The 1940 Census Record Is Out. Secrets Revealed After 72 Years. Genealogy.

Grandpa and Grandma
Grandpa and Grandma
Elizabeth Jefferson
Elizabeth Jefferson

What You Will Find.

Home owned or rented

If owned free or mortgaged

Family Number

Surname

Given Name

Relationship

Sex

Race

Age Estimated Birth Year

Single, Married or Widow

Citizenship

Education

Marital Status

Birthplace

Mother’s tongue

Father's Birthplace and Tongue

Mother’s Birthplace and Tongue

Able to Speak English

Occupation

1940 Out Soon

There will be secrets revealed in the 1940 census I'm sure, what will they be? Maybe Aunt Grace had married before and no one knew. Maybe there is an extra child in the family and no one ever knew about this child. I found my grandmother had a brother no one in the family knew about him and grandma never mentioned him. He died when he was fifteen a brother my grandmother never talked about. He was an extra uncle my mother couldn't even explain.

I do genealogy for my family and my husband’s family. I am so happy 1940 is out on April 1, 2012. It will take awhile for all the listing state by state. I should be able to look through the pages pretty fast.

A Few Facts

They open up every 72 years.

The first was after the Revolutionary War in 1790. At the time, the population was 3,929,326.

The last was in 2010 and the population at the time was 308,745,538.

The census is not perfect, but it is the best thing we have. It’s taken every 10 years in years ending in a zero. They use to do it by going door to door and still do much of it this way today. They ran into many problems. People hid not wanting anyone in their business. The taker didn't always know how to spell, so names listed on the list of families would be spelled wrong. The spelling of the name would change from census to the next. Maybe they stopped at a pub and were drunk. Who knows how there are so many mistakes. Many were threatened with guns to get off of the property. Many people didn't know when they were born so their ages changed over the years. You have to be a detective to do genealogy.

It's an interesting piece of paper. I have done lots of checking in the southern states because this is where my family is from. In the south, they list White, Black, and Mulatto. They never mention Indian. I have checked from the North, upper Michigan and Wisconsin they list Indians.

When my family from the south asks if there is any Indian in our family I can't tell them there is. I have not found Indian anywhere in the family. If someone has seen Indian listed in the southern states please let me know. My cousin's great-grandmother was my grandmother's sister. My cousin had her DNA done and there was no Indian. If she has no Indian from that side of the family I would think I would also have no Indian. The best place to find your Indian heritage is to check the Dawes Rolls or have DNA done. .

Example of the 1840
Example of the 1840

Names of Family Members not Listed Until 1850

They didn't start listing family members by name until 1850. Before this, they only listed the head of the household and how many were in the house and what age group they were in, boy or girl. 1850 also does not have as much information as following years.

The sad thing is 1890 is gone. The missing census would really help find some missing links. It burned in a fire in the National Archives in 1921.

You can get free records through the libraries.

Ways of Checking.

I was looking for my 3rd great-grandmother. Elizabeth Jefferson Jarboe. I was having trouble locating her. I had her in 1850 and Grandpa Jarred was still alive and her daughter Mary and Mary’s husband William were living with them. Their name was spelled Hooper in 1850. When looking for Jarred and Elizabeth, I couldn't find them in 1860. So I started looking for Mary. Mary was her baby and babies always live close to Mom and take care of them. This was how I found her. Mary's last name was Hooper but I knew the spelling could be off on the name. It was 1860 was spelled Harper. But living next door to Mary Harper in 1860 was Elizabeth Jarbo. Elizabeth's name had also been spelled wrong.

So is Mary a Hopper or a Harper?? The answer to this mystery is below.

There are always mysteries sometimes you have to look at them page by page and at each and every person where you think your family member might be.

You always have to check and see who the neighbors are and see if you can find more family members. People didn't live very far from each other. They were close and took care of family and of friends. Children were often named after family members or after friends. This is what makes it such a mystery when you might have dozens of Mary’s with the same last name. If you lose a family from one census to the next then try tracing their neighbors you might find them this way. They traveled together when they moved they all seem to move together. Sisters often married neighbors, brothers. My own great-grandmother married her sister-in-law's husband after my great-grandfather died, and her sister-in-law passed away.

They often had as many as three spouses, so many died from disease, Indians, accident, war, childbirth, and starvation.

I love a good mystery so checking is right up my alley. I’m so thrilled 1940 will be out. I have many members of my family to look up.

If you haven’t seen “Who Do You Think You Are” be sure to watch it. It’s very interesting show.

I know my hobby is boring to many people, but I’m hoping my kids and grandkids will someday appreciate it.

