologies. Time and again 'mother nature' has proved herself way more powerful than anything man has so far managed to unleash. I feel that we are not too late yet to do something about it , but alas the 'almighty dollar' still controls things way too much for my liking.

CWB, I appreciate you taking the time top comment.


ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

That almighty dollar may be the death of us all.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

Next Tuesday is our day of truth. The Australian Budget will be released.

The rumors have been doing the rounds as to how bad it will be. Gee go figure on that one.

The Australian Gov. announced yesterday that the CES is to be delayed a year and reduced to 5%, laughable.

I've just got "Dr Strangelove" out of the library for a dose of reality. You would remember our friend Dr Strangelove ?


ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

A classic not to be forgotten. I think I'll see if I can find a torrent and ad it to my bootleg library.

How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb. Worlds apart for Sellers from Strangelove to Pink Panther.

The nuclear terror may be largely forgotten by most but it's by no means gone.


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

I've been bitten by torrents so I tend to steer clear of them do you use Lime Wire i've heard thats safe. I use my resources at the local library for videos.

The frightening thing now is it is not America or Russia we have to worry about it's the other nations, who quite possibley do not quite understand what they are doing with the nuclear power that they have in their possession.


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blondepoet 7 years ago from australia

That is really frightening being a fellow Aussie heck yes!


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agvulpes 7 years ago from Australia Author

blondiepoet, I think that being around you the earth would be moving all of the time. ;-)


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Candie V 7 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

A resounding Yes!! Several infact. "I feel the earth moove under my feet..!" It's not just the movement. It's the sound - of a huge train coming at you. Freakin' scary stuff to watch the parking lot literally roll and watch an 18 wheel semi bounce 3 feet off the ground, all 18 wheels at once!


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Kimberly Bunch 7 years ago from EAST WENATCHEE

Good Hub! Here's one of mine: http://hubpages.com/hub/italyquake


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noorin 6 years ago from Canada

Very interesting. Rated it up and will be following you =)


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia Author

@Kimberly Bunch. Thanks for your kind comment :-)


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agvulpes 6 years ago from Australia Author

@noorin, thanks for dropping by and leaving a nice comment :-)


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

Wow, I would be moving on! You couldn't give me California...and now..Melbourne, Australia!


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agvulpes 5 years ago from Australia Author

Yes Pal, it would look like we are not safe anywhere lol

However I am still convinced that Melbourne is the best place to live in the world. Tremor or no tremor lol

Thanks for you concern :-)


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Debby Bruck 5 years ago

Hello Agvulpes ~ You got me all shook up! I hub hopped over here from the feed section because I saw Pollyannalana comment. I thought this was a NEW quake and wanted to check out what happened. In fact, I was ready to email my friend in New Zealand to see if she was okay, when I realized this was from two years ago.

Nevertheless, I wanted to tell you that this event must have shook you up good to write such a thorough hub, including mythological characters and a short science report. Well, as an aside, for fear and trepidation for shocking events such as earthquakes, the homeopathic remedy comes in every emergency kit and works wonders.

Blessings, Debby


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agvulpes 5 years ago from Australia Author

G'day Debby if you had read the Update in the very first paragraph you would have noticed that it is a NEW event that occurred this morning 5-07-2011 (our time)!

I appreciate the fact that a small tremor is only minor compared to what happened in Christchurch and my heart really went out to the poor Kiwis. However I'm sure that large Earthquakes start out with small tremors and just sitting waiting for 15 seconds does seem like an eternity.

Thanks for your tips on the homeopathy remedy I will keep it in mind for the next tremor event.

Cheers Ag


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Beth100 5 years ago from Canada

My world rocked last night!!! :D

But, not from an earthquake or tremor like I thought. It turns out that it is from the blasting that they're doing in a new suburb! Literally, the house shook just as it does during a quake!!

Last year, the earth under us did shake due to an earthquake. Amazing how much the earth shakes and rattles!!

Thanks for this interesting hub!


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agvulpes 5 years ago from Australia Author

@Beth So the earth moved for you to:-)

If your house suffers any damage due to the blasting you should sue the 'blasters'

Thanks for sharing your experiences :-)


Kate 4 years ago

I have sex with the New Madrid fault line it feel so so so good


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Hmm... Kate is my face red or is it just that my eyes are green with envy?

