Family Guy Hacks A Cat To Death: Humor Or Repugnance?

From the April 19, 2009 Family Guy, after Peter has sliced a household pet cat to death with a straight razor.
From the April 19, 2009 Family Guy, after Peter has sliced a household pet cat to death with a straight razor.

That's it. I'm not going to sit here any longer and do nothing but jaw with supporters of Family Guy on my Hub

How Seth MacFarlane Demolished Modern Civilization

... since it's "such a funny cartoon show."

Last night's episode left me queasy and nauseous to the point where I couldn't watch any longer.

I've just sent this letter to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) through media channels and intend to follow up to ensure that action is taken.

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As a leading blogger on the number one internet publishing platform HubPages, I have railed against Seth MacFarlane and Fox Network's Family Guy for unethical and repugnant subject matter which has no right to be shown on the public airwaves of the nation:

In "Barely Legal" a woman has sex with a dog taped to a chair.
In "Family Gay", a ten person orgy is clearly shown.
In "McStroke", pedophilia is clearly shown.
In "Stewie Loves Lois", a child prepares to murder his mother.

However, in the episode of Family Guy aired last night, April 19, 2009, this following scene completely left me disgusted, nauseated and revolted:

A group of characters including Peter enter the home of a friend to kill their cat. Peter exclaims: "Yeah! Shaving time, ok, hand me the razor." Peter grabs the household pet cat, holds him down and slices. Blood splatters all over him while the cat screams. "Will you guys relax he's got eight more lives (slices again) Ok, seven more lives, (slices again) six, (slices again) five, (slices again) four, (slices again) three..."

As a lifelong animal lover I cannot possibly imagine the effect that this scene can have on children, showing one of their cartoon heroes savagely killing and desecrating the corpse of a household pet.

I find no redeeming social value to a young impressionable child channel surfing and watching what to all outward appearances is a fun kiddie cartoon and ending up viewing a man mutilating a household pet or a half naked woman trying to have sex with a tied-up dog, whether the dog is anthropomorphosized or not.

I see no reason why the public airwaves must feature content which not only promotes felonies, pornography, bestiality, animal mutilation, and other forms of horrific violent nihilism, but wraps them in a cartoon format to specifically appeal to young people.

I have been advocating that Fox remove Family Guy from the broadcast airwaves, and either put it on an XXX rated satellite channel which is for adults only, or package it in a DVD format and sell it in adult stores. If Family Guy is on the public airwaves which are administered by the FCC on behalf of the people of the United States, then it needs to be removed immediately as pornography.

PETA has a long history of activism against television broadcasters who promote animal cruelty. From Reuters on August 15, 2007 with regards to a Gaza TV station airing footage of a cat being swung by his tail:

"It's shocking and sickening," said Martin Mersereau, manager of the domestic animal abuse division of U.S.-based People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

Speaking to Reuters by telephone, he said PETA was drafting a letter of protest to the Gaza-based al-Aqsa television station, which aired the show -- aimed at teaching children not to abuse animals -- last week.

"Any lessons meant to be contained in this segment are almost certainly lost on most children, who are more likely to imitate people they see treating animals cruelly rather than understand this behavior is wrong," Mersereau said.

If PETA took this level of action with a single television station in a very small market and audience, I hereby formally request that your agency act immediately and forcefully against a television program promoting the massacre of a household pet viewed last night by millions of Americans.

Sincerely

Hal Licino

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I'm not rolling over on this one. I'm going to do everything I can to ensure that PETA acts on this perverted, violent, and inexcusable scene.

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Sue Bailey 7 years ago from South Yorkshire, UK

And people wonder why kids are so screwed up nowadays!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

... because we as adults and citizens sit idly by without speaking up when criminals bombard our children with images of intolerable perversions wrapped up in a cute little cartoon package. Shame on all sane and rational citizens and parents who do not act against this outrage!


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quicksand 7 years ago

Makes me sick too.


Steve 7 years ago

You're so right a cartoon is just like real life better call PETA, im gonna go skin a thousand cats now that ive seen this episode!!! YAYYYYY!!!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

quicksand, you're right. steve, you're a disgusting moron.


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Christa Dovel 7 years ago from The Rocky Mountains, North America

Tho the earlier perverseness are more revolting to me, this is terrible. If you are going to kill something, do it humanly and not for sport! Killing is not a game, and it is not funny.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I agree fully Christa Dovel. I'm certainly placing the various perversions with regards to Christ, Jews, pedophilia, orgies, AIDS-bashing, et al. in a completely different and higher sphere than the chopping up of a cartoon cat, as a lifelong animal lover I'm not going to let MacFarlane get away with this. As I stated earlier, I will apply as much pressure on PETA as I possibly can to act swiftly and decisively.


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Christa Dovel 7 years ago from The Rocky Mountains, North America

I saw on the blog that you were successful at influencing iPhone, so I am sure you will get PETA's attention with this.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I guess I'm turning out to be a mild mannered bespectacled reporter who has a secret identity as the scourge of huge corporations! :)


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

I will not be watching Family Guy in future, having watched only small segments of a handful that happned to contain some humor. The cat scene you described so well is absolutely inapproriate and I applaud your actions against the show. The list of other Abominations - and that is what that are termed by my Nigerian contacts before the law executes the perpetrators - should be obliterated.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

This is why I don't watch Family Guy.

Keep on Hubbing!


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Staci-Barbo7 7 years ago from North Carolina

If these subjects were depicted with real LIVE non-cartoon characters, there is no doubt that the American public would be outraged and the people involved would be prosecuted fully under our laws. The depiction of this perversity in cartoon format does not make it less odious.

I am not certain how can this kind of gratuitous profanity make it onto the airways without being censored from the show. Since the censors are obviously not doing their job of securing our airwaves from this repugnance, anyone who cares about America's moral goodness and our collective example to our children should work to see this series permanently canceled.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Patty Inglish, MS; eovery; and Staci-Barbo7: I can add nothing to your comments other than my complete agreement and profound thanks for your support. Let's keep the pressure up... and coming off the victory OF ALL HUBBERS against Apple which got the corporation to pull that racist network TV commercial:

http://hubpages.com/technology/Apples-New-TV-Ad-Us...

...we can get Fox to remove that ghastly scene from future airings and syndication. Let's continue to make the voices of ethics and sensibility be heard!


Family Guy Watcher 7 years ago

Censors? Come on guys why are we wound so damn tight? I think family guy is hilarious and no I'm not some lunatic who isn't adjusted to civilized life. Why do we want to censor everything just because we suck at being parents now a days. If you don't like the show don't watch it, block it from your kids being able to watch it, but don't block it for everyone else who loves the show.

Now I admit it might be on during the wrong times and the wrong network, might be better off on Adult Swim late night. I think that should be your only gripe is that it's usually on during times kids can easily be viewing it.

Because it's a cartoon it can get away with the senseless violence or really harsh jokes. To think that this somehow influences the country and makes people violent and all that garbage just goes to once again show you how far we've slipped as parents. A child's biggest influence is their parents, not some silly cartoon, get real.

The whole PETA crap??? Why are we so sensitive? We concentrate so much on banning everything instead of doing the real work. We want governments and organizations to make our lives so easy, ban all the bad shows so we don't have to watch our kids, ban everything that we might have the chance of causing us to make a bad decision. Why don't we stop being lazy and educate ourselves and our youth so these types of things never influence them. Only a moron or uneducated highly influential person would be swayed by the stupid events that occur on Family Guy on a regular basis.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

"I admit it might be on during the wrong times and the wrong network."

I agree fully.

"Only a moron or uneducated highly influential person would be swayed by the stupid events that occur on Family Guy on a regular basis."

My point is that there are many "morons" watching FG and it is not a far cry for any one of them to try and emulate their "hero" by chopping up some innocent household pet. Years ago, I intervened when a couple of youths were setting fire to a kitten. I am not going to stand idly by when that outrageous cruelty is practiced OR PROMOTED. And IMHO anyone who does not ACTIVELY OPPOSE such acts is spineless and abominable.