Elizabeth Jarbo
Elizabeth Jarbo
1860
1860
1860
1860
Mary Harper
Mary Harper
Malinda
Malinda

April 13, 2012 Up Date on Mary Harper

This morning I was looking through census and birth records and was trying to find the Harper family not really knowing if their name was Harper or Hopper. I decided to check by using one of the children's first names. I choose Malinda because Melinda is a little different, popular back then but still unusual.

What did I come across? It was her birth record. Her father was William Harper and her mother was Mary Jarboe. So now the mystery of Elizabeth is solved, Mary Harper is her daughter and it is Elizabeth living next door to them in 1860. I need to now find Elizabeth's death record.

I thought this also solved the name Hopper or Harper and I now knew it was Harper, but I learned today the name was Hopper. I connected with a family member who knew for sure the name was Hopper. This is the reason you have to be sure to check different spellings. When you see it the same in two places usually will help you know the right spelling, but in this case, it didn't help.The older years will usually be the ones with the wrong spelling.

I have lost Mary and William Hopper and can't find them in 1870. I will keep looking.

Baby Book Family Tree
Baby Book Family Tree

“Hint” If you buying a baby book for someone buy one with a family tree.

Harold and Mary Ann
Harold and Mary Ann

Keep Up The Baby Book or Bible

My mother-in-law had nine kids, but she kept up all their baby books. She filled out a family tree in the books. You don’t know how much this family tree helped me in searching for my husband’s family. I made a copy of the family tree and have it hanging in my office.

Make a tree for a child before it's born and put in at least four generations. If you can talk to family now get the information from them. If your baby book doesn't have a tree in it there are many places you can download a tree. Here's a place you can get templates of family trees.

I know it's not the same nowadays you can always put all your genealogy on the computer. It's just the feel of the Bible or baby book having the information.

I'm also always surprised with some of the old names. Names I thought were modern names turned out to be very old names like.

Levi

Tabatha

Joyce

Melinda

Logan

Dawson

Cassandra

Lucinda

Amanda

Louisa

Source

Looking for a Mystery.

If you're looking for a mystery genealogy is the thing to do. Ancestry or FamilySearch is a good place to go. Find a grave is also a good place for locating where a family member is buried.

My grandfather told me the story of his baby girl and his baby granddaughter and how they both got sick at once. This day the little girls were in bed together and both very sick. He was sitting in the living room when a bird flew in the house. He got the bird out and the little girls both died right about the same time. I found the death record and they did die on the same day. They were Mary Ann and Joyce Lynn.

My families on both sides have always believed a bird in the house means death. An old superstition of death.

I also found I have a name in our family “Joyce” which goes all the way back to 1796 and my sister's name is Joyce. This name has been carried down through the years. I talked with other family members I never knew until I started doing genealogy. They also have Joyce in their part of the family.

Surprises I have found while doing genealogy;

I found my great-great-grandfather was one of the men involved in the Free State of Winston in Alabama.

I also found in a round-about-way I am related to Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln's relationship to me; nephew of wife of uncle of husband of my 3rd great grandmother. Really not too far off! Ha Ha. What it amounts to is my Great-Great-Great-Grandmother Peggy Basham married Henry Crume. Mary Lincoln was the aunt to Abraham Lincoln and Mary married a Crume. This is so far off but interesting when doing research.

Thomas Lincoln 1778

Father of Abraham

Capt. Abraham Lincoln

Father of Thomas

Mary Lincoln

Daughter of Capt. Abraham

Ralph Crume Jr.

Husband of Mary Lincoln

Ralph Crume Sr.

Father of Ralph Jr.

Charles Crume

Son of Ralph Sr.

Henry Crume

Son of Charles

Margaret "Peggy" Basham My Great-Great-Great Grandmother.

Wife of Henry

Cassandra E " Cassie" Cox My Great-Great-Grandmother.

Daughter of Margaret "Peggy"

1850

1850
1850

Finding Family

Have you been happy with what you have found in your genealogy search?

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Who Do You Think You Are

Like I said before "Who Do You Think You Are," is a very interesting show to watch. Watching other people find their roots. How I would like to have the money to go as far as they do on this show. This video is about Tim McGraw finding his roots.

Who Do You Think You Are will now be showing on TLC. Kelly Clarkson takes a look at her family history, on the first show on July 24, 2013, 9:00 pm Eastern.

Another good show to watch is Genealogy Roadshow on PBS.

A good place to start your search is on Ancestry.

Missouri list death certificates and lots of information are found on those.

