Can the LDS Church accidently become Christian?

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   passingthewordposted 12 years ago

   With Lds church change their views every so often (Modern day revelation). Can they change all of the cultish views and become Christian?

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      JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Haha, nice try. They are Christian.
      
      Is 'changing your views' mean you can't be Christian? Bye-Bye Catholic Church then.

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         passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         ok, But they are not Christian. More like a cult.

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            JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
            
            Belief in the Bible.
            
            Belief in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
            
            Belief in Christ as the Savior.
            
            I'd say they qualify.

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               passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               You don't believe in the bible
               The 8th article of faith from the Mormon Church states, "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly."  This means that when the Bible contradicts Mormonism, the Bible isn't trustworthy
               
               What Jesus do you believe?
               "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ
               
               Jesus is not you savior for all sins.
               
               There are sins that can be atoned for by an offering upon an altar, as in ancient days; and there are sins that the blood of a lamb, or a calf, or of turtle dove, cannot remit
               
               
               I does not qualify to me.

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                  JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Take a history lesson on the bible. For 1000 years, the bible was controlled 100% by a group that was more powerful than any government on earth. A group that was violently taken over at times by other countries. A group that allowed people to pay money to absolve their sins in advance.
                  
                  There was no unanimous vote on what should go into and stay out of the bible. There are no original texts for us to see what the true meaning is. The bible contradicts itself in several places.
                  
                  Of course the Bible isn't infallible, but you don't have to believe it is perfect to believe in it.
                  
                  They believe in the Biblical Christ.
                  
                  
                  Christ is the Savior for all sins(minus the unforgiveable sin), can you counter that with LDS teaching?

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                     passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     There you go putting the bible down. Mormons always do that to make the book of mormon look good.
                     Don't you think that God is big enough to take care of his own word. True they is falsehood out there (like the LDS Church) but God said that His word will never pass away.
                     So you are basically calling God a liar
                     
                     to the 3rd statement   "?"
                     
                     No they don't. where in the Bible does it say that Jesus had kids wives and so on.
                     
                     They is only one unforgivable sin. blaspheming against the holy spirit at Satan’s return. But BY taught
                     
                     (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 53-54);
                     
                     There are sins that can be atoned for by an offering upon an altar, as in ancient days; and there are sins that the blood of a lamb, or a calf, or of turtle dove, cannot remit
                     LDS are not Christians. now back to my question.

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                        JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm not a Mormon, I just happen to have studied Mormon theology, as well as the history of the Catholic Church and the Bible.
                        
                        It's not putting down the Bible to admit that it has mistakes. You can't deny that it does. At the very least, you have to admit that it contradicts itself when it says 'Mr. X did Y when he was 20', and later says 'Mr. X did Y when he was 24'. There is no reconciling that, it can't both be right.
                        
                        Ok, you explain the contradictions in the Bible then.
                        
                        What are you going on about? LDS doesn't have an official stance on that.
                        
                        Yes, I know your fondness for the Journal of Discourses, no matter who is reporting what, where it was said, how truthful it is, or how out-of-context it is.
                        
                        Every church has teachings that are contradicted by one particular interpretation of the Bible.

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                           passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Where is the X and Y stories? If you truly studied the bible you wouldn't have these questions.
                           
                           what contradictions?
                           
                           Yes every church has views but the LDS church say that it is revelation, it is the words from god.
                           
                           The Journal of Discourses is the big reason for this post. The Jof D was doctrine in BY's day. It was the word of the true God according the LDS. But through the years the modern day revelation made the JoD not true or no longer doctrine.

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                              JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              I used X and Y as a generic placeholder. Since you need better examples.
                              
                              Jehoachin was 18 when he began his reign in Jerusalem. 2 Kings 24:8
                              Jehoachin was 8 when he began his reign in Jerusalem. 2 Chronicles 36:9
                              
                              Ahaziah was 22 when he began his reign. 2 Kings 8:26
                              Ahaziah was 8 when he began his reign. 2 Chronicles 22:2
                              
                              No man can see God
                              I have seen God
                              
                              I could go on.
                              
                              JoD was never canon in the LDS church.

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                                 passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Jehoachin was 18 because he did wrong in the site of the Lord in the original language the difference between 18 and 8 is a hook. it was probably  smudged or something on the scrolls don't know unless we see it.
                                 But this did not change doctrine.
                                 2 Chronicles saids 42. But do you see what i shared above,

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                                    passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Did moses see God's face? Read that again

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      Shadesbreathposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, troll much?

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         passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         me or Jaxson?

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            JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            He quoted you.
            
            It's clear to everyone that you're just here with some anti-lds agenda. The real question is... why?
            
            There are maybe 3 LDS members I've seen who post in the religious forum at all, and they aren't bothered by your arguments... so what's your purpose?

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               Shadesbreathposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Don't feed the trolls. They go away, back into the cave that harbors creatures with no avatar, no hubs and five fans after 14 months.
               
               Don't feed it. Don't respond to me. Don't respond to it. Just leave. Let it shrivel and die in the agony of being ignored, the one thing it hates more than anything, especially knowing we know it's happening.
               
               I bet it can't even resist responding to this post, with something, some denial, some something. Imagine, the troll, trolled.
               
               Can it not respond? Can it bear not at least getting the last word?
               
               I think it can't. It will say something else. Hoping you are weak.
               
               Don't be weak. Let it the troll die alone.

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                  passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Shades i do this on the Campos of BYU. I also do this with real people and real friends. I am not just on this anti friend web site. that does not mean anything to me. see my other posts. People are listening.
                  
                  Very sad for you shades looks like this is your life.

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               passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Alot of LDS members respond to these post.

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