I have a conscience. Does everyone else?


Dave 7 years ago

Totally agree. This kind of crap just shows what a douche Seth MacFarlane really is. He should be ashamed of himself. I will never watch this show again as a result. There will be "morons" out there who will think the scene is funny and try to immitate this, and even if it's only one "moron" that does it, that's one too many.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Thanks Dave. You're absolutely right. This is exactly the sort of act that can be emulated and that must be stopped.


Steve 7 years ago

What is really weird is that Peter only skinned the cat for about fifteen seconds and no actual animation was shown of the cat and that is enough to get this sensitive fool here offended to the point of writing an entire hub page....get a life. Dont you think that Seth and Fox like when people talk about their show this much? Negative attention is still attention so by complaining this much you really are accomplishing nothing except looking like a fool.

and im a little shocked that you ignored the rest of the show which had a dog and baby handing out bags of reefer, proclaiming everything is better with a bag of weed! you must be a pot head too right on Hal!

P.S. it was a fake cat homie, i dont see how PETA can be offended that an animated cat was skinned on a cartoon. if they are and it is bad enough to take Family Guy off the air i will lose complete faith in this nation. We as a people have become far too touchy and need to lighten up.

I think we should all evaluate our lives and wonder how a freaking cartoon upsets so many people and just have a good laugh about that.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

First of all I clearly explained that I turned the FG episode off at that cat scene. There is nothing else that Seth MacFarlane can show me that would convince me any more that he is a degenerate that needs to be locked away from innocent civilians.

Steve, I have a life. A real good one. And you know what some of the favorite parts of my life are? Setting misguided young people like yourself straight so that they will realize that their myopic, perverted, nihilistic, egotistical, anti-social and anarchic world view is not only completely erroneous, but hopelessly self-destructive. You are a teenager who like many others can't see past their noses due to the fog of their hormones and highly unfortunate latch-key upbringing. As you mature, you will either comprehend the error of your ways, or you'll end up in jail or living in a cardboard box. Remember that Uncle Hal tried to help you out of the tumult and turbulence of your misbegotten youth! :)


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tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

Completely revolting a case In point of why we are the sick society that we are.


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

What can I say Hal? If there is a demand, there will be a supply...


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tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

Misha does make a good point , It represents to me how dumbed down we have become If this Is considered funny . Good humor actually has some level of sophistication to It !


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

tony0724, yes, it is completely revolting and there is no justification for this to be aired on a broadcast network. And yes, we are now firmly in the age of scatological sophomoric humor. Lucille Ball, Jackie Gleason, Buster Keaton and all the other greats are turning in their graves.

Misha, I'm not objecting to the existence of FG, as perverse and despicable as it may be. I'm objecting to a major TV network being able to air such content in prime time. I have no problem with FG fanatics demanding their show and Hollywood supplying it. ON DVD.


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tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

Hal you are growing on me !


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

Well, Fox wouldn't air it if there was no demand from its audience I think. And freedom of speech is a double-edged sword :)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

tony0724, please no. My waistline is already immense enough. I don't want to grow anything any more! :)

Misha, I assure you that if Fox started Saturday Snuff Movies, they might outdraw American Idol's ratings. Hey, I'm certain that millions of people would tune in every week to see a new, young, gorgeous bikini'd starlet get eviscerated on national TV. If we, as citizens, allow our public broadcast media to cater to all our most perverse urges, then we might as well change its name from Fox Network to Coliseum Network. :(


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

I heard the Fox is bad. And what is bad with Coliseum?


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Er... nothing if you like lions ripping people apart and gladiator fights to the death! :)

But then again, it would be the #1 Network in America. How sad. :(


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

Ah, you about that part :) But then again, it was that way for thousands if not millions of years before us. May be this is what real humanity is?


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

It may be. If so, please show me the door. I have no wish to participate in a society that glorifies sadistic nihilism. It's really getting to be time to head out to that cabin in the wilderness, my friend! :(


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Whitney05 7 years ago from Georgia

Don't watch it... The show has a large popularity, and I highly doubt even PETA can shut it off. The show is crud humor. There are even more incidents of pedophilia, murder, alcohol, etc, than mentions.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

OK... now please stop millions of children from watching it too. Popularity means nothing. If ethics does not supercede our basal impulses to sadism and violence, then we are not humans at all, but hyenas.


Bill 7 years ago

If you can't handle the hilarious things that Family Guy offers, DO NOT WATCH IT! It's your choice whether to watch it or not. This show is hilarious, if you can't handle the humor, Watch Desperate Housewives instead. You made way to big of a deal out of this.


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Whitney05 7 years ago from Georgia

It's up to parents to control what they're children are watching. Not PETA from shutting down a show. Do you realize the uproar that would happen?


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Bill, I'm an adult, and I assume you are too. You have choices that you can make through your maturity. That does NOT apply to a 8 year old sitting in front of the tube watching a household pet be massacred.

Whitney05, Whether its PETA, the FCC, or Obama shutting it down is irrelevant. FG does not belong on the public airwaves. Period.


Cynthia 7 years ago

Hal Licino: "My point is that there are many "morons" watching FG and it is not a far cry for any one of them to try and emulate their "hero" by chopping up some innocent household pet. Years ago, I intervened when a couple of youths were setting fire to a kitten. I am not going to stand idly by when that outrageous cruelty is practiced OR PROMOTED."

TV is not the demise of our country or our youth. This is a direct result of bad parenting. I watch Family Guy on FOX and Cartoon Network (it makes no difference what channel it comes on) but my children DO NOT. Yes it's a cartoon but my children understand the word "no." It is not up to the Fox network or Seth McFarlane to make parental decisions.

In reguards to the "morons" out there: So the rest of us should constantly go around walking on eggshells, censoring what we watch and say just so that we aren't blamed when ignorance occurs. Even if all networks suddenly turned PBS it would not stop violence, it would not stop animal cruelty, it would not prevent or cease any form of criminal/cruel behavior. Who/what would you blame then?

Case in both points: back when kids were only watching Andy Griffith and Leave it to Beaver, little boys were still burning ants with magnifying glasses and blowing up frogs with firecrackers. Cruel? Yes. But learned from TV? No. Not a single solitary serial killer credits their crime to TV, it's either pyschosis or the cruelty of adults in their life. Youths in gangs spend more time on the streets than in front of a TV. When children do imitate TV it is not "shame on them from showing that" it's "shame on us for allowing them to watch it."


Steve 7 years ago

Hal what exactly drives you to clean up the airwaves? why do you care what kids watch, and why do you care about their parents letting them? Why do you care about a CARTOON THIS MUCH? dude lighten up...


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Cynthia:

1) You cannot compare killing insects to cruelty to household pets.

2) My conscience has informed me since birth that I must oppose animal cruelty in any form, for any reason. I pity anyone who does not share that conscience.

3) Parents are fully responsible for what their children watch. However, we are not in a perfect world. Parents have many other things to occupy their time than to act as a 24 hour security guard. They should be able to trust THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES to not pervert their children.

4) I do not call for censorship of FG, as repugnant as it is. I call for the immediate withdrawal from THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES and its restriction to any other medium which can be controlled, such as ADULT DVD.

Steve:

Animal cruelty has no excuse. No one is going to cut up a cat on my watch and get away with it, dude. Cartoon or not.


Spod 7 years ago

in barely legal, does she REALLY have sex with a dog tied to a chair? does she REEEALLY? wanna rewatch the episode and get back to me with that one? And in family gay, is an orgie clearly shown, is it REEEALLY!?

1.Grow up, its an adult cartoon, which treads close to the line, so if you don't like that don't watch.

