NBC - Go On, The New Normal, Deception cancelled, Hannibal still unknown - Ratings, Cancellations and Renewals 2012-13

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From now on, I will be posting TV Ratings, Renewal and Cancellation updates and Reviews on my own website.

Here, the ratings, cancellations and renewals of TV shows on NBC will be discussed. First, there's a list of NBC's latest cancellations, pick-ups and premiere dates. Freshman shows usually have a 13-episode order. Most shows will either get cancelled or picked up for a full season. However some NBC comedies will have a 13 episode season regardless of their ratings. Older shows have a full season to start with, which means that they'll stay toss-ups through the Fall season. The 2013 ratings of these shows will be decisive.

Next, you'll find a graph with for all current NBC shows the adults 18-49 rating, and below that, each show will be discussed individually; what ratings do they get and what could that mean for their future?

Let me know in the comments section what you think about the shows. Which ones would you like to see renewed and which ones should be axed right away?

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Ratings, Cancellations and Renewals on the other networks

Renewals

Cancellations

Certain Renewals

  • None yet

Certain Cancellations

  • None at the moment

Likely Renewals

Likely Cancellations

  • None at the moment

Important Dates

  • Chicago Fire, s1 finale, May 15th, 10/9c
  • Grimm, s2 finale, May 21st, 10/9c
  • Revolution, s1 finale, June 3rd, 10/9c
  • Hannibal, s1 finale, June 20th, 10/9c
  • Do No Harm, burn-off episodes first season, June 29th, 10/9c

Toss Up

  • None at the moment

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Smash (Cancelled)

(05/12): At the moment only half hour ratings are available. Usually averaging these ratings for a show leads to errors, however, the separate ratings for 'Smash' are still a good indication NBC made the right choice to cancel this show. Both the first and second half hour of the show got a rating of 0.4 in the adults 18-49 demo. The first half hour was watched by 2.14 million people, while the second half hour attracted only 1.87 million people.

(05/10): NBC officially announced the cancellation of 'Smash'. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, unless of course you actually believed E!Online was going to save Smash.

(05/06): 'Smash' gained on tenth in the adults 18-49 demo, bringing this week's rating to a 0.5. In total 2.28 million people tuned in.

(04/28): Yet another 0.4 rating for 'Smash' this week. Total viewers was 1.89 million.

(04/21): A steady and very low rating of 0.4 for 'Smash' this week, and a total viewer count of 1.91 million.

(04/14): 'Smash' dropped even further to an 0.4 in adults 18-49. Total viewers went down to 1.80 million.

(04/08): Yesterday was 'Smash's first episode on a Saturday, as expected the episode got bad rating. 'Smash' got a 0.5 in the adults 18-49 demo and only 1.88 million people tuned in.

(04/03): Last night 'Smash's last episode on Tuesday aired. The show will now air on Saturdays. Yesterday's episode got a rating of 0.9 in the all important demo and 2.98 million people tuned in.

(03/27): With 'The Voice' returning, 'Smash' went up in the ratings to a 1.0 in adults 18-49. However, the show is being shipped off to Saturdays, starting April 6th, meaning that it is effectively cancelled.

(03/20): Dead-show-airing 'Smash' dropped to an 0.7 in the all-important demographic, while 2.66 million people tuned in this week.

(03/15): 'Smash' hasn't been officially cancelled just yet, but starting on April 6th, 'Smash' will burn off the rest of the season on Saturdays at 9/8c. When a show is moved to Saturdays, this means it's not coming back.

(03/13): With an 0.9 in adults 18-49, 'Smash' recovers a little bit, but is with 2.90 million viewers still certain to be cancelled.

(03/06): 'Smash' is now down to a rating of 0.8 and 2.68 million viewers. Can it drop even lower?

(02/27): Another 0.9 rating for 'Smash' this week. The total viewer count is still dropping; 3.04 million people watched this week's episode. Bad news all around for 'Smash'.

(02/20): The 'Smash'-crash goes on, the show is now down to an 0.9 in adults 18-49, with 3.29 million people tuning in. These are horrible ratings, even for the state NBC is in these days, and they make the show certain to be cancelled.

(02/06): Last night NBC aired the two-hour season premiere of the second season of 'Smash'. With a rating of 1.2, this season starts of with a series low. The rating for this episode has dropped 71% and 39% in comparison with the series premiere and first season finale, respectively. The total viewer count was 4.48 million, also a series low.

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Go On (Cancelled)

(05/10): NBC has cancelled 'Go On', in contrast to what I expected.

(04/12): Steady at a 1.1 in adults 18-49, 'Go On's season finale will probably not be the series finale. While a 1.1 is in fact not a good number at all, compared to other shows it is ok. Add to that the confidence in the series NBC has been showing and the fact that the network can't cancel all of its comedies, 'Go On' is a Likely Renewal.

(04/05): After last week's big ratings, 'Go On' crashed back down to a 1.1 in adults 18-49 this week. Total viewers went down from 5.12 million to 2.45 million, a drop of 53%. The show has only next week's season finale left to prove that it deserves a second season, and it'll have to do good. If it doesn't, it will likely get cancelled.

(03/27): Greatly profiting from 'The Voice', 'Go On' almost doubled the ratings it got last week. It scored a 1.9 this week, which is about on par with what it scored previously when following 'The Voice'. Next week, it will move to Thursdays, following 'The Office'. What will happen then?

(03/20): 'Go On' hit another series low with a 1.0 in adults 18-49 and 2.87 million viewers. Since next week's episode will be the last Tuesday airing, will a one-time 'The Voice' lead-in give the show enough of a boost to get it renewed?

(03/15): NBC announced that 'Go On' will move to Thursdays starting at April 4th for the last two episodes. 'Go On' will air at 9:30/8:30c. This means 'Go On' won't have the lead-in from 'The Voice' these last two episodes.

(03/06): The ratings of 'Go On' are still steady at 1.1. In total 3.07 million people tuned in.

(02/27): A steady rating of 1.1 for 'Go On'. 3.17 million people tuned in to watch.

(02/20): 'Go On' lost another two tenths, and is now at a 1.1 in adults 18-49. 3.3 million people tuned in.

(01/30): Another 1.3 in the 18-49 demo for 'Go On', which is anxiously awaiting the return of 'The Voice'. The episode had a total of 3.95 million viewers tuning in.

(01/23): After last week's recovery, 'Go On' is falling in the ratings again. The episode scored a rating of 1.3, which is only 0.1 higher than the rating of 'The New Normal' which is now a Likely Cancellation. The total viewer count was 3.97 million.

(01/16): Recovering a little in the ratings, 'Go On' went two tenths up in adults 18-49 to a 1.7, which is still not great, but a lot better than last week's series low. Total viewers this week was just a little higher than last week, with 4.45 million. With this recovery, the show avoids getting downgraded to a Toss Up. What also speaks for keeping 'Go On' a Likely Renewal is that after 'The Voice' returns, its ratings will most likely go up again, and that would ensure the show's renewal, regardless of the current ratings.

(01/09): 'Go On' has made a huge drop in the ratings. This week's episode had a rating of 1.5 in the all important demo, but the previous rating was a 2.4. Its lead-in 'The Voice' will be back in March, by that time the ratings will probably go up again.

