An update on my earnings here

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   livelongerposted 12 years ago

   Hi everyone,
   
   Given the rough-and-tumble year we've had with respect to traffic (Panda), I thought I'd share my experience, and maybe encourage others to share theirs, too.
   
   I can't disclose exact CPMs or traffic numbers that allow you to deduce CPMs (violation of AdSense TOS), but I will share percentage increases.
   
   1st slice: November 2010 - this was the last month I was running AdSense only, and this was before Panda, of course
   
   2nd slice: October 2011 - post-Panda recovery, Ad Program + AdSense together
   
   3rd slice: October 15-31 - smaller slice, but with 2 major changes: my traffic fell about 1/3 (after going gangbusters for a couple of months) but after the AdSense Custom Javascript implementation gave me a huge Ad Program boost
   
   Slice 1: earnings $361
   Slice 2: earnings $681, CPM +24% higher than in Slice 1
   Slice 3: earnings $362, CPM +38% higher than in Slice 1 (and 25% higher than the 2 weeks prior)
   
   Based on my current traffic run-rate, I'm getting 28% more traffic than I was getting in November 2010, but I'm making 83% more money.

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      vocalcoachposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is great! I don't understand it all but I am more motivated than ever after reading this.  Thanks so much!

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You're quite welcome. I can (try to) explain anything that seems confusing.

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            homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            What is CPM?

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               paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hey, homesteadbound. I saw you on the HP front page. WTG.

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                  homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks

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               Garrett Mickleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               CPM is how much money you make per 1000 hits.  So, if your CPM is $5 you will make $5 for every 1000 hits you get.

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         tyra mariezaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm with you vocal coach, I don't understand it all. But I understand that number after the dollar sign and that's enough to help me comprehend

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         Shariceyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with Vocalcoach...I'm not sure I understand it completely but it gives me some motivation. Thanks

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      relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      In 2007, I earned $112 for the whole month of November.
      
      In 2011, I earned that much in the first three days of November.

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         David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Significant difference !!

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         againsttheoddsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is this from 200 hubs?

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      beautyspot2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      can someone explain how i can earn more ive earnt 23 cent so far in 5 days.

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         LeanManposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Go to the help center and have a read.. or search for other hubs about increasing earnings, keywords, backlinks, seo, onpage seo, and a host of other stuff that you will find as you start to learn (search box is top right)..
         
         But generally having earned anything after just six days is an achievement, hubs mature over time....like a cheese!!

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      jimmythejockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Jason thanks for sharing this information, I was doubtful of all of the changes at first but I have been proven wrong here is a breakdown of my earnings since the recent changes.....jimmy
      September 17-October 17 Google adsense = $613.17
      
      
      
      October 17-November 17 Hubpages ad Program = $885.14
      
      
      
      October 17-November 17 Google Adsense =$145.50
      
      
      
      Total for google and Hubpages ad program=$1030.64
      
      
      
      TOTAL Difference in earnings  my earnings are up by $417.17

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for sharing this, Jimmy. Was the jump a matter of an increase in traffic, CPM, or a combination of both for you?

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            jimmythejockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Livelonger there was an increase in cpm and i have also had around a 33% increase in traffic all in all my future on hubpages is looking good.....jimmy

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               livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Nice

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                  greatstuffposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  This is amazing..how do you guys do it?..any chance of sharing? I know there's a lot of articles on how to increase your earnings etc, but I don't seems to be moving that fast enough. Is it because I have less than 15hubs?

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                     livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I didn't earn a lot until I had a corpus of well over 100 Hubs, and it does take time for even the best of Hubs to get decent traffic from the search engines. I'm spending more time nowadays making sure my Hubs are full of the best information, because competition is only getting fiercer.

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      againsttheoddsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      livelonger, is that from just 165 hubs?

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, although I publish new Hubs and unpublish some unsalvageable old ones from time to time. I've published a bit more than 200 Hubs total, but have unpublished/deleted close to 40 of them (most of which were never big traffic drivers or earners).

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            David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That is what I did -- deleted/unpublished articles that were unsuccessful, were bad topics, or simply did not get traffic because of SEO etc...

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               livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Based on the fact that I'm getting better traffic now, I think removing stuff that Google has signaled it doesn't like (because it's not getting any traffic) seems to have helped the other stuff.

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      tyra mariezaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Very, very encouraging.

