TMMason cant win an argument so he gets people banned instead

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    Creationisforkidsposted 12 years ago

    As the title says

    1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
      Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Classic. :L I got banned for a day and made "PhilosophyScience" to talk, I'm not sure if it was TMMason or AKA-Dj who I called an idiot, I'm not sure, neither do I care. Nice forum though :L

  2. paradigmsearch profile image59
    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    I sense sockpuppet here...

    1. profile image52
      Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yup. If someones gonna ban me when they dont like what Im saying when I am being restrained and not throwing any insults then im just gonna create socks and say whatever I want.

      Ban me some more, I dont care. I get banned for being polite so to hell with it. Im gonna say whatever I want.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image59
        paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Actually, TMMason is starting to grow on me. lol

        1. IzzyM profile image86
          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You and me both, then! I read a thread this morning with both you and him, and I was cracking up!

          Thank you, thank you, we all need some laughs in our lives smile

          1. TMMason profile image59
            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You know I do not mind humor, and Paradi was being humorous.

            The point is we can all debate without name calling and attacks... and then we should be able to get along while we are not debating.

            We know we do not all agree with one another... we all cry about war and hate... but not many try to leave the anger in the debate floor and be nice to the other while we are not debating.

            Not many at all.

            I feel most times like there are teams here, and truly they act more like gangs at times. We are all on the same side in the end, I think... we all want a better future and a better way. The debate is over how to accomplish that... but what good does it do if we kill one another before we can figure it out?

            1. IzzyM profile image86
              IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I actually can't remember which side of the fence you are on, but one thing I will say for HP's forums is that I never knew there were so many difficulties over religion in the US, as are shown here.

              The only way to avoid potentially nasty situations is to stay off the religious forums, which is what I do, normally.

              But I loved your reply to para this morning. It showed a really nice of you, a human side, a  fun side even.

              I don't think you wrote it to show that. I think you wrote because it is part of your real character, and hey I like you because of it.

              1. TMMason profile image59
                TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I have been known to have fun every now and then.

                Like I said, no problem joking around.

                And I am not innocent of losing my calm either. As I said I just got back from a 4 month suspension.

                I know the feeling.

          2. paradigmsearch profile image59
            paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm considering following him.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

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        The HP Staff would not have banned you unless you broke their rules, so you got yourself banned

        You can read the rules here

        http://hubpages.com/help/forum_rules

        This one is interesting and falls under Multiple Accounts

        ...........The use of secondary accounts to circumvent a forum ban is also prohibited.

        1. profile image52
          Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I beg to differ. I didnt say anything that would constitute a personal attack.

          Not like the last time I got banned for saying

          "I have met saner people than you in a mental home".

          That was a personal attack but Im fairly sure I havent made any at all this week.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

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            So you didn't call someone a blithering idiot?

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              Ban meposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I got banned before that

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    Emile Rposted 12 years ago

    I got banned once. But the person I was talking to isn't the one who got me banned. There are some things you are apparently not allowed to say. Even when joking. Anyone can report it. You don't know if it was him, or not. Why make accusations you can't prove?

    1. profile image52
      Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That may be but if the site owners are gonna ban me when I dont insult anyone or throw any personal attacks then I'm just gonna say whatever I want.

      If they dont like it, tough.

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        Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Ok. But wouldn't it make more sense to learn the rules and stay within them?

        1. profile image52
          Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I didnt insult anyone so what was I banned for?

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            Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Give me the link to the comment. I'd like to know why you were banned.

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              Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I dont know which comment its they dont tell you

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                Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Well, tell me the thread. This has gotten my curiosity up. You guys are having way too much fun on the late night forums.

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                  Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  They dont say which they just say,posts on the forum

  4. TMMason profile image59
    TMMasonposted 12 years ago

    Hippy if you got yourself banned then that is your problem.

    Do not blame me because your not smart enough to stay calm and make an actaul case without insulting people.

    If I wanted to get someone banned I would have reported Para at 3am this morning... but he is still here isn't he.

    You two or three act like rabid dogs because I will not believe you and I rebutt your claims with valid facts and sources... and then cry about being banned.

    What a laugh.

    Suck it up I just got back from a four month ban.

