Atheism, Agnosticism and Skepticism are religions of doubt;

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Atheism, Agnosticism and Skepticism are religions of doubt;
   is it normal to start doubting when there is no reasonable ground to doubt?

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      Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They are not religions Paar; they are points of view and by definition, they doubt. So what's new?
      
      Of course there is reason to doubt; we are human, and anything of the supernatural realm is by definition outside of our five senses.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well, atheism is not a religion of any sorts. It's possible to doubt when there are no reasonable grounds to believe. Is it normal to believe, when there are no reasonable grounds to believe?

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am skeptical of skepticism and doubtful of doubt. Thus, doubting my skepticism is doubtful.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Don't be ridiculous; religion is belief in a God with no evidence to support that belief.  The others are lack of the same belief.
      
      There is almost always reason to doubt, and in the case of religion a total lack of any evidence will produce atheism instead of mere doubt in anyone that cares to actually reason through and examine the ancient beliefs of our uneducated and ignorant ancestors.  Smart they may have been, but still ignorant and uneducated by todays standards.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And I almost forgot...
      
      The bolded text is an unfounded premise on your part. Stop doing that. It confuses people. Unless that is your intent...

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         For atheism I take religion as an ideiology of doubt where there is no reasonable ground to doubt.

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            paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Ya know... I remember a conversation I had with you over a year ago.
            
            I had complained about the Islamic terrorists killing 3,000+ Americans.
            
            You asked me, "Where was this?"
            
            In other words, you had never heard of 9/11.
            
            Only a very young, very sheltered kid would have not heard about 9/11.
            
            Between your very flawed logic and your complete lack of knowledge concerning recent historical events, that is my conclusion.
            
            You are a very nice kid, but you are still just a kid. I find it highly unlikely that you are even 18 years old.
            
            Sorry.

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               paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I never denied of the happening of 9/11; this was done by the terrorists who acted against the teachings of Quran/Islam/Muhammad; their actions are their personal actions and these have nothing to do with Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

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                  paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Now your statement proves what I said in my previous post...!!!
                  
                  My previous post clearly stated that you had never heard of 9/11, not that you had denied it happening.
                  
                  Now I am wondering whether you are just a kid, or an outright liar.
                  
                  Let us not communicate further...

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly, you have no reasonable ground to doubt.

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      Jesus was a hippyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You're full of shit parsurrey. Religion is defined as the belief in a god. Atheism is defined as the lack of belief in a god. How the hell can atheism be a religion?

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   Wilfionposted 12 years ago

   Religion is based upon tradition, some of which is very ancient.  Hinduism for example goes back at least 10,000 years.  And the Western monotheistic religions are based on those of Bronze Age desert dwelling people.  Therefore, they go back to before a time of science.  The ancient Jews believed the world to be a flat disc, which had a dome above it, which extended a few miles into the sky, and which made up the entire universe.  God's home was above this dome.
   
   Compare this to our modern understandings, concerning the age of the universe, its size, the evolution of species etc.  The rationalist, who recognises these scientific truths cannot help but be sceptical and doubtful, when someone without evidence informs them that the universe is 6,000 old or that God made man from the earth and woman from man's rib.  There is every reason to doubt religion, when presented by such claims.  However, there is no religion of atheism.  There are no churches, where atheists go to worship science or rationalism.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think at that time when the ancient Jews believed world to be a flat disc; at that time even the atheists also took it to be a disc; or perhaps there were no atheists at that time.
      
      Can you please quote from a contemporary ancient atheist, who did not believe the world to be a flat disc, when the ancient Jews existed?

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   Excellent! Worth repeating...
   
   However, there is no religion of atheism.  There are no churches, where atheists go to worship science or rationalism.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Now you've put it like that, in bold, I recognize the absolute truth in bolded letters.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not so sure of that - would a billiard hall count?

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   It is only doubt if belief the default from which only abnormalities differ.  In which case you have already decided it is an inferior position and discussion is pointless.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Except for entertainment purposes.
      
      Paarsurrey's statement was so logically flawed that I think even he knew it.
      
      For some reason the phrase "flame bait" comes to mind...

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         Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe, he thought that as skeptics, doubters and atheists, he would cunningly lull us into doubting our own beliefs, by referring to them as a religion.

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   You've outed me paar. You are correct. I have an agnostic altar I bow at each day; to doubt the religious and the atheists. I have created my own agnostic holidays. And I'm writing a book of scriptures, so my religion can be embraced by other agnostics. Since I doubt the existence of a god, it's full of blank pages. I'm hoping to sell it, none the less.

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