The very first episode of 'Go On' was aired twice. The first time was as a sneak preview right after the Olympics, giving the ratings quite a boost. The second time was in the regular timeslot a few weeks later. Together the rating of this episode was a 5.6 in the all important demo and 16.1 million people tuned in. Of course the following episodes had lower ratings, but they still where very high.

The series low is a 2.1 but on average the show had a rating of 2.6. After only four episodes 'Go On' got a full season pick up.

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The New Normal (Cancelled)

(05/10) Along with many other NBC also cancelled 'The New Normal'.

(04/12): The final prediction for 'The New Normal' is that it will likely be cancelled because it has been rating lower than 'Go On' for the entire season and hit the 0.7 mark just 3 weeks ago. While it shot up in its last two episodes, that was because it got the lead-in from 'The Voice', and it still did worse than 'Go On' with the same lead-in.

(04/03): Last night was the one-hour season finale of 'The New Normal'. The first episode got a rating of 1.7 in the all important demo and the second one got a 1.4. The average of the episodes was a 1.55 and 3.93 million viewers.

(03/27): 'The New Normal' almost doubled its ratings last night with a 1.3 in adults 18-49, and had 3.32 million people watching. Will next weeks one-hour finale following 'The Voice' be enough to get the show renewed?

(03/20): With a new series low of an 0.7 in the demographic, 'The New Normal' is now down to The CW levels and therefore likely to be cancelled. Still, 2.11 million people tuned in. The show might benefit next week from'Go On', which has the 'The Voice' lead-in. The week after, 'The New Normal' airs an hour-long season finale, leading out from 'The Voice'. Will that be enough to have it upgraded again?

(03/06): Steady ratings for 'The New Normal'. In adults 18-49 it got a 0.9 and 2.44 million people tuned in.

(02/27): Ratings for 'The New Normal' go up slightly this week; it scored a rating of 1.0 in the 18-49 demographic. The total amount of viewers was 2.62, slightly less than last week.

(02/20): After a break, 'The New Normal' is now down to a 0.9 in the all-important demographic. 2.8 million people tuned in. See below why the show is still a Toss Up.

(01/30): Once again a drop for 'The New Normal', going down to a rating of 1.1 in adults 18-49. Total viewer count was 3.08 million. Even though the 'The Voice' lead-in will return eventually, 'The New Normal' already wasn't doing that great when it did have the lead-in. However, it'll remain a Toss Up for now, simply because all of NBC is doing so bad lately.

(01/23): A drop in the ratings for 'The New Normal', which scored a rating of 1.2 in the 18-49 demographic. The episode had a total viewer count of 3.28 million.

(01/16): One week later and 'The New Normal' still has the same trouble attracting an audience. It rated a 1.4 in the adults 18-49 demographic, with 3.33 million viewers, which is almost exactly the same number as last week.

(01/09): 'The New Normal' had some trouble pulling its usual audience this week, just like 'Go On', after both shows lost the 'The Voice' lead-in. 'The New Normal' dropped back 0.4 in the ratings compared to the previous episode, bringing this week's rating to a 1.3 in the adults demo. In total 3.23 million people tuned in.

At the beginning of the show, the ratings of 'The New Normal' where pretty good, with an average rating of 2.2 in the adults demo over the first six episodes. But the following five episodes only had an average rating of 1.7. NBC ordered a full season after five episodes, which at the time seemed like a good idea. But since the full season pick up the ratings have dropped quite a bit and it's uncertain whether the show will be renewed for a second season.

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Hannibal (Likely Renewal)

(05/10): Ratings for 'Hannibal' are steady at a 1.1 in adults 18-49. 2.66 million people tuned in to watch.

(05/09): Since 'Deception' just got cancelled by NBC, 'Hannibal' becomes a Likely Renewal again.

(05/03): 'Hannibal's ratings finally came to a halt after dropping 0.7 tenths in just two weeks. This week's rating is almost the same as last week's, a 1.1 in the all important demo. A total of 2.61 million people tuned in. 'Hannibal's ratings are now lower than 'Deception's series low. Meaning 'Hannibal' is downgraded to a Toss Up and 'Deception' to a Likely Renewal.

(04/26): Another drop for 'Hannibal', scoring a rating of 1.0 in adults 18-49. Total viewers was 2.4 million. If the ratings don't go up, this might mean 'Hannibal' will lose the fight with 'Deception'.

(04/19) - 2: Next week, the fourth episode will be skipped in favor of the fifth episode. This is done in the wake of the Boston bombings, because the episode is more violent than usual. The episode will not be aired, look for it in international markets later this year or on the DVD, once it is released. According to NBC, there are no continuity issues.

(04/19) - 1: In it's third week,'Hannibal' drops three tenths or 18% in the all-important demo to a 1.4 in adults 18-49. Total viewers went down by almost a million to 3.50 million. The show's position is a lot less solid than it was before, and that might just be good news for 'Deception'.

(04/12): 'Hannibal' gained one tenth thus got a 1.7 in adults 18-49. 4.38 million people tuned in. This is very good news for the show, because generally second episodes drop in the ratings. Since it was steady and doing a lot better than 'Deception', it's now a Likely Renewal.

(04/05): The series premiere of 'Hannibal' did pretty good in the ratings, for NBC standards. It scored a 1.6 in the adults 18-49 demographic and had 4.36 million viewers. The question (like always) is whether people were just sampling the show or actually liked it. We'll see next week, but for now, things look good. If 'Hannibal' keeps doing good, that might be bad news for 'Deception'.

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Whitney (Cancelled)

(05/09): Contrary to what I expected, NBC has cancelled 'Whitney' after two seasons.

(04/12): The final prediction for 'Whitney' is that it will likely be renewed. While it hasn't really been doing good, compared to other shows it's been doing quite OK. NBC has already cancelled or will be forced to cancel a lot of comedies, and they cannot cancel all of them.

(03/28): 'Whitney's one-hour season finale was steady with a 1.0 and a 1.0 in the demo. Total viewers averaged 2.90 million.

(03/21): 'Whitney' drops two tenths, scoring a rating of 1.0 in the 18-49 demo. 3.13 million people watched. If it keeps dropping, it may lose it newly acquired status of Likely Renewal.

(03/14): 'Whitney' drops a tenth this week, rating a 1.2 in adults 18-49. Total viewer count was 3.38 million. Since it has been doing relatively good lately, 'Whitney' is upgraded to a Likely Renewal.

(03/07): Ratings for 'Whitney' went up another tenth, scoring a 1.3 in the 18-49 demo, with a total of 3.83 million viewers.

(03/01): 'Whitney' managed to get one tenth up in the ratings. This week's episode had a rating of 1.2 in the all important demo.

(02/21): At a new series low, 'Whitney' scored a 1.1 in the demo this week. Total viewers was down to 3.14 million.

(02/14): 'Whitney' was steady this week, with another 1.2 in the demographic. 3.59 million people were watching the show. The show is a Toss Up solely because the horrible performances of other series.

(02/07): A drop for 'Whitney', scoring a 1.2 in the 18-49 demo. 3.56 million people watched the series this week.

(01/31): Another low rating for 'Whitney' this week. The episode got a rating of 1.3 in the adults 18-49 demo and 3.64 million people tuned in. 'Whitney' now gets the same ratings as some of the other shows, including 'Go On', whom are suffering since they lost their good lead in.

