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Misjudged History

  1. RGraf profile image85
    RGrafposted 8 years ago

    What things in history has been changed over the years based on the viewpoint of the age?

  2. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    Tolstoy tried to write a theory of history.

  3. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago

    History has changed a lot. It has to be written by contemporaries only. No one should rewrite history for their tastes. The original history written by natives and contemporaries should only be treated as authenticated history.  Also, when a country remained as colony under another one, its history is often distorted to suit the convenience of the colonising power.
    Like this India's history has been distorted very much by England / Britain / UK.
    Even after decolonisation in India, England tends to distort the history of India on the happenings after 15-8-1947.  Two months after Indian independence, Kashmir acceded to India through a declaration by the then Hindu Maharaja Hari Singh.  Now, writing their own "history", England argues negatively.  England's version can be described as "misjudged history" or even "motivated history".

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    "No one should rewrite history for their tastes." Actually do not most rewrite history for their own tastes - take for instance you yourself.

    1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
      VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I am not a history writer. But I am distressed when an incident is described falsely.  I have no taste whatsoever, except truth.  For some, truth sours.

      1. ASHWINSPGA profile image61
        ASHWINSPGAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah right, we saw how you try to conveniently  alter history to fit into your war mongering arguements  that Singapore was once a capital of India. I provided you the links to refresh your mind about Singapore's history and im still waiting for you to produce the links which states Singapore was an Indian captial once. or is it that you can't seem to to find any at the moment? Heard of the Wiki before? lol

        1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
          VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Mr.Ashwin, have you ever gone to Esplanade in Singapore and found out a memorial in memory of Indian National Army?  The same was led by Subash Chandra Bose, the distinguished freedom fighter of India from 1943 to 45. He went to Japan to seek help in his freedom struggle.  The Japanese place at his command all the British Indian soldiers captured as POWs.  That became the INA, combined with civilian recruits from India.

          These can be searched in Google and other sources.

          I dont feel shy of saying that my land was once captured by the Muslims and Christians from West Asia and Europe.  History cannot be changed.  But as I have a son like you, I request you not to engage in uncivilised accusations on others.

          1. ASHWINSPGA profile image61
            ASHWINSPGAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Again you only diverting this into another matter altogether. Im not asking whether Subash Chandra Bose, is a freedom fighter or where he fought or who he fought for.or whether you have a son of my age. all im asking is to prove what you posted in that other thread . that singapore was the first capital of India. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/10140?page=3
            Why cant you prove what you said in your forum post? or is it a story you created for your own convenience? Im off. this is getting pointless seeing you only diverting the subject rather than answering the question.

  5. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    I heard that in England they stopped teaching anything related to the Holocasut, so it does not "offend" the Muslims. (Who, I believe either deny it, or don't believe it ever happened).
    I think that's going too far!

    1. Sufidreamer profile image81
      Sufidreamerposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Hi aka-dj smile

      Checked that one with my sister, a teacher, and she says that it is not true. Can't speak for the private schools, though.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        aka dj, like many Christians "hears" a lot of things. I see that a lot (from my own experiences). For some reason they often start a sentence with, "I have heard....." or " It is said...." or "I gather...." or "Many say....." whatever. Never backed up with any source and never findable anywhere.

        Wonder why that is?............

        1. Misha profile image74
          Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          LOL Mark, you killed me with your new avatar. Mercenary, hands down lol

          Guess it's time for me to think about new one, too smile

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            Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Nah, yacht owner/drug overlord portrait.  smile smile

          2. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            big_smile

            Angels come in many forms my son........ big_smile

    2. LondonGirl profile image91
      LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Don't worry, it's a dead granny story. The BBC wrote about it:

      "E-mails are circulating, falsely claiming the UK has banned schools from teaching pupils about the Holocaust.

      The suggestion is that this was done by the government to avoid offending some Muslim communities.

      The source of the rumour may be a report that some history teachers were uncomfortable with sensitive subjects.

      In fact the government has reaffirmed that in England, teaching children about the Holocaust is compulsory, and it is not banned elsewhere in the UK."

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6563429.stm

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    CRANTELListheNAMEposted 8 years ago

    My school doesn't seem to know the correct facts on the Japanese-American internment camps in The US during WWII.

  7. ejb profile image61
    ejbposted 8 years ago

    I attend a private school and the Holocaust is taught.
    My experience of History as an A2 student is that each account from an author - be it a book or an extract, is influenced by who they are and their bias towards a certain situation. It is this factor which makes History interesting - from several different viewpoints we can understand the points of view which was upheld by different parties.
    Without a bias / influence, History would just be facts.

  8. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Australia was settled on a false history. According to the British establishment the country was empty.
    Is this why we still treat our aboriginal people like second rate citizens while we occupy their land?

    1. Pest profile image60
      Pestposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Much like "Indians" were savages here in the U.S..  We not only occupy their land but we have all but exterminated them.  Guess who or what religion was prominent during this time and still dominates to this day?

      1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
        VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        The Indians in US (America) were called "Red Indians".  They were not savages... they led a strict and disciplined life. Their civilisation is better than their killers, they had no guns... that is all.  The English gangsters came and killed them with their guns, which was new to the American natives.  Being killed are called savages.... What will you call the killers?

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    Leta Sposted 8 years ago

    Women were basically written out of his-story because they were not the one's holding the pens.

    Old feminist saw, but unfortunately, it is true.

  10. LondonGirl profile image91
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    "History is written in the victor's camp"

    I think Churchill said that - he certainly said, "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it"

  11. JYOTI KOTHARI profile image75
    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 8 years ago

    What is Holocaust and why is it considered anti-Muslim?

  12. LondonGirl profile image91
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    The Holocaust is the name often given to the mass murder carried out by Nazi Germany during the Second World War. The victims were Jews, Communists, homosexuals, and Gypsies, among others.

    1. Misha profile image74
      Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Never heard communists, homosexuals and gypsies using this word in relation to themselves.

  13. LondonGirl profile image91
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    It's certainly right to say that the most frequent usage is in relation to the "Final Solution" to kill Europe's Jews.

  14. Misha profile image74
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    Yep, may be politically incorrect, but historically correct smile

  15. greathub profile image79
    greathubposted 8 years ago

    This quote reflects how historians of different nations perceive history.


    Bertrand Russell, the famous British philosopher writes:

        "The supremacy of the East was not only military. Science, philosophy, poetry, and the arts, all flourished in the Muhammadan world at a time when Europe was sunk in barbarism. Europeans, with unpardonable insularity, call this period 'The Dark Ages': but it was only in Europe that it was dark—indeed only in Christian Europe, for Spain, which was Mohammedan, had a brilliant culture."

  16. LondonGirl profile image91
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    You've misread the sarcastic reference to "savages" I think.

    1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image60
      VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      "Much like "Indians" were savages here in the US".... 

      How can this be misread ?

      1. LondonGirl profile image91
        LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Because if you then read the next lines it's clear that the writer is saying this was the attitude to the Indians, not the reality:

        "We not only occupy their land but we have all but exterminated them.  Guess who or what religion was prominent during this time and still dominates to this day?"

 
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