Big Brother Britain is on its way

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   CMHypnoposted 12 years ago

   Now they are proposing that our ever so efficient politicians and other government agencies should be able to snoop into who we are contacting at any time, by recording all our emails, Skype conversations and social network messaging on a database.
   
   1) Total hypocrisy as both the Tories and Lib Dems opposed this when it was proposed by Labour in 2006
   
   2) Guess what?  Most UK citizens are not terrorists or criminals!
   
   3) How long do you think it will take for some civil servant to lose all the information on a station one Friday night?

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   edmob1posted 12 years ago

   I am at a lose with pooliticians these days and this is just one reason why.Both parties were vociferous in 2006 when the goverment of the day proposed such a measure.
   Only good thing is it cant be lost by a civil servant as they want the ISP's to keep the info the cost will no doubt be passed on to us the user's.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Hah! If they ever see me as suspicious and follow up my FB chat, they will find a lot of it is in Welsh, as I use FB as a medium in which to practice using Welsh. That means they will have to pay a translator to translate the drivel into English, which will help someone trying to earn a living in Wales most likely. Bring it on!

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      CMHypnoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And I'll have to start writing in drunk more often lol!  But maybe you can get a job translating your own emails and FB posts WA?

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   innersmiffposted 12 years ago

   I think the time to get off our backsides and do something about our criminal governments is now.

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   Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

   Don't know if anybody is interested in this, or has already signed, but here is the link to the 38 degrees petition opposing the plan.
   
   https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/stop-the-snooping-plan

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      innersmiffposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thumbs up

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   Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

   Don't know about you, Innersmith, but I'm sick of successive govermnments obsession with voyerism. As CMhypno eloquently puts it, we're not terrorists or criminals, so why the hell should we tolerate this form of intrusion into our private lives.

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      innersmiffposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The way I see it, it is not okay to punish the entire population for a minority's sins. Even if you have "nothing to hide", there must be a point where government intrusion into your private life is unacceptable. We should all be outraged at this.

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   John Holdenposted 12 years ago

   We need a revised version of the email that was suggested the last time this was spoken about. It went along the lines of "as I passed by the Bush outside the White House I saw a bin laden with plastic, explosive was I to see such devastation etc etc", or something like that.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, we also need to put up the same kind of fight as we did in 2006, when this was last suggested.We beat them then...

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         John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Do you really think this lot will take any notice of what people want?

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            Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Ordinarily, no. However, they do have a reputation for caving under pressure. And, let's face it, they are not in a very good place right now.

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               John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hm, didn't stop them blasting through the NHS in the face of almost universal opposition though did it?

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                  Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  No, but let's face it, that was about their personal profits and those of their cronies. I think, Cam the scam will have a Thatcher resignation moment sometime soon. I believe a man named Rupert may have pictures of him. What might happen then, though. Election, or another unelected slob?

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                     John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I hope and I pray that he does, and please make it sooner rather than later, while there is still a bit left.
                     But then we'll probably get just another unelected slob.

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                        Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Same old, same old. We have to keep opposing them, though.

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                           John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Yup, I just get so weary though

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                              Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              I know. As an armchair activist, signing petitions and printing off leaflets, I often ask myself "what's the point?" but then, I think about my kids, the Palestinians, women in the congo etc. and think, even a small victory is better than none. If we don't fight for people who do not have a voice, who will? Besides, where would be without the likes of Pankhurst, Marx, Benn and the like. They didn't give up, did they?

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                                 Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Oh and by the way, Murdoch is on his arse. Who would have thought that five years ago?

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   Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

   Just seen the headlines from the Independent, BBC press preview. "Government forced to reign in snooping plan" Don't have details as yet.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Total sideline, but Tony Benn is 87 today.
   
   I saw him last Thursday in a double act with Roy Bailey. Benn spoke and Bailey sang about class and other struggles in Britain over the ages. They were wonderful, and it was wonderful to see the standing ovation Benn received as he walked onto the stage. This was in Bristol, where they still remember his magnificent work as their MP.
   
   If only Benn had won the Labour leadership election when he stood, I think Britain would be a totally different place now, regardless of which party would be in power. With Benn at the helm, Labour would have returned to its roots and offered a true alternative, which would have stood them well whether in government or in opposition.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Here, here. I have nothing but admiration for Tony Benn. One of the few politicians of integrity. I also think John Smith, had he lived, would have done a great job. Shame that the decent Labour politicians never made number 10. Still, despite his age, Tony Benn is very active and considered by many to be a heavyweight. Although controversial, and disliked by many with the Labour party, I feel that George Galloway stands for the same values as Tony Benn, and therefore, it's good news that he has taken Bradford west.

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    John Holdenposted 12 years ago

    Wasn't it of Tony Benn that they said "the best prime minister we never had"?

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       Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I thought it was George Galloway that said of Kaufman "the best foreign secretary we never had" However, I'm rubbish when it comes to quotes.

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