Paul and the Church: they must be the Anti-Christ

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   Mark 12:29-30 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 
   
   Jesus believed in ONE-TRUE-GOD as is evident from the above verses; yet Paul and the Church invented Trinity; they must be Anti-Christ then.

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      

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      aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      HA HA HA HA!

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Are you that old?

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      Golfgalposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus, the son of God is the Holy Spirit.  The trinity began in this realm at the surrection, when the spirit of the risen Lord returned. That is how I understand it. The trinity is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   Jesus crosses over between the living and spirit world.

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Jesus and Moses did not believe in the Trinity:
         
         Mark 12:29-30 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 
         
         Jesus believed in ONE-TRUE-GOD as is evident from the above verses; yet Paul and the Church invented Trinity; they are good candidates for the Anti-Christ .

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            aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Jesus is speaking about the Holy Spirit;
            John 16:7 - Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
            About the Father;
            John 5:36 - But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
            John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
            Luke 11:13 - If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
            
            THREE mentioned.

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               paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Please don't feel shy to mention connected verses of at least 10 to 15 verses to make up your point from the context of Bible.
               
               Anybody please

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                  aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What 15 are you talking about.
                  If you know them, do tell.

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                     aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I see you didn't answer me. (as usual)!

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                     paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Please don't feel shy to mention connected verses of at least 10 to 15 to make up your point from the context of Bible.
                     
                     [21] And the second took her, and died: and neither did he leave any issue. And the third in like manner. [22] And the seven all took her in like manner; and did not leave issue. Last of all the woman also died. [23] In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise again, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. [24] And Jesus answering, saith to them: Do ye not therefore err, because you know not the scriptures, nor the power of God? [25] For when they shall rise again from the dead, they shall neither marry, nor be married, but are as the angels in heaven.
                     
                     [26] And as concerning the dead that they rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spoke to him, saying: I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? [27] He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err. [28] And there came one of the scribes that had heard them reasoning together, and seeing that he had answered them well, asked him which was the first commandment of all. [29] And Jesus answered him: The first commandment of all is, Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy God is one God. [30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God, with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength. This is the first commandment.
                     
                     [31] And the second is like to it: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is no other commandment greater than these. [32] And the scribe said to him: Well, Master, thou hast said in truth, that there is one God, and there is no other besides him. [33] And that he should be loved with the whole heart, and with the whole understanding, and with the whole soul, and with the whole strength; and to love one's neighbour as one's self, is a greater thing than all holocausts and sacrifices. [34] And Jesus seeing that he had answered wisely, said to him: Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question. [35] And Jesus answering, said, teaching in the temple: How do the scribes say, that Christ is the son of David?
                     
                     from Mark Chapter 12
                     
                     Jesus mentions no trinity; like Moses he mentions of one true God.

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               DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So you believe in three gods...The Father (one), The son (two), The holy spirit (three). As you said, Three are mentioned...I seen nothing in what was posted that says "and the Three are one". Or, that the father is the son and the holy spirit or any other combination. So, I could understand that being a Tribunal...Not a Trinity...In todays world, anyone with multiple persona's is considered crazy and needs medical help.
               
               Of course 1 Tim 2:5 says:
               "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
               
               This sounds like, only one God (no trinity) and one man who was raised to the position of mediator.

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   just_curiousposted 13 years ago

   And here I thought you were anti christ paarsurrey. Now I'm really confused. Can there be more than one?

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   Please don't feel shy to mention connected verses of at least 10 to 15 to make up your point from the context of Bible.
   
   Anybody please

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   Jesus believed in ONE-TRUE-GOD ; yet Paul and the Church invented Trinity; they are good candidates for the Anti-Christ .

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