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Name and discuss the 10 ways that religion produces fear and powerless

  1. gmwilliams profile image81
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

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    among people?

    1. gmwilliams profile image81
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      ERRATA:  Meant powerlessness instead of powerless.

    2. Sed-me profile image83
      Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Among ppl or specters?

    3. Righteous Atheist profile image60
      Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      WHo said this?

      "BUT I WILL FOREWARN YOU WHOM YOU SHALL FEAR: FEAR HIM, WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED HATH POWER TO CAST INTO HELL; YEA, I SAY UNTO YOU, FEAR HIM."

      1. Sed-me profile image83
        Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        It sounds to me a reasonable thing to fear the most powerful being in the universe... I would prefer to obey Him than to spit at Him.

        1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
          Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          The question was about how religion causes fear. At least we agree - believers are scared of this god they believe in. Sad really. sad

          1. Sed-me profile image83
            Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I am not scared of God. I fear Him. Scared of Him means I think He is going to hurt me. I do not.
            It is a respect... a knowledge of His power and strength. I put myself in my proper place... a pot... and I see Him in His rightful place... a potter. What power does a pot have? I do not incite my God to anger b/c I fear His power, but I am not afraid b/c I trust His love.

            1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
              Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              So you do indeed fear him then. OK Thanks. wink Trust his love? The guy that will throw you in hell if you don't grovel and fear him. LOL

              1. Sed-me profile image83
                Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Whose benefit do you mock for? What does it gain you? If God is real, and of this, I have no doubt... you will one day wonder for what great purpose you mocked the living God.

                1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                  Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I guess I am hoping you will come to your senses and stop spreading fear. It just causes conflicts and hatred. See: history. sad

                  How can you mock something that does not exist? I mock the idea of trusting the "love" of a being that will punish you for not believing in it.

                  1. Sed-me profile image83
                    Sed-meposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't "spread fear." Who started this thread about God and believers, me? No, I defend my God b/c I know Him to be good. Who came on to mock my God and believers? Me? No, you. To say I cause conflict or hatred is not an actual fact, is it?

                    You mock my God, you mock everyone who places their faith in Him, and to what end? What do you gain? You only instigate. This is not a rational way to spend your time if you believe something to be false.

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              Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              fear
              noun
              an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat

              verb
              be afraid of (someone or something) as likely to be dangerous, painful, or threatening


              What makes it worse is that you are afraid of something that doesn't exist. This is why religion was invented. It gets people to do things for people they wouldn't otherwise say out of fear.

      2. Doc Young profile image81
        Doc Youngposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        ... righteous (Romans 3:10) ... the humility of your user name speaks volumes ... your pronounced "fear of God" is well placed ... the believers fear is one of reverence for father ... while it appears yours is a fear of retribution (Hebrews 10:31) of the believer has no fear ... yet your words are uplifting to believers since you, apparently a non-believer, fulfilled words of prophesy in the Bible ... the same as those others that crucified Jesus Christ the savior (Psalm 22) ... you see God uses all people in His plan ... thanks for comments ...

        1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
          Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          This is untrue. Fear is fear, not reverence. Please read this to be able to actually understand what the bible teaches rather than twisting what it says to pretend that fear means something other than fear.  http://thaumaturgical.com/bible-teaches-fear-love/

          I thought it was a sin to twist the word of god. Not so?

          Thanks for validating my opinion of your religion.

          1. Doc Young profile image81
            Doc Youngposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            ... thanks but i'll stick with the Word of God ... had enough "scientific" nonsense ... it changes from day to day and person to person ... one does not justify a position or make themselves relevant by joining the worldly "book of the month" club ... a suggestion might be to read the meaning of words of the Bible in their context rather than listen to others express an opinion (which includes my opinion) ... in other words think for yourself and investigate objectively ... then take a stand with proofs, not opinions ... the Bible is quite clear and correct in Its statements, though at times, clarity calls for more than skimming through ... to fear God is to love Him ... and ... to fear God is to understand that this is His world and His rules apply ... there is no fickleness ... He has done as He said and will do as He said ... the fear the unbelieving man has toward the retribution of God is well placed not misplaced ... but which definition of fear fits is each man's choice ...

            1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
              Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Didn't bother reading the bible or the article I linked to then? I don't fear your imaginary being - sorry. Much as you try and spread fear, it does not work on me.

              Please try understanding "in context" and maybe you will stop twisting the word of god to suit yourself. I thought that was a sin - not so?

              "Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence? "

              Fear means fear - not love. This is why your religion has caused so many conflicts - fear mongering.

              1. Doc Young profile image81
                Doc Youngposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                "Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence? "  ... at least you got that much right so far ... but as usual it is a half quote to suit a position ... let me help ... here is the whole thought in context ... Jeremiah 5:21-23

                21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

                22 Fear ye not me ? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?

                23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.

                ... there are several things that cause me fear but all have to do with the physical ... and God calms my fears ... thanks for the input ...

                1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                  Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Please take it in context? I have read and understood the bible. Fear means fear - please stop twisting the word of god to pretend it means something else.

                  Nothing you added "for context" changes the fact that fear means fear. Sorry. wink Not even sure what point you are trying to make other than simply defending your fear. I know you fear.

                  Thanks for validating my opinion of your religion.

