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Have You Reached Enlightenment?

  1. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Do You believe you have reached enlightenment? Yes or No, please explain why.

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      not yet

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Why do you say not yet?

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes,gained enlightenment in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at the age of twenty four while practicing one pointed concentration.

    3. TrinaLynne profile image74
      TrinaLynneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think you can ever reach full enlightenment. You learn something new everyday unless you live all by yourself in the wilderness with no electricity and such....lol. But honestly I have reached it when it comes to some things, others I'm not so sure about. And I don't know what tomorrow will bring.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with you. Once someone thinks they know everything is the moment they stop learning.

        1. TrinaLynne profile image74
          TrinaLynneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Very true. Also, that type of person is not open to other opinions and experiences.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I agree also. You are stating the obvious. You must use logic!!! lol good stuff

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      Writer Riderposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes.

      1. countrywomen profile image61
        countrywomenposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        NO, I am no where even close to enlightenment. I have yet to overcome anger, envy and greed. More ever I have yet to develop compassion, humility and tolerance to a higher level that I feel an enlightened person exemplifies. I may not even achieve it in this life time. And all I can do is to try to improve a little everyday if not improve at least not fall down any further. I guess I should stop now. Maybe the weekend mood is kicking in. smile

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Dear CW,

          Yes, you can not achieve the ultimate enlightenment unless you read scriptures specially Qur'an and implement it on yourself. for instance, the anger which you mentioned can not be managed only untill you read the Hadith (tradition) of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) whose theme is that "if you get angry and you can not control yourself then sit down and drink a glass of cold water with 3 pauses, even after doing this, you are unable to controll yourself then lay down on the ground or bed, this will reduce your anger finally."

          Also, with due respect, take care while achieving higher levels of tolerance because these Freemasons and Humanists want every women to be so tolerable, she could not even say ooffff while being harassed / molested / raped again and again.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So how did Muhammad or Jesus gain enlightenment without reading the Quran.Muhammad couldn't read anything forget the scriptures.Have you heard of the word meditation?

            I never read the Quran before enlightenment, I read it after that.Your philosophy is warped.
            Do you know what enlightenment is? What are your qualifications? Who are you to teach on god when you don't know god for yourself.?

            1. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Muhammad (peace be upon him) could not read but he was able to HEAR smile

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                From which source did he hear? Maybe Christians or Hindus as to how to connect with god an about meditation or was it the Parsees? Does this source become more important than the Quran?
                So one doesn't have to read to get enlightened.

          2. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            "Yes, you can not achieve the ultimate enlightenment unless you read scriptures specially Qur'an and implement it on yourself."

            BS, this is your belief of enlightenment, your belief is not the only way. My enlightenment has nothing to do with a quran. Enlightenment is found more in oneself, not in religious teachings. 

            These statements are not from an enlightened individual in my logic.

    5. Davinagirl3 profile image61
      Davinagirl3posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have had an experience, while meditating, that I believe to be nearly unattainable.  It was just for an instant, and at the time, it was like being in the presence of God.  I was so deep in my subconscience, I felt a white light so intense, it was amazing.  It was only for an instant, though, then it all slipped back and I slid back to my earthly self.  That was about 10 years ago and I have not had an experience like it again... not sober, anyway.

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Enlightenment is in Light, I believe you.

    6. anjalichugh profile image86
      anjalichughposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I would like to see who says 'YES' to your question. smile

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I have anjali , go back and read about it.smile

        1. chukra G profile image59
          chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          you look genuine in your picture, respect your look

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks chakra I am not playing games. smile

            1. chukra G profile image59
              chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              it was from my heart

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks once again ,your heart is pure. smile

                1. chukra G profile image59
                  chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  same as you smile

    7. sunshine rivers profile image61
      sunshine riversposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, I have. I am aware of being in the power of now, that God lives within me, has no respect of persons, that prayer is powerful, sincere prayers will be answered, intuition is God whispering to me, that blessings are abundant in my life, and miracles do happen and have. I have been enlightened! I know that if I believe I will conceive, that God and Love are one of the same, thus Love exist within me and I am LOVE!

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thank You for posting.

        I think we may have a different idea of enlightenment, none the less, I appreciate your perspective. I believe when God is mentioned with enlightenment, it is confusing because every individual can have a different idea of God as well of enlightenment. So instead of focusing on one idea, an entire different topic is thrown in the mix when using God. Again, I am not content on belief that one has to believe in a God to reach enlightenment or become enlightened. Thank You

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Enlightenment is connecting with god, in Light- god is the light.

          1. Maddie Ruud profile image82
            Maddie Ruudposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thread shut down.  Too many flagged posts.  Geez, couldn't you guys have behaved while I was on vacay?