Illinois list civil war soldiers and marriage records and much more, all free. Each state has it's own information, some states not so great with information.

I enjoy looking through Find A Grave and have found many lost family members there.

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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

VirginiaLynne, I hope someday the kids and grandkids will enjoy the stories. Thank you so much for stopping by.


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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

RTalloni, thank you for stopping by I appricate it. It is fun to do I think.


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DealForALiving 2 years ago from Earth

I had no idea about this, so I'm googling for more info~


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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

I came back to re-read. This is so interesting. I think you and I must be related, at least I hope so.

I really enjoyed this. Voted-up and posted of FB and shared on HP

Shyron.


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VirginiaLynne 2 years ago from United States

Thank you for this interesting information. I like the way you have told your own story in order to illustrate what other people might find. Don't worry about some of your relatives not caring. There will be people later on who do. Some of our family have done research and passed it on to those of us who are interested. I find that I can interest my children by just telling them a story I've found out now and then.


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RTalloni 2 years ago from the short journey

Genealogy would be interesting work for a lot of reasons. I admire people who begin it for their family and stick to it. You've inspired me to give it some more consideration.


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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

Shyron, I have a cousin she's my 2nd cousin 1x removed. Her great-grandmother was my grandmother's sister. She did her DNA on ancestry and hers came back with no Indian. My family insists that my grandmother had Indian in her. I have never believed that because with my research it's just not there. I would think with my cousin having no Indian in her DNA I would not have any in my DNA from my grandmother's side. I hate telling my cousins this news I think I will just keep it to myself. I tried telling them before there was no Indian.

It is very interesting when you get into it. Thanks so much for coming by glad you enjoyed the hub. Sharon


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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

Moonlake, I am back to re-read this, I have found new information on my family to hang on my tree.

Lawrence County Alabama genealogy and other diggins was very helpful to me.

I love researching my family history. I have this book marked so I will be back

Blessings, hope all is well.

Shyron


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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

rebeccamealey, Thanks so much for coming by. It's fun but can take hours looking for all those ancestors.


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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

Shyron E Shenko, Thank you I believe that too. His mass is getting smaller. He does so much around here I've been trying to take over some of the things he does and leaves me little time to jump on here. I manage to get on here and there. Makes me late answering comments and keeping up with all that goes on here.

As soon as I can get back on ancestry I will check on more cenus. Thanks so much for stopping by.


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rebeccamealey 2 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

It sounds like a fascinating hobby, one I would enjoy. Maybe I will get time to delve into Ancestry some time. Thanks for the brain tickle!


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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

The bible says, whatevery you ask in prayer, believing, it shall be done. I believe you hubby will be okay.

My gg grandma was born in 1830, so she was a little girl in the Trail of Tears.

I think you would find a lot of interesting items in the 1880 census.

Voting this up again and sharing


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moonlake 2 years ago from America Author

Shyron E Shenko, Thank you for stopping by. I have looked on the Dawes file trying to find my grandfather and grandmother I could not find either one. Family claims they're on there. W

Our lives have really changed but hubby is doing better we just have to keep praying for the best.


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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

Moonlake, I love this hub, I have gone back to the 1600s in my search and only 4 generations on my father's side. I don't think Native Americans kept track of people. On my mother's side, I did find my gg grandmother's Dawes roll number. You have no idea the rush I got from finding that. I found that through the website for the state and county where I was born.

Vote up ++++ and shared.

I hope you and your hubby are well. Shyron.


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

vespawoolf, Your welcome glad you enjoyed my hub. I appreicate you stopping by.


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vespawoolf 3 years ago from Peru, South America

I also find genealogy very interesting! I appreciate all the steps and photos you should here so we can get an idea of how much research is involved. I admit that I should spend more time on our family history. My grandmother has a family Bible that says we're related to Thomas Jefferson...in a roundabout way (like the way you're related to Lincoln). I didn't realize there was a genealogy roadshow. Sounds interesting. I'll look into it. Thank you.


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

DDE, Thank you and I always appreciate you coming by.


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DDE 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

The 1940 Census Record Is Out. Secrets Revealed After 72 Years. Genealogy, informative, and such a well researched hub. You always manage to surprise me with another great hub. Voted up!


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Nash, Thank you and thanks for stopping by.


Nash 3 years ago

This was great information thank you


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Peggy W, I hope they do. I know I didn't ask my grandmothers enough when they were alive that I should have ask. Thanks so much for stopping by.


