BDSM & Ethics... is it sin?

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   andycoolposted 12 years ago

   Are BDSM practices ethical? Should these kinds of activities be considered as sin in the eyes of the Church? Should the Church ban BDSM practices?
   
   

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Only if they ban buggering boys behind the alter, too. They can't have everything.

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         andycoolposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   What Christian teaching does BDSM contradict?
   
   It seems to me that if you seriously thought it sinful you wouldn't have posted the latex babe.

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      andycoolposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know if it's sinful... it seems a bit unethical to me! Is it sinful really... what do the Preachers say?

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Okay, so what ethical principle does it conflict with? But if you mean non-religious-based ethics this isn't really the right sub-forum.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   "Who am I to disagree?
   I travel the world
   And the seven seas--
   Everybody's looking for something.
   Some of them want to use you
   Some of them want to get used by you
   Some of them want to abuse you
   Some of them want to be abused."
   Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)

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      andycoolposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well said... knolyourself, thanks!

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   Stump Parrishposted 12 years ago

   GR8 song knolyourself.  "BEATS" me , lol. I can see how this could be considered a sin but I'm the wrong one to be answering this anyway. I just caught the song that was posted and really like it

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   On what basis would it be a sin, I don't get it.
   
   Some wants to be tied up, so you tie them up, later you let them go.
   
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   Someone wants to be spanked, so you spank them, a good time is had by all.
   
   Quirky, perhaps, but where's the sin--assuming the consenting parties are married etc etc.

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      OutWestposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly.  If two people enjoy it then what's wrong with that?  Personally I don't see anything wrong.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   People have feelings internal to themselves, which are not always understood. One may act on those feelings in conjunction and the consent of others. The basis of it being sin is external, as models for the way people are suppose to feel. If you do not correspond your feelings to that model you are sinful.

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   andycoolposted 12 years ago

   BDSM is not based on Christian Egalitarianism... in that way it could / should be treated as irreligious and hence sin, but does Christianity consider it as sinful act?

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      psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The sexual or lifestyle dominance and submission do not actually change the moral worth or rights of either person. Nothing is done to a person against their will.
      
      From what I see BDSM is a lot more egalitarian than a lot of traditional Christian marriages where the man is 'head of household' and the woman 'obeys'--hell, until recently many first world countries didn't give a married woman the legal right to refuse to have sex.
      
      I would guess that a typical BDSM practitioner is probably more aware of and observant of egalitarianism than a typical Christianity practitioner.

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         andycoolposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's a wise argument... really! Is it approved by Church?

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            psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            There is more than one "church" out there and most are not interested in making rules as to which fetishes are okay or not.
            
            I tend to assume that if it doesn't involve committing a sin, it is okay. And no one here has managed to come up with what is sinful in BDSM.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   "Is it approved by Church?" The church is external authority. They do not approve of natural internal feelings, as they are not considered ass perfect. Priests are disallowed sex, except apparently predatory sex.

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