  2. DennisBarker profile image59
    DennisBarkerposted 7 years ago

    yes and no,
    I know thats a cop out but enlightenment in which situation?
    I've re-lived a few and am experiencing many for the first time....

  3. Maddie Ruud profile image82
    Maddie Ruudposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is like perfection--unattainable (and therefore effectively nonexistant), but still worthwhile as a concept, as something to strive for.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I do not think Enlightenment as perfection.

      1. Maddie Ruud profile image82
        Maddie Ruudposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I said it is LIKE perfection in that it is not an absolute, not a solid thing, just a useful concept.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          In your words, can you give me your definition of enlightenment? Thanks

          1. chukra G profile image59
            chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you can define it as you have started a journey
            you got through the gate i guess

          2. tksensei profile image61
            tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            'What is enlightenment' was the most popular question during The Enlightenment.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              If I say everything I believe, what would be the point of the forum? I want to know what others believe. I want others individual idea of what they think enlightenment is.

      2. chukra G profile image59
        chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yes your are till you attached to the world life

    2. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      it can be define as a journey too smile

    3. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It is attainable and a fact of life.Your answer is like saying Jesus, Buddha,Guru Nanak etc were not enlightened as its not possible.
      Enlightenment is in light- one with the source or god,your source.

      1. chukra G profile image59
        chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        it is we the origin we forgot, enlighthment is just knowing the forgotten which is US. and you dont need to wait till the world end.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes its going back to the source, becoming the source or god the Light,an experience.

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Its more like understanding your perfection.This universe and everything in it is in perfection at all times.

        "Knowing you are perfect ,
        I still curse you with disrespect."

        When I am pissed of with god. smile

        1. chukra G profile image59
          chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          it is a very untruth saying that " no one perfect in this universe "

          Each of us perfect, when you begin to feel the truth(God)

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank You for your perspective. However, we are not all perfect. Look at children who are born with deformities who are born with no chance to succeed in life. Did God make them perfect? Please explain how you believe God made everyone perfect?

            1. chukra G profile image59
              chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              what do you mean by succeed in life when there awaits a FULL STOP at the corner,kindly explain on your understanding on success. and are you saying, who born with deformities is not perfect complete to us? is that because sympathy.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hello, Yes I have much sympathy for the innocent whom are born with defects. They will constantly be looked down on in our judgemental society. They will be tested 100 times more in life than you or I will ever know. I believe they will never have a fair chance in life to live without being judged on their defect by our society.

                1. chukra G profile image59
                  chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  smile think deeply is that so difficult to give them fair chance? yes it is, you know why because we all self centred, nothing will change that

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I agree with you partly. I will also say that if you give up on hope to succeed, you will set yourself to fail. It has to begin somewhere.

                2. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Your sympathy doesn't change the perfection.I also feel for them but I understand the perfection of god.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    You say you understand the perfection of God? You say the human mind is incapable to understand God. Do you not have a human mind?

            2. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Everything is perfection as everything is god.Its a master plan beyond the human understanding.

          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yes we are all in absolute perfection and don't know it.

    4. John W. Watson profile image60
      John W. Watsonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I like your answer to the question. As someone who studies the Buddhist/Hindu writings, reaching enlightenment takes several lifetimes. I can say from my short time channeling, that I have gained greater mental clarity, but enlightenment? No. I have studied Buddhism, but I'm no Buddha.

      1. chukra G profile image59
        chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You are BUDDHA,

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          True everyone is or will be.Like Guru Nanak says " everyone is or will be a master."

  4. DennisBarker profile image59
    DennisBarkerposted 7 years ago

    I consider enlightenment to be understanding of context and history.I have this in somealthough I am adding experience  situations and  not in others

  5. lxxy profile image60
    lxxyposted 7 years ago

    The moment you feel you know everything, you've lost the reason behind it all.

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile do you mean no questions left and only answer remain

      1. lxxy profile image60
        lxxyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How can there ever be one answer? Isn't it different for everyone? smile

        1. chukra G profile image59
          chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          that is the miracle, humans being wrong till they realise we all ONE that can't be separated,

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Enlightenment is not the end of knowledge.

      1. chukra G profile image59
        chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        it is the end of the false and confusions

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The last stage is omniscience or all knowledge.

  6. My Inner Jew profile image83
    My Inner Jewposted 7 years ago

    yes i have reached enlightenment...i can definitely touch the light bulbs above my head...
    but to answer your question, no.  Can anyone? Maybe to certain extents, but i don't think anyone can reach true enlightenment till the world to come.  In Jewish theology, rabbi's believe that in the life after this one is where we will receive enlightenments and learn about the mysteries of the universe.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      There are two stages what in Hindu philosophy is term as samadhi and maha smadhi. Samadhi is dying becoming one with god-the light and then coming back alive-enlightenment.Maha smadhi is total death where one doesn't come back at all unless for a higher purpose like the prophets .