2. Stop exaggerating things.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

In Barely Legal she is wearing underwear and straddling the duct-taped dog. Yeah REEEALY. and in Family Gay there's an orgy. REEEALY. I'm not addressing the SAME STUPID statement of "don't watch". Get the hell off my Hub if you're going to be a parrot.


Spod 7 years ago

But wait a minute, in your original post, did you not say a woman "has sex with a dog" strapped to a chair? She clearly doesn't, and the way you write it is as if the act is animal cruelty in the show. Brian may be a dog, but his character is clearly not portrayed as a normal, everyday, vulnerable dog. So you bringing that up as a scene you have an issue with, and exagerating it, is really rather pathetic. Family gay, you said 'a 10 person orgy is clearly shown'. Again you exagerated, and have changed it in your latest post to 'there is an orgy'. I havn't read the entire discussion, so that's why i may be repeating things already said, the fact that its being repeated should tell you something though. With your one argument to my comment being so futile i don't think ill bother reading the rest of the messages either, grow up and stop trying to create something big.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

What do you want to see? The dog's penis penetrate a human vagina? You're sick, Spod. Truly and profoundly sick. In Barely Legal what is shown is bestiality, clear and simple. In Family Gay there is a 10 person orgy, clear and simple. Go watch your FG and further your perversions. You're a lost cause, dude.


Spod 7 years ago

Haha, i seriously can't believe how ridiculous your arguments are. I mean, you went from totally exaggerating and then backtracking on your own statements, when caught doing that you have tried to imply meaning to my message. You havn't even done that well either, you have tried to add implied meaning to my message in the most childish way. Seriously i know 8 year olds who could of responded in a more adult manner. Anyone reading this now with a brain cell will see your attempts to fight your corner are weak and childish, and you don't deserve people to take you seriously or give you any credibility. In barely legal, its not beastiality "plain and simple" ,it may be a storyline loosely based on that theme, but as i said, Brian is hardly portrayed as a dog in the show. He is another character, simple as. I dunno if you realised but he talks you see, that sort of drags away from his animal characteristics. In Family gay there are noises of an orgy going on, i havn't counted the number of people involved because quite simply, im not that sad, clear and simple. At the end of the day you stated the orgy was clearly shown, when it definitely isn't.

I love your last comment , 'your a lost cause' , do you really think people are going to read your message, see your final statement and think 'Yeah that spod guy is sick!' ? Because even a complete dunce can tell who is on the back foot here, who is clutching at straws for an exagerated and pointless piece of writing they have done, and who clearly needs to grow up and find something to do with your time.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Sick. Very sick. You and anyone else advocating bestiality, animal cruelty, etc. are all fundamentally ill individuals. Seek psychiatric advice for your own sake and that of society.

I've had enough of your pointless broken record of unsustainable defense of the indefensible, Spod. Unless you start saying something different than just reiterating your insistence on perversions over and over again, I'm not publishing your comments.


Reader 7 years ago

Spod comments are logical falacies.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I'm not quite clear on what you're saying, but if you're stating that Spod's comments are centered on fallacies, I certainly agree.


Spod 7 years ago

elaborate


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

No prob. What you're stating is a fallacy. It is not defensible. I'm also not going to bog down this Hub with a ping pong game between us. I've stated my opinion. You've stated yours. You're wrong. I'm right. That settles it. :)


Spod 7 years ago

No, what you mean is, your not going to allow my smarter, and more thouroughly and well formed arguments, which you clearly cannot retaliate to in an adult manner, to be displayed on your blog. Which most people will be realising, is laughable, and childish, and they won't even be wasting their time posting their thoughts. I don't know why im wasting my time either, you havn't allowed various well written and fair comments i have made.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Smart, well formed arguments? Supporting the right to show bestiality and animal cruelty on prime time broadcast? Take a hike and take the rest of the perverts with you. I told you. No more ping pong. Make original points or disappear.


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tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

I am with Hal Spod It shows your Intellect or lack thereof !


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Thanks tony0724. I appreciate your support, and it's nice to see that the majority of rational people in this world still have ethics and moral values!


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

The last of the Spod posts indicates to me that its role here is to waste others' time, provoke reactions for a sense of achievement.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Well, Patty, I have this Hub set on Moderate Comments, so if Spod has something new and unique to add to the conversation, regardless of his viewpoint, I will be please to publish it. If he just wants to get his lolz he'll stay in electronic limboland for ever more. :)


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Deltachord 7 years ago from United States

Family Guy--in the first place the title in concert with the ideas presented on this show are incompatible. It degrades what a father should be. The show is a sewer. it isn't entertainment and it isn't funny. It is vulgar and perverse. It is totally irrelegious.

It is the product of the spiritual vaccum of the writers, director, and producer of the program.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I'm completely with you, Deltachord. Just look at the opening lyrics to the theme song:

It seems today that all you see

is violence in movies and sex on TV

but where are those good ol' fashioned values

on which we used to rely

lucky there's a family guy

lucky there's a man who'll positively can do

all the things that make us

laugh and cry

he's a family guy

I'm profoundly offended by this bait and switch tactic. If you didn't know any better you would think that this was a show that would support family values instead of being the one of the most (if not the most) blatantly egregious violators of morality on broadcast television!


Cynthia 7 years ago

Do not misconstrue my comment, I'm strongly opposed to animal cruelty (and I never stated otherwise.) I donate to the ASPCA and I spent my youth volunteering in animal shelters. But that's to help REAL animals.

No cats were harmed in the making of a cartoon. Do you protest against Tom and Jerry or the Simpson's as well? I don't mean to facetious but what shows ARE appropriate for us all to watch on TV??? Where does it stop? You are complaining that violence toward animals is being put on a more open public-like forum. Well, the public library is a similar forum, should we go back to burning books as well? Should authors or publicists censor books just because they know there is a possibility that a copy could end up on a library shelf?

But more importantly I truly hope that the majority of parents in America do not think as you do. I would never to sit my child in front of a TV and turn on an iffy network like FOX just because I'm too busy. FOX is not a "public" station (PBS is "public airwaves") and FG clearly has a "TV-MA" in the top left hand corner. I highly doubt that anyone who owns a TV does not know the type of programming that comes on FOX. I "trust" that FOX is a business and that they will do whatever it is that makes them more money. They are a profitable business not a personal babysitter or a morality conference. I know this because FOX took FG off of the air years ago and then reintroduced it.

I am a bit shocked that you excuse away the parents negligence by saying "we are not in a perfect world" but apparently expect our network TV to take up the slack and air only kid friendly TV that doesn't offend anyone. So you've presented your own answer to your own issue "we are not in a perfect world" and unfortunately for some people our television reflects that very fact. I personally still believe that parents who don't expect to be "24 security guards" should not be parents at all. Parenting is in fact a 24/7 job and if a parent does not love his/her children enough to do their job and protect them, then what makes you or anyone else think that the FOX network is going to pick up the slack and do it for them??? I think that parental negligence is a far worse crime than the airing of a clearly labeled "Mature Audience" cartoon.

Bottom line, FOX doesn't care about the public/youth, it's not their job to care. They get paid to air shows that make money and they are the top network on TV at the moment. It wasn't real, it was a cartoon. Taking family guy off of the air and making it an adult DVD would likely not prevent a single incident of REAL animal cruelty.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Cynthia, I'm happy to learn that your stand is against animal cruelty. I do not agree with the comparison towards Golden Age cartoon: They did not even come close to the barbarity of slicing up a household pet, blood spurting everywhere, and then holding up mutilated body parts. When Peter on FG performs that action, it is inevitable that it will be seen by some impressionable young people as acceptable and THEN animals will suffer. As I said before, that's not going to happen on my watch, and I will continue to do everything I can to prevent that.

Maybe the next episode of FG will have Peter anally rape a baby and then rip his intestines out. I'm sure that somebody will stand up for Fox's right to show this on the public airwaves which are owned by the American people. (All broadcast television, not just PBS, is ON PUBLIC AIRWAVES regulated by the FCC on behalf of the American government.)