(01/10): 'Whitney' dropped right back to the low ratings it had before the Christmas break, with a 1.4 in adults 18-49 yesterday. The number of total viewers was 4.11 million. Things are really not looking good for the show.

(01/03): Opposite repeats, 'Whitney' managed to pull in season highs in both the adults 18-48 demographic, a 1.8, and total viewers, 4.96 million.


This is the second season of 'Whitney' and the ratings have changed quite dramatically compared to the first season. The first season started off with a rating of 3.3 in the all important demo. Only two times the show got a rating of 1.4, which was that season's low. This season 'Whitney' also managed to pull a rating of 1.4 just twice, however, this time this ratings is the season high. I think you'll agree this isn't a good sign.

These poor ratings could have something to do with the fact that the show was a midseason replacement, which is quite unusual for a series in its second season. Maybe it happened because of scheduling issues, or maybe it was because NBC noticed this season just wasn't as good as the first. Anyway, the ratings are low, and probably won't keep this show afloat.

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1600 Penn (Cancelled)

(05/09): Just like I predicted, '1600 Penn' has been cancelled after its first season.

(03/29): Another double episode this week for '1600 Penn'. It didn't help the ratings though, both episodes got a rating of 0.7 in the 18-49 demographic. The average of both episodes was 1.92 million total viewers. These low numbers make this series a Certain Cancellation.

(03/22): Last night '1600 Penn' aired a double episode. The averaged ratings for those two are an 0.9 in the all-important demo and 2.40 million total viewers, which are series lows.

(03/15): This week '1600 Penn' gained another tenth bringing the total rating of this week to a 1.0 in the adults 18-49 demo. In total 2.23 million people tuned in.

(03/08): '1600 Penn' is steady at 0.9 in the all important demo. In total 2.10 million people tuned in.

(03/01): '1600 Penn' drops two tenths in the ratings, bringing this episode to a 0.9 in the adults 18-49 demo.

(02/22): This week's '1600 Penn' got a series low rating of 1.0 in the 18-49 demographic. Only 2.34 million people tuned in to watch. It seems we are looking at the beginning of the end for '1600 Penn'.

(02/09): Next week's episode of '1600 Penn' gets bumped for an hour-long 'The Office'. While that doesn't scream 'cancellation', it is an indication that NBC isn't all that happy with the show (and they shouldn't be). To get 'The Office' back on schedule, it will be away on Feb. 21st, when two 'Parks & Recreation' episodes will air back-to-back. As of the current schedule, that date is also when '1600 Penn' will return. We'll see.

(02/08): Destabilized by a week of absence, '1600 Penn' drops further to a 1.1 in adults 18-49. With 2.60 million viewers, that means the show is at new lows.

(01/25): '1600 Penn' has finally stabilized, but at a very low 1.3 in adults 18-49 this week. Total viewers is at 3.28 million.

(01/18): Only in its third episode, '1600 Penn' is now down a full ratings point or 45% versus its premiere. This week's episode saw a 1.2 rating in the coveted demographic, and 3.04 million viewers. Not surprisingly, that makes it now likely to be cancelled.

(01/11): While the premiere of '1600 Penn' was able to pull a rating of 2.2, the second episode only got a rating of 1.6 in the all important demo. A drop in the second episode is usual for new shows, but this is a rather large one.

NBC's presidential comedy series '1600 Penn' premiered on December 17th. The episode got a rating of 2.2 in the adults 18-49 demo and was watched by 6.88 million people. This is quite a good start for a comedy show on NBC. The regular timeslot premiere (episode 2) will be on January 10th at 9:30/8:30c.

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Guys With Kids (Cancelled)

(05/09): 'Guys With Kids' has been cancelled, just as I predicted.

(03/01): Another tenth up for 'Guys With Kids', bringing it to a 1.1 in the all important demo.

(02/21): 'Guys With Kids' inches up to a 1.0 in adults 18-49, which is apparently quite good these days (!). 2.83 million people tuned in.

(02/14): At a new series low, 'Guys With Kids' scored a 1.0 in the coveted demographic this week. Even though NBC as a whole is performing badly lately, with 2.85 million viewers, 'Guys With Kids' is getting more and more likely to be cancelled.

(02/07): 'Guys With Kids' managed to rise one tenth this week, scoring a 1.2 in the 18-49 demographic and a total viewer count of 3.20 million.

(01/31): This week's episode of 'Guys With Kids' got a rating of 1.1 in adults 18-49, this is a small drop compared to the rating of the last episode three weeks ago.

(01/10): 'Guys With Kids' fell right back down from last week's high rating, now at a 1.3 in the all important demographic and little under 4 million viewers. With ratings lower than 'Whitney', this show's fate is sealed.

(01/04): While all other Wednesday shows on NBC grew to at least season highs, 'Guys With Kids' didn't manage to do so. However it did manage to grow 21% from its last original episode to a 1.7 in adults 18-49. The number of total viewers was 4.39 million

'Guys With Kids' started it's first season of with a pretty average rating. The pilot had a rating of 2.2 in the adults 18-49 demographic and 6.25 million people tuned in. The second episode, two weeks later, showed a drop of 0.6, to a 1.6. From this point on the ratings pretty much went downhill. Only the last aired episode managed to get back up from a 1.1 to a 1.4. These ratings probably won't be enough for a second season but apparently NBC hasn't given up hope, since after eight episodes the network ordered a full season of 'Guys With Kids'.

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Up All Night (Cancelled)

(05/09): As expected, 'Up All Night' has been cancelled.

(02/20): 'Up All Night', the comedy that is far more entertaining off-screen than on-screen, has now virtually lost its male lead as well. Will Arnett has signed on to a CBS comedy pilot about a recently divorced man who moves in with his parents, who have their own marital problems (I wonder to what extent this plot is autobiographical). Technically, this pilot is in second position to 'Up All Night', but it shows how little faith Arnett has in the show ever making it to the air again. And who could blame him..

(02/08) - 2: According to Dan Bucatinsky ('Scandal'), who is currently working with Lisa Kudrow on 'Web Therapy', the rumors about Kudrow joining 'Up All Night' are false. Luckily, because it seemed ridiculous right from the start.

(02/08) - 1: Suddenly, predicting 'Up All Night's future became a lot less difficult. Christina Applegate has decided to leave the show. That leaves the soon-to-be multi-cam without female lead, after suffering other major losses when the series creator, showrunner and several executive producers left the show.
It would definitely make the most sense to just drop the show, but there are rumors that NBC still wants to proceed with the show and that they're eyeing Lisa Kudrow ('Friends') as a possible replacement, according to Deadline. If you ask me, Kudrow would be nuts to join such a train wreck.

The ratings of 'Up All Night's second season are way below the ratings of the first season. Things got so bad that NBC decided to change the format of the show. 'Up All Night' used to be a single-camera show, but is being changed into a multi-camera sitcom. The last few single-camera episodes aired on December 10th, the show will return in April or May as a multi-camera sitcom. It remains to be seen what will happen with the ratings after this big change.

Although the current ratings definitely indicate an upcoming cancellation, this show will return to a Toss Up position. It is impossible to predict whether this change will be for the good or the bad.

