Do we need to kill a naughty students ?

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   cupess001writingposted 12 years ago

   Naughty student is disaster for every teacher in this world in the field of education. But I don't know exactly what to do for the best punishment for such a student. Any idea what to do ? Why not to help me?

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      Freegoldmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It totally depends on what the student is doing wrong, doesn't it? The student needs to know what behavior they are doing that is not acceptable. I would establish some rules. Once the student knows the rules, if the behavior is repeated, warn the student if he/she does it again, there will be consequences, and let him/her know what those consequences are. I think this also works with any age groups. The punishment depends on the age group. Also, I think a positive way is to tell the student when they are doing well or doing what they are supposed to instead of always telling him/her what they are always doing wrong. It seems to me whenever I compliment a student, the behavior that is acceptable is repeated because they want to impress you. Then, the other students will follow through if they are getting compliments. I hope this helps.

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         cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Awesome idea . Thank you for suggestion

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      LeslieAdrienneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think killing them would help .... perhaps something a little less permanent

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Killing students? You actually think that is an answer to them being "naughty".
   
   It sounds like you are conflict with yourself more so, than you are actually worried about "naughty" students.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Of course not, I am well trained to be patient and the way of my teaching reduce that thing happened. Some other time you'll see what I can do to treat a bad mannered students. Thank , I just test how many people care about it ?

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   earnestshubposted 12 years ago

   I have found that staying calm, smiling and talking calmly to my kids works OK. Never had to kill any of them!
   
   You are joking right?

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have had the barely suppressed urge to strangle a snotty 17 year old on more than one occasion.  Killing someone certainly eliminates the possibility of future problems.  I cannot say that I ever seriously considered it but that would lure me back to teaching.

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It seems we have the terrible two's all the way up to the testy twenties.
         
         I dunno I just love kids, and usually find common ground.
         
         My family has two 5 year olds, a 6 year old, then 13, 14, 18, 22.
         
         They are the light of my life!

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            uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I was being sardonic.
            
            I enjoy my nieces and nephews.  Teenagers tend to love me but do not ask me to teach them.  That is just touching off the fuse.

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               earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I see. I don't think I would like to teach teenagers in a school environment either.

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                  uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Little Bast**ds.  Ooops and involutary reaction when ever I think about my teaching days.  Little Bast**ds.

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                     earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Yep kids can be real little b's at times, and having a lot of them together and trying to teach them sounds like a trying task.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Awesome idea. I agree perfectly with you Guy. Thank for commenting.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      what if they overacting with up-skirting girls students. I need your suggestion please !

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I wish I could help, but what works here may not work where you are teaching.
         
         If male students behaved in that way here, we would have a meeting of all students and make the boys listen to the girls complaints then set standards of behaviour for both boys and girls, then enforce it with suspension from classes and if necessary from the school for students who break the rules agreed to in the meeting.

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            cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Awesome idea ! Thank that's reasonable indeed.

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               earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Thank you! It feels good to be useful. I liked your song!

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   wayseekerposted 12 years ago

   cupess001writing,
   
   While I certainly understand the occasional desire to kill naughty students--they can be so very, very frustrating--the most successful solution I have found is to invite them in for lunch.  By this, I do not mean lunch detention.  Simply sharing lunch with them--talking to them very honestly about their lives and what they are interested in--begins to build relationship with them.  It has never completely solved the problem, but when it comes up again, they are much more likely to be reasonable when I call them on poor behavior.  They just need to know that you're invested in them for the long haul, not just interested in keeping them quiet because they're in your way.
   
   Hope this helps!
   
   wayseeker

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      But, keep out religion junk out of it.

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         cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Okay, Thank for you for best suggestion. I love the way you are

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            wayseekerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You are most welcome.  Yes, I have taught for twelve years.  Best of luck!
            
            wayseeker

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               Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hey Wayseeker,
               
               Next time look before you post. The post you replied to, wasn't even talking to you.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thank for suggestion I like it. Are you a teacher ?

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   cupess001writingposted 12 years ago

   sorry miss-glancing

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   klarawieckposted 12 years ago

   I make them sit next to my desk and don't let them blink. I have them show the rest of the class how to do an exercise (a way to allow them to get the attention they constantly crave) and I warn them that it's for a grade (that way they don't goof off). When it gets really bad, they must write the rules, which I keep over the years, returning it on the last day of school before they graduate... some of these misbehaved kids get fifty or sixty pages of rules written by them before they leave Elementary school to enter Sixth grade.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's great idea but the educational system in Indonesia is different with yours. Let's say elementary level and secondary one are separated and organized by different teachers.

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   NathanielZhuposted 12 years ago

   The problem is that "naughty" is such a relative term.
   What if it is naughty to speak against the government. If it is naughty to speak against the equivalent of Hitler's Government, than "killing" these "naughty kids" can only cause harm. Who are we to force our beliefs upon children. What if it is naughty for a child to argue against a religion which worships a giant omnipotent Napkin? Killing this child is destroying the one opposition to an unreasonable belief.
   ASTF.TK

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a grandfather, so I don't consider as many things naughty as a lot of parents do.
      Kids need a lot of freedom to grow into who they are, and if allowed to be narcissistic till age 6 or 7 they seem to turn out to be just the opposite as adults in my experience, many bad kids in their teens usually were too controlled when younger in my opinion. With these kids, trust and inner self worth need to be carefully nurtured sometimes for years.

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         NathanielZhuposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. My father was one of those control types and I hated it.
         A few years back, I finally convinced him to loosen his grip and I'm much better at everything now. My depression disappeared and I am well on my way to fulfil my aspirations of being a cancer/aging researcher at George Mason University.

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            earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Good for you!
            
            It takes a lot of effort to bring about change when people are suppressed, especially if they experienced it when they were little kids.

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      cupess001writingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Nice to see you here NathanielZhu! Thank you for suggestion. Good Job.

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