WOW, that's like: what's better, the Les Paul or the Strat?
Ok, I'll throw a curve: was watching Creole King (an Elvis flick--one of his self-favorites) the other day and saw where MJ--and Prince--got 'mad' moves from 'the King'.
To me, Robert Johnson, Bo Diddley, Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Ike Turner, Elvis (and perhaps Jerry Lee Lewis) were all KINGS of R+R. MJ just didn't have the manliness those guys had. And to me, any King of Rock, including Run-DMC--LOL--has to be manly...no ''yee-hees'' allowed.
As for the Fab Four (Beatles), I simply don't count them on the same level as the aforementioned persons...They were--to me--the Kings of Rock's 2nd Wave, which was the Brit Invasion (which hasn't ended, btw).
It has to be the Beatles for the extraordinary diversity of their output. The Beatles pushed themselves to change and grow, to experiment, to explore. They did soft ballads (Michelle, Blackbird), hard rockers (Helter-Skelter, I Want You), sound experiments (Revolution 9), and Tin Pan Alley (Honey Pie). They experimented with chord dissonance (Strawberry Field) and Eastern sounds (Norwegian Wood).
Michael Jackson was great, extraordinary, and highly influential but he cannot approach this level of complexity and variety.
This allegation was never proven, and the FBI released 600 pages indicating there was absolutely no PROOF. And If you never met Micheal Jackson it is impossible to make comments with out fact to substantiate you claim.
Easily The Beatles. Michael Jackson was gigantically talented, but he took a musical art form (Soul, specifically Motown style Soul) and advanced it further and performed remarkably well - but The Beatles made Beatle music. They did songs that simply weren't reasonable songs for the radio of rock & roll fans to count as Pop or Rock music, had anyone else put some of their songs out they would have been laughed at - but The Beatles were so huge and so hugely influential, that whatever they did became an acceptable from or style of Pop/Rock music . . . it was now ok to listen and perform songs like 'that' because The Beatles did it. They changed the course of music in a way Jackson, and nobody else but Benny Goodman, Bing Crosby, Elvis, and Sam Cooke did.
Both of them are great. But for me, Michael Jackson is the greater one, because he grow to be the great one in my era. I also like some songs of the Beatles like "yesterday, Michele, mother", but there are many more songs sung by Michael Jackson that I like better --- like Ben, Black and white, Thriller, Billy Jean, earth song, and many more.
For me this is like comparing pears and apples. Both acts were great. Both rightfully deserved their places in music history, by taking their music where noone dared to before them. Both made music that will be remembered for years and years to come. But at the same time, MJ was a true pop artist. Beatles were a pop-rock band. Eras when they created were different, so were the styles their nurtured.
With all that, I can not truly say who was greater. Both? None? No conclusion from my side.
I have a hub about MJ, I respect his genius. But my all-time love will be the Beatles. I'm in my mid-30s, was born after their heyday, discovered them during my high school years, and was - is - hooked!
Got to be The Beatles. And I would guess that even worldwide The Beatles are much more popular as proven by Wikipedia statistics.
So far in 2009 on Wikipedia The Beatles is the second most popular page (on average of 111,896 views a day), with MJ's page being only 3rd (an average of 79,734 views per day in 2009), despite the fact that there was the death which would be expected to increase traffic.
IMO the Beatles changed the world more than anyone else in this category, Elvis made us rock early on, but then he was drafted and came back to make those silly movies. He luckily rebooted himself and became King in his own right.
The Beatles are the greater of the two . Michael Jackson was talented and I did enjoy a few of his songs, but who can beat Abby Road. One thing I do admire about Jackson though is he enjoyed listening to the Moody Blues, who I will always like more than the Beatles .
Off topic but one singer that a lot of people liked and I couldn't believe they would like was Bob Dylan. What's the appeal? People have said he's very poetic and profound, but I couldn't get past the voice.
there were four Beatles and only one Michael Jackson - that is true. but The Beatles' music was four guys writing, singing, and playing the drums and the guitar. they didn't have an army of mixers, technicians, well connected handlers (Quincy Jones, Smokey Robinson, etc.), publicists (when John Lennon made the gaffe - "we are bigger than Jesus", he handled it himself with a short statement), dancers, lyricists and costume designers...
Unless you went through "Beatlemania" you cannot imagine the impact and influence they had on music and society. I've never witnessed anything like it since. Their lyrics and music was so different than anything before. As a musician myself, I am still enthralled with many of the songs they wrote and performed. No two songs are alike, rare for a successful group, then and now.
I think that whichever decade you grew up in will determine a person's vote here. I grew up in the 80's so I was influenced more by HJ than the Beatles, but my Mom is a big fan of the Beatles and not MJ. Different eras, different influences. Both great musical icons however!
MJ did great songs, but they couldn't touch the Beatles! Their songs are largely dated now, but I'm sure if John Lennon was still alive he'd still be writing those great songs. All the Beatles were singer/songwriters - with maybe the exception of Ringo Starr? Or did he write any? What did Michael Jackson write?
Michael Jackson the king of pop wrote at least 181 songs dumb ass. Here is a list of some of them.
Scream, Beat it, another part of me, black or white, jam, can you feel it, remember the time, heal the world, the way you make me feel, liberian girl, dangerous, shake your body (down to the ground), i just can't stop loving you, in the closet, we are the world, smooth criminal, stranger in moscow, say say say, wanna be starting somethin, will you be there, give into me, the girl is mine, can you feel it, break of dawn, you rock my world. billie jeane, dirty diana, bad, lovely one, leave me alone and state of shock to name a few. The list goes on and on. Educate yourself before you post bullshit.
In regard to the Beatles or Michael Jackson, both are top of the line artists for their time. I enjoy both and couldn't possibly choose one over the other.
I'm not sure who I discovered first...Michael Jackson as a little man within the Jackson 5 or the Beatles after hearing Paul McCartney and Wings for the first time. It seemed as if I heard something else by the Beatles (something I hadn't heard before) every year, and at the same time Michael Jackson was always heard on the radio with something new.
The Beatles artistry lies within their songwriting and their mastery of performance. Michael Jackson's artistry was evidenced throughout his life by way of pure talent in singing, dancing, songwriting, image make-overs, and visionary videos.
Which do I listen to the most? It depends on what mood I'm in.
You mean *Group*, don’t you? We are talking a group and one entity – different dynamics altogether!
"Greater *entertainer* than MJ" ???
“entertainer” or entertainer(S)? Again…we are talking a group and one entity – Apples and an Orange! Or, Oranges and an Apple!
Here is the more realistic way of putting it:
Now...Take all the Beatles as a *Solo* (just as MJ was) "entertainer"....(I LOVE Paul with Wings / solo and 2-3 Lennon songs)....However...Not ONE of the Beatles as SOLO artists has had the *Global* impact / influence that Michael had. You can’t dispute that fact!
My opinion is that Michael Jackson was a kid toucher, bottom line. I loved Jackson's music when I was a kid, but when he started bleaching his skin and wearing shin guards, I realized something wasn't quite right...
Since, Michael Jackson newest documentary is out about the late great artists departure. I became quite curious to see how the world feels about his legacy. Therefore, I'm launching this post to get feedback...
I think "Man In The Mirror" represents Mike best. He was about everything good. He wanted people to change their thinking and behaviors. This would change how people treat each other and the environment.