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Chicago Fire (Renewed)

(05/09): Chicago Fire gains one tenth in the ratings, this brings this week's rating to a 1.8 in the adults 18-49 demo.

(05/02): After a short hiatus,'Chicago Fire' returns with a rating of 1.7, the same a 'Nashville' which airs in the same timeslot. The total viewer count was 6.35 million.

(04/26): 'Chicago Fire' has now been officially renewed by NBC for another season. A full 22 episode order has been given, just as for 'Grimm' and 'Revolution'.

(04/04): A slight drop to a rating of 1.6 for 'Chicago Fire', dropping down to the lower regions of its ratings. 6.37 million people tuned in to watch.

(03/28): Having a steady rating, 'Chicago Fire' scored a 1.7 in adults 18-49 and got 6.85 million viewers.

(03/27): NBC is reportedly eyeing a police centered 'Chicago Fire' spin-off. Whether that will happen or not, it is definitely good news for 'Chicago Fire'. It is already listed as a Certain Renewal, so it can't be upgraded any further.

(03/21): A drop of 15% for 'Chicago Fire' this week in comparison with the previous episode which aired on the 27th of February, with this week's episode getting a rating of 1.7 in the 18-49 demographic. 6.39 million people watched.

(03/01): This week 'Chicago Fire' manages to gain one tenth to bring this week's rating to a 2.0 in the all important demo. In total 6.62 million people tuned in.

(02/21): 'Chicago Fire' is still steady at a 1.9 in the coveted demographic, with 6.5 million people tuning in. Currently one of NBC's highest rating scripted shows, 'Chicago Fire' is certain to be renewed.

(02/14): Steady in the all-important demographic, 'Chicago Fire' got another 1.9 in adults 18-49. 6.65 million people tuned in. When looking at the graph above, it looks like the show gets extremely high ratings, but keep in mind that all other shows are performing very poorly lately. Either way, rating way above average makes the show certain to be renewed.

(02/07): A drop for 'Chicago Fire', scoring a 1.9 in the 18-49 demographic. 6.60 million people watched this week's show.

(01/31): This week's episode of 'Chicago Fire' got a rating of 2.1 in the adults 18-49 demo, 7.31 million people tuned in.

(01/29): 'Chicago Fire' gets one extra episode, bringing the total to 23. As usual, this will have to do with scheduling.

(01/10): The only NBC Wednesday show that doesn't lose all of its viewers when a little competition returns, 'Chicago Fire' rated a 2.2 last night, with 8.04 million people watching. That makes it the show's second most watched episode in its existence, after last week's. 'Chicago Fire' even beat ABC's highly-anticipated-but-definitely-no-hit 'Nashville' head to head.

(01/04): The first post-holiday episode of 'Chicago Fire' surged up in the ratings opposite repeats on the other networks to series highs. It got a 2.4 in the all-important demo and total viewers was 8.45 million. This is up 26% and 28% versus its last original episode on December 19th.

'Chicago Fire' started its first season of with a rating of 1.9 in the adults 18-49 demo and 6.61 million people watching. The following episodes had ratings fluctuating between 1.4 and 2.2. On November 8th, three days after the show hit its series high of 2.2, NBC ordered a full season of Chicago Fire. After this order the ratings dropped down to a 1.4 but managed to pull in a 1.9 in two out of the three following episodes.

If the show manages to get some stability in the rest of the season it has a chance of getting renewed. The average rating isn't really bad, however, with unstable ratings like these, it is not hard to imagine that the low points will get even lower. If this happens it will get to a point where high points which are slightly above average won't help anymore. This show really belongs in the Toss Up section because viewers can't seem to decide whether to watch the show or not.

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Deception (Cancelled)

(05/09): My prediction was wrong, apparently NBC still has fate in 'Hannibal' since NBC announced 'Deception' wont be back for a second season.

(05/03): 'Hannibal's ratings dropped below 'Deception's series low, as a result 'Hannibal' is downgraded to a Toss Up and 'Deception' is upgraded to a Likely Renewal.

(04/05): The premiere of 'Hannibal' did 25% better than the last couple of episodes of 'Deception'. If 'Hannibal' manages to keep up those ratings, that might be bad news for 'Deception', because it will be NBC's lowest rated not-yet-cancelled drama.

(03/19): Last night the season finale of 'Deception' aired. The episode got a rating of 1.2 in the all important demo and 3.41 million people tuned in. 'Deception' is still likely to be renewed but official news probably won't come until May. The show's fate might also depend on how other shows (dramas, specifically) perform during the next two months.

(03/12): This week's episode of 'Deception' is a 1.1 in the adults 18-49 demo, the same as last week. 3.34 million people tuning in. With these ratings, the show is now a Likely Renewal.

(03/05): A small decline for this week's episode of 'Deception', scoring a rating of 1.1 in the 18-49 demographic, and a total viewer count of 3.35 million.

(02/26): A steady rating for 'Deception', with another 1.2 in the 18-49 demo and a total viewer count of 3.28 million. Because all NBC shows are doing so badly, the show is now a Toss Up again.

(02/20): Tate Donovan (Edward Bowers) has joined CBS pilot 'Hostages' about a family that lands in the middle of a political conspiracy. This is in second position to 'Deception' so if the show continues his role will have to be recast in the pilot, if it gets picked up. However, this does show how much faith the actor has in the show (none).

(02/19): This week 'Deception' got another 1.2 rating in the all important demo, 3.13 million people were watching.

(02/12): 'Deception' managed to rise one tenth in the ratings, bringing this week's rating to a 1.2 in adults 18-49. The show needs to get higher ratings if it wants to live to see another season.

(02/05): Now stripped down to its core audience, 'Deception' was steady at a 1.1 in the all-important demographic. Total viewers did go down by over half a million, to 3.08 million viewers.

(01/28): Even though it has somewhat stabilized this week, 'Deception's 1.2 in adults 18-49 is low enough to be downgraded to Likely Cancellation. With only 3.73 million viewers, chances are this show is not going to last very long. Unless the ratings become very abysmal, don't expect it to be pulled, though, because NBC will want to keep the timeslot occupied until 'Revolution' returns in March (paired with 'The Voice').

(01/22): After the initial drop in the ratings for the second episode, 'Deception' keeps going down. The third episode got a rating of 1.3 in the adults 18-40 demo and 3.61 million people tuned in. If nothing changes next week, the show will become a Likely Cancellation.

(01/15): This week's episode of 'Deception' pulled 4.14 million people in and got a rating of 1.6 in the all important demo. This is 0.4 lower than last week, bringing it below NBC's scripted average and that is not a good sign for the show.

(01/08): The series premiere for 'Deception' got a rating of 2.0 in the all important demo and 5.66 million people tuned in. This is a little low, but the show did win its timeslot.

(01/07): The first episode of 'Deception' will premiere tonight, but NBC already cuts the order for the first season short by two, apparently due to scheduling problems. 'Deception' isn't the only show that loses episodes; 'Revolution' is another victim of scheduling problems.

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Grimm (Renewed)

(05/08): On it's second Tuesday outing, 'Grimm' held up well with a post-'The Voice' 1.8 in adults 18-49. Total viewers went a bit up versus last week to 5.67 million. All in all very good news for the show, although it will probably move back to the genre-oriented Friday next season (it has already been renewed!).