Thanks for sharing ... I think?

Maybe just a little too much information?


Kate 4 years ago

OO New Madrid Earthquake in me feels so so 10.0 HIT the G spot


JOE 4 years ago

The New Madrid fault may have a 10.0 Earthquake today!!!!!!!! at 7'00PM


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Hmmm could be a title for a movie : "Joe meets Kate"?


Kate 4 years ago

Say what!?!?


Sam 4 years ago

My mom and dad and my brothers and sisters all 10 of them died in the 2004 Tsunami when i was 11 years old and now i am 18 years old and i have sex with the New Madrid fault line i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Well Sam if that is true about your family I am sad to hear of your loss :(

Maybe you could get together with Kate and Joe and see if the earth did move for you or was that really an earthquake?


KATE 4 years ago

BRING IT ON!!!!! agvlpes


Sam 4 years ago

Yes my family really died in the 2004 Tsunami when i was 11 years old by the way who is kate and joe???


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Hi Sam that is terrible about your family it must have been a terrible loss for you?

About Kate and Joe? I have no idea!


Kate 4 years ago

i love the New Madrid fault line it makes me feel so good in bad


Max 4 years ago

I was in a 8.7 Earthquake when i was 7 or 8 years old it was very very bad


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Hmm Sam, not another conspiracy theory? Earthquakes have been around for a lot longer than Haarp!


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agvulpes 4 years ago from Australia Author

Ok guys this is about earthquakes and there is no need to get personal or the comments will be 'moderated' :-)


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CloudExplorer 3 years ago from New York City

Wow this hub was superb, I think we experienced an earthquake here in the US back around the same time in 2011. I never knew y'all had one over there in Australia.

I like your play on the history of greek mythology related to earthquakes the most. Awesome Job!

5 thumbs up high it was quite humorous as well throughout :) & sharing.


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agvulpes 3 years ago from Australia Author

@CloudExplorer Aw thank you sir for your kind words ;)

Our rumble was not a major one although we have had a number of tremors since then.

Iv'e been told I have a weird sense of humor probably

the result of growing up the youngest of 11 children in the post Great Depression days ?

Mate thanks again for your great comment and shares :)


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

agvulpes, funny how you thought the first quake was a truck hitting the building. That was exactly my thought when I experienced my first 5 point something quake here in Oklahoma 4 years ago. It was just after 9:00 in the morning and I was home alone with my infant grandson in a house on the corner of a "busy" - for a town of 700 - intersection. Looking outside, though, there was no truck or any other vehicle, so I switched the telly to a local news channel and learned that a 5-plus magnitude quake had struck Oklahoma City. Only injury was a workman who been tossed off the ladder he was on. Everything was calm after that until a year later when we had a series of quakes over a weekend, the epicenter being 20-some miles from me, but 40 miles from OKC.

The first "big" one occurred around one in the morning and shook me awake. Some people closer to the epicenter were actually tossed out of their beds. Being a Friday night, I wondered how many couples thought a romantic interlude made "the earth move" for them!

I wasn't feeling so jolly about a bigger and longer-lasting trembler hit the next day and I was immobilized on the sofa watching a lampshade swing back and forth, with a similar but shorter episode the next day. The last two times I was just plain terrified! Even considered moving back to Kansas where I'd never experienced a single quake EVER, only tornadoes. The difference being that with a tornado happens, you have some warning and time to take cover, but there's NO warning time for a quake. (Quake researchers, however, think they've found a gaseous substance that escapes from a fault just before the shaking starts and are developing sensors for it.)

It's pretty much a given that OK's quakes are caused by fracking, the practice begun by the oil and gas industry just before the quakes started and which now occur as often as a dozen times DAILY. I'm on the geo survey's email alert list, and like most Okies these days, don't even bother with alerts for quakes less than 4.0 or 4.5 in magnitude. Like the constant wind "sweeping down the plains", quakes are something we've just learned to live with.


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

G'day there @JamaGenee and Wow it sounds like you are stuck between the proverbial 'Rock and a Hard Place or should I say Big Wind' :)

Thanks for sharing that fact about the Gas escaping I hope something comes from the research as it could save thousands of lives!