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      bry1980posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      hi we are new how do you make money on here can someone please help us thanks

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      Dorsiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the update. Did you customize your Google ads through Adsense to optimize your ad space? I got an email from them a couple months ago that I had more space to optimize but I don't know how to do that.

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         No, I ignore those emails because they (i.e. their automated bot) are apparently unaware of the fact that the reason I only have 1 ad unit per Hub is that I'm running the HubPages Ad Program, too, and I get more AdSense units delivered that way.

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   Randy Godwinposted 12 years ago

   I've lost most of my traffic and earnings with the sub-domain switch on August 10th.  I went from making hundreds of dollars per month on both Adsense and Amazon to practically nothing now.  Not too happy at the moment.
   
   No one--including you guys--can tell me why I suddenly plummeted overnight.  A very frustrating experience, to say the least.

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      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Randy, its you and me both - August 10th - throat cut, only I had another drop on the 13th of October.
      I am glad I started that second account, might be able to rescue something from Christmas, but I wish I knew what was wrong with my main account.
      I'm now earning roughly the same as I did in my first few months here with next to no hubs.

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         theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm still down here with you both on this profile too.

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            Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Some sort of clusterf**k, no doubt.  Google has screwed us royally! 

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            IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah of course, you too, and was it CMHypno? We have this little group of hubbers who are collateral damage, and no-one gives a toss so long as their account is OK.
            
            The selfish attitude from some hubbers stinks.

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               Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               So true, Izzy!  Too bad we have no one here on HP staff who can help other than flinging insults at us! 

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                  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I even read the Google rating Document, the one they didn't want us to see, and there are no clues there except to say recipe hubs written with non-US measurements will get rated down (for Google.com). I have no hubs that broke any of the rules they talked about there, and the only thing they said about RSS feeds is that they will rate down content that consists of nothing but an RSS feed, in other words those MFA people who don't write any orginal content and just stick a feed on a site and let someone else's content fill it.
                  
                  They don't especially like affiliate sites with nothing but (ie) Amazon capsules, but add a decent amount of original text too and they are fine with that.
                  
                  The 50 word rule should take care of that anyway.

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                     Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Yep, I removed lots of Amazon capsules and all of the RSS capsules too in hopes that might help.  Also links capsules with the duplicate content sentences but nothing has helped one bit.  I don't think we've done anything wrong as I've checked out hubs by those whose traffic has increased and I'm not impressed with their work at all.
                     
                     Something stinks about this whole thing!

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                        IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I have to say I agree with you there.
                        
                        Some of my hubs maybe don't read well out loud according to HP's SEO, but at least they are readable which is more than I can say for some. But I refuse to bitch about other people's work because that isn't nice.

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                           Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           There is a time and place for not being nice.  Besides, I'm a snake! 

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                           theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Agree. Honestly...how can we go from having one of our strongest months to garbage in a day? I'm baffled. Something is just not right. I hope our "private party" takes a different direction soon.

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                              Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Like Izzy says, no one gives a rat's a** but us!

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                                 theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I know. No one cares until they're forced to join our party too.

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                        toygurusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I am still hopeful things that things will turn around, but it's hard to be optimistic when the community doesn't really support you.

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                           PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Hubbers can express sympathy with the plungers, or speculate about what causes certain hubs to fall (and I have done both) - But in practical terms the only people who really matter are Google, as they effectively decide how highly your hubs rank and therefore your level of traffic and earnings.

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               authorfriendlyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               for what its worth I care

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                  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I just saw this comment. Thanks, authorfriendly

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         Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It is indeed sad for both of us, Izzy.  I went from the highest earning month ever to the lowest almost overnight.  I wish I knew whose ass to beat! 

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         wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's great news, Izzy, that something good is happening your way. I surely hope it continues and grows for you.

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            IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Its good that my second account hasn't been slapped and is growing, but what a huge amount of work I have ahead of me, just to claw something back! I already put in the two years hard work, and I have to start and do it all over.
            
            Meanwhile I have all those sites and blogs up and need a team to write the content for all of them, but there is just me. I just can't do it all.

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               Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               And with no guarantee we won't be slapped around by the big G at any time in the future.

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      Lily Roseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      DITTO

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   EmpressFelicityposted 12 years ago

   As of now (November 2011) I am earning pretty much the same as I was last year. However, this is with twice as much traffic as I had this time last year.