Well... they'd be wrong. They're wrong on the cat slicing and they're wrong on the baby rape.

Reasoned, legitimate, entertainment which does not promote violent felonies belongs on the public airwaves. Everything else should be restricted to those individuals who specifically seek it out.

That's my position, and it stands unwavering.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Antoine, I fully agree that PETA does outstanding work to prevent real animal cruelty, but you prove my point right in your comment: "Do you know how many monkeys wound up in pet shops (stolen from their natural habitats and shipped to pet shops) because of "Friends"?" So I ask you, do you know how many cats might get massacred because of that FG scene? Even if it's ONE, and I can do something... ANYTHING to prevent it, then it's more than worth the effort. I also fully agree with your statements: "condones the belief that cats don’t matter and can be tortured “for fun”", "Only a deranged sociopath woud find that joke funny. And the holding up of the cat paw, was just …disturbing.", "Family Guy has become pathetic" and many more. There is no reason why FG should be on a broadcast network. It HAS to be removed.

Beaks, dog doo is better than FG since at least it fertilizes the soil beneath it. All scenes like this in FG promote the growth of is sadism, hate, and violence.

mdawson17, if all parents believed what you do, not only would FG have never hit the airwaves, but the world would be a far better place!

Rob Jundt, thanks! I wish that FG was only available on satellite on an Adult XXX channel, but anyone with a conventional television antenna anywhere in North America can be subjected to FG's perversions. I appreciate the kind words. Much appreciated! :)

Deltachord, thanks and please tell Gates that none of his buddies is ever going to get the Peter treatment if Hal has anything to say abou it! :)


BobbyTx 7 years ago

You know, if it bothers you this much, you don't have to watch it. There's a lot to be said for personal will power. Obviously you like to watch the show so you have to take the good with the bad. That's the problem with this Country now, everyone is worried about what the other person is doing instead of keeping the crap clean in their own backyard.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

As I stated earlier I am not addressing the SAME OLD STUPID STATEMENT of "don't watch."

NOTICE TO ALL COMMENTORS. I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE BARACK OBAMA AND ARE CONGRATULATING ME FOR MY BRILLIANCE, IF YOUR COMMENT CONTAINS A STATEMENT TELLING ME TO "NOT WATCH" FG, YOU WILL BE DELETED. IF YOU HAVE A REAL POINT TO MAKE, MAKE IT.

As for BobbyTx, I have absolutely no problem with the crap piling up in your backyard. I just don't want your crap seeping into my house through the FCC regulated public airwaves.


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

Is it effective to contact the show's sponsors and report that we will not be watching in future and further, not purchsing the sponsors' goods/services, etc. and, in fact, will be encouraging others not to do so as well?


sissybearsheba 7 years ago

well peta kills animals too, so that be like calling a murderer, to stop another murderer. besides, it was a cartoon, i and most likely every person with realistic parents, learned that it's not real, yes it's screwed up, but what's peta, or anyone else for that matter, going to do, arrested peter griffen? now when every family guy fan starts slautering cats, then ill be concerned


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Patty Inglish, boycotts are rarely effective as it always boils down to numbers. FG regularly is viewed by 8 million people in the USA alone, so for a boycott to have any noticeable effect the number of people contacing the sponsors would have to be in the hundreds of thousands. It's sad, but that's the reality of the situation.

sissybearsheba, I can assure you that every FG fan is not going to start slaughtering cats unless they slaughter me first. And I can call anyone anything I want as I don't work for PETA or any other organization.


Willow Ufgood 7 years ago

Te episode has already spawned a real-life attack on a cat in Seattle.


SebastianFort 7 years ago

Kids are NOT SUPPOSED TO WATCH FAMILY GUY! I would think - and hope - a 16 or 15 year old would be the youngest watching it.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Willow Ufgood, I've just checked the news articles and can't find a direct correlation between the Seattle Church Cat stabbing and FG. Can you assist?

Sebastian Fort, I agree fully. But apparently FG recently was the #1 rated show among youth ages 12-17. So there are millions of parents who apparently can't be bothered to keep this electronic sewage away from their kids!


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

The funny thing is Hal, that the airwaves are not public. Sure the government claims control over them, but that's just because they want the right to sell monopolies to television providers.

It's really funny how you castigate a cartoon show and ascribe to it all manner of evils but you say nothing about the parents of children who allow their children to do as they wish.

While it might be nice to get up on your soapbox and tell the world how offended you are, the fact remains that real people deal with real problems every day. Perhaps rather than rant over something imaginary, you could take your compassion and put it to good use.

Understand, you will never change anyone's mind about anything.The only thing that makes a difference in this world is y our actions and what you choose to do. Just because the world doesn't work according the scripture of Hal, doesn't mean that the world is at fault. You are.

You've shown that you're arrogant beyond belief, you place animals on a pedestal above children and you attack people personally and ascribe to them all manner of evil, rather than attack their arguments. You, sir, are a true modern day liberal.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Dear ledefensetech. I wonder if you have ever read any of my other Hubs where it is aptly clear that I am an archconservative whose politics are well to the right of the late Jesse Helms. Thus your characterization of me as a liberal is nothing short of hilarious. Allow me to counter your arguments:

1) It is to be expected in blog comments to throw mud around, but kindly show me where I have ever "placed animals on a pedestal above children".

2) I strongly chastise any parent who lets a child watch FG. However, short of cloning myself and placing each clone next to each remote control accessible to a child in a home which has no parental media discipline, I am putting my "compassion to good use" by using the media vector of HubPages to reach a wide variety of readers and informing them of this subject.

3) Who is the government, sir? Is it not "We The People"? And since when does the FCC sell television broadcast frequencies?

4) You are profoundly mistaken when you state that I "will never change anyone's mind about anything". Just last week through my own writings on this site alone, I caused Apple Computer to withdraw an offensive national network television commercial:

http://hubpages.com/technology/Apples-New-TV-Ad-Us...

Therefore, sir, I do not ascribe to you any level of evil. I do ascribe to your comments, however, irrational incoherence and profound fallacy. Kindly get your facts straight and we can continue this discourse.


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

To respond to your points:

1. The fact that you demand that family guy be taken off the air because you find it repugnant that a cartoon animal was butchered while saying or dismissing the fact that no parent should let their child watch that show proves that you place animal rights above those of children.

2. You're arrogant in thinking that just because of you, people are informed of this show. People make their own decisions by their own lights irrespective of what you think. What you're doing here is looking for affirmation for your views. Which is your right. Just don't think that you're part of any type of a crusade.

3. The government is bureaucrats and paid off politicians. It has never been "We the People". The FCC has control over the airwaves and mass media companies have in the past bought frequencies that they can broadcast. The same holds true for cellphones, albiet a different frequency, but there you go. The government sells access to the airwaves.

4. I doubt very much it was you who made Apple change their mind. I'm sure it was the millions of their customers who expressed outrage over their commercial that changed Apple's mind. Again an amazing amount of arrogance. Apple doesn't care about you, they care about their bottom line.

As for being to the Right of Jesse Helms, that I can believe. Your comments have all the hallmarks of a National Socialist "the state is the Father of us all" ring to it. Then again, according to the Communists, the state is the mother of us all, so is there really a difference between the left and the right? Or at least the extremes of Left and Right?

You are correct, I'm new to hubpages and haven't yet read your other hubs. I'm not quite sure if I will or not. What I've seen so far doesn't speak much towards your intellect or education.

As for my writing, it's very coherent and well written. As you can see I have a command of the English language and can even write sentences. In addition I have been somewhat classically trained, I say somewhat because most of my post-secondary education has been self-taught out of necessity. Regrettably the level of education in this country has been on a downward slope for well over a century.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

1) Again, sir, you dive into subjects you have peripheral if any knowledge of. Kindly read the original Hub on the subject which is referenced at the top of this page and you will see that this transgression by MacFarlane is only the latest in a long string of content I have strongly objected to.

