Religion is a delusion while relativity is hallucination.

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   jomineposted 12 years ago

   A delusion  is defined to be a belief that is held despite evidence to the contrary.
   When people say something exist despite evidence of the contrary, it is delusion.
   
   Hallucinations are defined as perceptions in a conscious and awake state in the absence of external stimuli which have qualities of real perception.
   So when relativist say space exist and time is a dimension, is it delusion or hallucination?
   

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Neither.

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      psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your question makes no sense whatsoever and your stated assumptions are factually incorrect.

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         jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Don't just make a claim. Explain.

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      DoubleScorpionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So you are saying that Christians are delusional...

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      Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There is no evidence contrary to religion, hence faith is not delusional.

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      Apostle Jackposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Some art not suppose to go any further than they are in life and knowledge.
      We make choices in life that send us in different directions.Some was not meant to believe,so it is as it should be.

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   kessposted 12 years ago

   Delusion stems from the way of thinking which find its origin in the desires  of an individual.....
   
   And it is an impossibility for a man to go against his own desire, for they are the sum total of himself.
   
   Thus A delusion is created by each person unto his ownself, thus each will provides for himself what so ever evidence he requires to satisfy his delusion...
   
   This evidence He already accept as Truth otherwise he of his ownself will not be able believe it.....And this justification of Truth is further stregthened by his affiliation with all those who have subscribed to the same way of thinking....for they all have the same desires...
   
   When a man truly desires TRUTH, he then will of necessity change his way of thinking.......And in finding Truth one inherits all things.
   
   Halucination have their origin in misplaced reality....just as a dream.

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      Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      OK, so "time is a demension" is it a delusion or hallucination?

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         kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         delusion and halucinations are both brothers and both false they are sons of the same father...
         
         So time is neither one nor the other but actually a composition of both the yes and the no answer to the question..

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            Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Delusiona, halucinations... it's time for a reality check.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   [When people say something exist despite evidence of the contrary, it is delusion.]
   
   Delusion is only one possible explanation.  Almost every post you make contains this mistake no matter how often it is corrected. Just because all dogs are four legged, does not mean all four legged animals are dog.  Just because delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions. Your inability to learn to avoid this repeated error is one reason I sometimes don't bother responding substantively.
   
   [So when relativist say space exist and time is a dimension, is it delusion or hallucination?]
   
   First how is space and time not supported by evidence.  I am currently sitting in space and moving through time.  Evidence seems to support the existence of both.
   
   Happy?

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      jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions."
      Say that to those who wrote ICD-10!
      
      "how is space and time not supported by evidence"
      You sit in space like you sit in a chair? You occupy space, not sit in!
      Space is the human conceptualization of "nothing". Nothing don't exist, only 'some'thing can exist. Space is negatively predicated, it is absence of everything.
      Is time a tunnel for you to move through?
      Time is a concept to describe the two positions of an object, in case of humans it is sun, the reference object!

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         mecheilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         just what do you mean by evidence, then?

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         Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What, yet another thread on this?

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            jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Be like paarsurrey!

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               Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Oh, I see, it is something you are trying to emulate based on another members actions of trolling here. Gotcha!

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                  jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thats what ur doing beel, tellin everybody to 'understand', just like paarsurrey, without any explanation.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   ["delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions."
   Say that to those who wrote ICD-10!]
   
   It is a basic logical syllogism as understood by most people over the age of reason.
   
   ["how is space and time not supported by evidence"
   You sit in space like you sit in a chair? You occupy space, not sit in!]
   
   Sitting in is a form of occupying
   
   
   [Space is the human conceptualization of "nothing". Nothing don't exist, only 'some'thing can exist. Space is negatively predicated, it is absence of everything.]
   
   Bollocks, space is any area bounded by height, width and depth.
   
   [Is time a tunnel for you to move through?]
   
   I don't understand what you mean
   
   [Time is a concept to describe the two positions of an object, in case of humans it is sun, the reference object!]
   
   Time is the orderly change of objects within space under continuous observation.

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      jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "Bollocks, space is any area bounded by height, width and depth."
      Whenever you describe, in terms of length, width and height, you are describing something - an object. These are called "dimensions" and is used to represent the orientation of an object. It is mutually perpendicular. Space is not an object, it is absence of all objects. Hence space is not bounded by anything. It has no boundaries.
      
      "[Is time a tunnel for you to move through?]
      I don't understand what you mean"
      Neither do I! How can anybody move through time?
      
      "Time is the orderly change of objects within space under continuous observation."
      You are just elaborating. Space has no reference point. Location is in reference to another object. Whether you observe or not objects move. So it is ultimately two locations of an object, irrespective of whether it is orderly or not.(incidentally order is just another human concept). so how are you going to move through the continuous change?

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   Jo_Goldsmith11posted 12 years ago

   You have your right to your opinion.

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   L.K.kiruiposted 12 years ago

   You know, jomine, the problem is unhealthy mixing of poetry with physics resulting in psychics. Only poets move through time, leave in space, fall in love etc. Physicists move only through pipes, leave in houses and fall on the tables. It is very strict!

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