(05/01): 'Grimm' greatly profits from its new timeslot, where it skyrockets by 50% to a 1.9 in adults 18-49. The lead-in from 'The Voice' also made the number of total viewers grow to 5.77 million, which is an increase of 22%.

(04/27): 'Grimm's last episode on Friday drops two tenths compared to the previous episode, making this week's rating a 1.3 in the 18-49 demo. Next Tuesday will be the first episode of 'Grimm' in its new timeslot.

(04/26): Just like 'Revolution' and 'Chicago Fire', NBC has renewed 'Grimm' for another season, with a 22-episode order.

(04/20): NBC moved 'Grimm' from Fridays to Tuesdays to the timeslot of the cancelled reality show 'Ready For Love'. Beginning on April 30th, 'Grimm' will air on Tuesdays at 10/9c, directly after 'The Voice'. This will probably result in higher ratings for 'Grimm'.

Last night the coverage of the capture of the Boston bomber resulted in numerous local market preemptions of shows airing in primetime and changes in the schedules. 'Grimm' was either preempted or a rerun was shown. Next week a repeat of 'Grimm' was scheduled but the episode that was supposed to air last night gets a second chance.

(04/06): This week, 'Grimm' went back up to a 1.5 in the demo, with 5.13 million viewers. The show is still very sure to get a renewal.

(03/30): A small decline for 'Grimm' this week, scoring a 1.3 in the 18-49 demographic. 4.86 million people tuned in to watch.

(03/23): 'Grimm' was steady this week with another 1.4 in the coveted demographic. Total viewers went up a little bit to 5 million. Since it is doing so much better than most other NBC shows, even though it airs on Fridays, 'Grimm' is now a Certain Renewal.

(03/16): In its second episode back, 'Grimm' holds up good, losing only one tenth in the all-imporant demographic. This week's episode scored a 1.4 in adults 18-49 and 4.91 million people tuned in.

(03/08): Returning after three whole months, 'Grimm' scores a 1.5 rating in the all-important adults 18-49 demographic. In total, 4.90 million people tuned in. That is a tad lower than the average for the first half of the season, but since all the rest of NBC has crashed and burned in the mean time, 'Grimm' is suddenly one of the networks higher rated shows. Therefore, if it does equal or better next week, it will be a certain renewal.

The second season premiere of 'Grimm' had a rating of 2.0 and 5.64 million people tuned in. On average the 12 episodes before Christmas got a rating of 1.7. These ratings aren't incredibly high, but Grimm airs on Fridays and those ratings are always a bit lower. The average of this season is two tenths higher than the average of the previous season, this means the show will likely be renewed again based on the current ratings.

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Revolution (Renewed)

(05/07): After last week's drop 'Revolution' gained two tenths which brings this week's rating to a 2.0 in the all important demo. In total 6.06 million people tuned in.

(04/30): 'Revolution' drops to a series low with a 1.8 in the adults 18-49 demo. A total of 5.49 million people tuned in to watch last night's episode.

(04/26): NBC has just announced 'Revolution' will be renewed for another season. Just like 'Grimm' and 'Chicago Fire' it has been handed a full 22 episode order.

(04/23): 'Revolution' dropped two tents, bringing this week's rating to 2.0 in the adults 18-49 demographic. This week's episode was watched by 5.88 million people, a little more than last episode.

(04/09): Adding a tenth in the demo this week, 'Revolution' now scored a 2.2 in the all-important demographic. Total viewers went down a little, to 6.07 million.

(04/02): 'Revolution' got a 2.2 in the rating this week and 6.36 million people tuned in. Although the ratings dropped by three tenths it's still doing really well.

(03/26): Last night the second part of season one of 'Revolution' started. The episode before last night's episode got a rating of 2.9. This week 'Revolution' got a 2.6 in the adults 18-49 demo. It still seems to be on the right track.

(01/07): NBC announced that the order for season one of 'Revolution' has been reduced by two episodes. The first season of 'Revolution' will now have a total of 20 episodes. Since the show is only returning on March 25th, this makes sure that it doesn't run over into June, a thing regular season shows hardly ever do.

The new show 'Revolution' started its season with a 4.1 rating in the adults 18-49 demo. The second episode the rating dropped down to a 3.4. The ratings kept declining bit by bit but they stayed very high. The average rating of all episodes was a 3.1. There was no way NBC wouldn't pick this show of for a full season, and if the ratings stay the same NBC will definitely renew 'Revolution' for a second season.

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Do No Harm (Cancelled)

(04/28): At June 29th 'Do No Harm' will return to burn off the remaining episodes of its first season. However, keep in mind that it is still cancelled.

'(02/09): Even NBC thought that 0.7 ratings are quite low, even for a Thursdays at 10/9c show. 'Do No Harm' is off the schedule immediately and cancelled. The next two weeks, repeats of 'Law & Order: SVU' will air. There is no word on whether (and when) the remaining episodes of 'Do No Harm' will be broadcast. If they will, look for them during the summer.

(02/08): Dropping two more tenths in its second episode, 'Do No Harm' is now at that level that even The CW wouldn't be all that happy with. Scoring an 0.7 in the all important demographic, and with 2.21 million people tuning in, the show is certain to be cancelled.

(02/01): Premiering with an 0.9 rating in adults 18-49, 'Do No Harm' got the lowest in-season premiere ratings on one of the big four broadcast networks ever. With 3.12 million people, the show can be considered dead on arrival. Though leaning towards putting it at Likely Cancellation immediately, I'll leave it at Toss Up for one week.

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Animal Practice (Cancelled)

'Animal Practice's pilot aired directly after the Closing Ceremony of the Olympics. No wonder this episode got a rating of 4.1 in the adults 18-49 demo and 12.80 million people tuned in. Unfortunately most of these people weren't impressed by what they saw, because when the show aired five weeks later in its regular timeslot only 5.19 million people were left watching the show, pulling a rating of 1.4. The ratings got even lower and after five episodes had aired NBC decided to pull the plug. The remaining three episodes were not aired but are available on Hulu.

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Alecia Murphy 4 years ago from Wilmington, North Carolina

I didn't know Grimm was in a sophomore slump. But after last season, I wondered if it really had a core audience. I guess it's another issue of wait and see.


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

Hi Alecia,

Maybe ratings will pick up a little when the others series start airing. At the moment Grimm is surrounded by repeats.


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

I watched Revolution last night. I didn't know about the show until it popped up on my TV. It reminds me a lot of Jericho, another show that I REALLY liked until it got axed. We prostested. They brought it back only to ax it once again. I didn't want Revolution to end last night, but it did. I look forward to the next episode. Fab hub!


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rcrumple 4 years ago from Kentucky

Robin,

Great to keep us informed about these shows. I did want to see the first airing of Revolution, but forgot all about it. Will have to check to see if it's still available online. Great Job!


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

@Sunshine:

I do hope they won't cancel Revolution. For now, the ratings could go either way. Let's try to get everyone to watch the next episode so the ratings will stay high ;)

@Rcrumple:

That's what I'm here for ;) It's a shame you missed the first episode. Be sure to catch the second one!


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

I'm trying my best Robin! We even pimp awesome TV shows:)


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jenbeach21 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

Very useful hub. I am looking forward to watching Revolution. I love Up All Night and I hope it sticks around.