2) I crusade against nothing. I express my opinions in the same forum of HubPages as you express yours.

3) Read my Hubs about my opinion of politicians, and you will be informed that few people trust them less than I. However, I cannot let your erroneous statement stand. The FCC has never sold UHF or VHF television broadcast spectrum to networks or local stations. Period.

4) It truly does gall me when I get attacked on my own Hubs discrediting me when empirical evidence unanimously proves me correct. Please read:

http://blog.hubpages.com/2009/04/hal-licinos-hub-p...

... and then you can apologize.

You have erroneously accused me of being a liberal and now you also erroneously accuse me of being a Nazi. The latter is a very serious charge and one I do not take lightly. My dear sir, may I please enquire as to why you find it suitable to throw around such derogatory and unfounded epithets? You come onto my Hub with entirely unjustified insult guns blazing, and it leaves me to wonder what the reason is that you have a chip on your shoulder the size of a forest. Before I knock it off, may I also enquire as to what your problem is? It's obviously sizeable.


John C. 7 years ago

I can't believe there are losers defending a cartoon glorifying violent acts of cruelty towards a helpless pet, the sick people who found it amusing are just as bad as pedophiles


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

John C., I couldn't say it better myself. Bravo! Keep standing up for the right to life for those who cannot speak up for themselves!


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caderade2 7 years ago

That is a bit much and I hate the dogs political views and how they try to push an agenda trying to show that the dog thinks correctly and eveyone else is wrong. They need to take the politics out of the cartoon.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

ledefensetech, that's it. I've had it up to here with your ad hominem attacks. Go dump your vitriol in someone else's playground and take your erroneous and absurd statements with you. You're done here.

caderade2, there are so many things wrong with FG, we might as well add their political agenda while we're at it.


John C. 7 years ago

I'm in complete agreement with you Hal. There are no excuses anyone can make to convince me otherwise, preying upon the defenseless is absolutely abhorrent. I know that people keep making the excuse that "It's only a cartoon" or "Change the channel", but the fact is, even if we don't watch this filth on public airways, some impressionable kid or ignorant adult will & they'll think it's funny to abuse another living thing, whether it's a pet or a child. The fact that "it's just a cartoon" is irrelevent to the fact that this is yet another attack on morals, values & common decency that shouldn't be allowed into homes with children.

I must confess that this was the first time I had seen the show for any more than a minute, it seemed to me to be nothing more than a mediocre fart joke comedy show filled with crude jokes that are mean-spirited & insulting to the majority of the general population.

Ps: I may be somewhat biased to some extent, I provide food, water, shelter, vet care, etc. to abused & abandoned animals


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tony0724 7 years ago from san diego calif

To caderade2 this has nothing to do with politics . This Is just about common decency which Is a commodity that Is In scarce supply anymore . Unfortunately It seems to me that you have been consuming the same brain pollution most of society does . Any decent person would be repulsed by this . And to me this Is a small example of what Is considered modern humor . Humor used to be about witty dialogue between 2 people and situations .

Most modern humor boils down to two situations , gross out factor and bodily function jokes . Because the modern script writer does not have what It takes to write a truly good piece . And then you get stupid crap like the FG thing here . I do not know when being repulsed by a lack of common decency became political Issue but It clearly shows the times we live In and how dumbed down we have become !


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

Here's some support: A local university course teaches that those behind the FG and The Simpsons shows purposefully undermind the concept of the traditional nuclear family in America (husband, wife, kids, and pets); specifically, by molding the father into an empty and laughable entity, offering up maltreatment of pets, and all the rest.


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Anna Marie Bowman 7 years ago from Florida

I admit, I am a fan of Family Guy. I do admit that sometimes they go a little too far. I would not go so far as to call it pornography. There is no nudity, no sex acts depicted, and in fact there is less nudity on Family Guy than there is on many prime time television shows. The show is aimed at adults, and I agree, it should be moved to a different network, at a later time, to ensure that young children are not watching it.

On the subject of contacting PETA, aside from most members of PETA being nuts, do you think they would do anything about a cartoon? I am not sure. No animals were harmed, and while I admit, it is pretty disgusting what they did, it wasn't a real animal, and I am not sure PETA will get involved. PETA didn't even make a statement, or say anything after the whole Michael Vick thing, and that involved real animals.

I consider myself a fairly intelligent person. I don't see myself as a moron or maladjusted in any way. I watch Family Guy because it gives me the chance to laugh, get out of my head for a little while, and it does make me think. I know, that may seem weird. It does.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Unfortunately I'm on deadline for various projects so I'll have to keep this short, but please understand that I'm 100% supportive of the above comments (unless disputed here) and thank everyone for contributing. Please keep up the conversation over the weekend, and I'll chime in again on Monday! :)

Sweetie Pie: I too have been witness to the mutilation of household pets, and I swore I would not sit idly by ever again. Thank you for your comment!

John C.: Thank you for your comment and for your great work with animals. I agree that the primary content of FG is distasteful, but please read my comment to Anna Marie Bowman below.

tony0724: Bill Cosby, Johnny Carson, Bob Newhart, Rodney Dangerfield, Sid Caesar, Dick Van Dyke, Don Rickles, Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Jackie Gleason, Jack Benny, Jonathan Winters, Carol Burnett, Bob Hope, Charlie Chaplin, Cantinflas, Toto... I dare anyone today, no matter how jaded and media-soaked, to watch the work of any of these people and not fall off their chairs laughing. Did any of them ever slip into the chasms of distaste that is common for today's comedians, let alone FG? Never. That did not stop them from becoming legends, IT MADE THEM LEGENDS.

Truly, what passes for comedy today makes me sick.

Patty Inglish: Wow! Thanks for that information. I didn't know that! I'd love to find out where that is, and I'll make a contribution to them to support that great work!

Anna Marie Bowman: I would like to reiterate that of the FGs I've seen not every single frame is violent, anarchic, nihilistic, and pornographic. I'm sure that with a couple of hours and a good video editor, I could come up with a short, funny FG compilation that would entertain everyone and offend no one.

I cannot fault you for appreciating FG, even in its current state, as "to each their own." I do wholeheartedly agree with your statement that "it should be moved to a different network, at a later time, to ensure that young children are not watching it."

I'm not trying to run all creators of objectionable content out of town on a rail. Although free speech does not mean you can yell FIRE in a crowded theatre, there is so much unspeakable perverted trash media out there that Pandora's Box can never be closed again. If an adult wishes to watch pornography, sadism, or any other form of perversion or kink, they can do so in the privacy of their homes on SECURE CHANNELS, whether they be XXX satellite, cable, or DVD. NOT on the public airwaves.

See ya all on Monday!


healthydogs 7 years ago

Absolutely appalling. Ditto for the other episodes you list. Thankfully, I've never watched this show. And now I'll make sure I never do. But because it is in cartoon format I'm sure there are many children who must watch it. Completely abhorrent. I cannot understand why it is still on air.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Healthydogs, I couldn't agree with you more. This perverted trash masquerading as a kiddie show in order to debase innocent children should be forever banned from public airwaves.

Hi Steve from IP address 208.67.141.34. Or should I say Supernova X? You may not have read on my other Hubs that I have a zero tolerance policy for people who try to punk me by changing their names on comments and I ban them permanently on the first try. Have a wonderful FG life! :)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Way to go steve. So you used your school's IP to send all your threats and insults. I told you that you weren't very smart, and now you've proven it.

So I'll tell you what I'm going to do. Exactly 24 hours after posting this, I'm going to report your IP number to HubPages management and tell them you're spamming my Hubs (which you are) and get you blocked. Then I will contact your school (I already have their phone number), and let them in on the fun you're having on their broadband connection. I'm sure that they will pursue this abuse of a school resource with all due ardor. I'm also quite certain you and especially your parents will find it extremely entertaining.

