The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn-Part 2

Oh snap! It looks like s*** is going down.  Who says sparkly vampires are wimps?
Oh snap! It looks like s*** is going down. Who says sparkly vampires are wimps?

Twilight Poll

What do you think of the entire movie series?

  • They're totally awesome! Screw the haters, as I thought it rocked! Whoo Hoo!
  • These movies royally sucked, and I hope I never have to sit through these abominations again
  • Eh, they're alright
  • The series did have a few flaws, but they were still fun to watch
  • I love Twilight for the sole purpose to make fun of them!
  • Um...well...my girlfriend likes Twilight...so I guess..I do too...
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The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn- Part 2

Director: Bill Condon

Writers: Stephenie Meyer, Melissa Rosenberg

Cast: Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, Billy Burke, Dakota Fanning, Peter Facinelli, Elizabeth Reaser, Ashley Greene, Jackson Rathbone, Kellan Lutz, Kellan Lutz, Nikki Reed, Chaske Spencer, Mackenzie Foy, Maggie Grace, Jamie Campbell Bower, Christopher Heyerdahl, Michael Sheen

Synopsis: After the birth of Renesmee, the Cullens gather other vampire clans in order to protect the child from a false allegation that puts the family in front of the Volturi.

MPAA Rating: Rated PG-13 for sequences of violence including disturbing images, some sensuality and partial nudity

Twilight Poll

Which Team Are You On?

  • Team Edward
  • Team Jacob
  • Team Why Not Both
  • Team Other (if you say other, then you have to say who it is in the comment section)
  • Team Who Gives A Damn
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Hallujah! The final Twilight film is here! Yay!

If I had to sum up my thoughts on the entire "Twilight" movie series in one word, then I'd have to go with the word, "disappointing." Why do I say this? As I stated earlier in my review of the last movie, there's really no excuse for "Twilight" not to deliver arguably one of the greatest love stories ever told. I mean lets look at the facts for a minute. Unlike most romantic films, "Twilight" has the distinct advantage of having it's story told through five movies; which should lend itself very well into giving any screenwriter and/or director time, to flesh out the characters. Sadly, this never happens. Edward is still boring as hell. Jacob has gone from sad and pathetic to now a possible pedophile. Plus, to make matters worse, Bella is....well she's still Bella.

To be honest, I'm not even sure what's wrong with this series anymore because one might think that maybe it could be better if they had a better cast, and possibly a better director at the helm. However, the results of each film is always the same. Plus, it's not like Robert Pattinson can't act. Hell, his performances in "Water for Elephants" and "Remember Me" were very good, yet in all the "Twilight" films, Robert comes off as lousy of an actor as someone like Jean Claude Van-Damme. Some may ask, "why is it that Robert Pattinson can't seem to act that well in any of these movies?" The same can be said of Taylor Lautner, who isn't a bad actor in his own right....at least that's what some people tell me.

Plus, it's not like this film series was botched up by some moronic director that didn't know what the hell he/she was doing... No, this movie series had four different directors at the helm, so what could possibly be wrong with it? You can't tell me that one of them couldn't produce one good "Twilight" film. I mean that would be statistically impossible to say the least. Well to be fair, the first one was fairly decent for what it was. Sure, it still had it's flaws, but not a bad film nonetheless. Unfortunately, that's more than I can say about the sequels to it.

The sad thing is...this series never lives up to it's full potential. If I had to guess the exact reason behind why the "Twilight" movie franchise fails at being an epic love story, I'd have to point to the screenwriter herself, Melissa Rosenberg, who wrote the script for all the films. Not only is the dialogue a complete cliched bore, but the characterization in this movie is just utterly sad. At no point, did the film ever get me emotionally invested into it's characters. In fact, during some of the film's more tragic scenes, where it's meant to make the audience invested emotionally for it's drama, the sad thing is that during those same moments people were actually laughing. Yes, even the "Twihards" that I had the misfortune to sit next to were laughing their little heads off at these same scenes. Yet, weren't they supposed to be dramatic? It felt that way as you watch it play out in the film, but it never turns out that way.

Not only is that sad, but it's kind of pathetic. Now before a million "Twihards" start saying, "Blah blah, how dare you insult anything that is 'Twilight!' Shame on you! Stephenie if a f***ing genius, and your nothing more than a no talent stupid jackass writing reviews online." Please, hear me out on this. First of all, if you love this series, then that's great. Seriously, I'm glad "Twihards" are passionate about this series; just like I'm happy that millions of comic book nerds find joy in getting all giddy about all the superhero films coming out these days. If you love something, then that's wonderful. Just don't expect me to feel the same way.

