Is it ok for police to stop and search people to balance the figures?

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   kephriraposted 14 years ago

   I read in the Times this week that British police are using anti-terrorism powers to stop and search white people who are not suspected of any crime. The reason they are doing this is because they don't want their statistics to show that they are discriminating against muslims in their investigations terrorism, despite the fact that there is no significant threat in the UK from any kind of terrorism other than Islamic terrorism, which is obviously perpetrated by muslims. I think anyone involved in this should be dismissed for dereliction of duty, but perhaps other people think that racial equality is more important than actual policing. I would be interested to know what hubbers think of this.

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      nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It all depends on the laws in England. On the US side of the pond it's blatantly unconstitutional, but it's commonly done anyway.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   It may surprise you but...some Muslims are actually white...
   
   And you wouldn't want the police to consider the fact that terrorism may come from other places? I know there are still problems with Northern Ireland.

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      kephriraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I know some muslims are white, it was just a bad choice of words, what I meant is non-muslims who are not doing anything wrong.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Give it some time, you'll get used to this. As well as to other signs of mature socialism

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   fortunerepposted 14 years ago

   There has to be probable cause to search a vehicle or a person.  If they think that someone may be a threat, they have the right to do so.  Hopefully  this will be done at least polite to keep from causing yet more problems.

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   No it's not OK.  It's a stupid waste of resources.  One of the ways Guliani cleaned up New York was by keeping track of crimes.  he would then send extra cops to high crime areas.  Criminal would then shift to new areas, so the cops followed.  If you start looking at things like color, race and creed, well that's a bit racist isn't it?  Shouldn't law enforcement be blind to those things?  It's someone's actions after all isn't it?

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   Dame Scribeposted 14 years ago

   YEah, sux when some Acts take precedence over civil rights n is quite a can of worms...yes, is good..same time...jus skeery

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   It's not a question of civil rights.  When looking for suicide bombers, you look for Muslims.  When you're looking for crack dealers, young inner city men.  When you're looking for meth sellers, young rural men.  What's more effective, giving money to each state to fight methamphetamine labs or do you give more to Missouri, who has the highest number of labs anywhere in the world?  You give most of the money to Missouri.  Heck when you're looking for illegal immigrants, you'd have the most impact when looking in the Hispanic population.  Much as I hate to say it, you'd be right to do so.  I tend to ignore the ignorant idiots who think that all Mexicans or descendants of Mexicans are illegals.  By thinking that way they've just proven that they aren't to be taken seriously.  If they're acting in an official capacity, you report and bury them.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Uh-oh, you are sooooooooooooooooooooo politically incorrect LDT

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   I prefer the term realist, Misha.  Heck I am Hispanic, so at least I'm talking about myself. 

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    LOL I personally don't have any problem with it, PC gone way beyond being useful IMO When we refuse to call white white we just fool ourselves and don't get a tiny bit closer to the solution.

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