But... since I understand that you're young and don't have an excess of brain cells, IF AND ONLY IF I NEVER SEE YOUR IP AGAIN I'll hold off on the reporting, to HubPages and to your school.

So what's it gonna be buddy? The carrot or the stick? :)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Good boy, steve. 24 hours and no signs of you. Have a great life my boy, and you might want to take the friendly advice to inform your fellow students at your school to not comment on any of my Hubs... I might just think its you and get my fingers dialing your school's number! Then ZAP! :)


bean crisp 7 years ago

The characters on family guy did not go to their friend's house with

the intention of killing his cat.


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Deltachord 7 years ago from United States

Gates and I say bravo, Hal.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

bean crisp, SO WHAT? What an incredibly silly comment. Go back to watching FG.

Deltachord, thank you! Let's all work together to keep this trash off the air!


John C. 7 years ago

I saw this today & thought of this thread :

http://cbs11tv.com/national/cat.cats.mutilated.2.1...

This 18 yr old pothead skateboarder killed 19 cats over a 1 month period in FL, his killing spree started in May, just over 2 weeks after this episode aired. I don't know if he saw this episode of Family Guy & got inspired to kill cats, but this article says he used a sharp straight instrument :

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/or...


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Absolutely appalling. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I'll research this further to see if I can find any direct links. Thanks again!


Aglaeca 7 years ago

I think that is sick. I always thought Family Guy was a sick show, but never have i seen something like this perverted, gross, scene. i am a dear animal lover and my favorite animal is a cat. I saw the picture and clicked on it at google to see what it was about. When i saw All of this i almost screamed and threw up. I am emailing a bunch of friends so they know. Hopefully this testimony does put it on XXXchannels or even stopping it. See i am only in middle school, but this show is gross and i hope it stops. it plays on cartoon network during adult swim and i usually turn the tv off when i see it on guide. i got chills from watching this show. Your right about it being sick, perverted, and revolting.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Thanks, Aglaeca, I appreciate your comments.


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sabrebIade 7 years ago from Pennsylvania

I just linked this Hub to a question in Yahoo Answers entitled "Am i the only person who thinks family guy suck?"

I thought this Hub was a good example for the guy.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Thanks! FG doesn't just suck, it represents the bottom of the barrel of revolting moronic vandalistic so-called entertainment. :)


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Susan Ng 7 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

It makes me sad knowing that such brutality and callousness are allowed to permeate the collective consciousness of the world. :(


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I could not agree more. Please join me in applying as much pressure as possible to Fox to show them that we are not sheep and we won't just placidly stand by while they turn our children into depraved beasts.


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likestowrite 7 years ago from United States

Hal,

I am SOOO glad I did not see this episode !! I am an animal lover who has two cats. They are both my babies and have always been so loyal and such good companions to me. Pets are so sweet and innocent and love us unconditionally. They do not deserve to be treated this way, even in comedy or in cartoons, etc. I don't understand how we have become so de-sensitized to anything horrific on TV these days. I thought I was the only one who noticed it.

However, I am a big fan of our first amendment rights. I think that freedom of expression should be considered here. In my opinion, this falls into the category of responsibility. There are things you "can do" and things you "should do". There is often a fine line between the two. This was highly irresponsible and repulsive for the writers of this show to do. It's very insensitive and I'm disgusted by it all.

I haven't read all of your posts and you may have already addressed this, but for the record, I despise anyone who does anything cruel to animals, period. I think people like Michael Vick should have been fed to an angry pack of wolves. Everyone says that he has done his time, but... most people don't really know what all he personally did to those poor dogs. He slammed them to the ground to crush their skulls, he drowned them, tortured them, beat them to death, etc, etc. All of this was because they didn't fight to his liking. This is only part of what he did too. People actually testified these things that they saw him PERSONALLY do to the dogs. My God, even the Taliban have banned dog fighting, because it's so cruel and involves the tearing of flesh but we reward it by giving people million dollar contracts in the NFL... immagine that.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Thanks for your comments. I once bred Bengals and they were ALL my babies, so the thought of anyone harming any of them is certainly enough to get the blood boiling. I have not written about Vick on purpose as he has been the subject of enough controversy and billions of wasted words, but my position on his action and "slap on the wrist" punishment is identical to yours. I'm a huge NFL fan and respect his great (but inconsistent) gridiron talent, but he deserves to rot in jail until he's ready to enter the old age home.


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thePuck 7 years ago from Bay Area, CA

Don't like what's on? Change the channel.

And if you don't want your kids watching something, actually supervise them. It's not the network or society's job to raise your kids, stop trying to shirk your own responsibilities.

If you don't know why there is a difference between a cartoon and real life, you are part of the problem in this country, not the solution, and shouldn't be advising anyone on anything because you are delusional.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Sir, in the other FG Hub I have made it clear what you are: Criminally insane. Thank you.


anderbee 7 years ago

hmm, i wonder what the context of that clip was? but family guy has gotten its own main characters bloody in the past, so it's not super surprising to me i guess.


Jimmy 7 years ago

Hal, Don't you love this great country we live in. I just want you to know that I love the freedom of speech in this country. I think its a beautiful thing. How do you feel about freedom of speech? Honestly?

Before I attempt any kind of argument with you, just because of your responses to most of those who disagree with you.

What do you think of, are you a fan, have you ever watched UFC? What do you have to say about real life brutality on TV? Not animation, drawings, or fantasy.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

anderbee: Who cares what the hell the context is! I've watched that entire scene and the only context is that Seth MacFarlane is a depraved criminal pervert pig.

Jimmy: I personally despise UFC, but that is two adults entering a violent competition for money in full comprehension of the pain they will experience. Explain that to a cat or a dog, bozo! Actually, I don't think you can, since you'd have to step your IQ up to their level. :)


Jimmy 7 years ago

Hal, Is it common for you to insult the intelligence of someone who asks a simple freedom of speech question?

You know, I didn't even say whether or not I agreed with you, but you just assumed that I don't. So you attack in a sort of rude manner. Argue like a man.

Calling me names for asking you questions shows your narrow, irrational mind.

How about answer my original question? you can try to say its off topic, go ahead.

How do you honestly feel about freedom of speech in the US?


family guy fan 7 years ago

come on people get a sense of humor ..... i dont think people are so stupid to imitate everything we see on TV .... responsibility lies within the parents to control what their kids are watching .... if u dont like it ... dont watch it ... simple as that ... dont grind ur gears over nothing! peace out!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Jimmy: Yup. Support Seth MacFarlane's perversion, depravity and nihilism and you have no rights. You belong in jail next to him, away from decent upstanding citizens. FG is not freedom of speech, it is sick, demented trash which does not belong on the airwaves which are OWNED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. End of conversation.

family guy fan: Read above.


Ricky Acid 7 years ago

I cant believe you guys are actually serious about "never watching Family Guy again" because of a funny scene involving the accidental killing of a cat.

Why don't we ban the news cause it shows people dying in Iraq, you'll find alot worse images on that and its not even meant to be funny.

Geta grip on yourselves people, the show is made with the purpose of entertaining people, maybe you don't think that part of the show is funny. In which case SIMPLY DON'T LAUGH. You don't have to spoil everyone else's fun.

Until you bought it to my attention I didn't ever think that someone would "copy cat" a killing scene from Family Guy, and I severely doubt they ever will.


Jimmy 7 years ago

So Hal, because you have nothing to say about freedom of speech, in an argument that basicly boils down to freedom of speech. I actually know someone that met Seth Macfarlane, and I know its gonna be shocking to you Hal, but he is actually a decent human being. But he is an artist, and in this country we give those people the freedom to express themselves. Hal I'm sure that I could find a dozen paintings or sculptures that you would find offensive for various reasons. That's clearly the kind of person you are. I have no desire to try to change your opinion.

