What the H did HP do to the Comment Section?

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   vietnamvet68posted 12 years ago

   Have you noticed that when you go to write a hub you now have to put in the comment section. What is up with that, Do people realize it is not there anymore?  I didn't realize it at first.  I went to comment on someone's hub, and no comment section. Okay, so who reads the 'announcements?'

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      BobbiRantposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't notice either and when I've tried to comment on many others, I see they must not know because the comment capsule is missing in peoples hubs I normally comment on.

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      SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have removed the comment section on selective hubs.

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      theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I've removed the comment section on about 98 percent of my ads to make the most of that bottom ad.

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         SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Smart thinking

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            theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You did it as well on some hubs, yes?

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         vietnamvet68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         why write if you don't want comments from people, you sure don't make any money off those ads

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            SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            What do you mean? Comments make money?

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               theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Exactly...comments don't make me money.  Most comments come from other hubbers and although I miss the interaction....they are not the readers who are likely to click on an ad.

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            theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I don't write to receive comments from people.....I write because I want to and for the money.  I find it interesting that when I did remove those comment sections a month ago when everyone was complaining that their income had dropped...mine increased.

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               IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               That is interesting! I was wondering whether to take comments off some hubs so that the bottom ad was more prominent but haven't done anything about it yet.
               My earnings have also increased over the past month.

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                  theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yay!  Good to hear! 

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                     IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Not by much al the same, and they had hit rock-bottom (well, nearly)!

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   Some people say they've removed comment capsules in order to make better use of ad space at the bottom.   I've always been torn about comments, because my biggest earners were the ones with lots of comments.  Besides, some of the comments on SOME kind of Hubs I have have been very meaningful and have made real contributions to "the discussion".
   
   Then again, I've never really liked having comments on Hubs, because, for example, when you write for a newspaper there's not a big string of comments under your article.  I know that the Internet is different and even professional sites have places for comments, but it's just always struck me as kind of unprofessional (or maybe as kind of making what's already unprofessional even less professional).  Besides, a lot of comments require thoughtful replies, and I haven't always wanted to keep being "pulled back into" old Hubs (especially some of the ones that have a serious topic).
   
   So, when I saw that people were getting rid of their comments sections I saw it as "acceptable" (because until then I felt like it would be "anti-social or something").  It occurred to me, too, that with the big push on "quality writing", a lot of the comments didn't really do much to enhance the quality of some pages.  So, between it all, I decided to go ahead and get rid of the comments on most of my Hubs.
   
   People had been saying they were doing better earnings-wise (HP ads-wise) by getting rid of the comments.  I haven't found that in my case, but what I don't know is whether there's been a site-wide drop that caused HP earnings to be substantially lower than when I first signed up, or whether the substantial drop in earnings is because of having removed the comments.
   
   I don't know...   I like having no comments because I don't want to keep re-visiting Hubs.  Then again, I do like some of the sincere interaction that can go with comments.  It does feel like there's something missing not to have them.
   
   Since Panda, though, I haven't really known what I want to do or not do as far as Hubs go, and I've kind of taken a "bare-bones" approach to those I've written in most recent weeks.  I just kind of remain in a "pondering it all" mode.     It has occurred to me to put back all the comments, leave them without requiring moderation, and let Hubs do what they're going to do, or not do, on their own.  (Pondering takes time, apparently  )

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      onlinemom1963posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Lisa, thank you for your insight. Am a newcomer here in HP and I saw some of you were discussing about the comments section. For me I still find comments real helpful in driving traffic and adds interaction to the hub. Maybe for some hubs with real serious or formal issues, a comment might be a less priority to be added.
      
      I just want to ask about HP ads, and does it really hurt adsense ads? Which is better HP ads? or Google adsense?
      
      Thank you!

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         vietnamvet68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Well the only ones making any money from HP ads is HP, because Google traffic is down and will not return to HP. you want outside traffic and it is not happening.

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   BobbiRantposted 12 years ago

   Comments do not make money, but I personally like to know Someone has read my writings.  For NO comments I can write on blogger.  It does not seem to matter, I've noticed, whether there's comments or none as far as making money is concerned.   Google has slapped HP, fact, and room for more ads will NOT bring in outside traffic. That's the Reality of it all.

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      vietnamvet68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      People tend to get off track anyway, they have no clue, the subject was what happened to the comments not ads.

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         theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Really, we have no clue?  How rude of you.  I did not change the topic.  You said in YOUR original post that you went to someone's hub and went to leave a comment and there was no comment section.  I said that I removed my comment sections to make the most of that bottom ad....assuming that other hubbers have done the same and perhaps that is why you couldn't find a comment section.  Wasn't trying to get off subject or confuse you.  Bet you were popular on the playground growing up, huh?

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   I went looking for any announcement about the comment capsules no longer automatically being there, but I couldn't find it (maybe I looked to quickly).  In any case, I thought the subject was "comment capsules".  I guess it depends on how broadly any one individual defines "subject".

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   RedElfposted 12 years ago

   Comments can be problematic, especially when some use them solely as a means to raise their score through participation, and not as a way to engage in the topic or ideas of the hub. I find it takes some of the fun out of reading a great article when I can't comment to the writer.
   
   One of the sites for which I write - an kind of online news magazine format - has just added a comments to everyone's articles, because they feel it will engage the readers and keep them at the site longer.
   
   Having said that, though, I don't think we need to add a comments capsule for commercial, or product review hubs, as those are not written to promote discussion - they are written for an entirely different traffic.
   
   Maybe HP could make it an option to have the comments appear below the final ad?

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      theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That would be ideal!  (moving the comments under the ad)..of course, they could just give us that ad back that used to be above the comment section....

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      Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your point is a really good one, and it's one that someone else (who didn't intend to) kind of made on the forums elsewhere.  Earlier today I saw a thread title that caught my eye because the subject I've written a Hub on.  When I got to the thread it turned out the person opened it because she said she'd been to my Hub, discovered there wasn't a comments section, and wanted to get a discussion going on here because it's a serious subject.
      
      This may seem really dumb of me, but it never really occurred to me that anyone would even really notice if there aren't comment boxes.     Of course, I guess my thing is that when I read Hubs I tend to gravitate toward Hubs about stuff I don't know much about.  As a result, I usually don't have anything much to add to a lot of them (other than the old, "I enjoyed this Hub" thing).
      
      I'm starting to seriously re-think my comment-removal move.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years ago

   I don't think that adds at the bottom of the page make much of a difference. Once the reader is through reading they are most likely to scroll up and go somewhere else. The ads that make the most sense are adds at the beginning, either left or right of the writing and around the middle. Comments however, give you feed back which helps in gauging your writing style. I have left the comments on all of my hubs because to me feedback is important.

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