Explain away this NDE.... Proof of Heaven.

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  1. aguasilver profile image70
    aguasilverposted 11 years ago

    OK, I look forward to the secular members dealing with this one!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ience.html

    "Dr Alexander describes his paradigm shift from focusing solely on the scientific make up of the brain to considering the spiritual realm of the mind, in a deeply reflective essay in Newsweek in advance of the release of his book, Proof of Heaven.

    'As a neurosurgeon, I did not believe in the phenomenon of near-death experiences,' he writes in his article, explaining how he had previously relied on 'good scientific explanations for the heavenly out-of-body journeys described by those who narrowly escaped death.'

    Though he considered himself a nominal Christian he said he lacked the faith to believe in eternal life.

    When his patients would tell tales of going to heaven during near death experiences, he relied on 'current medical understanding of the brain and mind' and disregarded them as wishful thinking.

    Skeptic: Dr Eben Alexander was dismissive when patients would describe journeys to heaven after near death experiences ... until the scientist experienced the pinked-tinted world of heaven for himself

    But after he became the patient, he says he 'experienced something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death.'

    Comments?

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Scientific reason? That would be testable and repeatable. So - we have a scientist who does not know the meaning of the word "science."

      lol lol

      Still - he is selling a book about his experience. Shocker. lol

      1. aguasilver profile image70
        aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        If you had bothered to watch the video, you would have seen that there have been ten's of thousands of NDE all remarkably the same.

        His scientific credentials are slightly better than yours or mine, but I understand your knee jerk reaction, it must be difficult when a scientist confirms the existence of life after death.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image59
          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          LAWL - As I said - this scientist (who comes from a long line of politicians) does not know that science is testable and repeatable.

          Hope he made a lot of money selling his book as well. lol

          Knee jerk? Confirms what? Is he dead? lol

          No wonder your religion causes so many fights. sad

          1. aguasilver profile image70
            aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Care to match YOUR qualifications to speak on the mattter against his?

            Dr. Eben Alexander, III, M.D., F.A.C.S

            Biography

            Education:

            1975 A.B. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

            1980 M.D. Duke University School of Medicine

            Postdoctoral Training

            Internship and Residencies:

            1980-1981 Intern in General Surgery, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina

            1981-1983 Resident in Neurological Surgery, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina

            1985 Acting Resident in Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts

            1985-1987 Resident in Neurological Surgery, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina

            1987 Senior Registrar and Cerebrovascular Fellow, Neurosurgical Service, Newcastle General Hospital, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, England, U.K.

            1988-1990 Instructor in Surgery, Brigham & Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            Research Fellowships:

            1983-1985 Research Fellow in Neurosurgery, Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1987 Research Fellow in Neurosurgery, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            Licensure and Certification:

            1980 Residents Training License, North Carolina

            1987 30888 North Carolina [Expires December 2011]

            1987 58762 Massachusetts License [Expires Dec 2011]

            2004 12520 New Hampshire License [inactive]

            2005 0101239440 Virginia License [Expires December 2012]

            1991 91066 Diplomat, American Board of Neurological Surgery, November, 1991 [Voluntarily involved in the Maintenance of Certification Program 29301, Recertification due 12/31/2019]

            1996 Inducted as a Fellow, American College of Surgeons (F.A.C.S.)

            Academic Appointments:

            1978-1979 Research Assistant, Neuroendocrinology, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina

            1988-1990 Instructor in Surgery, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1990-1994 Assistant Professor in Surgery (Neurosurgery), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1990-2001 Assistant Professor in Radiation Therapy, Joint Center for Radiation Therapy, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1994-2001 Associate Professor in Surgery (Neurosurgery), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            2001-2003 Associate Professor in Surgery (Neurosurgery), UMass Medical School, Worcester, Massachusetts

            2004-2006 Consultant, Gerson Lehman, New York, NY

            2008-present Assistant Professor of Research in Neurological Surgery, University of Virginia Medical School, Charlottesville, Virginia

            Recent Appointments:

            2008-2010 Clinical Director of the Brain Program, Focused Ultrasound Surgery Foundation, Charlottesville, Virginia

            Hospital Appointments:

            1988-2003 Associate Surgeon, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1988-2003 Associate Surgeon, The Children's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1988-2003 Associate Surgeon, Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts

            1994-2001 Director of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery, Brigham & Women's Hospital Boston, Massachusetts

            1998-2003 Clinical Associate in Neurosurgery, Massachusetts General Hospital  Boston, Massachusetts

            2001-2003 Active Staff, Department of Surgery, Division of Neurosurgery, University of Massachusetts Medical Center, Worcester, Massachusetts

            2004-2005 Sabbatical

            2005-2006 Corporate Consulting: Gerson Lehrman Group, New York, NY

            2006-2007 Active Staff, Department of Surgery, Division of Neurosurgery, Lynchburg General Hospital-CentraHealth, Lynchburg, Virginia

            Other Professional Positions and Major Visiting Appointments:

            1978 Research Assistant in Neurosurgery, University of Minnesota School of Medicine

            1980 Research Assistant in Pathology, Bowman Gray School of Medicine, Wake Forest University

            1989 Visiting Lecturer and Panelist, Department of Neurosurgery, University of Virginia School of Medicine International Symposium on Stereotactic Radiosurgery

            1989 Invited Lecturer, Neurology/Neurosurgery Grand Rounds, Harvard-Longwood Medical Area.

            1989 Invited Faculty, Stereotactic Radiosurgery, Radionics Course in Stereotactic Techniques, Congress of Neurological Surgeons Meeting, Atlanta, Georgia

            1989 Invited Lecturer, Nursing Grand Rounds, Brigham and Women's Hospital

            1989 Invited Faculty, Luncheon Discussion Group on Stereotactic Radiosurgery, Congress of Neurological Surgeons Meeting, Atlanta, Georgia

            1990 Co-Director, Panelist, Lecturer, Moderator, Harvard Medical School Continuing Education Course, Radiosurgery Update.