I love and support an artist, and although the one I support is not an animator. I am very good friends with one, and I find the idea of censoring artists based on content to be repugnant.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Ricky and Jimmy, since you are obviously members of the FG brainwashed brigade let me give you a hypothetical example.

I consider myself an artist. Therefore, I'm going to claim that my freedom of expression includes renting a video billboard in Times Square and showing 24/7 videos of me in various artistic poses and positions having sex with toddlers. I justify that artistic expression because it not only is my art laying bare the taboos of society blah blah blah but I claim I am correct since it's clear that Times Square is stuffed full of perverts who stand all day long and watch the videos. Therefore, a significant number of people appreciate my art, and I should be allowed to continue.

Right?

Remember, my dear FG bozos. Killing off the Jews was presented to the erudite, intellectual, and sane German population in such a way that it was supported by the vast majority. These days we like to delude ourselves into thinking it was mass hysteria, but it was nothing of the kind. It was justification of the most profound evils through the skillfully applied art of presenting it as a positive action.

So is FG.

Now bug off and take that disgusting reprehensible criminal swine Macfarlane with you.


Louis 7 years ago

just dont watch the show

Damn we understand everything you'ree saying but you're really putting America down by thinking we are stpid enough to kill a cat. And a CARTOON IS MADE ONLY TO DO THINGS YOU CAN'T DO IN REAL LIFE.

So if you hate Seth Macfarlane and his show don't watch and tell all your supporters not to watch but don't ban or censor family guy. And like the guy said earlier we're just becoming lazy as a nation if we can't tell I kids what not to do or watch. Or even block a show with more mature content. Also the show is made for people who won't get influenced by it and knows its for sheer entertainment.It's not like it's on Nickelodeon it's on Fox primetime on a sunday when kids should be sleeping.

But really it's okay if you're not a supporter because in life we differ. I'll put it like this Obama ran for president some liked him and some didn't but banning family guy would be like assassinating him. So just don't watch and it would be like not placing your vote for Obama. It will actually make a bigger difference and may accomplish your goal cause it will affect ratings which fox cares about.

Thanks for reading


Jimmy 7 years ago

Hey Hal, did you catch sunday nights new episode? There was this seen where Quagmire gets a baby he didn't know about. The baby's cryin and he goes to check on her, he notices that her pacifier fell out. He puts it back in and clicks a little button that starts it vibrating. Like it was a vibrator. It was a great scene, you really would have liked it considering that your a child porn advocate, but you disagree with the first amendment.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Louis: I am so sick of the imbecile junior perverts like you making the sad case of "don't watch". That would be applicable if it was an NC17 movie with a $14 ticket price. The airwaves constitutionally belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE, not studios or networks. But again... I'm just wasting my breath on you. Go look at shiny moving things above your crib and coo. It's what you do best.

Jimmy: I'll watch FG again when Seth is sent to a gulag or I'm tipped off that he did something else even more outrageous that deserves skewering. Great, so now that despicable debased debauched degenerate has babies sucking on vibrators. Why not just go all the way and run a cartoon showing him having sex with some and then killing them a la snuff film? That would be fun, wouldn't it, Beavis? Ya, Butthead... :(


Jimmy 7 years ago

Hal did you see the South Park with the bikers? This wave of harley riders comes in to town and the joke was about how loud the bikes are and how they attract attention. The bikers were all attention whore's,(Sound familiar buddy) Man cartoons are great aren't they? You know that's pretty much all I watch anymore. In your world that must mean I'm slowly becoming a serial killer or something like that. Just trying to imagine life with such a narrow mind. How do you do it? I bet your a fan of Palin's new book. You know she tried to ban books in Alaska. Maybe you and her need to get together to clean this disgusting, vile, scum filled nation.


Jimmy 7 years ago

Wow Hal, did you catch last nights new episode on the 29th?

The episode is entitled "Dog Gone", It was easily the most animal violence ever in one cartoon. If you really have something to say about this show then you need to watch this one. You can watch it for free here: http://www.hulu.com/family-guy?c=Animation-and-Car... .I am not even going to comment again until you watch and post about this episode. It is the most important episode in your argument! If you really care as you claim to you will watch.

I just wanted you to know that the last message I posted which you have not put up, was intended to be in your stlye of personal attack and childish response. I thought you would like it buddy!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I would rather have my molars pulled sans anaesthetic than expose myself to another second of Seth's excrement. Thank you.


Jimmy 7 years ago

So, your basically backing off the argument that you started about animated animal violence? Oh your giving up this crusade which you can't handle anymore, huh. That's another victory for free speech buddy. Good job old chap, I knew you didn't have it in you. The artists of the world thankyou for doing what everyone tried to keep telling you to do: DON'T WATCH!!!!!!!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

There is a huge difference between my personal choice as a mature adult of not wanting to be exposed to perversions and my stand that innocent, naïve, impressionable children should not be placed in a situation where they are exposed. But then again, I'd be better off trying to explain strangelet creation in the LHC to a gnat than trying to make an FG fan understand anything other than "aw... cool..."


Will 7 years ago

Family Guy isn't a show for the over-sensitive or easily offended. So don't watch if if you fit this description! Its really as simple as that.

Start taking life less seriously, for one day you will be dead.

Also check out my website for more debates about animal cruelty =)


Lost 7 years ago

Ok first: It's a cartoon for a mature audience, kids should not watch that.

Second: It's not a real cat, it's a freakin' cartoon!!!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Jimmy, I've had enough of you. Get lost.

Will, how does a 6 year old watching a cartoon make an accurate determination of the ethical values it instills?

Lost, go play with Jimmy. I'm SO SICK of these same STUPID repetitive comments! It's a cartoon! It's funny! It's ok! Sheesh. What a bunch of pathetic perverts!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Nope, Jimmy. I'm sick of you because you're a one note band and even if I wanted to post this last comment I can't because you've used an expletive. So BYE! :)


Jimmy 6 years ago

Man I really don't understand why you can't argue fairly and with maybe some respect towards the opposing party.

Just answer me this and I will stop posting.

Do you honestly feel as though you handle these discussions fairly?

And please elaborate with an explanation not an attack!!


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

OK, you've now asked a decent question without expletives, so I'll post it and answer:

Simple. FG fans are perverts and deserve a few years in the gulag to straighten out their sick heads. Seth himself needs to be locked away for the rest of his natural life from influencing another single child with his broadcast excrement. Fox needs to have severe sanctions placed upon it, including the payment of the entire proceeds of all the seasons of their Seth Degeneracy Fest, both network and syndication, to a fund to help children overcome the disgusting filth that has been poured into their heads. The Pope himself just hours ago stated that the media has desensitized an entire generation, and although I am not a Catholic, I fully agree. I'll take the Pope's opinion over Pervert Seth and Criminal Rupert any day, dude!


Jimmy 6 years ago

Hal, I know how you feel about Family Guy and its fans, you've stated this over and over again. Scum seems to be your favorite descriptive word for this stuff.

You did not answer my question about fairness in this discussion, just like you avoided my question on how you feel about free speech. Sure you mention both topics, but you never actually directly answer the questions. Stop avoiding the actual questions.

Do you honestly feel as though you handle these discussions fairly?

I know you hate FG and its fans, I only wish to hear a response to the above question. Can you do it Hal, old buddy? We'll see.


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

You don't fight a street fight by the Marquis of Queensbury rules, dude. When Hitler was taking over the world, the Allied forces didn't go to Berlin and ask him pretty please if he would stop and so they could all go out and have a beer. They had to bomb Germany back to the Stone Age. When you have COMPLETE, UNQUESTIONABLE AND UNJUSTIFIABLE DEPRAVITY AND EVIL as is included in each and every ep of FG, ANY TACTIC IS FAIR GAME AND THE MORE CONFRONTATIVE THE BETTER... of course within legal and ethical parameters.

Therefore, based on that entirely logical and proper approach, you're still a pervert that needs to be locked away from the rest of us before you try to live out your sick FG fantasies on some innocent child.

