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   Reality Bytesposted 13 years ago

   If your going to reply to someone's thread why be sarcastic?  If the thread is not interesting, move on.  Why do some hubbers think that other hubbers come to the forums to be lectured too.
   Maybe some hubbers think that they are are Better then others.
   
   Maybe some hubbers do not even really write hubs but just hang out to spread sarcasm?

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, we do.
      
      :-)

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      TamCorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      
      I agree--a little tact can go a long way...I don't know why some people can't see that. 
      
      And please--enough of the saying that this is the internet, and not real...whose fingers are working these keyboards and typing out the sarcastic responses??? 

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   Hauntyposted 13 years ago

   Some people have sarcasm as the primary means of making their case. Criticism must be their way of relieving some sort of internal pressure. I hope this comment does not count as a personal attack, but this is really very annoying.

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      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Am I annoying?  What personal attack?

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         Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not you, but sarcastic people.

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            Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            OK,    I have no intention to offend
            
            
            I cannot get past the first condescending remark that is made. 
             
            
            "What is wrong with you"
            
            "just google it"
            
            
            Remarks like that make me disregard what follows. 
            
            Insert smiley here  :smug:

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      Rafiniposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think criticism and sarcasm go hand in hand.  I'm very critical but sarcasm is only found if and when I'm extremely angry - when I don't really care if the analytical mind and critical side of me coincide or not.

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   timorousposted 13 years ago

   Sarcasm has its' place.  Sometimes a thread is just being taken way more seriously than it ought to.  Or if someone makes a comment that is just plain dumb.
   
   This is where sarcasm comes in to save the day
   
   Still..one must be discreet and choose the right interjection.

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   Ben Evansposted 13 years ago

   Sarcasm is used often when another person wants to get the upper hand in a discussion.  Most don't understand how to use it but to be just down right nasty and mean.  When people do that it doesn't make them look smart.
   
   I tend to think people just are getting angry and not trying to discuss.  There are people who are just downright mean.  Sarcasm is a way to put down another person.  It can at time be an effective means of communication when it is directed away from a person and outside the discussion.  There are very few who can do this in a manner to not be mean.

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   mega1posted 13 years ago

   I will never again use sarcasm on HP.  I promise.  Never.  Really, never.

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   PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago

   I believe he (she?) is talking about my reply in this thread.  He/she can correct me if I'm wrong:
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/50663#post1161595
   
   Although, in fairness, I did not say "What is wrong with you?"
   
   

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      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      It is not just your reply in my thread.  I spend a lot of time alone and on google.  Some of the things I write about require quite a bit of research.  Whether or not you appreciate my hubs is irrelevant. There is a lot of research within them.  I do spend most of my time here alone with HP and google.
      
      Occasionally I enter the forums (usually through the questions on my hub) to interact with other human beings.  It was not you or your post that started this thread it was me and how I felt.  I do not wish to argue with anyone I do not need that,  I do not wish to offend anyone that is not my purpose.
      
      I have truly enjoyed my time at Hubpages,  I have learned an enormous amount of things while I have been here.  Hubpages has been one of the most proud achievements within my life at this moment. Everyone please have an awesome weekend and I wish the best to each and every one of you. 
      
      PCunix you are far more superior to me.  Does that make you feel better?

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am not offended.  I enjoy sparring in the forums and it takes a lot more than that to get my dander up.  I just found it amusing that you asked about a "rumor" and phrased it in a way that was obviously critical of the President, even though the facts were easy to find.
         
         You have an awesome weekend, too. 

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            mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I am not being sarcastic when I say I like you a lot better as a human, than as a cat.  This coming from a kitty may sound sarcastic, but no.  I am not clever enough today to be sarcastic!
            
            Also, Reality, I will pass on to you the advice that was given to me when I first entered the forums:  don't take the things people say very personally - unless someone is definitely talking just to you and being mean.  Then, don't get mad, get even!  there is a lot of give and take here - and is what makes it all so interesting and addictive I believe.

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               Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               
               I do not wish to "get even".  I have the feeling that I am a pariah in these forums and I have accepted my place in life.  So be it.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  See, I think if you were to browse through the threads in the political forums you would find that you are not the only person who has been at the receiving end of sarcasm and ridicule.  It happens to all of us who participate, which means you are not a pariah unless you decide to feel like one.  I acknowledged that I used sarcasm to respond to your post; but you have not yet taken responsibility for the original tone and implications of your post.  Now, you are playing the victim.
                  
                  All of that is fine and dandy.  You are free to feel and do as you wish, of course. Just don't be surprised if not everyone joins you in believing you've been victimized.

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                     Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     I understand that you have defined my tone and implication.
                     
