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Quest for an Unlimited Mind

  1. marinealways24 profile image60
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    I would like to get everyones idea on whether or not you believe a mind can be unlimited.

    Do you believe it is more limiting to the mind to believe in creation or evolution?

    Do you believe it is more limiting to believe in absolutes or no absolutes?

    1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It cannot be unlimited. It is woefully limited even in the most enlightened of people. That is why it makes little to sense to take literally anything written by man (such as books in the Bible or The Qur'an), or said by man (such as most things politicians say).

      It can *feel* unlimited in certain forms of meditation, and maybe the mind can "unite" with the universe, or with God (in Christian  meditative practice), but no person's mind is limitless.

      Absolutes are usually dangerous, but there are some almost-always absolutes -- common decency is important, for example; slapping a child across the face is wrong; abusing pets is wrong; nature deserves our respect; we must begin from the assumption that all people have rights. These are more-or-less absolutes. We can't prove their truth, but I don't think we need to.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How can you say you know that no mind is limitless when you don't have everyones mind? I agree with you on some of those common sense absolutes you proposed. When you say absolutes are dangerous, how do you know it's not dangerous to think you have a limited mind as being absolute when you can't logically map it's limits?

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          This is a paradox. I cannot know that no mind is limitless. I am making an assumption.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            So, if it's limits are unmapped, why assume it has limits? Not trying to pick a fight, I like your ideas.

            1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
              AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I know my mind is limited. So I am assuming everyone else's is too. I've never met anyone whose mind seemed to be limitless. The Dalai Lama certainly does not seem to have a limitless mind; or Leonard Cohen (they both spent years meditating, hence my use of them as examples smile )

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Alright, let's go on one question at a time. Do you think it's more limiting to believe in creation, evolution, both, or neither?

                1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
                  AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  The Genesis account of Creation.

                  1. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    What about it?

    2. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Everything depends though, it is difficult to answer these questions.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol , I know, I want them to make people think. You can't be wrong.

        1. Colebabie profile image61
          Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          After reading the questions I just thought "Eh well everything depends, usually I just ask 'why?' " it didn't make me think more than that.

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Why ask the questions?

            1. Colebabie profile image61
              Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Because I have a level of satisfaction and understanding.

              1. marinealways24 profile image60
                marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                lol I meant was you asking why I am asking the questions.

                1. Colebabie profile image61
                  Colebabieposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Oh no no. It doesn't matter to me why you're asking the questions. Sorry for the confusion smile

                  1. marinealways24 profile image60
                    marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    lol It's alright, I like being confused sometimes. It's less stressful.

    3. adamareangere profile image79
      adamareangereposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I feel the we set barriers on our minds. They are capable of retaining vast amounts of information and comprehending anything, however, there are mental blocks we institute in ourselves that limit what we can sanely understand.

      I think it is more limiting to the mind to believe in evolution ... an easy out (though I believe in evolution, I also believe in a higher being). Where creation, God, and whatnot is so vast, limitless ideas on how the earth came to be, who the higher being is, etc, that there is only so much our minds can handle with that information before that mental block comes up and says ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

      Same for absolutes, we need to believe in absolutes because thinking of no absolutes is too much to fully comprehend!

      Not sure if anyone gets what I am attempting to put into words here, but there you go!

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree that we set barriers. I think the first barrier is assuming our minds are limited. I do think those blocks can be overcome in logical thought or even faithful thought. Lol I completely agree with you that the "what if's" can nearly drive a person to insanity if anyone was ever really sane to begin with. Maybe there could be no such thing as "too much to comprehend"? Great thoughts, thanks.

        1. adamareangere profile image79
          adamareangereposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Well it was an excellent topic choice, Marinealways. The human mind is an interesting thing to comprehend, many people fall short in their assumptions of what they're exactly capable of accomplishing.