    1. profile image52
      Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thats interesting and also very antagonising and condescending.

      1. TMMason profile image59
        TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        You seem to have an issue with all facts.

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          Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You seem to have an issue understanding what a fact is. You seem to be under the delusion that an opinion is a fact if the person is qualified.

          1. TMMason profile image59
            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So you can state your OPINION, and source science for the facts to attempt to prove it and that is great.

            My sources though cannot express their opinion, and they cannot draw from the same science as you, and support thier conclusions with it, because that is not good in your opinion.

            To bad.

            Do you see the contradiction in that? Probrably not.

            Your opinions are just that Hippy, OPINIONS. As with the sources you use.

            And the sources I use opinions, are thiers.

            they interpret the same evidence as you and come to just as valid a conclusion as you, if not more valid consdering thier degrees and education... unless you have 7 degrees which encompuss things including biology, psychology, and evaluation and research, and have taught biology, microbiology, biochemistry, and human anatomy at the college level and is a research associate involved in research in the area of cancer genetics.

            I mean. What authority do you claim that places your opinion and understanding of the facts over his, or the other sources I have used?

            1. profile image52
              Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I didnt state my opinion regarding evolution. I simply told you about the verifiable facts that I have studied that you can see for yourself.

              You're the one who posted a list of scientists who dont believe in evolution as if thats supposed to help your argument and then some links from biblescience.com and other biased creationist sites.

              All of which contained nothing but opinions and conjecture. No verifiable tests or evidence at all.

              I gave you a link to a report about the scientists that created living DNA strands artificially and you go on about some guy I never heard of.

              You havent the slightest clue what you are talking about. You dont even get the subject right. You just bang on about the same thing over and over as if repetition makes it correct.

              1. TMMason profile image59
                TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                And I have told you those are not varifiable facts.

                It is not a varifiable fact that the fossil record proves evolution.

                No... you are expressing your opinion that from what you have seen ape to human evolution is real.

                Good for you.

                Alot of well qualified people see those same facts, fossil record, Melecular biology, Neural biology, and so many other fields findings... and reach the opposite conclusion.

                You do not seem to be able to handle that.

                But it is a fact.

                Are there things in the theory of evolution that are fact... yes.

                Does that make the theory of evolution, ape to man, fact... not in the least... NO.

                It is a simple thing to understand man.

                Abiogenesis is unsupportable and un-proven... no one has ever created life... another fact you ignore.

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                  Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Maybe I shouldve said evidence rather then prove.



                  Actually I never said that in any form. You're probably thinkig about what someone said and assuming that I am everyone you ever spoke to.



                  DNA has been SEEN to mutate and evolve.

                  Evolution is FACT.

                  It has been tested AGAIN and AGAIN.

                  The DNA even did exaclty what was expected according to the theory of natural selection.



                  It is a fact that they disagree yes but who cares about their opinion. It happens. It has been observed in a lab and evolution is FACT.



                  MAN IS AN APE you blithering idiot.

                  Oh you added that noone has ever created life.

                  YES THEY HAVE. THEY STUDIED IT AND IT EVOLVED IN 2010

                  Funny that. It was all over the news and you missed it.

                  1. paradigmsearch profile image59
                    paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Alert! Alert! Alert!

                  2. TMMason profile image59
                    TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    I saw them re-animate RNA... is that what you are referring to?

                    And you are simply showing everyone here what you are truly like.

                    So keep it up.

                  3. TMMason profile image59
                    TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes evolution does exist. We settled that already. Just not in the way you want to claim.

                    You are one of them that rant about the over-arching evolution of all things from a common anestor... blah blah blah. That is not proven, niether is it proven that man evolved from apes. Not at all.

                    And no one has created life from nothing in a lab.

                  4. TMMason profile image59
                    TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    What would you call that?

                2. A Troubled Man profile image57
                  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL! Hey Hippy, there's no reason to get banned or angry when believers are spouting this kind of nonsense.

                  Sure, grown adults can be as moronic as the day is long but they won't get banned for being morons. It is your duty to simply point out the silliness and have a hearty laugh about it.