            1990 Invited Lecturer and Consultant, Varian Corporation, Palo Alto, CA

            1990 Invited Lecturer and panelist, Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School, "Neurosurgery Update", post-graduate course

            1990 Invited Lecturer, 14th annual New York Neurosurgery Symposium

            1990 Invited Lecturer, Skull base tumor Workshop, Hannover, Germany

            1990 Invited Lecturer, Framingham Union Hospital Medical Grand Rounds

            1991 Invited Lecturer, Neurology/Neurosurgery Grand Rounds, Harvard-Longwood Medical Area.

            1991 Invited Consultant, General Electric Medical Imaging Systems, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

            1991 Invited Lecturer, First International Symposium on MR-Guided Laser Interventions, Harvard Medical School.

            1991 Invited Lecturer, Providence Medical Center, Portland, Oregon.

            1991 International Organizing Committee, Invited Lecturer, Moderator, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Symposium, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

            1991 Invited Lecturer, Panelist, 9th European Congress on Neurosurgery, Moscow, USSR.

            1991 Invited Lecturer, German-Austrian Stereotactic Workshop, Finkenberg, Austria.

            1991 Invited Lecturer, Medical Grand Rounds, St. Anne's Hospital, New Bedford, Massachusetts

            1991 Invited Lecturer, General Scientific Session, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Orlando, Florida.

            1991 Invited Lecturer, Boston Society of Neurology and Psychiatry.

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Methodist Hospital Neurosurgical Grand Rounds, Indianapolis, Indiana

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Pennsylvania State Neurosurgical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Practical Course, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, San Francisco, California

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            1992 Invited Consultant, General Electric Medical Imaging Systems, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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            1992 Invited Lecturer, Workshop on Stereotactic Techniques, European Society of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery, Stockholm, Sweden

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Symposium on Neuro-Radio-Surgery, Vienna, Austria

            1992 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, Joint Section on Tumors Session, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Washington, D.C.

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Practical Course on Radiosurgery, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Washington, D.C.

            1992 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, Radiosurgery Course, American Society of Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology, San Diego, California

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Western Medical Center, Santa Ana, California

            1992 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston, MA.

            1993 Invited Lecturer, Practical Clinic, American Association of Neurological Surgeons Annual Meeting, Boston, Massachusetts

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            1993 Invited Lecturer, Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, Adelaide, Australia

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            1994 Fischer-Leibinger Visiting Professor in Stereotactic Neurosurgery, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Asia-Pacific Minimally Invasive Neurosurgery Conference, Singapore General Hospital, Singapore

            1994 Visiting Professor, Ministry of Health, Government of Singapore, Tan Tock Seng Hospital, Singapore

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            1994 Invited Speaker, Harvard Longwood Oncology Group Spring Symposium, Boston, MA

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            1994 Invited Lecturer, UCLA Course on Minimally Invasive Therapy of the Brain, Los Angeles, CA (8/25-27/94)

            1994 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, First Brazilian Workshop of Stereotactic Radiotherapy and Radiosurgery, San Paulo, Brazil (9/1-3/94)

            1994 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, XX Congresso Brasileiro de Neurocirurgia, Belo Horizonte, Brazil (9/4-8/94)

            1994 Invited Speaker, Grand Rounds, The Brockton Hospital Symposium, Brockton, MA (9/16/94)

            1994 Invited Speaker, The Preuss Foundation Symposium on Stereotactic Radiation Treatments for Brain Tumors, Boston, MA (9/28-30/94)

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Breakfast Seminar, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Chicago, Illinois (10/1-6)

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Interventional MRI Symposium, Society for Magnetic Resonance, Boston, MA (10/8-9)

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Stereotactic Neurosurgery - Hands On, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (10/28-29)

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Radiosurgery for Brain Tumors, Loyola University Medical Center, Maywood, IL (11/4-5)

            1994 Invited Lecturer, Intensive Review in Neurology, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston, MA

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Medical Grand Rounds, Brigham & Women's Hospital

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Practical Course, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Orlando, FL (4/22)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Tumor Section Symposium, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Orlando, FL (4/26)

            1995 Invited Speaker, Breakfast Seminars, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Orlando, FL (4/22-27)

            1995 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, 2nd Congress of the Spanish Radiosurgery Society, Madrid, Spain (4/28)

            1995 Invited Special Lecturer, Panelist, 10th European Congress on Neurosurgery, Berlin, Germany (5/9).

            1995 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, Virtual Reality in Medicine and Developer's Expo, Boston, MA

