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The 'individual' challenge.

  1. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Someone in the forums can't post a single statement without using the word "Individual". He likes alot of attention so I am sure this will go really well.

    The challenge is to dig deep through the forums and find some of these "individual" statements to past in this thread. should be fun.

  2. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Bonus points for multiple times posted in the same sentence.

    real example.

    "Yes, a mind is born individual to develop an individual belief."

  3. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "Just a contradiction to an individual mind"

  4. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Why, because he would have an individual belief and would have no followers?

  5. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    No, all of the thanks is to you for having an individual mind.

  6. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Now team up with your christian buddies to rid the individual.

  7. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    I understand why you'd be angry with Marinealways, but I think this is a little ridiculous.

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thats just an individual thought.

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This is how your faith causes believers to react. A childish emotional reaction when their faith is offended. Emotional reactions contradict logical reactions. You wouldn't believe this because your faith wouldn't allow it.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        don't act like this is stooping considering your last thread.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Do you disagree with my comment? Are you using logic or emotions because I offended your faith?

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you could never offend me after I congratulated you for being "SAVED".

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Thats what happens when you make faith based comments without reading to find logic.

  8. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    they are contradicting having an individual mind to create their individual belief.

  9. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    lol This is Excellent! Keep going!

    If anyone was guessing, he is talking about me. You are supposed to rid the individual, not promote them.

    No publicity is bad publicity.

    lol

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      will you dig through your individaul archives and pull some up

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I don't have to pull out my book of belief to read what I believe, I have them memorized. They were individual thoughts, not trained ones. Individual ones are easier to remember than the trained ones. The trained ones only come through repitition like reading the bible over and over. The individual ones come naturally.

  10. Flightkeeper profile image79
    Flightkeeperposted 7 years ago

    Oh Sooner, you should do one where the sentence contains "logic".  Those sentences usually contain very little of it! big_smile

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      smile

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You contradict logic. Happy?

  11. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Flightkeeper, type "individual logic" in the search bar. haha smile

    can't make this stuff up.

    1. Flightkeeper profile image79
      Flightkeeperposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No way! lol That was too funny...and silly!  And the two words together don't make even make any sense lol

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol They don't make sense because you are blinded by faith.

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      thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh boy lol I guess I missed it when you started this one. lol

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I can't even laugh any longer. Its like "you can't pollish a turd" The only way I could figure is if you dipped it in crome and then what? You still just have a turd.

  12. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    I consider all grouped belief to be a contradiction of absolute individualism.

  13. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    I also believe all belief should be open to debate without arrogance or ego to find true individual belief.

  14. yoshi97 profile image86
    yoshi97posted 7 years ago

    Not that I am happy with Marine's 'little experiment', but he did force a point in front of the class. We think too much as a group and not enough as individuals.

    Check out the thread ... another person responded congratulating Marine on being saved. They did so without reading the thread at all ... because they have been trained to congratulate a person for being saved, and no ignore the many posts in the thread that speak out to the contrary.

    I think the idea of individualism is threatening because believers see it as 4.5 billion individual churches opening up, each with their own road to ascension. The fact is, a man's relationship with God has and was always meant to be intimate and personal.

    Noah never attended a church, nor did Adam or Moses. They spoke to God privately and believed as they felt they should. Their beliefs were individualistic, as no one was there to tell them how they should believe.

    For many years I was like you. minding over the crops of my neighbors as I saw them unfit to handle a plow, but when I let it all go I discovered my own crop had run foul from neglect, making me a poor choice to be followed.

    That's when I decided to mind my own crops and only offer advice when encouraged to do so ... and my harvests have been bountiful ever since.

    We ARE individuals, so we must have an individual relationship with God. And should they chose to ignore or disbelieve in God, well, that's a decision that only affects them, and none of us can be totally certain it might not have any affect at all.

    Have any of us witnessed a sinner burn in purgatory with our own eyes? Have any of us seen a person ascend to heaven? We accept the Bible and everything in it with faith because we feel we have proven it to ourselves as true ... and we must allow others the chance to do the same.