    2. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol

  7. Beth100 profile image85
    Beth100posted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is the enlightening of one....okay, which, when interpretted loosely, can mean that one has come to full awareness of oneself by comprehending all the problems involved without any ignorance or misinformation.  In addition, one has attained a level of awareness that is absent of suffering and desire. 

    Yes, I am enlightened, but no, I have not attained enlightenment though I am walking on this path.

  8. Moonchild60 profile image85
    Moonchild60posted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is certainly not all the answers to lifes questions.  It is not the ability to accept and understand that which would make another person angry, irrational, sullen, disappointed, irritated, etc... Spritually enlightened people do not become perfect.  They find the enlightenment on the journey of the self.  The enlightenment is a path you walk in your every day life.  When you come to the man who has stepped in front of you in line and on your nicely polished alligator shoe you say "Excuse me my friend, you have stepped on my shoe" to which he would usually reply "oh sorry".  There is no need to point out that he stepped in front of you at the same time.  You both know this, but you are enlightened enough to know that this is unimportant.  You smile as he leaves and feel no anger toward him.  this is an example of being enlightened.  A friend tells you you made them angry by certain behavior.  You listen carefully and then think about it, was this in fact a behavior I displayed and If I did, why?  Questioning yourself and not attacking your friend for the feelings she had the right to have.  Now it can be discussed with compassion and care.  Enlightenment is a never ending journey to the core of the self.  philosophy, the self, Krishnamurti, these journeys, are all to bring us into awareness of who we are and our place in this world. And just when we think perhaps, maybe...it could be close....there is more.. always more.  I think everyone who does this however, is on their path to enlightenment. And will eventually find it one day.  Someplace.  But it is the journey that holds the most excitement.  The destination would be a sad place where everything else has already happened.

  9. lxxy profile image60
    lxxyposted 7 years ago

    I can't speak about it in any other way besides as just above.

    I concur. An open heart, a free mind, lots of hugs--and a willingness to try something new.

    Enlightenment is realizing that we're only here to be children of exploration and play.

  10. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Like Happiness
    Enlightenment is a state of mind ,and not a destination ( my opinion)
    My answer has to be No...smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you believe happiness has to be acheived for enlightenment to be acheived?

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No, but I think enlightenment is not ever complete ,like it continues all of our lives...
        I can be enlightened about say a certain culture ,but that is like one small drop in a large ocean ,so to speak.
        So I can be unhappy,( emotions change) but still become enlightened.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If it counts for anything, I think you have reached enlightenment. I also agree that enlightenment is a constant journey and there is something new to be learned each day.

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
            Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It counts Marine ,all things are relevant, but why do you say that? how did you draw these conclusions..smile

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Well, I am just making an assumption. I will try to explain why I think this. You have wise words, mature writing. You have no "ego" or "arrogance" in your writing. I believe you understand true individualism and you have full self-awareness at all times. I also see that you are a "free thinker" and that you are open to others perspectives, yet not influenced. Being open to others perspectives, I believe true logic can be found.You also recognize "the constant journey" and understand that you know little to nothing of lifes true unknowns. I also believe you to be very humble to fully think of anothers perspective.

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Enlightened about some knowledge is not what we are talking about.

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
            Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Perhaps youd like to enlighten me then? lol

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Enlightenment is in light-God. The source from where we have all come and will eventually go back to.Like Jesus says on must be reborn- this is literal , one needs to die , go back home- to god, understand that you are god.
              Its termed satori in Japanese, samadhi in Hinduism ad is a state of being one with god, also termed as revelation.

              "You are made of such fine light, love tissue,
              No beginning, no end an ageless issue."

              My job is to help and I will be happy to answer any more of your questions.By helping you I am helping god. smile

              1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
                Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Oh ok ,you were meaning spiritual enlightment then, I was speaking enlightenment in a more general defination.
                Jesus does say ,we must be born again ,for we have been all born once , then die to ourselves ( here on earth),put to death daily our fleshly desires and become reborn 'spiritually' or of spirit,(Holy Spirit) here ,right now,when we first heard. smile

                1. mohitmisra profile image60
                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Perfect. smile

  11. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Gods Loves Us Perfectly
    He is more concerned with the our Hearts( what we think, not how we look)
    Man is more concerned with outward appearances,achievements , fame or fortune.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Lol Hello Eagle, You just stole my answer!!! I wanted to see his answer, now he will copy this. lol

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        (oops ,sorry)

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol all is good, I liked your answer. I think an innocent child born with a defect is a true test of god and will not to judge and to treat as perfect.

