More Money - Hubpages or Blogger ?

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   RandomSh!tposted 13 years ago

   I have a question.  For google adsence, I know with hubpages a person only recives a certain percentage from ad clicks, but with blogger you get 100% - So wouldn't it be more profitable posting on blogger vs hubpages ? especially if your traffic from blogger is about the same traffic as hubpages. Thank You

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      darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You'd think so. But from my personal experience it's HubPages by a long stretch.

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         RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         do you know why hubpages have been so sucessful for so many ? Is it because it is an interactive site ? From what I had learned hubbers will give you good view counts but rarely click ads

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            waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hubbers aren't really supposed to click ads on any hubbers accounts, it's really from external sites like through Google searches and things like that that you want to aim for the traffic from!

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               RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               well good thing i didnt click no ad's,..LOL

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There's the catch, Random.  You can get a lot of traffic to a Hub without really trying.  You have to work hard at promotion to get traffic to Blogger.
      
      So your question should be, "which can make more from Adsense, HP or Blogger, for the same amount of effort?"
      
      The answer to that question is HP hands down.

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         RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am taking this all into concideration,.. asking how much time I want to put into this.  Thanks for the feedback,...

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         TerryGlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with Marisa.
         
         If your getting good traffic from Blogger then try to direct some of that traffic to your Hubpages to see if you can get some form of balance with your Adsense earnings.
         
         You will quickly see the cost per click will not doubtedly be higher on Hubpages then it is on Blogger. That's been my experience to date.

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            RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Okay Thanks for that tip,..

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            shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            But be careful that you dont violate the terms and conditions (TOS) of Blogger *wink*

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      psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The is nothing to stop you from doing both.  My blogs make money from adsense, but it depends on your ability to build traffic and manage your own website.  Hubs are much easier to do and you have no real costs in terms of time or money.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

   Hubpages by a long shot

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      RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      that was a quick response,..you seem pretty definate about it.  I just wonder why ? perhaps I need to read more threads in the forums to understand. Thanks for answering

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   waynetposted 13 years ago

   Blogger is a good fit for adsense and affiliate promotions, but also Hubpages is too, although I do earn more from my blogs I just keep coming back to hubpages.....

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      RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I figured more could be made from blogger however I do like all the people here so far, everyone is so interactive

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         waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I do make more from blogger, but also with Wordpress too, the gradual shift though is becoming apparent with Hubpages that each page I write will make me money, some less and some more, but a mix of blogger and hubpages does do wonders for small time earning!

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            RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            perhaps i will try to do both, but was thinking about just doing one or the other.

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   Len Cannonposted 13 years ago

   Use both.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   I am making more from HubPages than Blogger

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      RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      hmmm i wonder if its because hubpages indexes higher than blogger,... I am just trying to see all the mechanical stuff related to this online money making stuff,..LOL

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         shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hubpages are in the top100 of sites in the USA.  When I look for articles on Google, it is more likely that hubpages articles rank higher on the same subject than other article sites.  ... just my experience

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   Mishaposted 13 years ago

   HP of course. Too long to explain why it cannot be other way around

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      RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Gottch ya !!! Okay hubpages it will be !! Thank You Everybody !!!

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      Aya Katzposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe write a hub about it, Misha.

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         RandomSh!tposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree,.. He's good,..LOL

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            shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Misha is one of the best!

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   Mishaposted 13 years ago

   LOL I can't finish the one on keyword research. When I complete it, and get a deserved rest after, I may think about that one, too

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   khmohsinposted 13 years ago

   Blogging is definitely the best choice, but hubpages will help you build traffic to your blog.
   I have created a hub on this topic, check it out. "How to get paid for your writings."

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   skyfireposted 13 years ago

   Don't put all the eggs in one basket.

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    Aya Katzposted 13 years ago

    What I've noticed is that when it comes to my hubs, most of the traffic is "organic" as it comes from search engines. And when I say search engines, I really mean mostly Google. But on my blogs, most of the traffic comes from referring sites. That means, I don't rank high enough for my keywords to get me traffic. There's some kind of artificial reason, not based on the intrinsic interest in my blog posts or hubs, that favors the hubs. Hubpages must have made a deal with the devil! Or, if you want a more technical explanation, wait for Misha's hub on the subject.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It's very simple, Aya.  HubPages as a whole has a lot of quality content, so Google regards the whole site as "reputable".  So your Hubs ride on those coat-tails.
       
