Newbies - Fan mail: Don't do this

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   Pcunixposted 13 years ago

   This morning I had Fan mail that started out with
   
   hey your hubs are nice. I enjoyed reading them. I am new to hubpages please help me grow
   
   and then listed5 of their hubs.
   
   That's going to be instantly denied and deleted by me and probably everyone else here unless they are also a clueless newbie.
   
   It's so blatant I'm not even going to look at your hubs. 
   
   Don't do this.

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      Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree 100%.  I also, and don't tell anyone, only approve fan mail that 'suits' what I want to show on my profile page.  So if it says "you are brilliantly funny" then that's OK.  But if it says "I read your hub and it was interesting" then I don't bother with it.
      
      It's all part of sales and image really.  Bit harsh I suppose.

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         Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hard-nosed capitalist!

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            Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            lol - fair point.  btw - I kept yours...

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               Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The check's in the mail, right?
               
               Wow. I can't believe I wrote that. Very gushing, and I rarely ever bother following anyone let alone writing them fan mail.
               
               Apparently I have a strong appreciation for nonsense! I think it was your cat hub which got me.

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                  Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, not quite gushing enough.  The "quite intelligent" remark irritates me every time I see it, but I've left it on there.
                  
                  Quite intelligent. Suppose I should be flattered.
                  
                  On the subject of the thread - I just had the same fan mail that Pcunix got!  The fanner's not having a great morning.

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      WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Which type of fan club are you trying to draw and is it only your fans who make you money?

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         Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think you have no clue what we are talking about..

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            WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ok clueless..... I hope this unruly fan didn't click on any ads of yours. Did you send a letter to Google?

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               Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I can't help but wonder if your evident anger is caused by your activities being similar?
               
               Would you like to explain what is behind this?

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      barbergirl28posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have never gotten this.. than again maybe it is because I am considered a newbie myself. And hopefully by posting this forum, whoever is doing it, gets the message loud and clear!

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      darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I hate that and them asking or even telling me to become their fan.
      
      DENIED.
      
      Here's a recent one:
      
      Hi! I already follow you, it would be really nice if you please follow me back and help me grow like you. Thank You :-)
      
      DENIED.

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      Lily Roseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I know who you're talking about - he did the same to me.  I went to his profile and saw that those 5 hubs were ALL of his hubs.  While looking, I noticed that he wrote (or should I say published!) a hub about how to make money with Google AdSense...
      
      ....so, I perused that hub and then left a nice comment letting him know that what he did in his fan mail to me is not cool and that I don't know why he's asking for help from other hubbers when he's already got it figured out if he's writing hubs about Google AdSense! 
      
      Of course, as I expected, he deleted my comment, but I know I got through to him because he then emailed me (via HP) to say that in reading the advice of the best hubbers, his understanding was that you were supposed to do what he did with the fan mail and links - whatever!  DELETE!

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   This is the reason I have the following written in bold on my profile:
   
   Please note that any fan mail or comments you leave for me that request mutual reciprocation will be deleted, as I consider this very rude and bad etiquette.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I like that.  I just stole it

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         WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'll be emailing you a DMCA shortly. LoL

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hah. I ran it through a spinner.
            
            Oddly, it came out just the same, though.  Oh well.

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               WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               What, there's no synonym for mutual?

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                  Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah, it suggested "bilateral" the first time, and "requited" the second.  Too fancy-pants for me, so I just stole it outright.

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   wormdoposted 13 years ago

   Yeah, that's incredibly rude. Kind of spoils the compliment they start off with.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I would image the "compliment" is nothing of the sort, because they likely didn't read a single hub!

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         Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         huh? When did you start writing Hubs?

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Just a couple of days ago.  I thought it might be a good idea after being here almost 9 months and writing nothing, so over the weekend I dashed off 284 hubs.
            
            I'll do another one today, though I have to say I'm really worn out.

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               Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               

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   Bard of Elyposted 13 years ago

   I simply add them all!

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   Pandoras Boxposted 13 years ago

   79!!! Holy Toledo! I guess they expect people to actually write stuff. Huh. Better break out the old spinner.

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   Bard of Elyposted 13 years ago

   Just changed my mind about this! No sooner that I posted that I add them all than I had one of the spammy "help me grow" mails with a list of 5 hubs! Well, that got denied promptly! I don't mind fanmail that doesn't say much but I don't want spam!

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Same person, I bet..

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   Will Apseposted 13 years ago

   Most of the stuff about community in Hubpages is also good SEO. Fanning, commenting, questions etc, etc, etc. It all ties the site together internally and makes it more appealing to Google.
   
   You might get proprietorial about what appears on your profile page but it all helps the greater good- in other words we all make a little more money.
   
   Emails like this are a very minor irritation. And you can do anything you like with them.
   
   Or send them yourself.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think you misunderstand.
      
      It's not as much about it appearing - its the implication of reciprocal favors that annoys us.

