six amazing things OWS Has Accomplished already.

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   claptonaposted 12 years ago

   Might want to read some of the posts coming from those within OWS - have seen those demands more than once.
     Problem is, specifics are very short coming from OWS.
     B of A would have lost that battle with or without OWS.
     Wells Fargo was the first big one to do that with a $3.00 charge, and they got a lot of slack.
     B of A just wen over the top with the $5.00 per month.
     If OWS had some clout, they would shut the bank down due to the derivative moves from B of A's Merill Lynch devision to their bank devision, putting the company at great risk for seeking another tax payer bailout. But, I guess that is to complicated for OWS.
   This is way more dire than a $5.00 fee, but never attacked, mentioned or discussed within OWS.
     OWS is trying to convey the 60's hippie agenda, or this is the way it appears from their diatribes on social networking sites.
     Good luck with the sale of "The things OWS has accomplished" Maybe getting a political media mouth piece will help.
     Cheers

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   Ralph Deedsposted 12 years ago

   Here's a mouthpiece--"We Are the Many" Makana
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3BYw4xjxE

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   emrldphxposted 12 years ago

   It's not that we think we'll never run out of oil. It's that we know we have enough that we don't have to cripple ourselves while we work on new things.
   
   And we're not going to destroy the planet by using oil. CO2 follows temperature, it doesn't drive it.

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   Pcunixposted 12 years ago

   I give up.  The responses from the resident Conservative Rightists are too astonishing to counter.
   
   These are the ideas and ideals that will destroy us, but no amount of reasoning can get through to them.  They can't see it, they won't see it.
   
   I'll try not to let the storm door slam too loudly on my way out of this thread.

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      emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So, in other words, you don't have any ideas for solutions to what you think the problem is, or any supporting evidence to back up your claims of raping the environment?

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         Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Nope.  Nada.  Nothing.  I am emotionally and intellectually bankrupt.   I have nothing to refute your arguments with. 
         
         See ya around.

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            uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The first step of 12.  Accept this and move on to the next step.  You will find happiness when you finally realize that liberalism is a seductive and dysfunctional position.

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               emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Was step 2 sarcasm? Or is that a step in the wrong direction?

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               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               :-)
               
               Yes, I am very dysfunctional.   I must move along now, though.  One of my major character flaws is that I lack the patience to continue conversations like this.

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               Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hey thanks, UCV.
               Now you've given me an idea for a hub.
               Although, no one will read it, because those who actually NEED to apply the 12 Steps to their political beliefs are too deep in denial to be willing to change their viewpoints or even recognize how dangerous/self-destructive they are.
               

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                  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I am in denial..
                  
                  Please  do write that hub.

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                     Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     You are so NOT in denial.
                     But I probably will write it anyway and see who turns up.
                     A lot will depend on crafting a catchy title.
                     What do you think of "At last, help for Foxaholics..."

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                  uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you mean Californians?  Because I cannot think of a single political action from 2010 than return Jerry Brown to the California governors office.

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                     Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Old Jerry's doing a righteous job and Gavin's heir apparent.
                     And even Meg made out like a bandit and took over Carly's spot.
                     There's a nice symmetry to it all.
                     
                     No, I definitely did NOT mean Californians.
                     Nor did I mean Pcunix

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                        uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I there is one delusion among liberals that helps divide them from conservatives and reality.  That there exists a useful source of energy as potent as petroleum.  That is a powerful delusion that threatens all humanity.  But, unlike most conservatives, I want you to get your way.  I want the success of liberalism. Not the half success of it, not the incremental success but total, thorough and complete success.
                        
                        It is only through liberalism succeeding - like it did in the USSR - that people will come to understand what a disaster it is.

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                           John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Liberalism - USSR!
                           
                           Can I have some of what you are taking?
                           On second thoughts, I'd rather stick with reality, thanks.

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                              uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Good to hear from you John - I thought the authorities had finally caught up to you.  Missed you.  Let me know what cake you like.  I will gladly bake a file into anything you like - even a pie.

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Reasoning - REASONING  - did you mean to use that word?  I would have though PRONOUNCEMENTS would have been better or ASSERTIONS.  But reasoning isn't at all apparent in anything you have written here.

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         Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Of course not.  Liberals never reason.  Only Conservatives are capable of that.
         
         Nice chatting with you, as usual.  I'd love to say you give me hope for the world, but truly it's rather the opposite.
         
         Drill, baby, drill!

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            uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            This amuses me.  Offering personal pronouncements as if they were fact and reason.  Funny, there are those who say "we" when they mean "I."   As in "We" have decided when they really mean "I."
            
            It is equally amusing when reasons are offered liberals revert to type.

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               Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               UCV, you appear so hung up on the "liberals" vs "whatever you profess to be"  that your posts have become highly amusing. As if they were fact and reason. It is equally amusing when reasons are offered, the unrestrained right reverts to type.