                     I was not implying anything.  I was working on a hub when I heard that the POTUS was considering meeting directly with the leader of Iran.
                     
                     I was wondering if anyone else had heard of the rumor.  I now see that I made a mistake.  I am not a victim nor do I wish to be perceived of as a victim.  I do not oppose the president but I can see how it appeared that way.
                     
                     In the future I will refrain from opening any threads.  I will just remain in isolation with my hubs and my google.  I may comment on a thread but I will not interfere with the intellectual conversations that are beyond my intelligence.

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                        PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Look, let's just get over it.  It's not that big of a deal.  If you want to refrain from posting on threads, that's your choice, but I don't see any need for such a reaction.
                        
                        Bygones?

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                        mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        that was pretty good sarcasm there!

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                  mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  ok then.  what's a pariah?  you mean an outsider?  I accept you completely!  does that ruin your score?  Haha  joke joke joke!
                  
                    don't you hate that?  when people insult you and then say joke joke joke?  I hate that.  But I'm trying not to hate.  seriously.  trying.

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               Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               It's the heat.

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                  mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  but. but, it's not hot here?     

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               PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Are you calling me "catty," Mega?  How dare you!?    
               
               Like I said in another thread, I am such a mean girl.
               
               P.S.  In case you don't know me well enough, I am not offended; I was just joking.

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                  mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  no, you are not catty.  definitely not.  that's why I said I liked your real pic - or at least I think that's the real you - the pretty girl, better.  Some of us have to masquerade as kittens in order not to scare off friends.  You don't!  and that is not sarcasm.  it's trufe

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                     PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I wish I were as pretty as my kitty, but she has me beat. 
                     
                     
                     
                     See, I am actually human.

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                        mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        oh.  ok then.
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        just kidding! 

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   alternate poetposted 13 years ago

   I hate to be sarcastic - but - some of the drivelling babble that gets posted is so inane and point-blank stupid that sarcasm is the only valid response.
   
   What with castles in heaven spoken about, like, seriously, and with detailed descriptions etc, people screaming because Obama has TWO LEGS and goddamnit he WALKS as well so lets impeach him !!   what else is left other than sarcasm ??  you would want me to actually discuss these things with these strange people

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This.

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   Shadesbreathposted 13 years ago

   "What's wrong with you?" and "Just Google it" aren't really sarcasm in my book.  Those comments, depending on context obviously, might come off as rude though. 
   
   Some people just are rude, however, so whether they are doing it sarcastically or directly, that doesn't change the nature of human converstations.   
   
   That said, since you can't control whether or not they "just move on" rather than leave annoying remarks, you can control how you perceive those remarks.  Just ignore people who aren't being civil, or that you feel aren't being civil regardless of their intent.  Easier to control what you can control than what you can't.

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      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Good advice, much appreciated.

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   Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

   i am too sweet to ever use sarcasm

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      mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      reeeeeeeaaaaaallllllly!  Oh, suuuuuure.  I knew that!

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      klarawieckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Greek, you have your moments!

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    Rafiniposted 13 years ago

    Wow, don't know what happened to bring this thread, but my take on sarcasm is this:
    
    Sarcasm is a thin disguise for anger.

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       Shadesbreathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It often does provide a civil, or seemingly-civil voice to outrage.  But it is also a tactical rhetorical option that can be effective in pointing out when an idea or concept (or person) has become so obstinantly entrenched in a bad policy or belief set that the only way to illuminate how illogical the grounds behind that idea or concept are is to do so with satire.  It's basically a tool to be used when reason and logic aren't working, a tipping upside down of the expected can sometimes get attention and results where rational arguments could not.

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          Rafiniposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          hehehe  I've noticed this, but usually it's coming from the person who's losing the argument which, to me, means they're attempting to disguise their anger - or not.

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       mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I always interpret it as condescension and superiority - like older sisters - the way they say things like "you're really gonna wear THAT?"  and "sure, I really WANT to take you with me on my date!"  or "where did you GET that hairdo?"

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Yeah, what Shades said!

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    mega1posted 13 years ago

    What about "BITE ME!"  is that considered sarcasm?  or am I getting off the track?

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    Sometimes you just catch people in a bad mood. When I have had a bad day I say something along the lines of 'This information is in the FAQ' Not sarcastic, not particularly insulting, but not really as much help as I could have given either.

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    selrachposted 13 years ago

    Time to bring out the video again.
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Mc7bTG3-c

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       Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I should join that, I can be quite sarky at times.

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       EmpressFelicityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I really, really love this video...

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    All I can say is don't take what people say in a forum too personally.

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    qwarkposted 13 years ago

    I think there are times when sarcasm is appropriate. Don't you?
    Alt.Poet has it right.

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