          Like I always told my brothers...I do not believe in smart or stupid people. There are only those who are willing to unlock and focus their minds on improving them, where others are content to just use their "generic" mindsets. Smart people are only smart because we have struggled to overcome our natural mental barriers.

          (And no, I'm not being cocky in thinking I am smart. I know I am intelligent, just not super so) :-D

          1. marinealways24 profile image60
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks. I agree, I think many people limit themselves or allow others to limit them. I do believe we are all ignorant in something and I think we are all hypocritical or have been in the past. I think what separates the intelligent from the others are the ones that are content in their faults compared to the ones that are always trying to improve. I think a lot of people place generalizations on others based on education level, salary, or title as well when all are irrelevant. I agree, barriers are meant to be busted. Thanks.

    4. itech profile image56
      itechposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      If I wont forced by other humans & they can give me financial freedom,
      I am ready to set my mind to unlimited.

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol That has nothing to do with the questions. You can't have an unlimited mind without financial freedom? I think that is limiting to believe.

      2. DogSiDaed profile image61
        DogSiDaedposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        If a mind is limitless it would encompass everything and know every situation and everything that has ever been or will be. Time has got us up against the wall on this one tongue

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Maybe it is limited in some areas and makes up for it in other areas.

    5. Colebabie profile image61
      Colebabieposted 7 years ago

      Resort to the attitude of a 5 year-old and just ask "Why?"

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol huh? Are you saying it can or can't be limited?

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol

    6. WriteAngled profile image91
      WriteAngledposted 7 years ago

      Mind is less limited when not bound by religious dogma.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I think it can be stretched by religious mysticism, though. All religions have this tradition ( I once heard that Islam was in fact spread in the form of the Sufi tradition, chiefly; don't know if it's true). And it often stands in contrast to dogmatism

        1. WriteAngled profile image91
          WriteAngledposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I totally agree with you. However, mystics in all the major religions have always been persecuted by the dogmatists.

      2. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I agree, I think group thinking often limits individual thinking. People tend to agree with the majority when in a group.

    7. WriteAngled profile image91
      WriteAngledposted 7 years ago

      Incidentally, greetings adsensestrategies from one translator to another smile

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Welsh? wink

        1. WriteAngled profile image91
          WriteAngledposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Oh no! Wales is the land that adopted me and I love it, but the language is quite another matter. I go to Welsh class for two hours each week but the mutilations (errr mutations) are still defeating me. I translate exclusively in the medical/pharma field out of Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian, Polish, French, German and Spanish into English.

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      mtsi1098posted 7 years ago

      limits only exist for physical things but there are no limits in thinking, if you are objective...

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm sorely tempted to say you are disproving your own assertion as you type, but maybe I'll button it

    9. AdsenseStrategies profile image72
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

      Having just had a tete-a-tete (if you'll pardon the pun) with a fellow translator, also on this thread, I am reminded of how few of the world's Americans/Brits/Aussies, heck, even English-speaking Canadians, know more than one language. Given how many languages there are, how can the mind be limitless.

      Then I think of how many works there are in philosophy. How many concepts, how many schools of thought. And each time you go back to them, you say -- mmmmm, ohhhh, ahhhh, I never saw that before.

      I mean, come on, maybe there are some limitless minds out there, but without some super hardcore education, good luck even coming close to attaining it.

      Conversely, it is super dangerous to think of limitless mind *without* hardcore education. If more Americans had more education, then perhaps you wouldn't have ended up in Iraq (I take that back; those neo-cons didn't care what any of you thought either way).

      I'm not being rude. There are plenty of ignorant Brits too (my native country). But be very careful thinking you can expand your mind without some hardcore education -- most of us would fail even a first year logic course at university, let's face it

      1. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol you are making comparisons and generalizations based on faith, not logic. What is hardcore education? A person can educate themselves on and individual level as much if not more than public education. Then you are making a generalization that Americans are uneducated for the acts of government and politicians, not very logical statements. Thanks

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago

      I'm  so confused lol hmm;

     
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