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                  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Sssh.  He doesn't know he is amusing us.  None of them ever do.

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                     emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     That's ironic

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                        Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        No, it's REALLY ironic that you think it is ironic.  But never mind.. :-)

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                           emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           It's ironic that you say we don't know that we amuse you, when you don't seem to know that you amuse us.
                           
                           And I use the words 'we' and 'us' loosely here to illustrate a point.

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                              Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Actually, you bore me! Night all.

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                                 emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Good night.
                                 
                                 When you wake up, I have a suggestion. If something bores you, don't read it

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                                 emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Good night.
                                 
                                 When you wake up, I have a suggestion. If something bores you, don't read it

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                           Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           LOLOL,
                           
                           NO NO NO!!!
                           
                           It's ironic that you think it's ironic that he thinks it's ironic that I think it's ironic that he thinks it's ironic that Obama thinks it's ironic that my pet guinea pig thinks it's ironic that he thinks it's ironic that monkeys are ironic that ironing irons are ironic!!!
                           
                           Let's all get the last word in! That'll change minds!

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                              Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              The pig thinks that?
                              
                              Well ok, then.  I'm good with that.

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   emrldphxposted 12 years ago

   Maybe I should write a guide to liberalism.
   
   L: Drilling is bad.
   
   "What should we do instead"
   
   L: Something else.

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years ago

   I find that the whole "left" and "right" ideologues are no different than the dichotomy between the fundamentalist and the all out irrational Dawkins atheist.
   
   Satire is the best way to get someone's attention, as it rather deviously forces it's target to see something that they probably didn't wish to see.
   
   Not that I'm any good at that...but gosh if we don't have some jack booted ones among us here!

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      Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm also a rational Dawkins atheist.
      
      Oh.  You said "irrational".
      
      Never mind..

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         emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Atheist as in you don't think God exists or you think God doesn't exist?
         
         One can be rational, the other is delusional.

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            Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Atheist as in I know any god is impossible.  There are no such things.  Thinking anything else is delusional.

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               emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Ah, I was worried about that.
               
               What makes God impossible? Did you come to that conclusion based on science, logic, or personal experience?

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                  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Off topic and I'd have no interest in responding to you anyway.  I don't mean you specifically.  I mean in general :-)

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         Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Pcunix, you are wasting your breath here! It is better to permit the deluded to wallow in the bliss that is denial. Your energy will be better spent with thinkers.

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            Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yes.  Exactly my feeling :-)

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               Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I am also an atheist, however, i have no problem with those that believe, neither group has absolute proof one way or another. My problem,  is with those that profess to be Christian, but are the most intolerant, sanctimonious bunch of judgemental bigots, who place no value on human life, feel they have the right to shout down anyone that believes in human rights-(or thinks!) and believe they have the right to do so because that's what God would have wanted.

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                  emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  'Hollie, you are going to burn for eternity because you are an atheist'
                  
                  You mean those kind of theists? I can't stand them either

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                     Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Yep, those kind. But also the "type" that claim they care about the human race, yet employ any method to vilify, discredit and generally slur individuals that attempt to make the world a more equitable place. Ie. OWS protesters, they are not rapists, thieves or here to trash parks. They are people, young, middle aged and old, that are wise enough to know that HUMAN BEINGS-should not starve and become homeless, to pay for the sins of the greedy, war mongering elite, who incidentally, believe that water should be traded in the future. I'm sure that'll go down well in Africa!

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years ago

   What's that they say in "hip hop" culture? 
   
   Haters gonna hate!
   
   LOL!  GOP thugs are ....thugs.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   "MARO and R2P, especially the training and special assistance to coalition partners, are being used by the Pentagon and CIA to beef up the U.S. military and intelligence presence at bases in east Africa and the Horn of Africa, ostensibly to protect Somalis from Al Shabab Islamist guerrillas. In fact, a virtual invading force of U.S. Special Operations forces, CIA operatives, and private military contractors have descended on the region, under the aegis of the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), to prop up local armies in order to secure a developing western oil and natural as production infrastructure, including pipelines and oil sea terminals in the area. Drone, intelligence collection, and U.S. special forces and training bases have been established at Camp Lemonier in Djibouti; Victoria, Seychelles; Manda Bay, Kenya; Bujumbura, Burundi; Entebbe, Uganda; Mogadishu, Somalia; and Arba Minch, Ethiopia."

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   molometerposted 12 years ago

   Wow this is amazing stuff Wesman. It's getting like the 60's out there lol

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    molometerposted 12 years ago

    I guess they may like this too.
    http://molometer.hubpages.com/_r6mvzzzh … n-Overhaul

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    rlaframboiseposted 12 years ago

    Cartman on south park put it best. "The 99% blames the one percent because they don't feel comfortable blaming a black president".

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