Having said all that, I know some "Twilight" haters have cited that it's because the source material is bad already to begin with; hence the mediocrity in the "Twilight" movies. However, since I haven't read any of the books, I won't bother criticizing Stephenie Meyer's novels. No, my business is to only discuss the films, so we'll leave it at that.

To be honest, every time I watch one of these films, I can't help but see the potential of what each one could've been; versus what it actually is. If you stop to think about it, "Twilight" has all the elements in it's own premise to create arguably one of the greatest love stories of all time, as it deals with many complex universal themes that we can all relate to. It deals with elements like forbidden love, racism, war, sex, marriage, teenage angst, and etc. Heck, you even have a character like Bella, who's supposed to represent the average teenage girl. A mysterious vampire, who has a hidden past at first. And of course, we still have Jacob, who's the best friend that suffers from dealing with unrequited love throughout most of this series. How the hell do you not make this work in a movie franchise? Seriously, most screenwriters would kill to have those types of premises to work with, yet for whatever reasons, all these elements get lost in translation when it's adapted to film.

Don't get me wrong, I too laughed during most of the climatic battle scene at the end along with the "Twihards." However, if you watch the scene closely, it almost felt like Bill Condon and Melissa Rosenberg meant for that final battle scene to be every bit as epic as fight scenes you'd see in something like "Braveheart" or "Troy." But you want to know the key difference? In "Troy" and "Braveheart", you still felt something for the characters. Granted both those films were flawed, and cliched ridden. Plus, not to mention there was a lot of one dimensional characters in both films, yet both still managed to convey a story that made their audiences feel SOMETHING for the main protagonists. Whereas "Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn- Part 2", it fails to even get even it's own fans emotionally invested enough to take the battle scene seriously.

But to be fair, I will admit the final fight between the Cullen family and their friends against the Voultris was very well choreographed, and featured surprisingly good special effects. However, as I stated earlier, the film suffers from a mediocre script; which in turn hinders many of the acting performances in this movie.

In the end, I wouldn't go on record saying that any of the films are among the worst that I've seen, nor would I say the franchise deserves the hatred it gets sometimes. But, I'd be lying to a lot of people if I said this franchise wasn't abysmally over hyped. Sure, I can see why a lot of young teenage to preteen girls would love this franchise, but the quality of the films themselves aren't worth the hype it receives either. Hell, the first one was arguably the best of the movies, yet even that one was over hyped as well.

(Warning: Possible Spoiler Alert in this paragraph) Also, I know it's explained in the movie about Jacob falling in love with Bella's child, Renesmee,...er I..I..I mean "IMPRINTING" on her; allegedly saying that his attraction to Bella was really due to his attraction to her future daughter. Sure, Stephenie Meyer does try to explain in various interviews saying how it means Jacob merely becomes her protector, and how it's not creepy...yet...they end up together as a couple later in the film, after Renesmee grows up. Plus, it doesn't really help when Edward tells Jacob that he knows he'll always watch after her if anything happens to him; while Jacob replies asking if he can call Edward...DAD?!? Um...I'm sorry, but I mean this with no disrespect towards Stephenie Meyer...but what in the heck made you think that was a good idea to put into the story? Now, I can forgive the lackluster effort to not even bother researching traditional Vampire lore, as she even admitted she did no research on that before writing her books. Heck, I can even forgive her for having fans that would openly condemn anyone that dares to say one bad thing about "Twilight." But, I can't overlook the fact that the whole Renesmee and Jacob pairing is not only wrong on a lot of levels, but it's kind of creepy. If anything, I'm starting to wonder if Stephenie Meyer has issues or something, but I won't delve into that, as I'm only here to review the film itself and nothing more.

Overall, if you're a huge fan of the series, then you'll still love it. It still features some of the same elements that the last few films had, and the pedophilia concept with Jacob and Renesmee is underplayed; although it's still creepy to think about. As for the rest of the world that might've hated "Twilight", then I'd stay away from this one altogether; unless you're just looking for a good laugh with your buddies to make fun of this one. In the end, I'd have to give this movie a two and a half out of four. The epic climatic battle did make me laugh a lot, at how seriously it tried to take itself, but it's a shame it couldn't get me emotionally invested into it's story line like I was hoping for.....sad...