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   Sept 2011 earned as much as Nov. and Dec. last year put together - up until then my best earning period.  10% hub quantity increase.
   
   October fell 10%, a bare handful of new hubs.
   
   Traffic has, by now, gone up from Sept by 20% or more.  Xmas is coming.  I hope to see Nov beat Sept by a considerable amount.  The one day so far was good....

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      HikeGuyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Livelonger -- Thanks for posting that encouraging report. I started posting hubs again recently and keep looking for ways to improve my results.
      
      What do you think accounts for the increase in earnings, if you don't mind my asking? I realize no one has a crystal ball for what works post-Panda, yet I suspect that there are things we can learn through experimenting.
      
      I'm glad to see some others here recovering traffic.
      
      Yesterday I edited the tags, tweaked the keywords and added an update and a couple of relevant links to one of my older hubs, and today it's getting more traffic than any of my hubs other than the newest one.
      
      Any thoughts on what's working for you?

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I think for the CPM surge it has to do with the Ad Program, which has worked really well for me, personally. (YMMV, and others will tell you they do better with AdSense alone, apparently.)
         
         My traffic has gone up a bit since last year (i.e. it went down drastically with Panda, went back up to just shy of what it was before Panda with the recovery, went up WAY past it for a couple of months, and has now settled to a level a bit higher than before). I've retired close to 2 dozen Hubs which were either never getting traffic or were horribly outdated, and published about 3 dozen more. Most of the new ones, though, are too new to be getting significant traffic yet (there is that long wait before they get authority with Google).

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   Hey guys, I started a second account just try a keyword ready for Christmas, apparently 'Stocking' gets 100,000 searches, whether it'll be worth anything I don't know..but every bit helps.

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      visitmaniacposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      stocking is to general of a term you wont ever rank for it and it could be any number of things such as stockings for xmas, womens stockings etc.
      
      Christmas stockings only gets 12,100 searches world wide and on top of that its in high competition your chances of ranking for it are very low. Plus seasonal stuff means your going to loss that traffic after the hollidays.

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         Richieb799posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I know its a general term, I wasn't trying to earn mega bucks with it..but I wanted to get in on the Christmas traffic. I know Christmas Stockings only gets 12,100 searches, but do you think that will stay at 12,100 next month? It was the only keyword domain left when I chose it.
         
         I get 3,000 daily views from this account.
         
         I know other well established SEO hubbers who have chosen keyword domains that only receive 12,000 monthly searches in time for Xmas.
         
         This is not a major project of mine, I have a lot of websites on the go at the moment, I am an SEO developer for a merchant services company as my day job.
         
         I have numerous websites that rank on the first page for over 100,000 exact searches.
         
         Not going off on one or anything, I just don't want you to think I am an amateur, I do remember you were here when I joined..to give me advice..so all respect intended.

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   cardeleanposted 12 years ago

   I agree with HikeGuy, thanks for sharing your encouraging info.  I wasn't a member for much before the panda hit so I wasn't affected like others.  I did take a steep plunge (for me) Oct. 13th but I've had my best day since then today and a decent day yesterday so I'm trying to keep positive that I'm on the upswing of this latest hit.

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   HikeGuyposted 12 years ago

   Livelonger -- Thanks. Good point about the HP ad program -- I started that in October and the results so far are encouraging. I'm working on creating more new ones and tweaking the old ones. Thanks again for the encouraging post.
   
   -- Trent

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      livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My pleasure. Good luck!

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   Will Apseposted 12 years ago

   Hubpages has always been good for me. Relative to other online platforms it is simple to use and highly profitable.
   
   I wish they had stopped tinkering with stuff last month and left the adsense unit top right. That really delivered in my case. If it benefits the majority, though, I suppose I shouldn't complain (too much).
   
   If I'm not hurt by the Amazon changes that are on the way, I am looking forward to enjoying the doubling of income- relative to last year- that the sub-domain switch ushered in.

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      AEvansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am doubling and honestly do not have any complaints and I am happy about that.

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   Paragliderposted 12 years ago

   For me, the change to subdomains more than trebled my traffic from about 500 to 1,700 views per day. I'm finding the HP ads scheme works better than adsense ever did, but I'm not making any effort to chase money here. I just write what interests me at the time.
   I don't use eBay because I have nothing to sell, and don't use Amazon because of their union-breaking activities and their effect on small bookshops.