  12. RedElf profile image85
    RedElfposted 7 years ago

    Isn't that why we joined hub pages? wink lol
    Seriously though, I think we are talking about two facets of our being here - the physical and the spiritual...
    There are those who believe that God, or Allah, or the Universe, created each one of us exactly the way we are supposed to be. We are therefore therefore perfect in the eyes of our creator, whatever our physical nature is, and however our physical being may be perceived by others.
    There are also those who believe that though we strive to be better people according to the teachings of whatever religion or philosophy we follow, we are not spiritually perfect beings, and we can never be truly perfect spiritually nor attain enlightened in this lifetime.
    There are many definitions of perfection, both physical and spiritual, and perhaps it is the striving towards the goal that is important.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this
    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hindus believe anyone can gain enlightenment in this life time and that is main criteria of life.

  13. Enelle Lamb profile image85
    Enelle Lambposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is a journey...not a destination

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      in a language GOD means journey.

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wrong , enlightenment is the destination and meditation is the journey.

  14. Irene McManman profile image59
    Irene McManmanposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is when we don’t have those questions anymore…and no answers too. You don’t need it. I don’t have an answer on that one…so I might half way there

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Enlightenment is having the answer to who you really are, what is the source of all and that this universe is as alive as you and me, nothing is dead but there is more to learn after enlightenment.

  15. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    I am humbled by your flattering analysis.
    Perhaps its more true, that I aspire to be a better ,more peaceful person inwardly.
    Mostly you hit the nail on the head,and I find your insights to be very refreshing.
    There is much more to you than what we can glean on here Im sure.
    I think often we miss out on so much, when our minds are closed and it is especially sad when anyones mind remains closed.
    Sometimes those are the minds that I feel drawn too , I dont know why. It is not always that enjoyable ,lol.
    Like you, I find people somewhat fascinating ,definately entertaining and always amazingly complex.
    Thankyou for answering.
    P.S Maybe its all the seafood I was fed as a kid,lol smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      "I think often we miss out on so much, when our minds are closed and it is especially sad when anyones mind remains closed."

      Agreed! I think there is also the idea of seeing the "bigger picture" or "large scale". When the light clicks on that you don't know everything and learn from the history of your mistakes.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Miriam Webster:
    1: the act or means of enlightening : the state of being enlightened
    2capitalized : a philosophic movement of the 18th century marked by a rejection of traditional social, religious, and political ideas and an emphasis on rationalism —used with the
    3Buddhism : a final blessed state marked by the absence of desire or suffering

    I disregard these, except for #1, as I have been enlightened by joining Hugpages, quite an eye opener for me.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      1: the act or means of enlightening : the state of being enlightened - its  state .

    2. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      That's the point. Similarly you can not get enlightened if your Creator does not guide you about the doose and donts. If you don't know the difference, you can not get enlightened. For example, humans did not know about pigs and alcohol being bad for them, so God-Allah informed humans through revelations not to have pigs and alcohol. Later in 20th century science confirmed that whatever God told us about pigs and alcohol was 100% accurate.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You will never get enlightened by religion, religion is not enlightenment it is enslavement.

        1. usmanali81 profile image60
          usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What's your proof ??? and if that is the case then HUMANISM, MATERIALISM, CAPITALISM, EVOLUTION, INDIVIDUATION, MOTHER NATURE, MADITAION, HALF SLEEP HALF AWAKE, ZIONISM AND FREEMASONRY are also enslavements.

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Jeez, does that make me a Freemason?

            1. usmanali81 profile image60
              usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              may be indirectly because Freemasons follow KABBALAH and in it, the basic pagan doctrines are Humanism, Atheism and Materialism

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                So now one can be a Freemason indirectly- very interesting philosophy lol  lol  lol  lol

            2. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              lol  off course it does ,you haven't converted to Islam wink

  17. andromida profile image75
    andromidaposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is a state of mind or feeling which tells you that you got it.But what you do with that enlightenment is important.
    In this technologically advanced world the old concept of enlightenment does not work well and  truly difficult to achieve.I would love to meet some one if he or she claims that they are enlightened.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I believe it would be arrogant for me to claim enlightenment. I would never claim this. However, I do feel as if my light came on. I learn more and more everyday, yet I continue to know nothing.

      1. andromida profile image75
        andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        "I do feel as if my light came on"-this is the key in my personal opinion.This feeling will drive you towards enlightenment which is never ending or infinite journey.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Agreed. I believe there are different stages of enlightenment with some never being enlightened.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this
          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Enlightenment is one and the same for all, there are no different stages.There are different stages of consciousness in different people but not enlightenment.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              There are different stages in my belief. You do not leave much open to interpretation. You can reach enlightenment in understanding yourself and still learning how much you do not know. If claiming absolute enlightenment, this to me would be claiming to know everything when none of us know nothing.