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Peggy W 3 years ago from Houston, Texas

Hi again moonlake,

Your kids or grand-kids will someday appreciate the efforts that you have put into doing this research. Generally people of a "certain age"...(that is older)...care more about these things. So give them time! :)


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Deborah-Diane. I am always surprised at what I find in the census. Thanks so much for stopping by.


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Deborah-Diane 3 years ago from Orange County, California

Fascinating information. I was excited when I discovered the 1930 census. My mother never knew her father who died when she was only four. Her mother (my grandmother) would never talk about my mother's father. I researched them in the census and discovered that my grandmother and grandfather were separated and living in different residences at the time of the census. He was living with another woman. Of course, in the 1930s this would have been very embarrassing for my grandmother who was a young mother in her early 20's at the time. After he died, she never would talk about him. It is amazing how much you can learn from a census! After I found out this information, I wrote a distant aunt who confirmed what I had discovered. My mother was sad about what she learned, but she was glad to at least understand why her mother would never talk about her father. I think it brought her closure. Great Hub, and voted up!


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Paul Kuehn, It really is fun to do genealogy. I can stay on ancesty for hours looking for people. Thank you for the vote pin, share and tweeting.

I appreciate it.


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Paul Kuehn 3 years ago from Udorn City, Thailand

Moonlake,

This is an awesome hub! I recently received a few pictures with names of great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers from a cousin. After I quit full-time teaching in another year, I plan to do genealogy research. This hub really helps me a lot. Voted up and sharing with followers and on Facebook. Also Pinning and Tweeting.


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Peggy W, I hope someday our kids and grandkids will care about the genealogy I have done, right now they have no interest in it. Thanks so much for the vote and share.


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Peggy W 3 years ago from Houston, Texas

That is an interesting hobby and one in which hopefully your children and grandchildren will take an interest. I have some hand drawn charts of one side of our family...long before the Internet was available. I have added information and photos to an Ancestry.com site that my first cousin's daughter is interested in completing as much as possible. Voted UUI and will share.


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moonlake 3 years ago from America Author

Derdriu, I have looked through everything I can find from 1890 and the 1890 missing census is what I need. One great-grandfather I can't find where he died because of the missing census.

Thank you so much for stopping by and leaving a comment.


Derdriu 3 years ago

moonlake, The day that the 1940 census was released I was in the Main Library's Virginia ... when the site crashed because of so many hits!

It's sad about the 1890 census' loss ... and also about the states such as Delaware whose 1790 census went missing. It's now thought that the missing 1790 censuses never were submitted and went missing within their respective borders. But Delaware's reconstructed (from tax rolls) 1790 census is helpful.

Have other records between 1880 and 1900 helped you bridge the 1890 gap?

Respectfully, and with many thanks for sharing, Derdriu


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

sweetie1, Many people don't like census people to come around. They think they're to nosy. They also do it every 10 years here but only publish every 72 years. Thanks so much for stopping by.


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sweetie1 4 years ago from India

In India we take census every 10 years and we have hugh increase in population. Yes in our country the people doing it are motivated and usually leave lots of people in survey. I don't know about 1940s but even here it is still fraught with lots of problems.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

lrc7815, Glad you enjoyed it. There are some of my family members I can't find and I know it must be the spelling. I ask my Mom again yesterday where family members were in the 1940s and she said they were where I was looking. I'm going to have to go through again. It seems like it's taking ancestry a long time to get all the states listed so that we don't have to go through pape by page. Thank you so much for stopping by and leaving a comment.


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lrc7815 4 years ago from Central Virginia

Enjoyed your hub very much. I too am the family historian and have been digging up roots for over 30 years. I often run into road blocks but I never give up hope of finding that little nugget that I was missing.

I must say though, the 1940 Census is riddled with problems, at least it is using Ancestry.com searches. My great grandfather had 27 children and most of them should have been on the 1940 Census. I couldn't find a single one until I accidentally noticed some familiar first names. Our last name has been badly mis-spelled by the volunteer who transcribed our data for ancestry. The handwriting on most census documents is difficult to read. I know that. But I don't have a clue how our name could have been this badly recognized. So, look caefully when using Ancestry.com searches in this new census.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

ChristyWrites, You're Welcome, I'm glad you liked the hub. It is fun to search out the family. Thanks, so much for stopping by and leaving a comment.


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ChristyWrites 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

Genealogy is a topic I would like to explore one day. Learning more about my family past would be interesting. Thanks for sharing this information about your own family with us; neat!


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

tillsontitan, It's just not boring to me. I wish my Dad was still alive I think he would have really enjoyed doing this.

Thanks, so much for stopping by and for the vote.


