Hubpages Please, Let My New Hub Go!

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   jacharlessposted 11 years ago

   I was quite excited, and hopeful about this new feature. Now, am very frustrated.
   A New Hub was created/published 31-Aug-12 and cleared 1-Sept-12.
   
   That was a week ago.
   
   If the algo is going to make it so Hubs must wait until Next Crawl, then
   a. am caught between a rock-hard place, in Limbo. The Hub is not even showing in the HP Breadcrumb sections.
   b. Hubbers who realize this are going to just wait until the 8th or 9th of each month to publish in order to be indexed? This cannot be good thing.
   
   Have checked all 3 major engines, link directories, DMOZ, Site Stats, Quantcast and more, and the link is nowhere to be found. Not even showing up, except as an H3 on my profile analysis and from 2 inbound from a Like & Tweet.
   
   Yes, granted it is a product hub, but not overly promoted -in fact no link to the software is listed -not even the Amazon capsule where the software is being stored for download. I wanted to wait for response before having a go.
   
   ...am miffed.
   
   James.

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      Niteriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Miffed is simply not good enough, James. You have to upgrade that to hostile! ...irate! ...incensed!
      

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         jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         lol. duly noted!  Upgraded to somewhere between irate and vivid.

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            Niteriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I am especially looking forward to vivid. I've always thought of you as a shining light!

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               jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Wanted to say livid, yet wrote vivid. Freudian slip. lol

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   Hollie Thomasposted 11 years ago

   I'm having the same problem, but mine have at least been indexed by Bing and Yahoo. I have submitted them manually to those engines, though. And I'm hostile, irate and incensed!

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      Redberry Skyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hollie - how do you submit to Bing and Yahoo manually?

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         Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         It asks for your homepage but I just submit url of each new published page.
         http://www.bing.com/toolbox/submit-site-url.
         
         Submitting here also ensures that you are indexed by Yahoo.

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            Redberry Skyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Cheers

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               Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               No problem.

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                  HowardBThinameposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you for that information, Hollie.

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      Niteriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am ever so flattered to be quoted by one so graceful.

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         Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You possess a silver tongue, Niteriter.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 11 years ago

   is this out already or still about - the hub

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      jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The other two have since been sold for top dollar to the PR8 sites.
      This new Hub is product//software based.
      
      Same scenario.
      
      James.

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   aa liteposted 11 years ago

   I was similarly 'worried' about a hub I published on 29th August, which went out of twirly mode after 24 hours but is still not indexed.   However mine was indexed by Bing (at least it got views from bing, so I assume its indexed), without me doing anything.
   
   I've just tried to manually submit it to Google through WebMasters Tools.  Will see whether that helps.  Although my understanding is that if you make a link to your hub from somewhere that gets crawled a lot, it will be indexed.  So shouldn't liking or tweeting it do the trick?  Or perhaps Google pulsing it?
   
   Mind you I remember reading something from potpie girl over at Squidoo, that you shouldn't Google plus etc. a page until it is indexed, because that would get the Google+ entry indexed rather than the lens, or hub.  I didn't believe that, but I think this happened to a lens I made.  I google+'d it too soon,and it wouldn't get indexed for ever until I deleted the entry.  When I searched for it, all I could find was the summary in my Google+ profile.

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   Isabella Snowposted 11 years ago

   I don't understand this thread at all.
   
   Hubpages is not allowing hubs to be published?

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      IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hubs are published as normal, but they now go through a 24 hour waiting period before they are indexed.
      
      If you look at your stats you will see a grey circle beside the new hub, which is there for a 24 hour period after publication, before it turns into a yellow dot to signify it is ready for indexing.
      
      Some hubs are not indexing for days afterwards. Its as if Google bots visited, saw the no-index tag and left. The hub must then wait for the next bot visit.
      
      Newly published hubs are not even available on the HP feed until the 24 hours are up. Check out the times in explore>hubs>latest.
      
      If you edit a newly published hub at all within the first 24 hours, the time resets to the time of the edit.
      
      I published a new hub 25 hours ago. Unfortunately 11 hours after publication, I added in more tags (without thinking) and so now it has to wait another 13 hours before it is released, and who knows when it will finally be indexed.

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         Isabella Snowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         And what purpose is this 24 wait serving?
         
         Does this affect older hubs when we update them too?
         
         I guess this is published somewhere since everyone seems to know about it, but I didn't see any notice.

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            aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I think you should read the thread "introducing idle hubs" in Official HubPages Announcement. 
            
            Well you would probably need a whole day to read the whole thread now, but at least Paul E's announcement.  It explains stuff.

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            IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            http://blog.hubpages.com/2012/08/introducing-on-idle/

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         Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I've waited three weeks for a hub to be indexed and, according to Google, the two hubs I now have waiting to be indexed have a robots.txt file. I'm confused.

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            IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Don't look at me for a reply to that one, because I haven't a clue with this whole robots.txt thing!
            
            My latest hub hasn't yet been indexed after (I think) 3 days, and so loses out on that lovely boost new hubs used to get. I added it into 'Fetch' after the featured symbol appeared beside it, but no joy.
            
            I am a bit disturbed, however, that in webmaster tools home page, I have a message on one of my other subdomains (not this one) that "Googlebot can't access your site".
            
            It happened in early August, apparently, but I only noticed yesterday.
            
            I sent in a Fetch message for the whole subdomain, but the message is still there. This account suffered a complete withdrawal of Google traffic about a week after the message first appeared.
            
            Nothing has changed, and I don't know how to fix it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I can't as the robots.txt thing is controlled by HP.

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               Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               All I know about the robots.txt thingy, is that it prohibits G from crawling your site. I've emailed HP and they've said not to worry about it and posted a link to the FAQ but I haven't had chance to read it yet. I couldn't do the fetch thing, either!

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   Isabella Snowposted 11 years ago

   Yeah, I am not wasting my time on that million page thread.....
   
   I've read the blog announcement now, thanks for the link.

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      aa liteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hmmm, I'm very sorry I suggested you read the bad forum thread and threatened to waste your time.  Luckily IzzyM saved the day by putting in the much better link to the blog!

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   IzzyMposted 11 years ago

   Having just read the blog entry again, it doesn't answer Isabella's questions either, though perhaps the Learning Centre entry does (linked from the blog).
   
   I have no idea the purpose of the 24 hour waiting period. It's not as if HP has enough staff to vet every hub.
   
   And no, it doesn't affect older hubs when they are updated, but idled hubs can enter a reconsideration phase (the grey circle), and become featured again.

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   Isabella Snowposted 11 years ago

   The Learning Center entry is actually what I read, I was just thanking you for the link.

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