                  And yes, we know how dangerous religions are to societies and how much damage they have done to mankind and continue to do, but getting banned doesn't help you to remedy that situation. smile

        2. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
          Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hahaha TMMason gets all the facts and science he needs from the bible!

          Say, if one man and two boys can build gigantic ships housing thousands if not millions of animals for months at a time, perhaps all creationsists should make these ships and get very rich and powerful!

          That'll show everyone the true power of God!

          1. TMMason profile image59
            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            What make you think Noah was poor? What makes you think Noah didn't hire any help? You think God would ask him to do that and not bless him with monies and resources to accomplish the job?

            You do not think this through much, do you?

            1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
              Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Oooooh so Noah said:

              "Hey, I'm gonna build this GIAAANT boat so I can save me and my family from this GIAAANT flood that is going to kill you and everyone else because you're impure (Eugenics MUCH!?) and I'm not *Smug Noah Face*, unfortunately, there's no room for you on the boat because I've got to fit these 23,000 animals on there.. sorry? Maybe we can talk later about this in heaven but right now, the boat?"
              Oh fiddle sticks, wait, actually, you're going to be going to hell because God created you faulty :S I guess I'll send an E-mail when they invent them, soz. Enjoy eternal damnation, I hear they have a lot of team sports down there? That's... great.. Oh? You're more of a solo player? Well... this is awkward sad

              Ooh and God blessed him with super powers? Ahhh that's some mighty good science right there, why didn't I think of that!?!

              1. TMMason profile image59
                TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Actually there would have been plenty of room.

                And the people would have done as they did, laughed and scoffed, but I assure you they would have taken his money. If the crazy old guy wants to pay me to help build a boat in the desert... fine pay me.

                What is so strange about that?

                Why would he need super powers to build an ark?

                Are you for real? Where did you see anything about super-powers?

                Money talks... even back then.

                And 23000, or maybe as few as 17000, it is about time you agree to the number and are not claiming millions. Think about the size of the ark, approx 2 football fields long, 3/4 to a whole football fileld wide and four or five stories high.

                Pretty damn big. And it could have taken years, decades. Alot of work, but men have built massive things in our time.

                So what would be the big deal?

                1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
                  Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  These people were brutally murdered by a tidal wave? Because they were impure?

                  They must have all been murderers and so surely if they were that bad they would have just killed Noah and taken his money? Why would people bad enough to be painfully murdered work for money?

                  I don't think that paid labourers deserve to be eradicated because they like and work for money, do you? God obviously does hahaha!

                  You said "Blessed Noah" as in "gave Noah superpowers".

                  What else can "bless" mean!? Noah just suddenly gains great knowledge and power? Why doesn't God just BUILD the arc himself? Pahahahahaha

                  Money talks? Wow, the Bible just gets more and more abstract!...

                  The big deal would be how Noah knew how to build a giant and never before seen ship with no prior engineering knowledge!?

                  1. aka-dj profile image65
                    aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Hhhhmmm.
                    So, where do you suppose he got the idea, and the plans from?

                    You don't suppose that the same God who instructed him to build it might know?

                    I guess not. Your puny god couldn't get himself out of a wet paper bag, I guess.  lol lol lol

          2. aka-dj profile image65
            aka-djposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Televangelists make millions of dollars, but instaed of claiming they demonstrate the power of God, you all call them charlatans and con artists.

            You can't be pleased, can you?

            1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
              Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

              They can call upon the power of God and that's what they do with their time.. wow.

      2. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
        Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Hahahaha

  5. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 12 years ago

    I've just re-read the title of this thread and wish to only say that one member cannot get another member banned, unless forum rules were broken.

    You can argue against what someone says, you can say his argument is a fairytale (or substitute another word) but you cannot make an attack on him or her as a person.

    So if you call him a 'spider' - banned.

    If you say his argument is like a spider, not banned.

    Substitute any word you choose, even a friendly word, because you cannot accuse anyone of anything, if they are a person.

    You can only argue over their opinion.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image59
      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I like your purple prose.

    2. profile image52
      Creationisforkidsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You're a spider

      1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
        Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Pahah (+1)

  6. paradigmsearch profile image59
    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before." - Mae West

    1. Philanthropy2012 profile image83
      Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And that's exactly how the Dodo became extinct sad

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