       In contrast, Google exercises very few quality controls over their own Blogger site, so they know that the average blogger blog is a load of cr@p.  Therefore your blog has to earn its spurs on its own merits, with no help from the reputation of the larger site.

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    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    oh my hubpages are far more lucrative than my blogger blogs....

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

    HP is the huge winner over Blogger, when you compare time and effort.

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    maruthirpposted 13 years ago

    Obviously hubpages because you dont need to drive traffic in hubpages but in blogger you need to drive traffic.

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       psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       However if you do know how to attract traffic, Blogger will (and in my case *does*) make more.

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    I earn more from Hubpages than Blogger, for similar amounts of effort.  With Blogger you need to keep it constantly updated, or traffic will slow down over time.  With Hubpags you have thousands of other people updating too, so Google sees the site as forever fresh!

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    Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years ago

    My articles on my niche sites perform better than the same articles here. But HP is good for miscellaneous articles you don't have niche sites/blogs on.
    
    You said: " wouldn't it be more profitable posting on blogger vs hubpages ? especially if your traffic from blogger is about the same traffic as hubpages."
    In case traffic is the same, blogger is obviously a better option than HP.

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       thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       The problem is that Blogspot blogs drop after a few years, and rarely increases by itself. I noticed on my first encounter with Hubpages however that in my 6-8 month absense (I only initially came to make a few hubs for backlinks to other sites) they naturally grew organically in a way that my Hubs never did.  I have still noticed these hubs growing over time. The near unique website that Hubpages has created allows for consitantly evolving content which keeps your page in the Google rankings.
       
       This is of course just my own experience, and I have only 2 years under my belt at Hubpages, however I have been using blogger under several accounts since it first began (I was quite excited to find an easy to use 'blogging' platform after several years using rather awkwards systems like Greymatter.

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          Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Quite rite, but there are quite a few exceptions. I am constantly seeing a blogspot blog ranking number 1 in Google in a very high traffic niche. It ranks high for many long tailed keywords also and the owner of that blog is not doing much on it lately. However, I don't have a blogspot blog that ranks high and was talking about my own sites/blogs.

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    RandomSh!tposted 13 years ago

    ThNk you everyone who offered me advice,.. I have to deleate my account now though,.. guess my name breaks rules,..LOL. I'll be back though - just not sure what name I will use.

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    LeanManposted 13 years ago

    I think that HP wins for traffic at the moment, I started a blog at around the same time and I have promoted it far more than my HP account, but my hubs get far more traffic.. New to this so will continue with both and see what happens long term.. Nothing lost having both..

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       psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It depends on your blog topic.  hubs have reliable low level traffic, but a blog in the right niche will get more trafic under its own url.  It really depends on what the topic is.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Psycheskinner, I'd be willing to bet that if you started a blog and a Hub, both on the same niche and both at the same time, you'd still get traffic to the Hub a lot faster.
          
          That's certainly been my experience.

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             Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             That's been my experience too.

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             Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Marisa, you are under estimating the power of niche blogs, especially the ones you buy a domain name and hosting for. You can get niche blogs ranked high with a little effort.

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                Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Yes but you can get traffic to Hubs with NO effort.
                
                And for a newbie who has no idea how to promote, there is a huge  effort in learning how to promote in the first place.  And let's not even think about getting hosting and setting up their blog!
                
                Experienced people forget how long it took them to find their way through the maze!

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                   shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I agree... everything has already been taken care of by the Hubpages team to give good content a boost before actually doing anything. All components have already been inbuilt included covering out backside in terms of TOS for adsense.
                   
                   Ignorants is 9 tenths of the law but there is never an excuse for it!  Condemnation comes hard, quick and fast despite nievity. *wink*

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                   Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   But once you have learnt this stuff, blogs is a good option!

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                      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Content is king... keep the quality!

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                         Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         But you need a good amount of army to keep the king alive.