KDuBarry03 4 years ago

Hmm...I've been meaning to check out Grimm; however, I haven't had time to watch TV the past couple weeks! Thanks for this detailed hub keeping everyone updated.


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

@jenbeach

I'm afraid the ratings oh Up All Night need to pick up a little for the show to stick around. We can only wait and see what the coming weeks will bring us. Maybe people didn't realize it was airing again.

@Keith (KDuBarry03)

The latest episode of Grimm aired on September 3th, the next one wont be until September 28th. It could be you haven't missed any Grimm these past couple of weeks! And you have until September 28th to catch up. Grimm is available on Hulu and NBC's website.


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

I'm still rooting for Revolution to be a success. The second episode was just as good as the first. I guessed a few things that I thought would happen and they did, but I won't spill the beans.

Go On doesn't seem very exciting. It's just the usually goofy Chandler. Maybe because I'm a fan of Mr. Bing, I dunno.


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

Yes, I think I'm starting to become a fan too. For a couple of seconds, when Charlie dropped off the ledge, I thought this was going to be Terra Nova all again, with the teen romances. But the stunt she pulled was quite smart, actually. And at the end, well, that surprised me. But then again, given the rest of the episode, I could (should?) have seen that coming.

Go On is not very revolutionary (but there is already another show that is ;) ), but for people who miss seeing Chandler Bing, this might feel as coming home. Even though the others are nowhere to be seen (most of them are on Showtime in Web Therapy and Episodes).


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

Woohoooo for Revolution!!! Last nights episode was awesome!! I'm so bummed when the episode is over! I want more, it's like a drug. A legal kind.


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

I know exactly how you feel! I just need 15 minutes more, just 15 minutes... (You're right, it's a drug, I even sound like an addict!)


Trevor 4 years ago

We think NBC is horrible for canceling animal practice so soon. We loved it more each week and so did all my friends.mBOO NBC and you're putting that lame show back on???? The monkey on the show is brighter than the execs at NBC! We read the ratings went up the week after too. Duh dumb move we'd say!!


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

I'm going to defend NBC here. The show got horrible ratings and they really didn't have a choice. When ratings go up from 1.1 (really horrible) to 1.2 (horrible), that is no reason to cheer or to say "I told you so". If a show gets beaten head-on by The CW, it is beyond saving.

However, I appreciate that you liked the show. Hopefully something comes along in midseason that you like.


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Sunshine625 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

Revolution was awesome last night 10/29! Who woulda thought....whoever missed it must watch it when they get a chance.


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Robin Oatley 4 years ago Author

I heard that from others too! Haven't seen it myself yet, but really should get to that today before I find out what happened some other way..


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NickysMom2003 3 years ago

I watched Go On last night for the first time and I really liked it. I'm ready to let go of Whitney - it sucks nowadays. Maybe I'm bored with her, give "Mark" his own show though. And 1600 Penn was disappointing to say the least.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Melissa,

I really like Go On too! It's so much fun and I often actually laugh out loud, which is a pretty uncommon thing to do for me when watching a comedy. I did like Whitney at first but after a while it got boring, she might be a good comedian but she isn't a real good actress. And about 1600 Penn, I would use some other words, but this might be a nicer way to put it ;).

Thanks for coming by :)


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Mediagyrl 3 years ago

I'm sad that it's looking like "Up All Night" is going to be canceled. I really enjoyed that show. I especially loved Maya Rudolph's character.

As much as I like "Deception" I can't envision what a second season would look like since the first season hinges so strongly on the main character's hunt to solve a murder within a family she's known since she was a girl. I almost think this would have made for a better miniseries.

I love "The New Normal" and I sure hope they don't cancel that show. It's one of my favorite shows on TV right now.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

I agree with you about Deception, you can spend one season solving a murder, but it's impossible to keep your audience when you're trying to solve the same murder for 2 (or even more) seasons. I don't see this happening, so either they solve the murder and think of something else for a second season or they won't renew it. My guess, based on the ratings, is that it will be cancelled.

I enjoy watching The New Normal but I don't think I'll really miss it if it gets cancelled. But NBC has a lot of shows that are likely to be cancelled, and that makes me think the mediocre series like The New Normal will be around for another season. I mean, they surely won't cancel all the series, right?

I don't see any scenario where NBC will decide to give Up All Night another season. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the second part (the new multi-camera episodes) of this season will never be shot.


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Mediagyrl 3 years ago

NBC needs a complete overhaul of their Primetime lineup. I know it's tough to find that perfect combination of what is going to resonate with increasingly fickle audiences, but their track record really stinks right now.

What do you think about that new Netflix series "House of Cards?" I'm trying to set aside some time this week to watch it. I've heard great things about it.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

NBC does need a complete overhaul, but they would never order an entire new lineup at once. That would probably cost too much and is very risky, not to mention the amount of pilots they would have to make. Hopefully the lineup will get better one show at a time.

I haven't seen House of Cards myself, but a friend of mine did. He said that this show is only worth watching if you're into political dramas. He watched the first three episodes or so and he says the show is pretty good, but not awesome. So, if you are into the genre you might want to give it a try!


diane 3 years ago

I love deception can't people never giving new shows chance.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Diane,

While Deception is low-rated at the moment, almost all NBC shows are. As you can see, the show is currently a Toss Up. The woeful state NBC is in might just save Deception here.

Thanks for reading and commenting!


cristin 3 years ago

I love Guys with Kids and Go On! I definitely hope they continue.


KTO 3 years ago

i want the new normal renewed


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Cristin and KTO,

Predicting the fate of individual NBC comedies (except Parks and Recreation) is very hard nowadays. However, the return of The Voice might save Go On, and perhaps The New Normal as well.

Guys with Kids seemed likely to get cancelled at first, but now all shows are doing so horribly, it might just have a chance.

Thanks for reading and commenting!


JoannaJulian Fan 3 years ago

I actually watch Deception and find the show very interesting. This is the ONLY network show I watch. Even with the ratings, the show should still be given a chance for season 2 and maybe in a new time slot and/or new night. I think there is still enough story to be told to carry this show on for another season and beyond. Vivian wasn't the only one who was murdered recently and in the past. Season 2 can focus on those cases along with the exposure of all the dirty doings of haverstock; bowers & other characters. NBC needs to take a chance on Deception. ABC did it with Scandal and look how that turned around.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi JoannaJulian Fan,

With the current ratings, Deception will probably get a chance for a second season. However, that is only because most other shows are doing even worse than this one. The possibility for storylines is generally not a factor in deciding whether a show will be renewed or not, that is up to the writers' staff, only after the network decides to renew the show.

Thanks for reading and commenting!


Kelly Leonard.Georgeton Ontario 3 years ago

Why is it that all the shows that I seem to like get canceled?

Guy's with Kids is a great show.It seems that the only thing on these day's is reality shows.This sucks.


Karen 3 years ago

I feel Deception deserves a second season because NBC does not have any mystery program like that in the line up. I am just so tired of reality TV where shows like Deception is refreshing...NBC comedies feel duds to me since the good ones over the years have been cancelled. Smash Season 2 deserves cancellation after shifting way off mark on the story line from season 1. Just ask CW they are sorry they cancelled the Ringer drama by replacing with it lackluster shows. I feel Networks never give shows to grow an audience or storytell in the beginning to develop the characters. Finally, I do not believe Nielsen families truly respresent us anymore in this digital age!