And I'd rather be a buddy to a pig. At least pigs have some measure of dignity. Certainly more than any FG fan. Have a wonderful day. :)


Jimmy 6 years ago

Wow you truly are a sick human being. You know you really are the kind of people I do have to take concern over.

I mean you're comparing the nazi's to a cartoon. That is a clear sign of mental illness. You see one of the greatest threats to humanity on the same level as a cartoon. You are ill sir...


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

The number of people who have been damaged psychologically by Seth is roughly equivalent to those who were similarly damaged by WWII. Of course Seth hasn't killed anyone, but that's a matter of degree. Seth does not deserve to walk among free people in a civilized society.


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nicomp 6 years ago from Ohio, USA

After the nonsense that Seth spewed about Palin during the campaign, just can't sit through his stuff. I can't separate the artist from the art. Hollywood types who fancy themselves deep thinkers tickle me. At least Ben Stein has a law degree and wrote a few speeches, albeit for Nixon and Ford. According to Wikipedia, MacFarlane has a BS in Fine Arts from The Rhode Island School of Design. Perhaps he qualified to make cartoons, but hardly up to the task of thoughtful political scholarship.


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

I agree completely. MacFarlane has a BS alright... but it's how his BS is contaminating American society that really worries me.


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

Jimmy... you're in the delete can. You're staying there. Keep wasting keystrokes!


danny 6 years ago

you people are cry babbies get over it


whao! 6 years ago

everybody really needs to take it down a noch. everybody has the right to express their opinions and people for disagree with them shouldn't come out looking for confrontation, but rather listen to what they are saying and try to understand it.

i for one really enjoy FG, i know others don't and i understand this and accept it.

i will not start muddying the water because of a contrast in beliefs.


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

danny: You know, if you spent more time in school and less time wanking to FG, you'd know how to spell. :)

whao! I listen well and I understand perfectly. FG fans are degenerate perverts who belong in jail away from innocent members of society. That's not a contrast in belief. That's a fact. :)


Samantha 6 years ago

OMG - I totally agree. I was just watching an episode of Family Guy on hulu, when a puppy was killed. You could here the puppy screaming in pain and trying to escape, covered in blood - and then it was dead. I exited out. I will never watch that show again.


Samantha 6 years ago

Im sorry, the puppy killing was on American Dad, not Family Guy. My bad, same network though


WM 6 years ago

I JUST saw this scene on TBS. I do not watch family guy, but the TV was on from a previous episode. The volume was off. I was HORRIFIED! It was the worst scene I've EVER scene! Then, to read your description that it was screaming?! I am trying not to vomit!

What is being done to stop this program from airing?! THEY ARE RUNNING THE RERUNS OF THIS VERY EPISODE - so, apparently, from the time of this article until now, nothing has been done!


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

Of course they're doing nothing about it since it draws ratings. Absolutely disgusting!


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RGNestle 6 years ago from Seattle

I don't know why children would be watching this trash anyway! There are so MANY pedo jokes and the neighbor across the street is always trying to sleep with the boy. And the bestiality too! The dog is always trying to sleep with the mother and daughter!

This show is so disgusting, I don't know how it remains on broadcast TV. It breaks almost all the FCC rules!

The same with South Park.

They stopped showing Bugs Bunny because they said it was too violent, but they show these disgusting shows that have absolutely NO VALUE AT ALL!!!

(Deep Breath.)

It's too bad that so many adults (parents and cartoon writers) don't have any common sense.


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Patty Inglish, MS 6 years ago from North America

The show has gone too far, imo. What started out as parody has gone off the rails. Each episode must now out-shock the last one and the concept will eventually blow up. Too much of too much.


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RGNestle 6 years ago from Seattle

I wonder how much bestiality and kiddie porn Seth McFarland has on his computers. I can't believe that it would be none, not with all the disgusting pedophilia and animal/human sex he jokes about and portrays in his shows.

Even some of my friends have been stupid enough to expose themselves and children to this trash!

Any parents that let their children watch this show (or the other ADULT cartoons on TV) should be reported to CPS for contributing to the delinquency of minors. Allowing your kids to watch it is tantamount to teaching them that pedophilia and bestiality are normal and funny. Let's welcome the next generation of sexual predators!


Greg Patrick 6 years ago

I know this is an old blog.

I disliked this show as well Hal Licino. That same episode is now showing up in syndication at 7 p.m. when kids are still up or over at their friends. I thought FCC had a rule, those type of shows couldn't be aired tell after 9 p.m. or 10 p.m. depending on the local time zone. There was another episode of Family Guys that I also disliked and made me sick. One of the characters had sex with a minor and says "It just a cartoon folks". Like it was no big deal-which I disagree with. However, I have never seen that episode in syndication.

Personal I think that show is sick. There are only two episodes that I liked. FCC show and another one.

As Far as Freedom of speech. You can't say fire in a theater if there is no fire.


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

I think it is high time that like minded people like us do something other than just gripe on blogs about this unprecedented assault on the morality and sensitivities of our children. It's time to take the attack to a higher (and always legal) level. Suggestions?


Bedbug 6 years ago

Amen, Hal,

Good grief! When is it going to stop? Free speech/expression should never be used as a platform to encourage violent acts against animals or humans.


RobGems.ca 6 years ago

10/11/10

I Just blogged you a Few minutes ago on another hub about "Family Guy." At first I Thought you were a conservative type Who doesn't like cartoons in general,but now I See to it you are more of a typical Left-wing Type Who Uses the PETA Organization as a stepping stone for your vile Statements. Let It Be said And done that if yo, a Canadian, were to cross into this country, you will have to please remember That we Americans have a lot of opinions,Right or wrong, & we have the 1st & 3rd Amendments in the Constitution To defend our rights. "Family Guy " may not be the Most Offensive show out here (Have you ever stopped & watched "Drawn Together","Duckman","Ren & Stimpy" (By Your fellow Canadian Who happens to appreciate Anarchy In Animation, by the way),"Robot Chicken", "the Venture Brothers", & countless others that are not created by Seth McFarland.They all have questionable material And Attempts at humor. What about "The grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy" & Beetlejuice", two animated Cartoons that celebrated Necronism & The celebrations/Anguishes of death, Hell, & the afterlife in a Post-Mortunm Netherworld? How about the Sexist misconduct of Salicious Sex-trip fantasies like "Striperella",The "Cool World" Movie & Far-out over-sexed Video games like 1998's "Conker The Squirrel?" Are These any More Disgusting than Family Guy? Believe me, I'm A Free man. Nobody's not going to tell me not To Eat meat for a living , or watch What you think are bad cartoons. you can live your life as you like, but don't breathe your hot air on other people: You'll only get burned.As For the aforementioned Mr. Kricfalusi, as well as other Canadian animators who over-step the boundaries Of Good Taste like David Feiss (Cow & Chicken)& Danny Antoucinni (The Brothers Grunt & Ed,Edd, & Eddy), to them it's a Living, so don't go on Thinking yo're better than they are; One thing that satirists Hate, Are Holier-tan-thou Pious types like Yourself; That's why there in the business for people who get their style of satire in the first place.


Christal 6 years ago

I had always been a fan of the show (hadn't actually watched in awhile though and missed the episode you are talking about), but after finding out about this I am a fan no more. I had planned on watch the show again, but I won't cribute to that's show's success anymore. Thank you for writing about this. Amazing the things you find on searches online for other stuff.


Isabelle 6 years ago

This episode makes me sick. Violence against animals in any sense is wrong.

And another thing, as much as I wish they couldn't you can't expect children not to watch this show. It's on at all hours of the day. In the morning when kids get up, in the afternoon when they get home from school and in the evening. Parents can forbid their children from watching it by they can't monitor them 24/7.


Ghost32 6 years ago

Hal, I don't know why I didn't think of PETA on this one--but I DID file a formal complaint with the FCC within minutes of seeing that episode.

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