              1. chukra G profile image59
                chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                the best part is you wont claiming it when you know everything

              2. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Here I believe you are talking about samadhi and maha samadhi.Enlightenment is dying ,fusing with the light and coming back which is termed as samadhi.

                Then you have maha smadhi where you die ,fuse with the light and don't come back.
                So example are Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus, Guru Nank, Sai Baba= enlightened ones.

                know everything when none of us know nothing.-speak for yourself.

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Lol ok, I will speak for myself. I know nothing while you claim to know something or "everything". You will not learn until you understand you also know nothing.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Just sharing my knowledge something I feel you could use and benefit from, mean no harm.

        2. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          "I do feel as if my light came on"- interesting please expand on this.

      2. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this
      3. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        When you do get enlightened it will not be arrogant to claim it but if you are not then it is arrogant.I am not arrogant ,I am truthful and hope this truth inspires more people to meditate and gain enlightenment.

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Do you think enlightenment is so hard to acheive because of our majority follower society?

      1. andromida profile image75
        andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Before answering your question I think we need to define the definition of enlightenment and its purpose.Because this idea is very old.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Lol I'm not trying to give you a test. I'm just asking why you think it's so hard to acheive. I believe it's hard to acheive also.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It is not so hard. Depressing yes, hard no. sad

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              It is depressing at times, yet there is always "hope". lol

          2. andromida profile image75
            andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Lol, I am not trying to take any test.lol.Actually,in this busy and competitive society people find very less time to ponder about any particular subjects.Moreover,every day huge volume of
            information and ideas are added to the human knowledge bank.For
            real enlightenment one needs to dedicate majority of his time in learning and concentrating.Though some might claim that they got enlightenment suddenly,since nothing is impossible I won't cancel it out completely;maybe they have reached the understanding of the existence of the ONE or that kind of feeling.I find the word enlightenment somehow
            restricted or fit well  with the the geocentric model of the universe period.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Actually,in this busy and competitive society people find very less time to ponder about any particular subjects.Moreover,every day huge volume of
              information and ideas are added to the human knowledge bank.For
              real enlightenment one needs to dedicate majority of his time in learning and concentrating.


              I agree with this 100%. I believe a lot of us try to do things to prevent thinking.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                You dont need to meditate the whole day, 20-30 minutes of serious meditation is fine .

          3. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yes its difficult , you need to have perfect concentration which requires a lot of practice.As a kid I would draw a dot on the wall and concentrate on it for a long time , all this practice helped me gain enlightenment.I suppose higher forces were guiding me without me knowing it.

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        People are concentrating more on the messenger than the messenger. It is distraction in the city which spoils your concentration while meditating. I promise you if you practice one pointed concentration you can get enlightened.

    3. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I am.

      1. andromida profile image75
        andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How did it happen,I mean I want to know if you were meditating towards enlightenment and why you feel that you are enlightened.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I was practicing one pointed concentration, closing my eyes and focusing on a star or point of light between my eyebrows in order to improve my concentration powers.Would do this for roughly 10 minutes in the early morning after my watch.( was a navigating officer in the merchant navy and my watch or work timing would be 12-4 afternoon and night.)

          It happened in the Atlantic ocean from a voyage from South Africa to South America . Was practicing as usual and I was not looking for god or enlightenment.

          You basically race to the point of light when you inhale and away from the point of light when you exhale at very fast speeds _ its a tunnel created between you and the point of light and you are racing up and down this tunnel.
          It scary and you hold back as the speeds scare you, then comes the time of let go , you dont hold back , drop all egos and attachments and race towards the point of light.

          This point of light becomes huge like the moon and you implode into it before exploding from It- one with the light- god- bliss-home- no beginning and no end- timeless.
          Then you think of yourself -meaning your body and at that very moment you are back.
          Enlightenment - one who has been one with the light- that sate and come back.smile

          1. andromida profile image75
            andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you mohit for sharing your experience.That time you must have felt the state of euphoria,didn't you.Did you weep that time?If possible please share more of your experience.

  18. frogdropping profile image83
    frogdroppingposted 7 years ago

    I've reached enlightenment.

    I used to weigh 69k. Now only 60 smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Would this be called enlighterment?

    2. Eaglekiwi profile image76
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      missed you frogs ,where ya been smile
      oh hey did ya see you were voted funniest hubbiest ( thats not a word is it) lemme try that again
      funniest hub writer,well that was a few hours now ,but not matter
      I just see those wet green legs an do this~~>lol

      1. frogdropping profile image83
        frogdroppingposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I won something? What did I win? I could do with one of those wotsits ... you flick ash in them. Or I'm good for a lucky dip.

           big_smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oreo cookies

  19. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I will agree at times in a depressed mindset, the hope may look like hype.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Once you are "enlightened," hope is for losers. big_smile

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Lol that one actually made me laugh. I do not agree though. What is left without hope? reality? Who wants to deal with reality? lol If you only see reality, will you ever be able to enjoy the good?