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Karen,

Personally I think 'Deception' is, as it is now, likely to be renewed. Not because it has such great ratings, but mostly because the NBC shows in general are doing quite poorly. Since renewals and cancellations mostly work through comparison with other shows in the network, 'Deception' should be quite safe for now. As far as the Nielsen families go: statistically speaking they are a quite good representation for the population. Since the networks receive their income primarily from TV advertisements, online ratings and such are less interesting for them because they don't show (the same) advertisements. Of course it would be wise if networks and advertisers were to put some of their attention on online watchers, but as long as they don't do that, Nielsen families are quite representative of the people generating the networks' income.

Thanks for reading and commenting!


JoannaJulian 3 years ago

I really do hope Deception is renewed, it is a rookie show and should be given a chance for season 2. As I stated previously Deception is the only network show I watched. The networks don't try to hang on to shows that can and will grow over time if given a chance to gain a regular audience. Also, times have changed, most people DVR shows, why is this not taken into account as well?

I look forward to your input. Thank You!


Lauren 3 years ago

Keep Grimm and deception! Both are very fun to watch. Also now that a good chunk of your viewers watch online it really would be nice if those ratings were put into account. We have to watch commercials online too!


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi JoannaJulian and Lauren,

Grimm is certain to be renewed. Like I said before, Deception will probably be renewed as well.

As you have already noted, ratings are about commercials. Online episodes don't carry the same commercials as the televised airings, so it would make no sense to add up those numbers. However, online viewings are definitely being measured, but never released. (As far as I know, this is not a big chunk of viewings. Not yet, anyway)

DVR numbers are actually being measured. The ratings I report are Live + Same Day, which means that all people who watched live or via their DVR on the same night (the cut-off point is at 3am). These are the closest to the ratings the networks use (but are never released to the public), which are the C3 ratings; the number of people who watched the commercials (the commercials, so people who DVR and skip commercials are not counted) within 3 full days after the episode was aired.

Then there are also the Live + 7 days ratings, which count all viewings within 7 full days after the episode is aired. These are only released about 3 weeks later, so by then they're sort of outdated. However, they can give sort of an indication how many people DVR certain shows (for instance, younger skewing shows tend to add a lot more in L+7 versus L+SD than older skewing shows).

I have written a series of hubs called TV Ratings 101, which covers all this and much more about TV Ratings: http://robinoatley.hubpages.com/hub/TV-Ratings-101...

Thanks for reading and commenting. If you have any more questions, do not hesitate to ask, either here or as a comment on one of my TV Ratings 101 hubs!


cadinapa 3 years ago

I hope Deception gets a second season. It was pretty good. Hannibal's ratings for its pilot episode were lower than Deceptions pilot. Dot you think both shows will be renewed?


elena 3 years ago

It will be very sad if NBC cancels Deception just because of Hannibal. I even lookked at their 2013 pilots and there is nothing interesting. Finally fans enjoy Deception show yet the network bases too much on ratings that sometimes are flawed. I rather see a network stick to a show for a few seasons to build instead of throwing all these pilots and hoping for an instant overnight success. Fans have invested time in Deception and new fans have joined because they discovered the show on hulu, watchathon Comcast, etc...this show barely had any promotions but have two actors who were in Argo academy winner. I feel NBC can find a spot for this show because its different in their lineup. Far as the comedies majority are not that entertaining. All show have high low points but if they got potential and core audience then its worth saving.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi cadinapa and Elena,

The rating of Hannibal's pilot episode was indeed lower than Deception's pilot episode, but the last couple of episodes of Deception didn't do so good. It's the lowest scoring drama series on NBC right now. There is a chance it's going to get cancelled.

It's still very hard to say if Hannibal will be renewed since only one episode has aired. Once the show has been on for a few weeks I can make a more accurate prediction. I don't think both shows will be renewed, the show with the lowest ratings will almost certainly be cancelled. What will happen to the other show depends on its ratings compared to the other drama shows.

One thing I can say is that NBC will renew the shows that are making the most money right now. If the show isn't doing good now NBC won't invest money to try to make it better, this is too risky. Trying out a new pilot is less risky.

Thanks for reading and commenting.


JoannaJulianfan 3 years ago

I am so disheartened to hear that Deception will be canceeled if Hannibal does better. I just don't see the logic in that consider the time slow and day deception was on and NBC did not even promote it well at all. Most of the viewers came upon Deception either by word of mout or online. It is like NBC set the show up for failure with their lack of promoting it. Plus the lead in for Deception is not as good as hannibal has either. I just don't see how they can truly get rid of Deception without even given it the promotion it deserved from the beginning. This is why I don't watch Network channels anymore they cancels shows left and right without giving it a true chance to grow. In my opinion, NBC would be making a horrible decision if they cancel Deception and Keep hannibal, completely 2 different shows and audience they attract. So for now I hope hannibal is a complete bomb. and continues to falter week to week. I know that is harsh for those who may like Hannibal but if it is a choice between that show and Deception, I am rooting for Deception. NBC and it's dumb logic, wow.

Thank you for letting me rant.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Joanna,

A truly good show should not need extensive promotion to get good ratings. The people who would be interested in the series will hear about it through friends or reviews. Of course a show needs to be promoted before it starts. But once a show has already been on for a few episodes and isn't getting the desired ratings it won't help to advertise it even more. People are clearly not interested in the show.

Thanks for reading and commenting


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jimmyglaughlin 3 years ago from Colorado

Hannibal is awesome!


CP 3 years ago

Hannibal is awesome! I actually like both shows. I wish nbc would renew them both. Just wishful thinking.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Well you are in luck, as I predict Hannibal will be renewed. Of course, it's still early in the season for the show so a lot can still happen. As for Deception, it may be renewed, it may be cancelled. It's hard to say, because it's not doing extremely bad in the ratings, but it's not exactly doing very good in comparison with Hannibal either.

Thanks for reading and commenting


ame 3 years ago

I love Deception. I hope it gets renewed! Tate Donovan is amazing.


Laura 3 years ago

E online has save a show campaign and Smash fans been voting like army group of machines multiple times to get their % very high to win..my question is if they win that poll, do you think NBC will renew instead of cancel it??? Honestly, I have no interest in the show but I would be shocked if they gave that show another chance instead of Deception which deserves it more for season 2.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Laura,

For almost every show that is cancelled or on the verge of cancellation, people start 'save our show'-campaigns. This kind of thing only very rarely works, and it will definitely not work for Smash. Not even if it is E online organizing the petition. With these kinds of ratings, it is just not in the network's best interest to do so because it will lose tons of money over it. I've written a similar comment about 'save our show'-campaigns a couple of weeks ago, you can find it by clicking on this link and searching (ctrl + f) for 'petition':

http://hubpages.com/entertainment/The-CW-Ratings-C...

As for Deception: the real threat to this show is Hannibal, as you have probably read above. But it's not yet certain which of these two (if any!) will survive.