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                    Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Fear doesn't mean fear.
                    A day doesn't mean a day even when it's proceeded by the definition of a day.
                    A global flood means a regional flood.
                    A slave is not a slave.

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                  Rad Manposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Does this calm you?

                  "However, you may purchase male and female slaves from among the nations around you.You may also purchase the children of temporary residents who live among you, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow Israelites this way."

                  How about this?

                  "But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin.The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the men of the town must stone her to death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while living in her parents’ home. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you."

                  Or is it the concept of a God that calms you? The idea of an afterlife?

                  1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                    Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Odd that the threat of eternal punishment calms some people. Seems to me they are not being strictly honest with themselves  - either that or attempting to defend an untenable, irrational position. Probably why this religion has caused so many conflicts.

    4. YogaKat profile image91
      YogaKatposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Definition of religion from Google dictionary:

      re·li·gion
      noun
      the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
      "ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
      synonyms:    faith, belief, worship, creed; More
      a particular system of faith and worship.
      plural noun: religions
      "the world's great religions"
      a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
      "consumerism is the new religion"

      I meditate everyday . . . my God is my higher self and my electro-magnetic vibrations with the universe.  It is a person's choice - the religion she chooses . . . fear and powerlessness are choices as well.  My choice is to radiate universal love from my heart center.

      1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
        Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        So - why use the Capitalized word God?

        1. Kiss andTales profile image25
          Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          People use capitalized word God as the supreme entity of the Universe. There are many gods ,basically in the locality of the earth, that also includes the main head of false gods as satan.
          Though the God of the Universe does Identify himself through Hebrew and Greek scriptures ,as YHWH!, Meaning Jehovah in our language today. He separates himself from any others that claim his position, his name is sited and pronounced  over ,7000 times ,if you quoted your name in a book that many times ,there would be no doubt that is want you want to called.

          1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
            Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry - I wasn't asking you for your irrational beliefs. I was asking the other person why they capitalized the word god when their god was something other than your make believe Invisible Super Being.

            1. Kiss andTales profile image25
              Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Since you did not personally state a name of direction or a pacific person to reply I use the reply button and answered,
              You are welcome to your opinion, I respect that ,but you do not have to be disrespectful to others by your reply in choice of words.
              When no one is treating you that way.

              1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I quoted that person. Therefore I was directing my question to them. How was i disrespectful exactly?

            2. Kiss andTales profile image25
              Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              So - why use the Capitalized word God?
              Is your exact words ,no name of direct reply.
              Disrespectful in how you attack a persons belief of their true God. The words you use is not accepted and certainly none peaceable.

              1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                This is what I said and the person I quoted:



                So - obviously the question was directed at them As their god is "my higher self and my electro-magnetic vibrations with the universe". So I was interested why they used capitalization.

                Oh - please feel free to give me some reasons why I should not point out that your beliefs are irrational and your god does not exist. How is that an "attack" exactly? And why should I respect such a ridiculous belief? This is the god that punishes people that don't believe in it with eternal damnation - right? wink

                1. Kiss andTales profile image25
                  Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  No you are not correct ! You are like for example a false witness identifying the wrong man in a line up.
                  You see all religion alike, also you also make all gods alike ,not so,
                  if I were to say all men are alike, and you do not exist because you do not make sense to me in your statements ,does that mean you do not exist ?
                  That is how you are understood to me.

                  1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
                    Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I do no such thing. Please stop bearing false witness against me. Your god does not exist. None do. How is that an "attack" exactly? Glad you reject the god described in the bible now. You know - the one that throws unbelievers in the lake of fire. Which make believe god is it you believe in in that case?

                    Any time you would like to explain why I should respect your irrational beliefs I am open to it.

  2. Kiss andTales profile image25
    Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago

    Well your question can go any direction ,because there are many religions,most Christian and non Christian , Fear and powerless in religion is the use of hell fire, none truth,if they can read Hebrew and Greek terminology , hell does not exist, people use money as power to pay for a good contentious mSad because God made the gold and silver ,flour can be given if it is your best , so that is false power. Going to heaven is another power of belief wrong ,because that is by invitation, not by any human choice because you said they are going. No different then some one would  see your house and invite themself in even if they are a crook, killer, child abuser, thief , and more.
    Why would God Invite people who died as one of these in heaven just because they died , would heaven be like the earth now if all people died are there now ? 
    The point is Religion has done much harm in hands of the wrong ones. Just like a gun can in the wrong hands.
    The point of the this reply is to understand as example ,that yes there is fools gold, but there is real gold too! should we dismiss the fact of finding real gold just because you have experience fools gold. .
    And people that want what is real can receive it if they seek its wisdom from the heart.

  3. Kiss andTales profile image25
    Kiss andTalesposted 2 years ago

    I would be happy to explain why God does not burn any one in a hell fire. Even though many false representatives use it as a power over many people.
    I will return to you with the explanation hands tied with grands!

    1. Righteous Atheist profile image60
      Righteous Atheistposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Super. Not the explanation I was asking for though. wink

  4. bBerean profile image60
    bBereanposted 2 years ago

    Kiss and Tales, if you are not seeing quotes, try switching from "threaded" to "chronological" view, (found in the upper right corner of the page).

 
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