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    frogdroppingposted 12 years ago

    HPads is neither here nor there for me. It cannabilises Adsense, and doesn't return what Adsense did. When I had a huge traffic increase, it didn't come close to touching what I used to earn from Adsense alone.

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       My adsense has died too, even if I switch HPads off.
       
       What annoys me about Hpads is that if I have 200 views, I have a CPM of <TOS violation>, but if I have 1000 views, the CPM drops to <TOS violation>.
       
       So all those extra views don't equate to extra earnings, like they would do with Adsense.

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          EmpressFelicityposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I get the same thing, and I would be extremely grateful to hear an explanation from one of the staff as to why.
          
          After all it's not much of a motivation to try and write more hubs/increase your traffic, if you know that your CPM is going to go down.

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             WriteAngledposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I asked this question a while back and Jason answered it was because I was getting worthless traffic from India. I think it is crazy to make blanket judgements on a geographical basis. You get avid consumers everywhere.

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                EmpressFelicityposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Hmm. My most viewed hub on this account is currently getting HALF of all my traffic, and it's the hub that is most responsible for any fluctuations in my overall views.
                
                So by looking at its stats, I can get a very good overall idea of where my traffic is coming from. And it's mainly google.co.uk, google.com and google.com.au, with a tiny proportion of google.co.in.

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                   IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   That didn't take long for me to look up either, having so few hubs with views, and one in particular showing a similar traffic pattern to yours.
                   
                   Less than 10% of all my views over the last month, have come from anywhere at all in the world outside of the US, Canada, Australia and UK and Ireland.
                   
                   These Indian guys must be earning us a negative CPM!

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          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I do apologise for the TOS violations I unwittingly put in this comment - as the CPMs were not exact but were rather rounded figures, I did not think I was breaking any rules.
          
          Worth noting in case anyone else does the same.

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    Rik Ravadoposted 12 years ago

    My results have been good with around 100% earnings increase from Aug to Sep and a further 100% increase from Set to Oct but with only 3 new hubs.  The earlier increase was linked to Panda algorithm changes and the later increase because I switched Hub Ads on again.
    
    I do sympathise with the plungers, however.  I have a secondary account that plunged to zero for a few days in October then traffic returned.  It has now plunged again and i'm waiting to see if it recovers.  Although overall I'm doing well this plunging really upsets me because there is no logical explaination for it.  I'm frustrated that neither hubpages nor the web seem to have a solution.  I appreciate it must really suck if this happens to your primary account AND there is no immediate recovery!

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    CMHypnoposted 12 years ago

    I am really happy for those in this thread who are posting such good results and increasing their earnings.   Good reward for all your hard work and long may it continue for you all.
    
    However, I'm in the plunger club with Izzy, the herbivorehippi and Randy for no good reason that I can see - having tweaked, tweaked and tweaked some more.
    
    Am currently concentrating on short stories for the contest, not for traffic or any thoughts of winning, but because I want to develop my creative writing skills.
    
    As the hypnotherapy side of things has also tanked due to the economy, have had to take a part time job, but the path of life is a twisting one at the best of times, so am just trying to enjoy the journey.
    
    Hope all of you who are doing well have a happy and profitable Christmas season.
    
    (Fellow plungers lets break out the vodka!)

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       homesteadboundposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    frogdroppingposted 12 years ago

    @ CM - there are a lot more plungers onsite than just the few that hit the forum. And whilst traffic looks on the increase site wide, don't forget how many more pages have been added in the last months, and HP still hasn't got much beyond the traffic it was achieving a couple of years or so back.
    
    So I think there's more in the plunge category than the surge one.
    
    Back to the OP's topic: how are you doing with HPads? (not you CM, I mean folks in general )

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       paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       My question deleted.
       
       Observation: The answer is that sometimes it takes days for all the adsense results to come floating in.

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          frogdroppingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          lol I saw what you'd written originally. HPads have prime position on our hubs. Adsense is positioned badly. So saying that the Adsense revenue has dropped. For me, that's exactly what happened.
          
          Bottom line was this: after the latest ad placement restructuring a few weeks back, the Adsense revenue I was getting post-panda all but died. So I felt forced to use HPads. Then, in comparison to some (I'm using livelonger here as he shared his stats) the revenue HPads generates (for me) still neither match nor exceed Adsense.
          