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Nickalooch profile image

Nickalooch 3 years ago from Columbia, MD

again. i am happy to NOT watch these movies. or review them lol.

how you been bud


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

lol. Your a lucky man then Nick. I'm just happy to get this review over with, so I can now erase all memories of these films from my head forever. lol.

Anyways, I've been doing great thanks. How about you?


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

LOL My nephew loves these movies so I went along to keep him company (and make fun of the show). Along the way I became more interested. I almost voted for team who gives a damn, but changed it to wolf man.

Funny video for guys...sadly, so true, LOL

I'm looking forward to seeing (the end???) of the series. I just saw Kristen in the Snow White and the Huntsman movie. I liked the movie overall, but am so tired of Kristen's limited acting. I thought I was watching Bella in Snow White. Rated up/funny/interesting.


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cperuzzi 3 years ago from Freehold, NJ

I can only watch these movies with the aid of Rifftrax.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

@cperuzzi

lol. that's cool. to be honest, im not even going to watch any of these films again after this review, but if i was ever forced to again, i think ill watch the rifftrax version of it next time. lol. anyways, thanks for stopping bye.

@denise

Yeah it's amazing how true the twilight for guys cartoon actually is, as i can imagine that's exactly how the story probably would've been. lol. as for the snow white and the huntsman film, i still plan on seeing and reviewing that film. sadly i just fell a bit behind these days, but i should be able to catch back up soon. anyways, im glad you stopped by to share some of your thoughts with us, as i hope to see you again soon. :)


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Nickalooch 3 years ago from Columbia, MD

ive been good. between work and school ive been really busy. aside from that I am also making a webseries with a bunch of film school buddies of mine. First episode will air probably in mid January. as douchey as i believe it is, i am writing/directing/composing and starring in it.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

that's cool. be sure to let me know whenever the first episode is set to premiere and ill watch it. you should probably write a hub promoting it to some of your readers. anyways, i hope it works out for you.


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giopski 3 years ago from Oakland, California

At some point, I did see some pedophilia undertone in BD2. It was probably the author's way of not shutting Jacob out of the picture as Team Edward did win over Bella's heart. The love triangle was broken, but another seemingly "unusual" or to use your term "creepy" love interest suddenly sprouted. But come to think of it, Renesmee was a "special" child and she grows in a way that no normal human being would. She would most likely outgrow Jacob in the process even if Jacob goes through his own wolf phases. Neither Edward nor Bella (given her present state) nor Jacob were human beings. The possibility of union between Renesmee and Jacob might sound indeed creepy and to our standards "pedophiliac" but surely, it wouldn't be taboo in their own kind.

Love your reviews though. Keep that pen writing!


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Nickalooch 3 years ago from Columbia, MD

People have told me I should write a preview of it. Big reason as to why I have taken a step back from writing on here is because of that. It takes A LOT of time, but hey I love it.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

@nickalooch

that's cool. well anything worth doing is always worth the effort and time. well good luck to you then. like i said earlier, let me know as soon as the series premieres and ill check it out.

@giopski

That's a very interesting take on the whole pedophilia undertone, as i never thought of it that way before. and in the book series, maybe that offers more of an explanation, but in the movie though, they already explained that renesmee would stop aging at age 7, when her body has matured into an adult; thus becoming an immortal half human and half vampire, as it was explained in the end of the film, which would mean she would never out grow jacob, as jacob isn't immortal. however, she could always turn jacob into a werewolf and vampire hybrid to keep him with her always, but i appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us though.


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

I found it to be very entertaining, why did you watch it if you hate it? lol, guess you had to finish the reviews on all five.

I love how the romance was happy in the end, both edward and bella seemed like the perfect match- forever how cool.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

That's cool. Well to each their own. To me, it just seems like most of the series wasn't developed well from a narrative standpoint; which is why I couldn't get into the series. Don't get me wrong, I did go into each film with an open mind, like I did with "Harry Potter." To be honest, I hated the first two Potter films, but I loved the third movie, and all the films after that one. I was hoping that one of the Twilight sequels would be the film that would change me into a fan, but it never happened. Oh well. Anyways, thanks for stopping by and cheers.


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Hi Steven-I'll be taking my nephew to see this for his birthday this weekend. I'll let you know what I think...