It is interesting also to hear you say that the Fracking process is causing these tremors!

Over here we are fighting 'tooth and nail' to stop the Coal Seam Gas exploration just coming in and drilling into our water tables. We have a 'Lock the Gate' campaign actively protesting and many local Towns are passing By-Laws to prevent this so called exploration from occurring!

Well I hope that those tremors have not got any worse or Kansas might be beckoning :)


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

G'day to you, too, Ag! Do whatever it takes to stop that coal seam gas exploration! When the UNrenewable energy industries (oil, natural gas, coal) have to punch holes way deeper into Mother Earth than ever before, we clearly don't need the "scraps" of those energy sources bad enough to ruin our drinking water and who knows what else. Time to recognize things aren't what they used to be and put the billions in exploration money behind wind and solar power instead! ;D


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee at the moment our state Government has put a Moratorium on Coal Seam Gas Exploration until 'at least' July 2015 until further research is 'carried out'.

Unfortunately there is an Election being held this November and at the moment it is a knife edge situation.

If the Opposition win the election I fear that the Moriturium will be out the door!


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

Then you and your friends and family should be investing in de-salination facilities, because de-salted sea water may be your ONLY source of clean, safe drinking water after the Coal Seam Gas people are done "exploring".

Just sayin...


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee it is funny you should mention De-Sal plants as we do have one in 'moth-balls' that the previous Government built in their last term of office and is costing our state over $600 million a year just to keep it on stand by.

Since it was ordered in 2007 there has not been one drop of water ordered from this Plant and our current water supply Dams are holding about 75% of their capacity.

This White Elephant which is costing we taxpayers about $20 Billion over 27 years is sticking in the craw of most Victorians !


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

Definitely a case of pro-active thinking, but clearly 'too much, too soon', because when the day finally arrives that that desalination needs to go online, I suspect the rechnology will already be out-of-date. Yes, definitely a White Elephant!

We have our own WE here, a multi-billion "fighter jet" program called the F-35 that after years of much tweaking and many design changes still can't reliably operate as a war plane except in daylight in absolutely, totally perfect weather. The good news is that there's been enough public protest that the "completed" planes have been grounded and production on the rest has been stopped.

Beats me, though, what can be done to stop the financial hemorrhage from a standby de-sal plant that'll probably never be used EXCEPT "follow the money" and see whose pockets that $600M a year is going into to keep it on standby. Just a thought... ;D


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee Ouch... Australia is also part of your WE fighter jet program !

Our defence force has ordered a number of the F35A Lighning JSFighters which are 'supposed' to be delivered early next year (2015) Lets hope that they don't turn into a 'death trap' for our brave pilots ?


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

ag, I doubt you'll have to worry about the F35A jet fighters being death traps for Aussie pilots since, as I said earlier, they can ONLY fly in daylight in perfect weather and the many malfunctions discovered in test flights aren't dangerous to the pilot, n.g. they don't blow up in the air, etc. It's more a case of a plane meant to be a fast, reliable high-altitude jet fighter in ANY weather has been proven to be more suited to low-flying air shows on sunny Sunday afternoons. Totally worthless for use in any military recon or combat situation.

Australia's "plane money" would be better spent on WWII Brit Spitfires, which are still the favorite flying machine of military AND non-military pilots alike. Sometimes perfection can't be improved on!

btw, I just saw a doc on Alaska that told about the earthquake that pretty much leveled Anchorage in (I forget the year) that registered above 9.0. I can't wrap my head around a quake of THAT magnitude!


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee yep I will remember to let our 'enemies' know that they can only attack us between the hours of 6am and 6pm .

I'm sure that they will be ok with that?

Those old Spitfires are the most beautiful aeroplanes that I can remember! There are still a few flying around over here and look so good in the air :)

I did a google on that Alaskan earthquake and it sure was a 'ripper' . It was in 1964 and registered 9.2 on the R-scale !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquak...

It must have been a terrifying thing to experience ?

You are right it is hard to get your head around something that Huge ?