            1995 Invited Lecturer, X-knife Consortium Meeting, Boston (6/13/95)

            1995 Program Chairman, Lecturer, Moderator, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society 2nd Congress Meeting, Boston, MA 6/14-17/95)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Joint International Congress on Minimally Invasive Techniques in Neurosurgery and Otolaryngology, Pittsburgh, PA (6/19)

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            1995 Invited Speaker, General Electric Intraoperative MR Symposium, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, San Francisco, California (10/18)

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            1995 Invited Panelist and Consultant, Center for Health Care, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories, San Francisco, California (10/20)

            1995 Invited Professor, Overlook Hospital, Summit, New Jersey (10/27)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, New Jersey State Neurosurgical Society, New Brunswick, New Jersey (10/27)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (11/14-15)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, Stereotactic Neurosurgery - Hands On, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (11/17-18)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, XKnife Consortium, Orlando, FL (12/5)

            1995 Invited Lecturer, LINAC Radiosurgery, 1995, University of Florida, Orlando, FL (12/6-10)

            1996 Visiting Professor, Chicago Institute of Neurosurgery and Neuroresearch, Chicago, IL (12/22)

            1996 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, 2nd International Skull Base Congress, VII Annual Meeting North American Skull Base Society, San Diego, CA, (6/29-7/4)

            1996 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, Conference on Stereotactic Target Localization Techniques, Boston, MA, (7/20-7/21)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, LINAC Stereotactic Radiosurgery/Radiotherapy Symposium, Samsung Medical Center, Seoul, Korea (9/7)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, Stereotactic Radiosurgery Workshop, Tokyo University, Tokyo, Japan (9/8)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, Stereotactic Radiosurgery and Radiotherapy Workshop, Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Hong Kong (9/10)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, Symposium on Stereotactic Radiosurgery and Computer-Assisted Neurosurgery, Apollo Hospital, New Delhi, India (9/12)

            1996 Special Guest Lecturer, Oregon Neurosurgical Society, Salishan Lodge, Oregon (10/18)

            1996 Special Guest Lecturer, Oregon Neurosciences: Cost Effectiveness

            1996, Salishan Lodge, Oregon (10/18)

            1996 Visiting Professor, New Jersey Medical School, Newark NJ (10/22-23)

            1996 Neurosurgery Grand Rounds, Hackensack Medical Center, Hackensack, NJ (10/23)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, UCLA - XKnife User Group, Los Angeles, CA (10/26)

            1996 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (11/26)

            1996 Anesthesia Grand Rounds, Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston, MA (11/27)

            1997 Pain Service Grand Rounds, Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston, MA (2/24)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, MRI Basic to Advanced, General Electric Meeting, Breckenridge, CO (3/16)

            1997 Visiting Professor, Maine Neurosurgical Society Meeting, Sugarloaf, ME (4/4-6)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, Practical Course, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Denver, CO (4/14)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, General Electric Intraoperative MR Symposium, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Denver, CO (4/16)

            1997 Invited Speaker, Breakfast Seminars, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, Denver, CO (4/15,18)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, Anesthesia/Critical Care Grand Rounds, Beth Israel Hospital, Boston, MA (5/21)

            1997 Invited Lecturer and Moderator, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society 2nd Congress Meeting, Madrid, Spain (6/25-28/97)

            1997 Speaker, Panelist and Moderator, XII th Meeting of the World Society of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery, Lyon, France (7/1-4/97)

            1997 Invited Speaker and Moderator, 11th International Congress of Neurological Surgery, Amsterdam, The Netherlands (7/6-11/97)

            1997 Visiting Professor, Tulsa Neurosciences Society, Tulsa, OK (9/11-12)

            1997 Invited Panelist, Practical Course, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (9/27-10/1)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, Luncheon Discussion Groups, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (9/27-10/1)

            1997 Invited Speaker, General Electric Intraoperative MR Symposium, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (9/27-10/1)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, General Scientific Plenary Session, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (9/27-10/1)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, Brain Tumor Society, Boston, MA (11/1)

            1997 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (11/25)

            1998 Invited Speaker and Moderator, XKnife Radiosurgery Society Meeting, Philadelphia, PA (4/25)

            1998 Invited Speaker, "Meet the Professor Session", American Society of Clinical Oncology Annual Meeting, Los Angeles, CA (5/16)

            1998 Invited Speaker, General Electric Intraoperative MR Symposium, UHUHS: Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences, Washington, DC (6/3)

            1998 Invited Lecturer, Pain Management Seminar, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (6/13)

            1998 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (9/28)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, "Entering the Mind Zone: A Comprehensive Neuroscience Program", Brigham & Women's Hospital Nurse Education (1/13)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, West Virginia Medical Society, Charleston, WV (1/22)

            1999 Invited Speaker, AANS Joint Section on Cerebrovascular  Surgery, Nashville, TN (2/2)

            1999 Invited Speaker and Moderator, XKnife Radiosurgery Society Meeting, Sydney, Australia (2/23)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Panelist and Moderator, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society 3rd Congress Meeting, Sydney, Australia (2/24-2/27)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Panelist and Moderator, 50th Anniversary of Neurosurgery in Egypt, Cairo, Egypt (3/9-3/12)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Panelist and Moderator, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society 3rd Congress Meeting, Sydney, Australia (2/24-2/27)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Panelist and Moderator, Japanese Society of Skull Base Surgery / Conference on Neurosurgical Techniques and Tools, Osaka, Japan (3/22-25)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Practical Course, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (4/24)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, General Electric Intraoperative MR Symposium, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (4/26)

