If you think God is impossible...

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   emrldphxposted 12 years ago

   This is directed to people who think they know that there is no such thing as God.
   
   I would be interested in hearing your thoughts. Do you base your belief off of science, logic, personal experience, or something else?

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      Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Logic.  I have a hub about it.  But what difference does it make?  That hub won't change anyone's mind.  I wrote it for my own amusement and for the amusement of other atheists.
      
      I don't mind if you have delusions about supernatural things.  I have my own delusions.  For example, I like to believe that the evil of religion is at least balanced off by the good.  I don't know that to be true and I know no way to measure "good" vs. "evil", so that is a delusion.  It makes me happier to believe it.  If believing in some god thing makes you happy, that's fine - well, until you start telling me that your delusion expects me to behave in a certain way.,

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         emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I thought I had commented on that hub... maybe I didn't...
         
         Eh, if you don't want to discuss that's fine

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            Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You may have. I delete most comments by the religious.  My hub, my rules.

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               emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Who said I'm religious?
               
               Just because I find flaws in your logic doesn't make me religious?

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                  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Then I deleted it because I didn't think it was worth posting, perhaps.  Or maybe you never did post.  If you care, try again.

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                     emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Or maybe because you couldn't refute me pointing out your illogical arguments.
                     
                     I'm not going to try again on your hub, I'm fairly certain you would simply not approve it. That's what usually happens.

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                        Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Right.  That was it.  I couldn't refute your arguments.
                        
                        Ayup.   That HAD to be it.

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                           emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Ok, I'll make a thread and you can work at it there.

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                              Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Not interested.

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                                 Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 So, you've logically come to the conclusion that a Supreme entity could not exist, but you're not willing to debate it openly? I envision a little dutch boy here.

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                                    Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Been there, done that.  No interest in revisiting it with another bunch of religious folk.

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                                       Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Too bad. We've got a guy here who claims he can prove God exists. I don't get his logic, but it would have been  fun watching the two arguments collide. Clash of the Titans, right here on Hub Pages.

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                                          emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          I hope you're not referring to me. I can't prove that God exists. I can just show the fallacy of any argument trying to prove that God does/doesn't exist.
                                          
                                          In our current state, it's unknowable.(Not on a personal level, but on an objective level).

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                                             Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             No, not you. But if you started a thread and someone posted the impossibility I'm sure the person with the other argument would chime in.
                                             
                                             I consider   much of what I've read of your philosophical musings simpatico with mine. So, of course, I consider you smart and exceptionally deep. 
                                             
                                             Unless you start in on answered prayers, proof of God or miracles. Then, I'd have to raise an eyebrow.

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                                                emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                Answered prayer, miracles, and proof of God I leave up to the individual. I personally think I have proof of God(for myself only), but I'm not going to try and prove God to exist because of that, because it's not an argument that could hold up.
                                                
                                                Like I always say, tomorrow the butterfly that is dreaming me into existence might wake up.

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                                    emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    He can't be bothered to support his claims. See, this is what happens, and you can see it in any of these 'there is no god' or 'there is a god' threads I've posted in.
                                    
                                    When I point out illogical arguments, my comments get deleted.
                                    
                                    It's weird. Almost as if some people welcome weak arguments, but can't be bothered to deal with strong arguments.

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                                       Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Ri--i-gth.    That's it.  Your arguments are irrefutable.  In every thread I've ever seen you post in, in fact.
                                       
                                       Irrefutable.

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                                          emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          We'll see Pcunix.
                                          
                                          I'm sure you'll just ignore the thread, or say you can't be bothered.

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                                             Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             Let me say it once more and maybe you'll get it this time.
                                             
                                             I've been there.  Right here on HubPages, right here in the religious forums.  I posted the argument that I later turned into a hub and we went up and down it and over and under six ways from Sunday AND I HAVE NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER IN DOING IT AGAIN!
                                             
                                             Capisci?

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                                                emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                I understand. You're right, and anyone who disagrees is wrong. And stupid.
                                                
                                                I get it.

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         MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I love you.  Just thought you should know that.

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            Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And you love me

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               MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I do... remember, I'm bi-sexual... apparently that means I love EVERYBODY!
               
               Don't worry though, although I have just discovered my love for Pcunix doesn't lessen my love for you.  You are still my back-up husband and first online girl crush.

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                  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I've always thought as myself as straight, but I can still love man and woman. I will always be your back up husband and I love Pcunix, too. This is mass utopia of love. Although not a Christian, if I was, I think this would come close to heavenly.

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                  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Sssh.  You are really going to upset our host.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know for sure if there is such a thing as gods but it certainly appears no such thing exists.
      
      Science: A number of theories and laws would be violated if gods existed. Can a god violate them? Sure. Nonetheless, they would still be violated.
      
      Logic: Logic would also dictate gods don't exist by the sheer fact that there is nothing distinguishable between how the laws of the universe govern themselves and the reality we live.
      
      Personal experiences: Useless if they cannot be representative to references of gods. How are those experiences distinguished from anything else if no references are available?
      
      The only reference that is relevant in the real world is, "God made man in his own image"
      
      Unfortunately, evolution would show us that contrarily.

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   My lab rat status conclusion is based on all of the above.

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      emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Care to elaborate?

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         paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Absolutely everything we do to animals for experimentation purposes is also being done to us. The parallels are so uncanny and blatant that it is impossible to discount as a mere coincidence. If we were lab rats to be experimented on, then what is being done to us is exactly how it would be done.

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            emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            If I'm going to be a lab rat, I want some cheese!
            
            *walks to the fridge*
            
            

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            Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Interestng theory. It makes you wonder if the rats think they've been abducted by aliens. I can hear the few who escaped in the sewers now; trying to warn the rest. And being laughed at.

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               emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Or, maybe they are getting book deals?

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                  Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  It's possible. Whichever rodent wrote Secret of Nimh is probably  still knee deep in cheese.

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                  paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yours is the answer, i.e.: first, gain the experimenter's attention (I have no idea how); second, impress (I have no idea how) or offer something of value (I have no idea what) to the experimenter; third, seek an improvement in one's situation.

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                     emrldphxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm good at shining shoes...

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            pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            What experimentation? What parallels?

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   I've never really understood trying to prove or to disprove the existence of God. It's all about faith and choice. I choose to believe, but if others don't, that's their business.

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