    Had God wanted us all to believe the same then we would have all been born of the same womb. God respects individualism ... and what proof do I have of that? Because God created individualism on day one when he made Adam and Eve, instead of two like-minded Adams.

    Given that Adam would never age nor die, there was never a reason to create a being so different from himself, unless individualism had been the true intent. smile


    And for the non-believers it's an easier leap ... As we are not exact clones of each other, it's obvious nature favors randomness and would expect us to behave as individuals. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amazing. I very much respect what you wrote. I'm sorry to say that some or many believers will now bad mouth you for saying you learned something from a non believer. Thank you for having a strong enough mind to write your honest opinion.

      Another assumption I find amusing is, many assume that I don't believe in creation simply because I don't believe the bible while never asking the question if I believe in a creator on an individual level.

  15. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Yoshi-

    "another person responded congratulating Marine on being saved. They did so without reading the thread at all ... because they have been trained to congratulate a person for being saved, and no ignore the many posts in the thread that speak out to the contrary."

    actually, he never came clean in that thread. to find anything, one had to track where else Marine was posting in hub pages. I know you two are buddy buddy and peanut butter and jelly or whatever- but even after reading the whole hub, I was not sure.

    In short, your novel above is a bit pointless.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Nothing learned from is pointless. Everything can be learned from. Your faith makes it pointless.

    2. yoshi97 profile image86
      yoshi97posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Then you don't know history well ... I was the one that outed him on the first page and me and marine have rarely seen eye to eye in the past. I do, however, agree with him on the fact that faith CAN be blind, but I do not subscribe to the point that ALL faith is blind.

      Case in point ... I'm a believer, as is Thetruthhurts. We both outed the hoax immediately, but people wouldn't believe what we had to say because Thetruthhurts is often seen as the zealot and I'm often seen as a non-believer because I believe in evolution.

      What me and Thetruthhurts both agree on is that none of us has all of the answers and that when something doesn't seem quite right we question it.

      That was the point of my post ... we all knew marine's previous views and yet few questioned his miraculous transformation, even when people were stating it was all a hoax. We want so much to believe in change that we are willing to get suckered in ... and I know that's the frustration you feel right now, as you see yourself as no more than a sap that got taken.

      That's why I kept digging at Marine to out the truth as I knew how others would see his deceit when it was finally fully exposed, and I knew how it would hurt and anger people ... and I didn't want to see things build up to that.

      I genuinely like people and I am very protective of those around me. Because of that nature, I'll do anything in my power to stop one person from hurting the feelings of another when it's within my power to do so. Unfortunately, faith trumped the truth I was offering, and many saw me as picking on Marine for being saved. Nothing could prove further from the truth, as I have congratulated others for being saved, when I knew the statement to be true.

      It's not my job to look out for others, but I do accept it as part of what I am. Case in point, when Spiderpam was being called names. While we don't see eye to eye on many things, I still respect her as a human being and stood up for her when she was being oppressed.

      As a believer you can't pick your battles ... you stick up for anyone who is being oppressed, despite your differences with that person.

      Just like now, if someone were to come into this thread and start calling you names. I would see if you had given them enough reason to do so (had you called them names in the past or wronged them grievously?). If I found you were being wronged unfairly I would defend you to the hilt.

      What Marinealways did in that thread was wrong, but the message was one many of us needed to hear ... never follow blindly ... justify each step by assuring that the ground you chose to step upon is truly there.

      By that I mean ... always seek proof for everything ... and your faith will become that much stronger, as you will prove it to yourself every day. smile

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I don't read novels sorry. this forum is about "individaulism" ok. sorry you wasted your time.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Are you serious? You clearly refuse learning anything to protect your faith.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    I think many people were happy for him, not because they were trained to be so without thinking but because the thread was too long to read. Since this idea was "in the air" I guess, I had been expecting someone to do exactly what he did so it didn't catch me by surprise. Plus I'm naturally (or have been trained to be :-) suspicious generally.