          As for Adsense taking days to come in - not direct from Adsense. They're fab for the stats side of things. I love how you can see what's doing well, what's not.
          
          @ Simey - I'm happy to hear that you're doing ok out of HPads. I haven't bothered with the Ebay sign-up. As for Amazon, when that kicks in I may well exit.

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       SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       frogdropping:
       
       HPads are being really good to me at the moment - I'm probably earning double what I was pre-panda. I'm in a 'surge' mode at the moment, so this could change very quickly!
       
       HP ebay isn't working for me yet - I'm about 50% down on what I earned over the last few months but I guess over time I'll see the 'rate' I earn go up - HP Ads more than makes up for it.
       
       HP Amazon - as most of my sales come from Hubpages then I'm going to benefit from this - probably see an increase of 20% on average.

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       CMHypnoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hey I do have HPads you know!
       
       {sighs and slinks back to plunge hole}

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    Millionaire Tipsposted 12 years ago

    Since I am new to HP, this is very encouraging.  It is good to know that my couple pennies will increase to real numbers that are worth the effort of writing the hubs.  Thank you for sharing the info.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Intersting figures.  But, 166 hubs over the course of 5 years and this is all that you are earning??
    
    I find it interesting that it takes time to write good articles, yet adding a paragraph of 2 to any recipe that can be copied and pasted, does well.
    
    So apparently, it is not good content that counts, or original content that counts, it is trying to figure out what Google likes, and the right keyword usage that counts. This could also explain why the not good articles and hubs do well.

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Curious:  Have you ever said anything positive about Hubpages.com?

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    Time Spiralposted 12 years ago

    I'm a little peeved
    
    I implemented the HP AdProgram.
    
    I'm doing okay with that program. I was pretty happy! Then I checked adSense. F-ing LOL!
    
    My adSense pageviews have increased, a decent amount, but my traffic has completely dropped off. Literally, a 94.29% decrease (to be exact) in adSense performance at the same time I'm experiencing an INCREASE in traffic. It's crazy.
    
    I also don't fully understand the HP adProgram either. I thought it was CPM? Some days I will get surges of traffic, much more than usual, and my earnings for that day will be less than some days with less traffic.
    
    It's starting to smell fishy, but I wanted to reach out to the community before I made any moves.

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       wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       No, it's not fishy - every thing you're seeing is expected and normal.
       
       Adsense income decreases drastically because the ad spaces they occupied are now given to HPads.  The only way to actually determine if HPads is a winner for you is to compare the total income (HPads + Adsense) per 1000 views over a month's time.
       
       Your CPM will change daily as advertisers come and go and as what advertisers will pay varies up and down.  When we lost the Drano ads my CPM was cut in half, for instance.

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    thisisoliposted 12 years ago

    My traffic as recovered, but my earnings are still low.

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    KCC Big Countryposted 12 years ago

    My top traffic/earnings hub is a seasonal hub.  Last year during this season my total pageviews across all hubs at that time topped around 4,000 pageviews in 24 hrs.  This year it got as high as 13,700 views in 24 hrs with this one hub alone counting for 6,100 of them.  My top earnings month was last December.  I just ended October doubling what I had previously made in my top earning month.  I will be one happy camper if November and/or December are anything like October.

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    Rosie2010posted 12 years ago

    My traffic dropped from 1600 to 700 during Oct 22nd weekend, and is holding there by a thread.  Still, October was my 'bestest' earning month on my first year here on Hubpages... combined earnings from Adsense, HPAds and Amazon = $224.  That's quite amazing for me, considering I earned zero on my first month.

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       David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Sound like your doing well! I'm trying to hit 500-600 dollars this month November.

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          Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          thanks, David, and you are doing great.

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    David 470posted 12 years ago

    When you guys speak of your total traffic, are you counting just your impressions or all the impressions (60% of your impressions and 40% of HubPages)????

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       wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Neither one.  While I will often use HP stats for a 24 hour period, I usually use analytics for anything else.
       
       In very basic terms, HP stats are everything except slide show views (of which I get a lot) while anaytics are the 60% of everything including slide shows. 
       
       At least that's the best I've every come up with to describe what I see in all those numbers.

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    Beth Pipeposted 12 years ago

    It's encouraging to hear.  This is my first full month and I've got 34 cents so far.  I know I've a looooong way to go yet, but I'll get there - everyone has to start somewhere!