            1999 Invited Speaker, Breakfast Seminars, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, New Orleans, LA (4/27)

            1999 Invited Lecturer and Moderator, New England Neurosurgical Society, Dedham, MA (6/11)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Panelist and Moderator, American Society of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery, Snowbird, UT (7/7-11)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (9/14)

            1999 Visiting Professor, Stanford University Medical Center, Stanford, CA (10/1)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Neuroradiology, Head & Neck Radiology and Clinical Functional MRI and Spectroscopy, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (10/4)

            1999 Invited Panelist, Practical Course, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Boston, MA (10/30-11/4)

            1999 Invited Lecturer, Luncheon Discussion Groups, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, Boston, MA (10/30-11/4)

            1999 Invited Examiner, AANS Professional Development Course: Mock Oral Board Examination, Houston, TX (11/15-16)

            2000 Invited Speaker, North American Skull Base Society, Phoenix, AZ (3/17-19)

            2000 Invited Speaker, Practical Course, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, San Francisco, CA (4/9)

            2000 Invited Speaker, Breakfast Seminars, American Association of Neurological Surgeons, San Francisco, CA (4/11)

            2000 Invited Speaker, Society of University Neurosurgeons, Boston, MA (6/14-17)

            2000 Invited Panelist, Practical Course, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, San Antonio, TX (9/23-28)

            2000 Invited Lecturer, Luncheon Discussion Groups, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, San Antonio, TX (9/23-28)

            2000 Invited Lecturer, Tumors of the Central Nervous System, Harvard Medical School, Department of Continuing Education, Boston (12/4)

            2001 Invited Lecturer and Panelist, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society 4th Congress Meeting, Las Vegas, Nevada (6/10-13)

            2004 Medical Grand Rounds, Melrose-Wakefield Hospital, Melrose, MA (10/20)

            Awards and Honors:

            1977 The Engel Society

            1980 Alpha Omega Alpha

            1982 Brody Scholar in the History of Neuroscience

            1983 American College of Surgeons Scholarship

            1985 R.M.P. Donaghy Prize in Neurosurgery, Quebec  and New England Neurosurgical Societies

            1985 Award for Best Resident Paper, New England Neurosurgical Society

            1993 Elected to "Ten Outstanding Young Leaders" (TOYL) by Greater Boston Jaycees

            1995-96 Who's Who Among Outstanding Americans

            1997-99 Listed in "Best Doctors in America -- Northeast Region" Grant Support:

            1996 Investigator, Brigham Surgical Group Research Grant, Rapid Rate Magnetic Cortical Stimulation for MR Cortical Mapping. $42,000 direct costs

            Memberships, Offices and Committee Assignments in Professional Societies:

            1980-present American Medical Association

            1980-1987 North Carolina Medical Society

            1980-1987 Durham-Orange Counties Medical Society

            1983-2005 Massachusetts Medical Society

            1983-2001 Suffolk County Medical Society

            1988 Congress of Neurological Surgeons:

            1987 General Scientific Session Committee

            1988 Joint Committee on Education Self-assessment and Sponsorship SANS IV Committee

            1989 Luncheon Seminars Committee, Poster Sessions Co-chairman, Sergeant-At-Arms Committee

            1989-present American Society for Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery (ASSFN )

            1993-1995 ASSFN Board of Directors

            1989-present World Society for Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery

            1989-present Joint Section on Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery of the American Association of Neurological Surgeons

            1991-1992 Chairman, Resources Committee, Joint Section on Tumors, American Association of Neurological Surgeons and Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1991-1993 Self-Assessment for Neurological Surgery SANS V Committee

            1991-1995 Stereotactic Radiosurgery Task Force Member, American Association of Neurological Surgeons

            1991-1992 Chairman, Registration Committee, Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1992-1993 Chairman, Registration Committee, American Association of Neurological Surgeons

            1992-1994 Joint Committee on Self-Assessment, AANS/CNS

            1983-1987 Joint Committee on Continuing Medical Education, AANS/CNS

            1992-1997 Chairman, Subcommittee on Education, Joint Section on Tumors, American Association of Neurological Surgeons and Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1992-1997 Executive Council, Joint Section on Tumors, American Association of Neurological Surgeons and Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1992-1995 Editor, World Directory of Neurological Surgeons (North American Edition), Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1993-2001 Affiliate Member, American Society for Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology

            1994-1996 Executive Council, Joint Section on Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery, American Association of Neurological  Surgeons and Congress of Neurological Surgeons

            1994-1995 Program Chairman, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society Meeting, Boston 1995

            1994-1996 Chairman, Membership Committee, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society

            1994-1998 Member, Board of Directors, American Association of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery

            1994 Scientific Program Committee, Congress of Neurological Surgeons, San Francisco, CA 1995

            1997-1999 Chairman, Scientific Program Committee, International Stereotactic Radiosurgery Society Meeting, Sydney 1999