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Reality is really cool once you can accept how un-important you are. Grain of sand on the beach of life. Wind blowing, surf crashing, sea gulls fighting....... perfect.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Agreed. I agree that no 1 person is more important to the other. I will say that one person can choose to influence good in others while the other chooses to influence bad.

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Best I can do is ask questions. Not massively popular though... wink

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Please explain

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  So, you asked this question:

                  "Do You believe you have reached enlightenment? Yes or No, please explain why."

                  Why did you ask it? Does this mean that you feel enlightened - do you even know what enlightenment is?

                  What prompted you to ask this question if you cannot answer the previous questions?

                  1. marinealways24 profile image61
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    What previous questions are you referring to? I simply asked you why you think your questions are not popular?

  20. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I think we have a different idea of enlightenment. Mine comes from no religion or bible.

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      there is no different between both smile

    2. Eaglekiwi profile image76
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      From where marine? where do you find enlightenment and what do you measure it against, how do you formulate your thoughts, ideas, emotions etc. Am curious.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I use to live pissed off all the time. I had an ego, arrogance, thought I was untouchable. I use to want to buy all material things in my quest for happiness. I slept with numerous girls, followed others, didn't think about life or myself. I motivated myself to get through life by the hate I had for life and my father I have never seen. One day, I was tired of being pissed off. A light came on. I refused to be pissed off at life anymore and determined/developed reason and logic of my history that got me where I am today. A beautiful wife, great mom, and a boy on the way. When that light came on, I forgave my father and everything I have been mad about. I also forgave myself for my past mistakes. I lost my arrogance for humbleness, still a work in progress. I am fully self-aware of everyone and everything around me. I analyze what I will say and how it will effect everyone I am in the room with. I try to always truly think before I speak. If not considering others emotions before speaking, I believe this as arrogance and lack of intelligence when those speak without consideration. I do not think these things have to be taught from others or religion. I think it can be found within individualism, free thought. However I do still believe some religious people can still be enlightened based on individual logic. I am still a work in progress and will never reach perfection like no one else. I will continue to know nothing in my quest to learn something.

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well-thats already sounds as something.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you sir. However, sometimes it feels as if I am only henpecking. lol

            1. moposan profile image60
              moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              That is one enlightening henpecking.smile

        2. chukra G profile image59
          chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          ops now i see the difference. yes it is a very different thing. its like one is false and one is true.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I'm not saying my idea is the right one. I saying that one day, my light decided to come on. I thought about the important things and put to rest the materialistic. I lived 29 years, yet at 30, I am only now truly starting to live because I have started to wake up.

            1. chukra G profile image59
              chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              let me give you a clue, there is a journey where you will travel within you, have you ever heard about this, here where you will find the answer.

  21. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I also do not think enlightenment has anything to do with drawing a dot on a wall.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It aids in one pointed concentration between your eyebrows.

      "seven breaths of one pointed concentration will get you enlightened " Patanjali- the founder of Yoga meaning science of union with god.

      Your thinking is wrong.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Lol You are wrong for saying my thinking is wrong. I have no idea what you are reading. You constantly contradict yourself. You can stare at dots on the wall all you wish. enjoy. You made another religious reference to my belief. If you would read, I have said my beliefs comes from no religious teachings.

        1. mohitmisra profile image60
          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It aids in one pointed concentration meaning attaining perfect concentration which comes with a lot of practice and takes time as it is very difficult to perform.

  22. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    The Hen feels tired of pecking sometimes, yet the henpecking must continue.

    1. moposan profile image60
      moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      And especially from 9/9/2009.Good luck!

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Very Right. A lot of sleepless nights ahead. Must maintain sanity. lol Thank You

        1. moposan profile image60
          moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You are welcome,that is where your enlightenment(which is mature attitude to life) will be of the best use.

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Agreed! I believe with responsibility comes knowledge.

            1. moposan profile image60
              moposanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Unfortunately not for everyone.Only if you regard responsibility as your responsibility without trying to shift it to somebody else and find a scapegoat.Otherwise we wouldnt have abuses of power and abandoned children.

              1. marinealways24 profile image61
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I agree with this also. I refuse to set my responsibilities up for failure as I was partly set up.

  23. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    let me give you a clue, there is a journey where you will travel within you, have you ever heard about this, here where you will find the answer.



    I have not heard or read this anywhere. However, I do agree with it and believe it mostly true.

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      enlightment=journey=truth=god=YOU
      go and find

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I don't know as of yet if I agree with your formula. I think you have to recognize the journey before to reach enlightenment. I also do not know if you are talking of a religious God or an individual idea of God.