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    pstraubie48posted 12 years ago

    Cool. I do not completely understand the whole earnings end of Hubpages; have not taken enough time to investigate thoroughly. I made a few dollars in several areas last month and in Sept. but apparently not enough to receive pay. Maybe I will learn.
    I have been on eight weeks and love to write; however, being padi would be nice. Good for you.

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    Richieb799posted 12 years ago

    Hey Dave, the way things are going I should make payout in a week..haven't been able to do a lot on my personal stuff today because I've been designing a webpage for a client...I hate CSS, much prefer the old HTML!

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    Janet21posted 12 years ago

    My hub traffic was hit with the first Panda update, then traffic spiked up at the end of July.  On Aug 10, it plunged and that is where it is today.  I am getting about 900 visits/day.  At my high, I was getting close to 4K/day.  My earnings have dropped from over 1K a month to about $400 this month.  I would have to go back to Nov 2009 to find earnings lower than what I made here in October. 
    
    Rather than waste more of my time trying to figure out why this has happened, I am taking a break from Hubpages.  I still update hubs when necessary, but I have moved on from HP as far as building any new ones.  I spend my time writing on my blogs and on other platforms that are more profitable for me right now.  For instance, on Squidoo, October was a record earnings month for me. 
    
    On another note, I also think that the plungers are in the majority, but not everyone posts in the forum.

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    HikeGuyposted 12 years ago

    Rosie -- Congrats! I'm happy to hear you're doing so well. So good to see happy news.

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       Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       thanks, HikeGuy! 

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          PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, well done, Rosie! 

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             Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks, Paul!  My traffic has recovered too, partly because of my Amazon hubs.  Merry Christmas!

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    rmcrayneposted 12 years ago

    My traffic and earnings have doubled from last Nov.

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       livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    taviasylumposted 12 years ago

    well done but can you explain it properly?

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    barryrutherfordposted 12 years ago

    I posted a hub last week on my 2011 earnings so far

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    dumindu89posted 12 years ago

    Hey.. liverpool nice to hear your achievements.
    I'm bit struggling to get traffic to my hubs. Any suggestions?

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    daisynicolasposted 12 years ago

    Aaarrghh...Need help on to even earn a dollar since I don't have any income.  What other techniques do you have besides what has been posted in all the forums and learning center???

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       livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I would make sure your Hubs:
       
       - Have search-friendly titles (i.e. what people are actively searching for answers on, not what might appeal to them in a "hmmm...seems interesting, would have never thought about this unless you told me about it" way)
       
       - Have a lot of useful content on each Hub (your own pictures, data tables, etc.). Your Hubs should strive to be better than what Google puts at the top when you google the search term you're targeting.
       
       - Share your Hubs on Facebook and/or Twitter, and maybe add a link in a relevant blog post if you have another blog, from time to time

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    I think maybe this thread was meant to shed encouragement to new hubbers.
    
    
    It just makes me feel like shite.
    I am signing off after this, going to my bed, sleeping, and maybe in my dreams I will learn what I did wrong.
    
    I spent two years of my life writing here.
    
    Maybe I'm a crap writer - hey tell me so if I am.
    
    I started on one late last night and it has continued today. I've unpublished all my best hubs now, as well as my hubs that never saw traffic.
    
    Don't listen to me, newbies, there are so many other encouraging hubbers.
    The HP platform is a great idea, and it works well for some.
    
    For others you can find yourself  with an unrealistic expectation.
    
    Treat it as it comes, and good luck

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Nope, you're no crap writer!
       
       I can't claim to understand why you're in a seemingly permanent sandbox - but poor writing and poor subject matter ain't it.

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       David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Right IzzyM, HubPages is a great platform.
       
       When I firsrt started righting on here (seriously) in 2010, I barely made any traffic/income. I went from a few dollars a month to several hundred.
       
       It took me nearly over a year to get to the level that I am. Some days I think it's hard to believe.
       
       Truth is, I never spoke too much about what I was doing to my family because they woud prob say that it is not possible to make several hundred or more a month online. However, this is not some stupid filling out survey crap -- it's writing content -- writing articles from scratch!! I did not tell anyone because I knew it would take away from my motivation and I would not reach my goals.
       
       If I would of given up after Google Panda (AND i did to some degree), I would of never seen the "true potential" of this site.
       