            1997-1998 President, XKnife Radiosurgery Society

            Editorial Boards:

            1987-1993 Congress of Neurological Surgeons: Clinical Neurosurgery

            1994-2003 Journal of Image Guided Surgery

            1994-1999 Journal of Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery

            1994-2003 Ad Hoc Reviewer, Neurosurgery

            1999-2000 Methods in Biomedical Magnetic Resonance Imaging and Spectroscopy

            Major Research Interests:

            1) Advances in 3-dimensional imaging capabilities for enhancement of intraoperative management of intracranial tumors and vascular lesions, including image fusion between CT, MRI and SPECT, magnetic stimulation preoperative cortical mapping, and the Intraoperative MRI (MR/T) Project with the General Electric Corporation

            2) Development of technical advances in the use of stereotactic  radiosurgery using a modified linear accelerator and the proton beam in the treatment of neoplastic, vascular and functional lesions in the central nervous system

            3) MR-guided Focused Ultrasound Surgery for the treatment of tumors (benign and malignant), clot dissolution in stroke and intracerebral hemorrhage, neuromodulation, creation of focal brain lesions, and precise targeted delivery of drugs and genes within the brain.

            Principal Clinical and Hospital Service Responsibilities:

            1988-2003 Attending neurosurgeon

            2006-2007 Attending neurosurgeon

            Teaching Experience:

            1988-89 Neurobiology Course, Tutorial Leader, New Pathway, Harvard Medical School.

            1988-93 Clinical Instructor, Physical Diagnosis Course, Second Year Medical Students, Harvard Medical School.

            1988-93 Surgery Elective, Neurosurgery Didactic Sessions, Harvard Medical School.

            1990 Invited Lecturer, Postgraduate Medical Series Neurosurgery Session, Brigham & Women's Hospital

            1993 Thesis Review, Graduation with Honors Program, Harvard Medical School

            1993 Invited Lecturer, Human Nervous System and Behavior, Harvard Medical School

    2. profile image0
      Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Isn't that the way it always is? We trivialize the experiences of others. Laugh at them and call them delusional.  Then WOW. All of a sudden it happens to you and it's completely reasonable.

      I feel compelled to laugh and trivialize the story.

    3. A Troubled Man profile image57
      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      "For a patient to maintain consciousness, two important neurological components must function impeccably. The first is the cerebral cortex which is the gray matter covering the outer layer of the brain. The other is a structure located in the brainstem, called reticular activating system (RAS or ARAS).[3]

      Injury to either or both of these components is sufficient to cause a patient to experience a coma." wiki

      Notice that a coma is a result of DAMAGE to the brain. Are we to give credibility to those who have had their brains damaged, the images they believe to have seen? Hardly.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image59
        Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        This guy spent 7 days in a coma after contracting bacterial meningitis. It doesn't matter his scientific credentials - he is lying when he claims to have scientific evidence of heaven.

        But - these believers are so very desperate they will ignore almost any rational argument - and of course - it is us evil atheists rejecting the proven facts they offer.

        This is why their religion causes so many conflicts. sad

        1. aka-dj profile image64
          aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I see, this is your list of credentials to refute the (good) doctor.

          You must, indeed be a world authority on this NDE stuff. (Oh, and a whole host of other subjects.
          How many doctorates, phd's et al did you say you have? hmm

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            LAWL

            Yet you reject hundreds of thousand of scientists' findings regarding evolution, geology etc? Shall I list the qualifications of a few eminent scientists in these fields aka?

            Yet when one scientist gets brain damage and has a dream - you are all over his qualifications? lol lol

            This is why your religion causes so many conflicts. sad

            1. aka-dj profile image64
              aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              You must admit, he's pretty qualified. big_smile

              I wouldn't mind betting, you will find an individual who had an NDE that reported "there is absolutely nothing on the other side", and hold it up to us all, saying, "see, here's proof that I'm right".
              LAWL, myself. lol lol lol

              1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Why would I do that? Internal subjective evidence of this nature would mean nothing to anyone else. I met my Spirit Guide - do you think I would hold that up to you as proof that we have Guides? No - I am well aware it is an internal experience.

                Guess you wouldn't understand that because you have probably never bothered exploring your subconscious? All about the Majik Juju isn't it? wink

                1. aka-dj profile image64
                  aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Were you guilty of "blowing raspberries" at other kids in school?

                  This line sure looks like that kind of behaviour. Not very becoming of an intelligent adult.

                  I suppose you are experiencing both in inner conflict and anger right about now. I think I shall retire before my comments cause you to smash your computer screen.



                  Good night, satellite. big_smile

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                    Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    What makes you say that aka? I thought we were having a civil conversation - now it seems you are trying to anger me.

                    Did Jesus tell you into your head to do that? That is what "Christians" are supposed to do I guess. Sleep tight. wink

    4. profile image0
      Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Come on, this guys is writing a book and marketing it towards the gullible. NDE's has been proven to be only a product of the brain years ago when they put hidden messages in ER rooms and asked people that claimed to float up if they saw any messages and not one did.

      But go ahead, buy his book.

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        jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        He must be a wise guy to know that he can market upon the gullibles out there who will swallow any nonsense to justify their pre-existing beliefs.