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

that's cool. i hope you both enjoy the movie then, and be sure to wish your nephew a happy birthday for me. :)


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Paradise7 3 years ago from Upstate New York

I only saw the first movie in the series, but I read the whole series in book form. The books were soooo much better than the movie. I, too, was really disappointed.

One big reason was the performance of Kristen Stewart. I saw her in "Into the Wild", and though her part was small, it was memorable and she was simply perfect in her role. I really expected better things from her as "Bella". She underplayed her part so severely that I could not form any affection for her character. She was so lacking in any emotive response at critical moments in the movie that it quite spoiled the film for me. Nobody, in real life, could be quite that deadpan.

It could be the material was very lacking in ways I didn't recognize until I read your review of the film. "Into the Wild" was a great movie; the "Twilight" series, alas, is not.


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

Hey- cheers to you too! :)


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

@schoolgirlforreal

Thanks. :)

@paradise7

yeah isn't that normally the case where most of the time the book will be better than the actual film itself? it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. i too have heard that kristen stewart isn't that bad of an actress either, but then again, i've never seen her in anything else, so i can only go off of what i've seen her in thus far for twilight. however, for whatever reasons, it seems like all the actors that you know can act in this film seem like they can't in twilight. i think a lot of it just had a lot to do with the script, as the dialogue itself could've been written better.

As for "Into the wild", i don't think i've seen that one yet. I heard that was pretty good, so ill be sure to check it out soon. anyways, thanks for stopping by to share some of your thoughts with us again, as it's always a pleasure to see you. :)


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

One thing I don't like is the posters, how dark they are, I prefer normal color.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

That's cool. To be honest, i didn't even notice how dark the posters were until you pointed it out. I guess they were trying to promote the last film to be dark, since it worked so well for harry potter. although for harry potter, the last film of that franchise actually was quite dark. whereas this film, it just doesn't come across that way.


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

I guess so. Yes, I know they did it for that reason.

I read somewhere online or other that the whole Twilight story is stupid becasue if you think about it psychologically, as they put it, the girl bella is basically in love with someone who leaves her and hurts her, and then she doesn't really fall for Jacob who loves her and is or seems more kind.

Do you think that has any resonnacne (spelling)?

Or maybe he was the right one but they just needed time apart to figure it out. I don't know. Either way I guess he was the right one and the good part is they ended together and happy.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

Seeing as how I never read any of the books, I honestly can't comment on that. However, I have seen all the films, and I just think the story wasn't developed well from a narrative standpoint; which is why I think most of the movie's problems lied in the script if anything else.

I have heard similar arguments like the one your saying about how Edward hurts Bella in the series, as I know some people have made claims saying that the story would've been a lot better had it served more as an allegory for women choosing to be in abusive relationships; versus it being a fantasy romance story that's primarily geared to appeal young girls.

(Warning: Spoiler in this paragraph) As far as Bella choosing Edward over Jacob, I could care less either way. As long as she's happy, then that's all that matters. Plus, it looks like whenever Renessme grows up that she'll end up becoming Jacob's new gf, so it looks like everyone ends up happily ever after in this series. yay!


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

yay is right LOL!!! Lol!

yeah as long as she's happy true. good point.

well, happy ending for all :-)

Now for us on hubpages....hmmm that's another story lol


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

lol. good point. lol


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

yes it is. ;)

have a good nite :)


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

you too. goodnight. :)


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Hi Steven-checking back with you to let you know 1). I did see the movie and 2). My opinion-wasn't as good as the previous ones. Although...I have to say the surprise in the battle was not predictable. I wish it would have ended that way, to be honest.


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

eh what can you do though right? I'm glad to hear that you got to see the movie, but sorry to hear you didn't like it as much as the previous ones. How about your nephew? did he like it though?


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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Oh yeah, he was excited and afterward when he asked how I liked it I tried to show some positive enthusiasm for it. I am glad I saw it, and we both discussed the 'surprise' that had us at the edge of our seats. It was a tad more gorey than the other ones, too I think (if memory serves me accurately).


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Stevennix2001 3 years ago Author

Yeah, I think you're right about that. It seemed like they were trying to make the final film every bit as epic as the final harry potter movie was. Sadly, I don't it worked too well. Although I have to say the choreography and special effects were good for that one climatic scene though. Anyways, I'm glad to hear he enjoyed the film, and that you both got a chance to see it. Were you both planning to see "The Host" next year as well? I know that's another movie that's being released that's based on one of Stephenie Meyer's novels.

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