       More of my family know that I make money here, but prob do not understand it. My Uncle actually recently found out from me and he was quite surprised when I told him I did not even write one article this month and still made money. (my laptop broke -- got a new one now).
       
       I still have a long road ahead of me. I am going to try video editing and other projects most likely in this year 2012.
       
       Honestly, I do not consider myself that great of a writer, just mediocre. I see a lot of typos on my old articles and feel ashamed of them.
       
       I'm not even sure how I have the patience to write. I never read books as a kid -- in fact I disliked the idea. But for some reason, I have something inside me that makes it fairly easy to write. Perhaps it is because I am fairly introverted and things like this do not bore me or make me unmotivated as some people.
       
       While it is possible to make money here on HubPages, you will likely see many failures, but through those failures success may come out somewhere.
       
       I had an article that I NEVER expected to recieve 1000 views daily, and then still over a year later recieve 200+ or so a day.
       
       The best thing I can tell new writers is TO KEEP AT IT! Even if something does not work -- it does not mean that something else won't! Figure out what works for you and expand upon it!
       
       LEARN SEO
       LEARN HOW TO WRITE FOR THE READERS AND SEARCH ENGINES
       STAY PATIENT AND DETERMINED
       EXPERIEMENT!
       
       There is a lot more I would like to say, but this post would be too long....I am done rambling...

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       livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I agree that you're a talented writer, so that's clearly not it.
       
       It's impossible to know exactly what Google found objectionable (if that's the right word) about your Hubs, but there is a Learning Center entry about this phenomenon:
       http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Subd … of-Traffic
       
       My very personal opinion is that anything that looks like a doorway page (designed to funnel you to another site, the "buy [blank] online" Hubs) is a bit like playing with fire. They can be lucrative if you get good rankings, but they might also piss Google off because they are arguably deceptive, since you don't actually buy anything off a Hub. This is just my impression; I could be wrong. I avoid writing these kinds of Hubs for this very reason.

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          David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I never wrote  many of those "buy [blank] online" Hubs. I think many people who write those are trying to make money with Amazon or already are.
          
          I have some old hubs that have a lot of typos, though. Wish it was easier to sort through over 200+ hubs
          
          Sometimes I find it hard to believe that some hubs that I worked hard on were unsuccessful, while the ones that were easier to write were more successful. It's not always like that, however.

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    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    Right well this a reply to You David, I need to say that because I have chosen not to quote your long reply.
    
    Somehow or other you hit gold. I am not looking to see because I am  not a thief.
    
    The thieves will look and see what they can emulate.
    
    You say you weren't educated. What would happen the if an educated person came along and chose to re-write your hubs into their words?
    
    Would you know?
    
    This internet stuff is a huge learning curve, and you have to keep one step ahead of all the plagiarists and wannabes.
    
    It's too fast for me. I'm outta here.

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       David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I am just trying to motivate people - perhaps I should not post stuff like this because there are corrupt people out there.
       
       It is not that I am not educated, I graduated High School and took some college classes.
       
       However, I was never "the kid that read books." But whenever I had to write an essay at school I did it with ease. Same with College, essays did not stress me out like it did to some people.
       
       Of course I read books that were required to be read, but other than that I did not read on my own.
       
       Most of my reading I do today is reading articles.

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          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          And that is worth stressing to new peeps. You don't need to be a published writer here. Good luck David,long may it continue:)

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             David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks, good luck to you in the new year as well.

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             PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             It's strange and disturbing what has happened with you, Izzy.  I hope that 2012 is much better!

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                IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Thank you Paul, but I am not holding my breath.

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    freefoggingposted 12 years ago

    I haven't earned a cent here at Hubpages, but I think I am doing something wrong. I am going to start studying others hubs that are the high earners and figure out that way what I am doing wrong. I write on Helium also , but I know that I can make more here at Hubpages if I can get the hang of what I need to change to make more money.

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       2uesdayposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I know it is an odd question but have you signed up to the HubPages earning programme and/or Adsense?
       
       Even if you struggled to make money with adsense I would have thought you would have earned at least a few cents with the HubPages ads. programme since it started.

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       Millionaire Tipsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       freefogging, If I remember correctly, I wasn't able to get my Adsense active until I added a avatar on my profile. 
       
       Add the avatar, and check your Account tab, click on my earnings, then settings.  They should say "active" for the ones you are participating in.

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