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          Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          jomine wrote: He must be a wise guy to know that he can market upon the gullibles out there who will swallow any nonsense to justify their pre-existing beliefs.

          ========================================

          Perhaps I should write a book about my NDE describing exactly what it's like in heaven. If you wanna know what heaven is like buy my book. Of course I'll mention that God asked me to write this book and he wants me to become really wealthy.

          1. profile image0
            jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            In no time you would be a rich man, even a prophet. smile

          2. getitrite profile image71
            getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It's so easy even a four year old can do it...like the boy who was on the TODAY show yesterday.  He now has a book that is a best seller, and there is a movie in the works.  It is completely disturbing to see how easy it is manipulate unstable religious minds..
            Check it out:  http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42191453/ … HWR54v9rx0

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              Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              I think it would be too painful to watch your clip. If I was a lesser person I'd be taking advantage of the gullible, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I can't say the same for all those tele-vangelists.

              1. getitrite profile image71
                getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Rad Man, I understand not wanting to watch this video.  I watched another one yesterday, of the same boy.  This boy is clearly delusional, yet not one adult, including Al Roker, has the awareness to tell this kid that God, Jesus, and heaven are imaginary...sadly it is because Al Roker, along with this boy's parents are just as childish, and foolish as this kid, when it comes to matters like this.

  2. janesix profile image59
    janesixposted 11 years ago

    This unfortunately isn't proof.

    There is no proof of God.

    That's where faith and belief, which eventually leads to KNOWING, comes into play.

    You will never convince an atheist of God.

    That is God's job.

  3. janesix profile image59
    janesixposted 11 years ago

    I think perhaps that those who continuously look for "proof" of God are those still at the stage of doubt. They have faith, but have not yet reached the state of knowlege in your heart.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That is certainly the impression I get from aguasilver - I agree with you for once. wink

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        lol...stranger things have happened i suppose:)

    2. aguasilver profile image70
      aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Personally I need no further proof than I have, but when proof shows up, especially from a renowned neurosurgeon, I present it for those who deny it's existence.

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        When God wants himself known to someone, he reveals himself. That's all I'm saying.

        1. aguasilver profile image70
          aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Then we agree, and it seems that whatever divinity this guy encountered, wanted to make itself know to him, and likewise to the rest of us....

          Pity we need to die or nearly die before we go looking for divinity! smile

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

    The term God can mean anything to anybody. Can't get more democratic than that. Put an adjective on it, God/Christ, God/Mohammad and you have fascism.

    1. aguasilver profile image70
      aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      He mentioned the presence of a 'divinity', not a name.

      1. getitrite profile image71
        getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Very opened minded!  So how did the good doctor just "KNOW" this was a divinity?  Since you agree with this "scientist" you must be willing to concede that this "divinity" presence could be Allah, Vishnu, or even Satan?   If not, where are the doctor's findings to prove that it was his personal perception of god.

        1. aguasilver profile image70
          aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          No, I agree, we cannot know what this divinity is, (from his account) and that's what makes it interesting and rather important that we know for ourselves what we believe.

          I believe there is something after death, and that it is good, and (for me) I have identified that as the God of the bible, and Christ, if I am wrong, I will be in whatever situation I find myself, as will all of us.

          1. getitrite profile image71
            getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            So now the premise is to insert whichever belief, we already hold, as the reason for the unexplained phenomenon?  That's seems very democratic, but totally lacking in logic.



            But believing that does not make it true.  And NDEs certainly do not provide one iota of evidence to support this belief.  Let me know if I missed something.



            What scientific method did you use to identify thus object as having the properties for being the subject of NDEs?  Or is this a plea to accept your beliefs, just because you believe them?

            No offense, but at this point, I'm thinking that science should probably not be invoked to substantiate the veracity of mere whimsical beliefs.  I think that has been proven here.

  5. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    And other famous neurosurgeons see the same thing and say it is just biological.  Ergo, it is not definitive evidence.

    If there ever was definitive evidence would that not do away with the need for faith, no one would need or have it, and we'd all go to hell as a result?

    1. aguasilver profile image70
      aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Or... we may all recognise that there was a divinity and stop being so selfish, maybe realise that we are here to share not acquire?

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        The last I heard, baptism and faith was what got you into heaven, not just being good.

        1. aguasilver profile image70
          aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Baptism.... that's a statement to the enemy, and apart from the Baptists (who I know hold it to be essential) I don't think it's an imperative, and faith is to heaven like breathing is to humans, no, what seems to be the qualification is accepting who Christ is (at least in the Christian faith) and stopping the rebellion.

          But having  said that, those who arrive in heaven will, I think, be more surprised by who IS there than by who isn't!

          1. Aficionada profile image78
            Aficionadaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I would just like to offer a correction here. Baptists do not believe that baptism is essential to salvation. In fact, we tend to be highly dismissive of that belief when we think it is being espoused by other denominations. We do place a strong emphasis on it, primarily because we Baptists have historically proclaimed the importance of "believer's baptism," as opposed to infant baptism or baptism-just-because-you-passed-the-confirmation-class. [End of Public Service Announcement]

            1. aguasilver profile image70
              aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              smile

              1. Aficionada profile image78
                Aficionadaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                smile  smile

                Some of the comments on this thread remind me of a young woman I knew. She was (is) strong, athletic, and vibrantly healthy, and she had every reason to believe that her first pregnancy would be easy and comfortable. Her body decided otherwise, though, and she came to realize that her previous perception of "reality" was not the final word. I overheard her a couple of times saying, "Oh, do I ever owe an apology to a lot of women!" (because of her skepticism about what they had gone through).  Some experiences just can't be shared adequately.