        1. chukra G profile image59
          chukra Gposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          it is not a formula , i was trying to say that it is the same thing with the sign(smile

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            ahh, ok, I can agree with that. I myself believe in God, no religious God,  however I also think some that do not believe in God could possibly acheive enlightenment also.

            1. mohitmisra profile image60
              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              however I also think some that do not believe in God could possibly acheive enlightenment also.-
              very true as I was an atheist when I gained enlightenment.

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Its what all philosophies talk about- the inner journey- god is within you.

  24. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I don't want this to turn into a religious debate. However, I highly disagree with anyone saying someone else's thinking is wrong. This is a moronic statement. In individual free thought, no individuals thinking is ever wrong unless the individual decides it wrong.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are talking about enlightenment in a very general or light way , yes it was mind altering but it pales in significance to spiritual enlightenment, what I am talking about.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        An Individual understanding their individualism is extremely rare and is never to be taken lightly in my belief. Individualism is our greatest freedom, yet many of us choose to be a follower. One can live an entire life never finding individualism.

  25. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    I will reach enlightenment, when I feel I have fullfilled every thing I want to do in life... e.g. when I have a familly with beautiful children and in a happy marrage, when I have reached the pinnical of my career and have understood all that i believe i can understand about my chosen area of expertise... Then and only then will i feel "enlightened".

    Marinealways is also right mohitmirsa, you should NOT say that someone elses belief systems are wrong... no matter how far they are from your own, state your point of view but do not attack other peoples views and thought.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Great attitude dipless ,I second that! smile

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You are right enlightenment is taken in a very light vein as well. smile
      I believe that is the real question otherwise every single person in the world has many moments of enlightenment . smile

  26. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Some days I feel so amazingly full of enlightenment, my heart is overflowing with electric baubles of energy.
    Other days the 'some things' I know ,have wondered off to goodness knows where ,and I feel inactive and perplexed.

    I have decided to treat those days as reflective days , and feed my visuals on other living energies , birds,trees,mountians and memories...smile

    Do you ever wish you had made a different decision than the one you did-

  27. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    why does enlightenment have to be a religious term though, in the 18th century it a philosophical movement of the eighteenth century which stressed human reasoning over blind faith or obedience and was thus in contrast with much of the religious and political order of the day, while also encouraging 'scientific' thinking

    Today it can also mean education that results in understanding and the spread of knowledge.

    It doesn't have to mean reaching the nivarna so i think respecting peoples interpretations is vital.

    P.S. thanks Eaglekiwi

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with so much of what you say dipless. I do not think religion has to be had with enlightenment. I believe enlightenment comes more from individualism and free thought than guided thought.

      1. dipless profile image85
        diplessposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        sums it up in a nutshell well put big_smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Thank You. I believe you and Eagle have excellent knowledge of stating your beliefs without pushing them. It shows lots of tact and is very admirable. Thanks.

      2. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        There are two meanings to enlightenment and the spiritual meaning is satori, or samadhi or union with god.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I would much rather hear "your" thoughts than "others" thoughts you have read.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I am a poet and I am sharing my life or soul with you. smile

  28. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    dipless wrote:
    I will reach enlightenment, when I feel I have fullfilled every thing I want to do in life... e.g. when I have a familly with beautiful children and in a happy marrage, when I have reached the pinnical of my career and have understood all that i believe i can understand about my chosen area of expertise... Then and only then will i feel "enlightened".


    I agree with this 100%. When I have all of the answers that allow me to be fully understand life, this may be my ultimate enlightenment. As I still think one can reach different stages of enlightenment seeking to reach ultimate enlightenment.

  29. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment is such an awesome word ,as it defines many different things for different people,and those experiences change too,though seldom do we ever lose knowledge we have gained.( might appear to be ,but isnt really) all stored up in our amazing human databases ,called brains.

    Isnt that just the most amazing organ!! smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Very Well Said!! My database seems to have a virus at times as it debates it's programs.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol thank god for anti-bodies huh

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yes and Charter Internet!!

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
            Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Seems to me that someone should have been enlightened here by now as long as this thread has been going on.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      LOL Excellent. I will say that I have been enlightened by the thread, yet as for "absolute enlightenment", the search continues. lol

    2. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol  lol

  31. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    4 days is nothing wink we all love a good old debate smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes we do!!! Without debate, we would only have currency. If all minds thought alike, someone wouldn't be thinking, right?

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        we all love a good old debate-
        So do I .smile

  32. santoion profile image61
    santoionposted 7 years ago

    Every second is posible to reach enlightenment for everybody who can live in the HERE AND NOW with all being.

  33. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    indeed smile then the world would be boring sad

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I find you all so very enlightening. The world just seems, I don't know, so much brighter now since this thread was started. I now need my shades on all the time and my mind is so full of new ideas and life. thank you all so much for sharing. Now I must go enlighten my toilet for a bit.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hope you aren't constipated. That would be a barrier in enlightenment.