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                            shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Which is why hubpages are a great place to start.  News capsules etc help.  Blogs are good as a continuous update - a refresh - but you have to keep on top of this - keeping content fresh.  This is not a one person job, as you said... you need an army!

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                               Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Shaz, I am not against HP at all. In fact I love this place and no doubt it is a great place to generate a second income.
                               
                               I am talking about niche blogs. Have you ever had them?

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                                  shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                  Err.. I am not going down the blog path - it is great if you know what you are doing! *wink*

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             psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I have, and I didn't.  Blogger won.
             
             Like I said, it depends on the topic but for me, it is Blogger by a mile.
             
             Your experience can differ, but my experience is still my experience.

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    shazwellynposted 13 years ago

    Now if you are an expert like Sunforged - http://hubpages.com/profile/sunforged - then you will not go far wrong to successful internet marketing.  He is a highly recommended Guru to follow and helpful too!

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       LarasMamaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hubpages anyday. I've got my own blogger site but it hardly compares to hubpages. With HP I can write on ANY topic (not just the one on my site) and since HP has a PR6 (as opposed to my sites hard worked PR2), pages I make here are ranked much higher in google, meaning more traffic even when I don't backlink on 90% of my hubs.
       
       So basically - all I do is write, instead of spending tons of time on promotion and write 20% of the time.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

    Blogger just killed 15 of my blogs for spam. I'm in good company from what I've heard. So there's that to consider when you're working on a freebie model run by google.
    
    Honestly I've been watching my personal website traffic and HP traffic carefully since the infamous MayDay update and the Hub Traffic has bee much more stable.
    
    Ultimately I think that it takes both for a dependable revenue stream.

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       shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Nelle... this is an example to the doubters.  See, Im not so stupid!... well maybe I am? lol
       
       Anyway, as a word of warning... dont attempt to get them blogs reinstated... they get examined by human eyes.  I have tried to give it a go, thinking it would be automated but I had a message stating this.
       
       Sorry to hear Blogger has done this - did all other Google accounts get disabled too?... (adsense, googlemail etc)

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          psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Well, Blogger has TOS just as Hubpages does.  So you have to abide by them.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

    Shaz, It wasn't a big deal to me - I was curious to see how they performed. Mostly not well at all. I didn't even count them in my personal website list.
    
    My blogger sites were no different than many others, who are still active. I'm not going to try to get them reinstated, it's not worth it to me.

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       shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It is all trial and error, isnt it Nelle?!  *love your style!*

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    lakeerieartistsposted 13 years ago

    I have several Google blogs, but had one closed for spam.  I actually did ask to have it reinstated, but never heard back.  Not sure why they didn't like it.  I have not had major problems with blogger, but it is not my preferred blogging system.

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       Aya Katzposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       How do they define spam?

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          Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          One definition is if all your outgoing links point to the same site. I had one disabled for spam, years ago, because I created a blog to promote my Helium articles.
          
          However, I know some people who have blogs promoting their Hubs which haven't been marked as spam, so it may all come down to how you do it.

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       shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What is your preferred blogging system?
       
       @ Marisa.... I definately think it is how you do it!

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          Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Shaz, did you ever work out what the secret is??

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    Research Analystposted 13 years ago

    If you are trying to compare blogger with hubpages that is like comparing oranges to apples, they are not even in the same league. First of all hubpages is a community social plateform that allows us to submit mini sites for content and revenue sharing purposes, so the amount of traffic is going to be much higher no matter what your topic is about.
    
    Blogger on the other hand is a free blog platform that requires you to write content that is going to need to be promoted either by joining a blog community or using such things as social bookmarks, article directories, forums or ppc, it just will take much more work to get targeted traffic.
    
    Also if you are trying to make money, traffic alone is not the answer you need conversion, you will have to have some type of paid ad system integrated into your blogger blogs such as adsense, kontera, chikita, amazon or the like, whereas hubpages provides all that for you.
    
    So you should be asking what other blog platforms can I use to earn in conjunction with hubpages? and the answer to that is a self-hosted blog, such as wordpress or just build your own niche websites with specific domain names for each topic you want to cover.

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