  6. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

    Definitive would probably mean automatic.

  7. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

    Adjectives/objectives

  8. getitrite profile image71
    getitriteposted 11 years ago

    Intelligent people are not immune to mental illness.  They are as susceptible as anyone else.

  9. getitrite profile image71
    getitriteposted 11 years ago

    Christians make bold whimsical assertions...get rational opposing views...begin to back paddle...adjust premise...lose all semblance of reason.

  10. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 11 years ago

    Dr. Alexander's experience adds a tangible proof to all who believe in God's revelation for this life and eternity.
    Faith/belief is sole phenomenon equipping to hear what God has to say.
    Nonbelievers' denial the believers faith won't make any difference in God's existence, heaven,life eternal etc.
    Even without a scientific  proof, the God's Truth remains available  to all who will decide choose freely to put their life --  by faith -- into His redemptive provision .

    1. getitrite profile image71
      getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, anything that remotely reinforces delusion is blindly accepted by desperate believers.

      1. aguasilver profile image70
        aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Or as in this case, by a formerly sceptical renowned neurosurgeon who lectures at Harvard... clutch at straws getitrite, the man is an acceptable scientific Doctor with more credentials than you can shake a fist at! smile

  11. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

    Actually I have had the experience and over time it changed my life. Although it was, I hope not near-death, but feeling to the other side. There is no proof that this experience was not simply a biological expression. However it is certainly more fun and interesting to believe it was not, and
    the changes incurred certainly all beneficial.

    1. galleryofgrace profile image71
      galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am an NDE'r and there is no person on this earth that can convince me I did not see or feel what I saw and felt and what I have experienced in the forty years since then.
      It does completely change your perception of life. Life as I knew it before then ended that day.

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        No one rational questions the experience, or your right to conclude from it what you wish.

        What is "true" in an objective shared sense is a different issue.

  12. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 11 years ago

    Inconsequential adding adjectives in an attempt to describe steadfastness of believers proves pressing frustration nonbelievers'  dealing with subject .
    Considering two opposite spiritual realities, good vs. evil, the enemy of GOOD , assuming lesser uncertainty of their " denying faith " without presence of faith in the God and rest of its benefits .

  13. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    Being a scientist does not make everything you do science.

    He had a spiritual experience and made a spiritual interpretation of it.

    That has absolutely zero implications for the science of the issue, such as it is.

  14. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

    "objective shared". Probably why the need separation of church and state.

  15. profile image0
    jomineposted 11 years ago

    Man was, is and will always be an animal, no matter what.

  16. aka-dj profile image64
    aka-djposted 11 years ago

    Oh, sorry Mark.
    I just realised, it's just one man's (yours) opinion. lol lol lol

  17. aka-dj profile image64
    aka-djposted 11 years ago

    Just for fun, suppose an NDE happened to you, (an atheist), and it produced the same end result, IE, you became a believer.

    Now, try and imagine how wonderful you would feel if all these "experts" (such as yourself) jumped all over your experience, calling it delusional, irrelevant, greedy (for selling a book), or brain damage. Can you, imagine that?

    Or, perhaps you have no capability of imagining, since it's neither rational, or scientific.
    But, hey, it was worth a try. big_smile

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

      Why would I give a crap what anyone else thinks? I would have faith - right? I would be certain. You guys with no real faith are the problem.

      There are thousands who have NDEs and report no such drivel as this "scientist."

      Odd you declines my offer of showing you the credentials of some renowned evolutionary biologists and geologists - these guys you dismiss completely.

      Weird you jump all over this guy's credentials as being a reason to value his delusion whilst brain damaged.

      This is why your religion causes so many conflicts.

      1. aka-dj profile image64
        aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        So, you have no credentials to speak of, just good old opinion.

        That's good. That's very good. Very convincing!

        I see you are still experiencing lots of conflict. You might want to see someone about that. It can't be good for the soul to be in conflict all the time.

        (Oh, sorry, I forgot, you don't have a soul. sad )

    2. A Troubled Man profile image57
      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, but it's quite easy to understand that if the brain is under stress of injury, the images that may have been seen can't be given any credibility whatsoever, therefore my conclusion would be that whatever it was I saw was just a result of brain trauma and nothing more. Simple, really.

      1. profile image0
        Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        It is very simple. A lack of blood flow or oxygen cause hallucinations. How many of us have seen stars that clearly are not there. It's simple unless you trying to convince yourself and others that heaven exists.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image59
          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          No no! A scientist said he saw Heaven. And as every one knows - Scientists don't lie unless they are evolutionists, biologists, geneticists, physicists, geologists, paleontologists, zoologists, botanists and other liars who claim evilushun.