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      good point. I thought that the title and first page was enough. Thats when I congratulated him. Also, i can relate the the feeling of being saved.

  17. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    the unfortunate thing about exposing marine is now he is going to feel the need to "talk" his integrity back. It's going to be painful and involve a slew of trolling and the buddy system(cags).

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    Know what sooner? He didn't have to come clean, the very phrasing of his statements were a giveaway. There was no true joy, surprise and excitement coming through.

  19. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    individually speaking? Thats not logical.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    QUOTE:
    ...while never asking the question if I believe in a creator on an - individual - level.

    -----------
    LOL! I suppose that was intentional? :-)

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      no, you are assuming too much. he's not that smart. I still love the individual that he is though.

    2. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that hard for you to understand?

  21. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "I do not depend on a book to define my individual faith. People were meant to individualize"

  22. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Thats my individual prerogative.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      to go along with your faith based group belief. Makes perfect sense, or not.

  23. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    a prerogative is an exclusive right given from a government or state and invested in an individual or group

    can that be more fitting? haha

  24. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    night everyone.

  25. yoshi97 profile image86
    yoshi97posted 7 years ago

    Good night, Sooner. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.

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    TMinutposted 7 years ago

    marine - is what hard to understand? That you intentionally used the word 'individual' again, or that you may believe in a creator?

    Either way, no, of course it's not hard for me to understand, why would you ask that? Even if it wasn't intentional, there's no insult (you sound insulted). I just thought you may have done it to be amusing.

  27. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "If a government was only consisted of individuals, it wouldn't be a government"

  28. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    the latest.

    "I am unequal for having an individual belief"

  29. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    this just in.

    "A person may live their entire lives never realizing they have an individual mind due to a follower taught belief. The faith isn't taught to give individuals something to believe now is it?"

  30. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    sloppy drunk....

    "Maybe you should develop an individual mind and self awareness to take notes for your own diagnoses."

  31. marinealways24 profile image61
    marinealways24posted 7 years ago

    All those comments and you still have no comprehension of what an individual is. Sad.

  32. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    just as soon as you are banned marine, just know that I am the person who flagged you.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Protect the faith!

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      1. big_smile

  33. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Protect your pride.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The bible taught of pride being ignorant. You claim to know the bible better than me?

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        yeah, enlighten me with some scripture genius. something you have never done before.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What in the bible do you understand more clearly than me?

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            thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Genesis through Revelation. big_smile

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Pick a quote or verse and lets go through some interpretation if you are so confident in what you know.

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                thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Why? You're unarmed and have no bible knowledge, just straw. Quick someone light a match! lol

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Fear

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                    thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    lol Yep that must be it. roll

  34. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Not worth my time.

    did you really serve in the military? I don't believe that either. I have read your resumme- and you have bounced between quite a few jobs for being 30. 4 years in the military huh? I doubt it.

    the real leaders and retired military are confident, not obnoxiously prideful. the real hero's are the ones who don't brag about it.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Is that it? What have I bragged about? Why are you scared to show you know your belief better than I know your belief? Do you fear I will be right?

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Well that's mostly true, but if there's one thing Marines do its brag. We even brag about how well we brag, sailors complain, and jarheads brag. Trust me go hang out in the barracks at Lejeune and bring some cotton for your ears. Brag, brag, brag. Now if someone actually brags they were special ops, then in that case, yes they are lying their face off.

      Nevermind I stand corrected see above.

      1. marinealways24 profile image61
        marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Agreed! I do make attempts to not brag and be humble.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Not me

          1. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol honesty always counts for something.

          2. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            That's why I said the 'real hero's' act a certain way. You have your military backing. I have hundreds of interviews with WWII vets for one of the books I am finishing. They don't all brag. thats for certain.