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

LOL! Of course, 'enemies' will be okay with only attacking during daylight hours. Drop a few bombs, be home before dark. What's not to like? (-:

As for the Spitfire, after getting the DVDs of the entire series "Foyle's War" last year, I spent a lot of time googling for more info about various aspects of the war touched on in the show. Researching the Spitfire, I came across a recent (2012 or early '13) newspaper article about crates of 80+ brand-new, never-flown Spitfires that had just been discovered in a jungle in (Borneo?). Apparently they'd been shipped out from England near the end of the war in the South Pacific/Southeast Asia but never uncrated, then totally forgotten. All still in mint condition. No idea what's happened to them since the discovery, but it wouldn't surprise me if some aren't the ones you see flying around now and again. ;D


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

CORRECTION! The Spitfires you see flying around are NOT part of the cache buried in Burma (she says while pouring more ketchup on that crow). They would be some of the 36 known flyable Spitfires. Sorry.

The Spitfires reportedly buried in Burma at the end of WWII have NOT actually been found. The articles I read a year ago were about Brit David Cundall's efforts to mount a search for them, based on the testimony of several Brit servicemen who say they were present when the crates were buried, backed up by Cundall's 16-year search to prove their existance. He'd already spent over a millions pounds on this quest, and was seeking outside funding to continue. Then there was legal wrangling about who the planes would belong to, IF the Burmese government even allowing the planes to leave the country if found. So far the search in three different locations has been on, the off, then on again. Some reports claim "ground radar" shows them to be in a location matching the memories of the servicemen, other reports say the opposite, so who really knows? ust google "buried Spitfires in Burma" to see what a mess surrounds the search.

A link to the most recent report containing links to previous articles:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2239771/Do...

Have a great day! ;D


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee wow that is quite a story ( I would suggest there is enough there to write up a Hub?)

Thanks for the Correction I was considering mounting up my own Million Dollar expedition - NOT - lol

It just illustrates how much money is 'wasted' when fighting a war ?

Image how much money it is costing Our governments in fighting the ISIL rabble !

Thanks for the link I will sure have a read :)

My days are all great - lol

I hope your earthquakes are not too bad ?


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JamaGenee 2 years ago from Central Oklahoma

ag, it occurred to me, too, that the "buried Spitfires" would make a good hub, but it'll have to be at the bottom of the list for now.

Don't even get me started on the mess in the Middle East, except to to say I didn't vote for the Texas Post Turtle and his cronies who started the ball rolling in 2003. (A post turtle is a rural America oddity, a box turtle placed atop a fence post by local yahoos with two much time on their hands. Once there, it has no idea how it got there and no idea how to get down. Another apt description of Bush2 is "All hat and no cattle".) As for the money wasted, never ceases to amaze me how Congress can always find money to fight unwinnable wars half a world away, but can't "find" any money for things that need fixing here at home.

No "bad" earthquakes lately, just anywhere from half a dozen to a dozen little ones (2.7 - 3.2) EVERY DAY. The governor has assembled a commission to "explore" what's causing them - fracking, of course - but some nobody got himself on the news with a better plan: "We don't need no commission - just stop the fracking for a couple of months and if the quakes stop, there's your answer!". Why am I not surprised the oil and natural gas big wigs poo-pooed that idea? ;D


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agvulpes 2 years ago from Australia Author

@JamaGenee sorry to take so long to reply to your comment :)

We have been on a holiday to our beautiful East Coast to, among other things, do some Whale watching !!! Wow what an experience and really helps one get back to nature, so to speak :)

I just may do a Hub, if I can find some Mojo :)

Post turtles now that is a cruel thing to do :) but I sure can see the analogy to Politicians, we have a PM who must be related to the Bush's lol His nick-name is Phoney Rabbit, you must have heard of him. Said he would 'shirt-front' Putin when he comes to Australia. Instead he sent the first lady of Australian politics Julie Bishop to 'calm the beasts'.

I'm predicting she may be our second female PM and do a much better job thant the first ?

Australia is the same with the 'money' I'm amazed when after one of the toughest budget in years they just wave the wand and find Billions to fight Terrorism !

It may be fortunate that 'you' are having lots of 'little' tremors !

It may just save 'you' from having the BIG ONE :)

IMHO opinion there are just too many Lobbyists that have the ears of the Poli's and what about the Brown Paper Bags lol

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