          Just remember - this guy is a Harvard Grad. The fact that he claimed scientific proof from a personal hallucination should not detract from that. lol

          And as for the Daily mail........ Pretty sure the OP would dismiss anything else they published. wink

        2. galleryofgrace profile image71
          galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yes a lack of oxygen or blood flow would cause hallucinations. but how would that happen with a 12 year old who almost drowns. There are no injuries.but there is lack of oxygen.Where would the hallucinations come from in such a young mind and how would a young person be shown all their wrong doings by angelic entities that only spoke mentally?Further why would that young person be told she had to go back as soon as she showed concern for her family back on the earthly realm? Why was she showed where she had made false accusations against younger sisters and then continued to live on earth with many episodes of being falsely accused of something?
          Those are questions I've always wanted answers to.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Guilt? Tends to be when religious zealots push guilt on their children via religion that they do this sort of thing. Teaching this religion to children is child abuse.

            Always wanted answers to? Great - now you have the answer. Abuse and internal guilt.

          2. profile image0
            Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The subconscious mind is an amazing thing. I'm not sure why you think age has anything to do with hallucinations. Children's brains have way more activity than an adults.

            The brain can be shut down for surgery. If you've ever had surgery you would no you remember nothing during the time you were out. Death will be no different, but the lead up until death my be interesting.

  18. pisean282311 profile image63
    pisean282311posted 11 years ago

    NDE is experience reported by thousands across globe across faiths...depending on faiths their experience have been varied ....few have seen jesus  or muhammad or even gabriel ...most have seen none of these three...so going by majority abrahamic religion is myth...so ban bible as soon as possible tongue

  19. W Vidal profile image57
    W Vidalposted 11 years ago

    Veteran science writer Jill Neimark interviews Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D.

    "Cell biologist Bruce Lipton says our lives are not ruled by our genes but by our cell membranes – which respond to our thoughts. Has he found the key to mind-body healing? Listen to his remarkable conversation with veteran science writer Jill Neimark.

    The mystic healer Edgar Cayce once said, “Remember that thoughts are things, and as their currents run, they can become crimes or miracles.” Now cell biologist Bruce Lipton, formerly at University of Wisconsin and Stanford medical schools, suggests that Cayce was right. Lipton, author of Biology of Belief: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter, & Miracles , contends that our thoughts can activate changes in the activity of the cell membrane, and thus alter our health and life."

    http://www.brucelipton.com/interviews-with-bruce/

    1. W Vidal profile image57
      W Vidalposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Science is getting holistic these days.
      http://www.brucelipton.com/

      1. A Troubled Man profile image57
        A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Lipton is just rehashing Lamarckian theory, which was precluded by Darwin long ago.

        1. W Vidal profile image57
          W Vidalposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          You seemingly didn't understand the significance of Lipton's work, or you don't want to. If Lipton is correct, then the whole discipline of biology has to be re-engineered.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image57
            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            But, he's not correct, that is the point. He's merely rehashing old news.

            1. W Vidal profile image57
              W Vidalposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Lipton is saying that thoughts can communicate with cell-membranes, and thereby can produce physical changes within the cell and the DNA. It's about the power of consciousness, and how far it can go.

              It's a revolution in the field of science.

              1. profile image0
                Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                But will do nothing but cause the gullible guilt when they get ill.

              2. A Troubled Man profile image57
                A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                At this point, it;s just so much baloney. Lipton has no evidence to support Lamarckian theory. It's just so much hot air.

                1. ytbot1x profile image59
                  ytbot1xposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You haven't even started to read Lipton. Be fast, bro! lol

  20. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 11 years ago

    @ jomine ,
    You can't be serious. Even at your best, it's only your opinion ( not affecting anyone else )
    A r e  you , really ...?

    1. profile image0
      jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Instead of heaven (whatever he meant by that), if he wrote he saw he had been sleeping with Angelina Jollie, will you be taking him seriously? If not what make him seeing heaven special?

  21. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 11 years ago

    Some of traditionally inherited  terms like " heaven" could have different meaning to different people.
    Those, who never managed to " believe " in one existing or even never " been " there , will probably understand , we'll ,whatever they want about it.
    On the other hand it sounds a wishful thinking that other people write in the way " me " want to have it phrased, ( not to distort " my " imagination),
    Again, to take anyone/anything  seriously is a personal choice, while the "heaven " will continue to be heaven , as the earth remains to be earth .
    Finally those ,  who had an experience " seeing/ being in heaven are somehow " special" -- believe or not.

  22. Paul Wingert profile image61
    Paul Wingertposted 11 years ago

    I can use some extra cash. I think I'll publish a book about the after life.

    1. galleryofgrace profile image71
      galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do some research on PMH Atwater.

  23. galleryofgrace profile image71
    galleryofgraceposted 11 years ago

    Mark Knowles: Are you saying that a child raised attending an Episcopal church weekly or more was actually being abused?

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Was she taught that majik is real and she will be punished by an Invisible Super Being for not believing?

      If so - yes.

      1. galleryofgrace profile image71
        galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        The punish part is true and I'm a little astounded. On the other hand magic is real.
        I suppose that would also explain why prayers to a non-existant Super Being were never answered.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image59
          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yes - it absolutely explains why prayers never get answered, but - yes - this would be child abuse.

          1. galleryofgrace profile image71
            galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Mark you're a trip and a half! But thanks for the intelligent information.

 
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