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              Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Now that just hurts...good thing I don't call myself a hero, those guys have white crosses on their graves and tombstones in Arlington. Nice to see you don't brag yourself, or act condescendingly or critically of everyone who disagrees with you, or else your anger over marine would almost seem a little hypocritical and wasted. You certainly would never resort to name calling or personal insults...not you never.

              1. sooner than later profile image61
                sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                1.

    3. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      How much time have you served for your country hero? All I see is what your friends said. Likely because you have no personal experience sacrificing for the country. Live through your friends.

  35. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "lol honesty always counts for something."

    How would you know peanut butter.

  36. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    How personal do YOU want to get?

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Sooner you go ahead and show all the world just who you really are. You were made a fool of and now you want to take it out on someone. So go ahead and show all of us on Hubpages just how mature and Christlike you really are. say whatever you want, do whatever you want, and fling all the crap you want. I know who I am and what I've said and I apologize when I go to far and say so. if you have some personal issue with me then say what you will and let all of the forums see how you are. I know my past and I am honest about it and forthright with everyone I meet today. What I do not do is claim to be something I'm not and cry on three threads about how hurt I was and show how good i am by starting a thread to criticize another hubber. So go ahead and start your crap and we'll see how long it takes you to get banned.

      Or you could just wait a few hours for me to leave then talk about my integrity to people. that's your stile isn't it.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I smell your under-current like a catfish smells stink bait. you cannot post to me without an under tone. say what you must- but I see you for what you are.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          What's that, don't let your nuts lock up now that your mouth has run off with you. It's okay to let everyone see how you really are. You want to unload on people like me so bad you can taste it. But you're afraid, afraid people will see all that hate and anger that's really there. You want to see people like marine burn in hell, you want the world to end so you can get your reward and make sure all those people who dared to question you get what they deserve. he didn't make a fool of you, you made a fool of yourself.

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            3.

          2. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank You Marine!

      2. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        2.

  37. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    If you would take your own advice 1 out of 10 times, you would be 10% likable.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      yeah you're a fountain of knowledge, I told them to walk away because they were being played, and manipulated, but I see your game and you don't scare me, all you have is the same tired little routine, and insults. People almost felt bad for you, then you opened your mouth again. Get over your problem and anger towards people with the courage to do what you wish you could.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        4.

  38. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    almost half way there, don't stop now.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Okay i think i just took care of number five, but I'll need a second to think about 6-10, are we going to 10 or higher?

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        your playing field scott. surprise me.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Still thinking...hmmm...what could I say to someone that thinks he is the ultimate authority on God, and morality?

    2. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      You'll get what you deserve ,sooner than later.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        what do I deserve?

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Huggs and Kisses and big shiny boxes wrapped in red bows, merry Christmas...we'll call that 7/8 somehow.

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            no, that sounded nice.

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              Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Okay I'll try again then but I thought that one was pretty good

              1. sooner than later profile image61
                sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                +1 for comment #7. you may be 10% likable after all.

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                  Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  That did it, I'll not have you spreading malicious rumors about my likability around the forums....you're flagged now buddy.

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    Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago

    Oh look if only you could cut and paste hubs you'd be more well liked, but at least we can see that you can count. sad

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      5.

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    Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago

    Does it need to be pure insult or will something tongue in cheek do?

  41. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "Still thinking...hmmm...what could I say to someone that thinks he is the ultimate authority on God, and morality?"
    6.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ...

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    Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago

    Wait, I got it...You silly love filled believer, I hope your eternal reward is a life in God's presence filled with the joy and love that comes from being united with your creator, and to go forth in purpose....Ha take that.

  43. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    ok 40%. glad we got that out.

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Anyway, I meant what I said to you on the other thread, let it go, and walk on. Keep your faith close and live a good life. We all agree it was a childish game and in poor taste, but what can you do. Worry about yourself and the ones you can save, God is big enough to deal with the rest. It's been fun playing tennis, but I have to go, have some studying to do, and an early appointment. Don't let people get you so worked up, it's not good for your sanity.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        1.

        are we starting over smile

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          Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I start over everyday, there's nothing wrong with you, and I got no problem with you. passions run deep and spark words, enough said. Seriously I gotta go, you all behave. big_smile

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            good bye scott. God loves you and so do I.