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         Will Apseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There really is no obligation. Truly. It's not like your sister's husband asked to borrow the lawn mower. Reciprocal favours are for people who matter to you.

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It's not a matter of obligation.
            
            It's a matter of them having the cheek to ask!

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   habeeposted 13 years ago

   I get emails all the time that say something like, "I see you're an English teacher, and you write great hubs. Would you mind reading all my hubs and correcting all my mistakes?"
   
   Um, yeah, I would mind! I don't mind helping someone out, but that's just too much. The emails I get that say, "I really admire your writing skills. If you get a chance, would you take a look at ONE of my hubs and provide some feedback?" are more inline with what I'm willing to do. After all, there are only so many hours in a day. If I did what everyone asked me to do, I'd have absolutely no time to write my own hubs or to write articles for pay. Hope you guys don't think I'm a b**ch! lol

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      barbergirl28posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Darn and I was just about to ask if you could go read all my hubs and correct my mistakes... lol... Although I can definately see how that would be irritating!

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      JustMikeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      dont get upset at them for that habee just let them know that your normal rate for that is 10 dollars a hub in your paypal account and find out when they would like you to start.

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   recommend1posted 13 years ago

   In any identity here I never reciprocate without looking at a sample and then only follow if I like the stuff.  I also follow people because I like their stuff, never just because.

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      SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ...but what if i like bears......i did check to see whether or not there was any bamboo....

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         recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Bear lovers are just followed by default

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    WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

    I was replying because it seems every couple of weeks you come up with an unruly fan. I think you just draw a funny crowd.  Never mind. Hope your dey is wonderful.

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       People tend to follow people with high hubber scores and a good number of existing followers. I suspect that they wrongly assume that if we follow them back, that would increase their scores.
       
       That's why we draw "funny" people.

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          WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Oh Thanks.... Do you mean funny haha or funny funny ""? I didn't realize following people increased hubber score Thanks Pcunix!!

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             Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I said WRONGLY assume.

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    arthurchappellposted 13 years ago

    Worth checking out a page for anyone writing a short patronizing pithy line like 'love your hubs' as you may find they've sent it to fifty other Hubbers too, as they mainly hope everyone will then be their hub friend and support their karma / ads in turn. They probably spent about 5 seconds on your hub and never read so much as the title.

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       recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Exactly - I don't even look at anyone who fanmails me - unless they leave a message on one of my hubs

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    WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

    Hey barbergirl28 I'm gonna follow you because you have some interesting titles for your hubs that I want to read further.
    What a strange thread.

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That is often the way I find people. They say something interesting in a forum post, so I check them out.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

    I check out profiles of people who follow me or far less frequently fan me.  Most of the time that's all I do. It's enough to form an opinion.  A few times I look deeper at a hub or two.  And on very rare occasions I might decide that I could read future hubs of theirs and I will follow.
    
    That's it.
    
    That's my ploy to win the popular hubber of the year award.
    
    In my defence I will say that those few I follow - I occasionally read their hubs, sometimes comment, and I always check the daily email.

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    Amanda Severnposted 13 years ago

    I just got fanned by the guy with the list of 5 hubs which he'd like me to read. Like Bard of Ely, I generally just accept unsolicited fanmail. It doesn't mean that I will be reciprocating any time soon. On this occassion, however, I'm following the crowd, and deleting the fanmail. It's just a bit too cheeky to expect people to check out your hubs without being part of the community first.

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       Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       However, you've managed to give link juice to the SPAM provided in the fanmail you receive. It's not a good practice.

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          WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          No follow links don't meet the criteria to be considered "link juice".
          However you are correct about declining SPAM

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             Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Internal based links still provide juice.

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    WryLiltposted 13 years ago

    I'm quite insulted. What, I'm not good enough to have the five hubber send me fan mail? Everyone else seems to be getting it but me!

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I think you should demand that he or she do so at once. You are quite right, it is a snub and is possibly actionable.

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    dianebowlingposted 13 years ago

    No one has sent me any fan mail (except for the "welcome to Hubpages). I'm feeling left out.
    (This is in no way a plea for attention)
    

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Two weeks.. It will come.

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    Diane,  I'll write you some fan mail and then you can write me some fan mail so we won't feel so left out, OK?  Bard, here it was I thought you just liked me...Dang!
    
    And I also have been snubbed by the masked spammer...where, oh where, did I go wrong???

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    2besureposted 13 years ago

    I just got fan mail with five links in it.  I guess this little guy is getting around.  I didn't approve it, but did not delete it.  I guess I will delete and send a polite private note on etiquette  here.

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       Lily Roseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, but once you do that he has your direct email address!  That's why I left a comment on one of his hubs.

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          2besureposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, boy!

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    Martyv25posted 13 years ago

    I got some fan mail like this some time ago now, I accepted it at the time as I was and still am pretty new to this. The more and more I read hubs though the more the image of that dairy product keeps appearing with the same copy and pasted message they posted to me. I'm sure you know who I mean right.

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