  35. 0
    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Well no, actually it is another problem I have been having. LOL
    http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1247.gif

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I hope it's not a pee problem. Prostate exams are no fun.

  36. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    lol

  37. Jewels profile image81
    Jewelsposted 7 years ago

    CC, you're such a warm soul to be around.  Had to tell you that.

  38. Eaglekiwi profile image76
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Mentioning Charter made me reflect a moment.

    When I located a few months back from another country to here , we had no car,no phone, radio , no tv , no internet.
    Although we could have access to a payphone and internet ( at a libray downtown,which we did use once) for 3/4 weeks ,we found ourselves sleeping better , eating better and walking alot ,since the bus system was a joke.
    But I felt transported back in time in a way , and as we became established again ( if ya can call it that) slowly the mod cons were added back into our lives again ,and it was then that I relised how demanding and intrusive our toys are!!
    I love computers ,and hubby loves TV and Music more , but a part of me misses that other life too. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, I can understand that. I think it's a matter of balance. A balance which I have not found. lol

  39. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    Ahhhh, Just noticed what the smiley is doing. Sick!!!

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image76
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ohhhh me tooo lol

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Geez. Sorry 'bout that. I dint want to stink up the forum but all this enlightenment is starting to come out me arse! I have a peeing problem too, it's called diuretics and my prostrate is fine, for now. Man I hate those exams, now that's enlightenment for sure. You all are just too smart for me. So i must go and let ya back to it now. have a good weekend fellers. Cheers! now back to my Scotch. hic

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol I actually wrote a hub on a prostate exam.

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        ralwusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well I'll have to read it. I don't like to recall mine, which have been several. My new doctor, who is really Doogie Houser, wanted to do one on my first visit with him. Really doc, I don't like to on a first date. I told him. That was tow years ago. Now He has me scheduled for one this fall. I reckon that's enough time. Chit!

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol Excellent. Best wishes. Hopefully your doc. has small fingers unlike mine.

  41. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Prostate-Exam-Violation

    Here is some prostate enlightenment. lol

  42. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    well said i hope this is true and i learn till the day i die smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I hope I learn so that I never die.

  43. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    would be nice but i think that would be quite an achievement in the literal sence, but hopefully you can make a good contribution in life so that the memory of you will never die smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Excellent perspective. I wasn't 100% sure what I meant when I typed that, I just thought it sounded good. lol However, you made an excellent point to strive for.

  44. 69
    logic,commonsenseposted 7 years ago

    I reach enlightenment every time I hit the switch.

    1. usmanali81 profile image60
      usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol lol

  45. dipless profile image85
    diplessposted 7 years ago

    lol wink Electricity is a wonderful thing big_smile

  46. 0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment must been different things to different people.
    I have recently seen a lot of things in a different light, and it helps my journey.....  understanding yourself is indeed enlightenment, as you then stop trying to be something you're never going to attain, and relax, and focus on the things you can attain...... That has been my experience, and I am all the more happy for it.....

  47. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    How enlightening can religion be when it causes so much disagreement, debate, hate? To reach enlightenment, I would guess you would need logic. To me, religion is not very logical.

    1. mohitmisra profile image60
      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Religions are paths to enlightenment by enlightened masters.Its foolish man who argues as to which is better.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Would you claim yourself as an individual or a follower? Please explain why.

  48. HealthCare Basics profile image82
    HealthCare Basicsposted 7 years ago

    Enlightenment every morning after my 2nd cup of coffee. From there, as long as I am happy being myself, confident and caring in my career, a home owner, help my friends in need,and able to pay  all the bills, I am satisfied.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Good Stuff HealthCare. Being satisfied is all that counts. I can only handle 1 cup of coffee in the morn. Gotta hate prostates.

  49. HealthCare Basics profile image82
    HealthCare Basicsposted 7 years ago

    I am a three cupper in the morning, but then I never go beyond that for the rest of the day. Otherwise, I either can't sleep restfully, or I prowl the house all night trying to stay away from munching on sweets........  smile

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Like Bruce Lee, a famous philosopher in his own right, I was enlightened when I discovered who I really am. Simplicity in the purest form.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks for sharing. I also believe recognizing true individuality is very enlightening.

    2. tksensei profile image61
      tksenseiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Bruce Lee is not a famous 'philosopher.'

      1. usmanali81 profile image60
        usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        He was a fighter

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Wot, not a Zionist?

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol   lol

          2. usmanali81 profile image60
            usmanali81posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            big_smile lol Do you know he was murdered ... by Zionists / Freemasons as his movies were becoming famous

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              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Who told you this?

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