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   Williamjordanposted 12 years ago

   It has bee said that the Changes where necessary clean up Hub pages well I just spent forty- eight hours reviewing my hubs and debating staying on at Hub pages what I have learned has me up set I have found about 15 substandard hubs that I wrote when I was just putting out anything the moderators haven touch them. But my best performing Hubs the moderator have been all over them but I move them to squidoo and in less than 24 hours they are featured. Yes I have deleted them from Hub pages along with the substandard work the moderators some how missed. I am feeling a little betrayed by Hub pages.

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      Williamjordanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Someone flagged my Hud God awarness for Christian I resubmitted yesteday now they saying it's a duplicate this bull------------- How can this continue to happen ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
      seeing blood red

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   Garrett Mickleyposted 12 years ago

   I don't mean to be picky, but your grammar might be a big part of it.
   
   The reason is this: a lot of spammers use "spun content", which means that they write (or have someone write) one article, then use software to switch out words with their synonyms, making an "infinite" amount of articles that are all "different".
   
   A smart spammer would make sure that all of their spins are grammatically correct.
   
   Many are lazy and don't care.  What happens then, is they get a bunch of grammatically poor articles and post them to sites like Hubpages and Squidoo.  When Google sees large amounts of bad grammar like that, the website they are posted on (such as Hubpages) loses credibility in Google's eyes, and now EVERYONE who uses the site has to suffer the penalty of those spammers with bad grammar.
   
   You don't look like a spammer to me, but your grammar could use work.

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      Williamjordanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I except the grammar being a problem what I don't understand is Hubs that are generating traffic being graded extra hard why there is work that should have been removed that was not and still has not been mention it all gone now I am deleting it all Hub pages is looking scam like to me if they could make money it did not matter call a spade spade a spade

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      melporposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with Garett's comment. Do not blame hubpages when they flagged hubs that are clearly substandard. They are simply trying to help the writers improve the quality of their hubs. When hubs are flagged as substandard they are substandard. It is difficult to read and understand them when they are considered to be substandard.

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   Website Examinerposted 12 years ago

   Garrett Mickley, at least you have the courage to call it as you see it.

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   BobbiRantposted 12 years ago

   I have seen the 'bad grammar' of other hubbers NOT penalized, so many people get mixed messages at best when they happen to be in the line of fire. You Could say that was in the past, but I've seen it pretty recently too.  I see why some may get discouraged. I understand HP is working hard to fix it all too.

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   Williamjordanposted 12 years ago

   While I am airing it out all you copy cats on Hub pages who take others article and change the title in correct the grammar and write as your own find a new trick this one want be around.

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   Williamjordanposted 12 years ago

   feel better now been wanting too say that for along time  been laughing wondering if you knew any one noticed

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   The two things you've managed to do is prove that HP operational procedures are out of whack. Which, actually isn't any different than what many other hubbers have been talking about recently.
   
   However, if you have substandard hubs and YOU know they are substandard, yet you and HP leaves them up, is not a good sign. I will admit HP is having problems, but it begs to question-
   
   What is your problem? HP's is understandable, but what is your excuse for leaving up substandard material? Why haven't you taken them down sooner? Why haven't you moderated your own work?
   
   You don't have to answer of those questions. I am just pointing out what appears obvious to me, but might not be to you.
   
   Just a thought.

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      Williamjordanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you are o so right

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   PaulGoodman67posted 12 years ago

   To be honest, William, I don't really see how you can argue with HP over this.  As has been hightlighted by other hubbers, your hubs have lots of basic spelling and grammatical errors in them - some of them even have these problems in the title.

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   Williamjordanposted 12 years ago

   some of you miss the point this is not about complaining if they are substandard flagged them but don't be selective I have switched to Google chrome spelling will improve working on grammar  it's the fact that Hub pages is very selective and flagging leaving up bad work of some Authors in flagging their good work so copy cats can tweaked the title and when you correct they say it's a duplicate. My grammar need and improving but I have Top Ranked Article on several sites at this time I have found a niche. Plus I manged six blogs that have excellent traffic. These sites grade the work before they let you publish it works better for me maybe I see you fellows at the top.

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      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Are you saying William, that other hubbers have been reading your hubs, and then correcting them and reposting them as their own work?

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         Williamjordanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         yes

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            IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That is shocking - I'd name and shame them. It shouldn't be too hard to see your original and compare it to their copy.

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            Garrett Mickleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You should point this out to us.  I would like to see these copiers.  If they're copying you, they may also be copying others, too.

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    Cagsilposted 12 years ago

    If Hub members are stealing other members stuff and reposting on Hubpages- then these people do not need to be outed, but do need to be dealt with. Meaning, immediately report(flag) the profile to HP staff, for copied material.
    
    This should get the account banned and/or the material at least unpublished.

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       No I think it needs to come to the forums. William has already said "leaving up bad work of some Authors in flagging their good work so copy cats can tweaked the title and when you correct they say it's a duplicate" which suggests to me his own work has been getting flagged as duplicate after he has corrected the grammar in his own hubs. Maybe he doesn't know who is copying him?
       
       William, if you have any of those hubs left, put a line or two into google and add the word Hubpages and see what comes up.

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          Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Nothing good comes from outing the person and probably has nothing to do with other hubbers. Mentioning in the forums isn't actually a need. Not to mention, the negative attention it brings. Flag the profile, tell HP why you flagged it. If that doesn't get it removed, then file a DMCA with HP and see how they like it? Probably won't.
          If he does know, all that needs to happen is as I said to begin with.

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    Williamjordanposted 12 years ago

    I did it this way because I am some what to blame i just wanted to write and the beginning know it's matter it's my work I am still a work in progress the forums let you vent and get answers that's the best way these guys no who they are they will have too look else where know the whole community is aware. My account is slimmer but better all's well

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    Website Examinerposted 12 years ago

    The HubPages Terms of Use prohibit harassment and the like against other Hubbers. Unproven claims of plagiarism could easily violate the TOS. HubPages has a clear procedure for filing DMCA complaints, simply click the "copyright" link on any page. Anything else, contact HubPages and ask them to investigate.

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