          2. marinealways24 profile image61
            marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Have a good night.

  44. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    Jesus had the ability to calm an argument with no words spoken at all. two examples that I can think of are;

    1. forgiving the adultress
    2. foot washing at last meal

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What is your point?

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        remember the first conversations we ever had, where I said that more reading would do you good- instead of me giving you every answer. if it matters to you, look it up.

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You need to read parrables to define your individual conscience? Doesn't sound logical to me. Do you think writing those 2 lines prove you know the bible better than me?

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      Scott.Lifeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Both two very powerful lessons on humility patience, and what really matters in life.

  45. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    "Do you think writing those 2 lines prove you know the bible better than me?"

    No, its much deeper than that. please don't be a bible expert too.

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      So, how can you prove you know the bible better than by rather than writing 2 silly parrables left open to interpretation?

  46. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    I can't. I think you know more than me. must be all your experience in the world. chuckle smile

    have you started mopping up your messes?

    1. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Fear.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        you have asked alot of questions lately. do you think you know more than me about the bible?

        1. marinealways24 profile image61
          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          The psychology, yes.

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            this just leads to your "the bible was created" BS. You are a circle of little new information. 2 months of the same agenda and you only have Cags on your team. your lack of historical backing and biblical knowledge are not comical unless you are from the outide looking in. Me.

            1. marinealways24 profile image61
              marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I do not have a team. How can we be a team when we have different individual beliefs? Just because we can come to logical conclusions doesn't mean we are the devil. What historical evidence proves the bible as divine to you? Why do you believe you are favored to believe and I am not?

              1. sooner than later profile image61
                sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                yawn

                1. marinealways24 profile image61
                  marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Fear

                  1. sooner than later profile image61
                    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    yes... booo hooo hooo. yes I have fear. sniff. there are so many things that I want to tell you, but you aren't old enough yet.

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    Justine76posted 7 years ago

    im lost goodnight boys. hope you come to some sort of standstill. you will never convince each other, and bans only last 3 days. unless you get a new profile.
    marine, really, if somethings wrong, write me. forums are bs

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      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Have a good night.

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        Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        smile

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    thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago

    http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/Real_AirCooledMan/deadhorse.jpg

    Double yawn!!

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      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      At least he isn't beating a dead sheep.

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        thetruthhurts2009posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz LAME!

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    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    I only post this much with you so that you can't corrupt your kid. I figure the more you are here, the safer the child.

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      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Alright, teach me the bible like jesus taught you. What am I doing wrong. Am I giving in to the devil? I'm not the one teaching my kid favoritism unlike yourself.

      and separatism.

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        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        wait right by your key pad for a half hour or so. I'll pull up some scripture that I think you need. If it takes a little longer, keep waiting- I just want to make sure I am giving you the right stuff.

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      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The funny thing about this statement is: If my kid had a life threatening illness that could be cured with medicine, I would rely on logic and medicine to save my childs life.


      I wouldn't be surprised if you let your child die because you would pick faith over medicine. It wouldn't be a first a believer has trusted faith over medicine letting their child die of a curable disease that could have been treated with medicine.

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        sooner than laterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You're still here? Its working. smile

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          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Fear

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    sooner than laterposted 7 years ago

    btw, death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.

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      marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Death is peaceful when they have "faith" in a favored afterlife.

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        Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        afterlife or not, hes right. you could be left behind.

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          marinealways24posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          How is that? I never said death was the worst thing that can happen to a person. I think never recognizing an individual mind and belief is the worst thing that can ever happen to a person.

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            Justine76posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            what? i need to shut up now
            so sorry, way overtired.....keepp crossing threads n cant seem to stop.
            be at peace all, ill try to shut up. smile

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