Thanks for reading and commenting :)


Laura 3 years ago

Thanks for your feedback...I had a feeling Hannibal is the key..Far as Smash, those fans now really think the campaign will get them a season 3 like Glee..Sure Smash did great first season but how can NBC justify the poor ratings season 2 when they lost money. I don't think their DVR ratings will save them despite them having social buzz now. My uestion do you think Grimm on Tuesdays will good move or hurt the ratings? Basically its taking over Smash timeslot while Ready For Love got booted.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

That is what the fans always think ;) Like you said, NBC cannot justify renewing Smash for a third season. Besides, once they moved it to Saturdays that was basically them saying: We'll air the remaining episodes, but the show is cancelled.

DVR ratings are always at tricky thing, because only the people that actually watch the commercials matter for the network. Here's more info about DVR ratings: http://robinoatley.hubpages.com/hub/TV-Ratings-101...

Then on to Grimm. I've been thinking about this and it is actually difficult to predict. On one hand, it seems a stupid move because Grimm has been doing just fine on Fridays, being the genre show it is. Especially compared to the last months, it is higher rated than many other NBC shows, that are not on Fridays. On the other hand, the The Voice lead-in has never hurt any show. You could argue that Grimm fans are very loyal and will follow the show to Tuesdays (it's been moved around before), where it will be exposed to new viewers sticking around after The Voice. I think I'm leaning towards the latter option, but I'm not completely convinced yet.


Anne 3 years ago

its sad NBC pulled the plug on ready for love dating. I liked the men selected and the matchmakers but I did not care for the hosts or the audience setup. Finally they were going to get more into the core of the show after the formalities of meeting and choosing the ladies...I hope NBC airs the remaining episodes. Maybe on Friday and make it reality night showsor put it saturday. Like others, I am tired of the Smash buzz lately, if those people now got desperate where was the audience during ratings? I strongly believe a show should stand on its own and not rely on leading. Smash was so low that Deceptiooren was better and more consistent with barely any promo help and fighting against cbs abc shows. I hope your predicting right NBC cancels Smash and if NBC renews I feel it will leave a black cloud where other NBC shows will be baffled and upset to save that poor ratings. Hannibal fans are love hate it cause it seems to be missing something in writing but cast is fine. Ever since that strike, I sense its been hard for shows to be renewed and also some networks are cancelling good shows that are diamond that needs polishing. Overall, I just think viewers tastes have changed and so many channels and shows , loyalty is like out the window.


bill 3 years ago

What if the move for Grimm does not increase ratings Tuesday or if they slip?


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi anne,

I haven't seen Ready For Love, and it looks like I didn't miss much. I'm not really into dating shows anyway. It's unknown if and when Ready For Love's remaining episodes will air.

Regarding Smash: From a financial point of view it doesn't make any sense for NBC to renew Smash. Since NBC (and every other network) is all about making money, it will not renew Smash. So, no need to worry about that ;).

Hi Bill,

NBC probably moved Grimm to Tuesdays to give it a little boost. Usually this day has better ratings and the show is scheduled directly after The Voice, which should make for a nice lead in. The show is already doing really good on Fridays and is having really consisting ratings. In the unlikely event that the ratings do not increase or even slip NBC always has the possibility to move it back to Friday, where the ratings will probably be good again.

Thanks for reading and commenting to both of you!


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Chris Schmidt 3 years ago from Coeymans, New York

Personally I would like Hannabal renewed only because I feel like it could fill my Dexter hole once it ends :(


melissa 3 years ago

My question does Eonline have a disclaimer for poll that says winning does not guarantee renewal...Those beauty beast vs. Smash voters are awful with immature behavior for posting comments. Also if you noticed 5 shows from NBC made it to round two and which of those do you see a renewal??? And if Smash wins would NBC change their minds?


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi Melissa,

I have no idea if E-online has a disclaimer for their polls, but I doubt that they need one. Since E-online and NBC are two completely separate entities (they share their parent company, but that's not a factor here) I don't really see how winning that poll would guarantee anything at all. If I wanted to, I could start a poll asking who should be the next mayor of your hometown, but those results wouldn't be binding either. It would of course be an entirely different thing if the poll was on the NBC.com website, and that is exactly the reason why the networks don't have these polls on their sites.

I haven't looked at the specific E-online poll you are referring to. However, you can find my predictions higher up on this page. The results of that (or any other) poll will not influence the renewal chances of a show.

As I said before (2 comments up), there is absolutely no way Smash will be renewed. Moreover, NBC has effectively cancelled the show already.

Thanks for reading and commenting.


susan 3 years ago

Smash fans have been nonstop in the poll to prove we are dedicated watchers of Smash on TV, dvr, hulu, etc. NBC has not cancelled it and told us last episode is season not series finale. We are going to prove people wrong cause our FB has 16 k, Broadway people behind us, we got international fans, etc. We should be renewed instead of Deception cause their numbers low. Sources say NBC will figure to bring us back despite being on Saturday.


sarah 3 years ago

Question I am not a Nielsen box holder but I watch shows on DVR, does my viewership same and within 3 days count in any towards the Nielsen??? I am also tired of the Smash momentum buzz, would NBC make a dumb to give the show a pass on cancellation and renew???


Tom 3 years ago

My wife and I have a dinner bet, she loves Deception, I love the Hannibal show. But we are wondering with all this noise chatter on Smash fans, do you think the eonline will save them when I just read that Eonline screwed up with a major error where community fans got it to 3rd place for the next round but Carrie Diaries WS listed in the vote box..its sad they allowed all that voting only to close it down last night. What is the validity of the Smash fan noise when the don't make money and my wife has not read the cast comment or support publicly the don't cancel smash campaign. The reason I ask is because Chuck series was saved years ago.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

@Susan and Tom

Like I said before, EOnline does not have the ability to renew a show. It's the network that has to make that decision. Although it's true that over the years some shows were renewed because the fans started big campaigns, 99 out of the 100 cancelled shows with a Save-Our-Show-Campaign were not renewed. The chances of Smash getting renewed are next to nothing. The series has really bad ratings, and NBC would just be throwing away money if it would make another season.

@Sarah

For Nielsen to know what you watch, either 'live' or via DVR, you need to have one of their boxes in your home. Since you don't have one, Nielsen won't know what you watched and thus will you views not count in the ratings.


Chris 3 years ago

So happy to hear about Revolution. It made my night :)


Gayle 3 years ago

Deception should definitely be renewed!


3 years ago

I'm rooting for Hannibal. It has potential and the cast is great. I hope it gets renewed.


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Sunshine625 3 years ago from Orlando, FL

Yay for Revolution!!! I still haven't had a chance to watch Hannibal, but I hope it gets renewed.


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Gayle, I'm sorry to let you know that Deception, among many, many others on NBC, has been cancelled.

Chris and Linda, it's great to see how excited you are about Revolution, though it wasn't a very surprising renewal ;)

M and Linda, in fact Hannibal is the only show that doesn't know it's fate yet. NBC announced yesterday that it would be decided in the next couple of weeks. Fingers crossed!

Thanks for reading and commenting!


mouss 3 years ago

Hannibal is the best show that NBC has produced in years


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Robin Oatley 3 years ago Author

Hi mouss,

As it is, Hannibal is the only show that is neither cancelled nor renewed. It isn't scheduled yet either, but NBC should be announcing its fate shortly. If they share your opinion about the show, it may yet be renewed.

Thanks for reading and commenting!

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