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   mymagicviewposted 13 years ago

   Today I saw my hubs who got 0 pageviews in last 30 days. I searched for the 'url' of these hubs in Google Search Engine, but these hubs are not included in search engine!
   
   I am worried because these hubs are old. For example, my hub 'Manifesting Wealth' published on 9 oct 2009. And this is not a single example! My so many non performing hubs are not included in a search engine.
   
   What can I do in this situation!? Is I have to include my hubs manually in Google Search Engine!? But then I afraid they will not get indexed properly. (because had a bad experience with indexing my website.)Is this normal!? Also I saw one of my hub 'Email Hosting' was in and out of search engine time to time.
   
   I am so confused! What is happening? because my so many performing hubs are permanently included in a search engine. Then what's the problem with these non performing hubs? And how I can overcome this problem?
   
   Thanks!

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   Rafiniposted 13 years ago

   hhmm, the only thing I can think of is....do you have backlinks for your hubs?

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      mymagicviewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know if they had! Because I never do backlinking, but if someone did, maybe... but then what with performing hubs? I never backlinked them too...

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         Rafiniposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I would think without backlinks the performing hubs performed well due to keywords which were then searched for in Google.

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Try linking to your page from some do follow sites.
         
         Google does not crawl nofollow links, so it is posisble that google is not picking up your hubs (Rare since hubpages has a lot of natural interlinking).

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            DenverPhotographyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Google does crawl nofollow links!  What happens is page rank is not passed through no follow links.  And even some SEO experts believe that there is a little page rank passed through nofollow links currently, just not the level of dofollow links.
            
            Search engines work on backlinks.  For example, there is no way of submitting your site ask.com.  So if you want Jeeves on ask.com to discover it, you need to be well networked on the internet.  Because Ask.com follows the links it already knows about and if it sees your link on one of those pages, it will follow it and discover your site or page.  Most major search engines work the same way.  Although you can submit to other search engines, if you don't have at least a couple of links pointed to each page it starts to look spammy.
            
            For the purpose of page discovery and getting indexed at all both a dofollow and a nofollow link would work for this purpose.

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            Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I will be very interested in learning the actual truth about whether Google crawls the no follow links or not. I value your opinion on the issue, since you have your own do follow article directory.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Maybe you could benefit from these two hubs?
   
   Sunforged wrote them both.
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Get-Website-Tra … -earn-from
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Writing-for-mon … nt-revenue
   
   Good luck.

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   TVTopTenposted 13 years ago

   I agree with everyone else. If you really want these sites cached then you will have to get some links out to them. I'd start with some social media sites like twitter, delicious...etc.
   
   By the way, just because a link is "no-follow" it doesn't mean its "no-crawl" Google bots still crawl these links, they just don't pass on page rank.
   
   I find it strange though because of all the natural interlinking of hupages...but getting a few links to these pages is worth a shot.
   
   Have you tried linking to these from other hubs of yours that are relevant and that are indexed?

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      thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      We have been through this on another post, Google specifically states that the Google spiders completely ignore nofollow links, they do not pass on pagerank and they do not get crawled.
      
      Bing is the same.  Yahoo does not count the value of the link, but it does crawl it.

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         sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         How does Google handle nofollowed links?
         
         We don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links. Essentially, using nofollow causes us to drop the target links from our overall graph of the web. However, the target pages may still appear in our index if other sites link to them without using nofollow, or if the URLs are submitted to Google in a Sitemap.
         
         http://www.google.com/support/webmaster … swer=96569
         
         *edit*
         I see Lrohner posted the exact blurb!

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      mymagicviewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes! I linked my all 'law of attraction' hubs to each other.

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   Susana Sposted 13 years ago

   You could try updating the hubs with more text, extending the title and maybe adding video or two. Also make sure your keyphrases are throughout the hub in the text and sub headings. Then once your hubs are updated ping them and get a few backlinks.
   
   I'm guessing that "email hosting" and "manifesting wealth" will have a lot of competition. I'd check out the first few google results for those terms and then look in yahoo site explorer to see how many backlinks they have. This will give you an idea of how many backlinks you need to get on the first page.

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      mymagicviewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for helping me! Now I will try to enrich my non performing hubs with more content.

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   andromidaposted 13 years ago

   Since you are not finding your hub by a url search, i guess it has been de-indexed for some reason, it will come back soon.Recently I am finding a few of my new hubs are not visible by url search, yet getting organic traffic.

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      mymagicviewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes! I am facing this same problem with my new hub, but I am not worried about that, as it's recently published.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   Try the Social Bookmarking Toolbar, it is my favorite

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   The crawling aspect of nofollow links was discussed between either myself and Darkside/Sunforged (Can't remember which), in it I pulled up all of the relevant information from the three major search engines directly from their own websites.
   
   This information showed clearly that Google and Microsoft did not crawl no-follow links and had no intention to do so in the future.
   
   Only Yahoo crawled no-follow links, but did not use them for search engine ranking purposes.
   
   I am not sure about Ask Jeeves, I didn't research that one as the traffic volume is simply too low.
   
   If you don't believe this, or don't want to believe this, all the information is on the websites of these major search engines, it just takes a bit of digging.
   
   The fact that Google does not crawl no-follow links also suggests to me that the rumour of No follow links passing on a page rank juice is also a myth, and I think a misunderstanding which has been replicated by self professed SEO experts who saw a post with a title similar to that, and did not extrapolate the fact that no-follow links can sometimes bring about organic dofollow links. Not only that but there have been indication that website popularity (traffic) have an impact on serps to a small degree as well. Some people report having websites have a large boost in traffic from another website, and then see their Google rankings rise.
   
   Of course, you can always just keep creating no-follow links, it means less competition for me

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      lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So glad you posted that. Here's the link. I had this bookmarked since I wind up having this discussion quite frequently.
      
      "In general, we don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links. Essentially, using nofollow causes us to drop the target links from our overall graph of the web. However, the target pages may still appear in our index if other sites link to them without using nofollow, or if the URLs are submitted to Google in a Sitemap. Also, it's important to note that other search engines may handle nofollow in slightly different ways."
      
      http://www.google.com/support/webmaster … swer=96569

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         Peter Hogganposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         To me that says Google ignores nofollow links. The page might still get indexed if other pages link to it or a sitemap is submited.

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I might have to keep that link on hand too!
         
         Yes a site will still be indexed if another site links to it with a dofollow link, or it is submitted via a sitemap.
         
         having a nofollow link from an external source does not mean your site will not be indexed, it merely means it will not be indexed via the google bot crawling that particular link.

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   Also what are the topics of the Hub?
   
   Is it possible other websites have increased their SEO efforts and knocked your Hubs down the rankings?
   
   Or is it possible that people simply are nto searching for your keywords any more?
   
   Some of my hubs are seasonal, and see a tenfold increase in traffic at certain times of the year.

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      mymagicviewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am not expecting my hub on the top of the search engine rankings, but I just want to see my hub in a search engine! I don't think there is any problem with keywords or other sites.
      
      You helped me a lot with nofollow and dofollow links. Thanks!

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