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

While genealogy is boring to some it is interesting to others. The true story of your past! What could be more interesting. This was a great look into what you've been doing in your search and what you've found. Voted up and interesting.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Lynn, Me to that's what I should have put on my title Dancing with excitement. Thanks so much for stopping by.


Lynn S. Murphy 4 years ago

Loved your hub. I am dancing with excitement waiting for it come out.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Hyphenbird,

I think it is a great hobbie. I sit here some nights going through census page by page just looking to see what I might come across.

Thanks so much for stopping by.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

dahoglund,

Thanks for stopping by. Census can be revealing and if you check every page in that county it's very surprising what will show up.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Lesley,

I'm glad you got some information from this hub. Thanks so much for stopping by and for the vote and sharing.


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Hyphenbird 4 years ago from America-Broken But Still Beautiful

I also think it is fascinating. I love reading and researching geneologies. You have a great hobby. Don't let anyone tel lyou differently.


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dahoglund 4 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

My sister did some research on our family and I have used some of the information for story writing.Census information can be revealing.


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Movie Master 4 years ago from United Kingdom

Hi moonlake, your hobby isn't boring at all - it's fascinating!

Good luck with finding out more about your family. Thank you for the history of the Census, I have learnt a lot. Voted up and sharing, best wishes Lesley


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Stephanie Henkel,

I think it's going to be really fun to look up family on it.

Thanks for stopping by and for the vote.


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Stephanie Henkel 4 years ago from USA

Thanks for the heads-up on the release of the 1940 census! I found a lot of useful information in the 1920 census, and it will be fun to do some more digging into my family's roots.

Voted up, useful and interesting!


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

cloverleaffarm, I love genealogy too. I know sometimes some family members just disappear. I keep trying and have been surprised when suddenly there they are.

Thanks so much for stopping by and for the vote.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Bob, I know what you mean about the people not caring. My own kids could care less about what I have found. I do it for myself. I care and I wish I had cared when my grandparents were alive and could had got all the stories from them first hand. My grandpa use to sit in the garden with my husband and tell him about the old days but I never heard the stories and my husband can't remember them.

Thanks so much for stopping by. Nice that your related to Turner Tennyson. We're related to Abraham Lincoln in a round about way.


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cloverleaffarm 4 years ago from The Hamlet of Effingham

I love genealogy, and have been trying to find relatives on my mothers side from Ireland. They seem to have disappeared. Great hub, thanks for all the information. Voted up, useful and interesting.


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diogenes 4 years ago from UK and Mexico

I spent the longest time tracking my family down and got back about 350 years.

I sent copies to my surviving relatives, they barely said thanks.

Most people could care less about the past here: it's all money, money, money, mainly the lack of it.

They are only interested in Gran and Gramps for what they are going to leave them.

Not all, but a huge percentage of people could care less about their family tree. It may be more interesting to Americans, because after several generation, you have to go to foreign lands.

Bob

PS I did find one thing: Turner Tennyson, the poet's brother, was a great, great, etc., grandfather of mine and as I am something of a poet...maybe it's genetic like all else.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Millionaire Tips, I didn't realize this. I know I won't be able to wait and will start searching right away. I suppose they can't start the indexing until the day of. Thanks so much for stopping. Have a great evening.


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moonlake 4 years ago from America Author

Pamela Kinnaird W, I'm so glad you liked the hub. I will check FAMILYSEARCH and try what you suggested. I know many people thought that Elizabeth Jefferson Jarboe was Thomas Jefferson niece but I found that Thomas only had one niece and I think her name was Anna Scott.

Thanks for the vote and for stopping by and leaving a comment. Have a great evening.


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Millionaire Tips 4 years ago from USA

I am really excited about the new census as well, although I will probably wait until the index is done before doing the searching. I have heard there are at least three companies that are doing independent indexes, which will help with indexing errors and such.


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Pamela Kinnaird W 4 years ago from Maui and Arizona

I enjoyed your hub very much. Have you tried finding your Elizabeth Jefferson Jarboe at familysearch.org? A lot of people get frustrated with their new improvements to the site, but it's really very excellent. The thing to know is if you can't find your person by filling out the search boxes and then widening the search with more search boxes (e.g. birth, marriage or residence, etc) then you go up to the left top of the page and click on the symbol, the drawing of the TREE where it says FAMILYSEARCH. This takes you to other collections. Put in your criteria and then be sure you scroll to the bottom of the new screen to see the other information available besides all the listings that newly pop up. At the very least, you'll see other people's family trees that have been submitted with your person's name -- listing sources. And you might get even more.

Voted up and awesome.

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