Got an automotive hub? Check out named site to see if it's stolen.

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   The site is w w w. car article. net/
   
   Found one (so far) of mine. Have already filed DMCA. I suspect the whole site is nothing but stolen car articles. And they've got AdSense ads.

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      paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      They've also stolen this hub, http://eddiecarrara.hubpages.com/hub/6- … from-a-Car

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      donnah75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. They stole mine too. Do you have the info one needs to file a DMCA against them? Who are they?

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         paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Courtesy of and direct from HP staff...
         
         http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

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      Savio Dawsonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Paradigmsearch,
      
      They also have three of my articles because of which one of most popular hub has zero traffic....The hub was a combined list of fastest cars and bikes..... I have filed a DMCA too but no response yet.... And i found another hubber's article too..

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      galleryofgraceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It's a Wordpress site!

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         paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I am totally clueless as to all things Wordpress. What are the implications of it being a Wordpress site?

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      LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for taking the effort to report this, and share with other Hubbers.

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      wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Damn it! When is it going to stop? I mean, we work hard to put our work out there and these filthy thieves just copy paste these hubs and slap AdSense  code. Isn't there anything we can do to stop someone from copying anything like some bloggers do?

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         Marketing Meritposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         They don't copy and paste, the process is much more sophisticated than that Wowtgp!
         
         Autoblogs typically scrape content via the setting up of 'cron jobs.' The main disadvantage is that it can be heavy on server resources. Content is typically scraped from the site feed, which is why plagiarized articles can appear within minutes of the original being published.
         
         Hope this helps!

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            wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Isn't there any way to stop them from doing it? It sounds disastrous.

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               Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               No there isn't. Part of being an online content producer is looking after your own copyright, tracking down those that steal from you and dealing with it through the proper channels..

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                  wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Dang it! It must be so tedious! I will be perplexed if I see my work being stolen by someone.

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                     Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I usually spend a day every 3 or 4 months where I deal with thefts. It's not that big a deal really when you've been dealing with it for years.

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                        wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Good luck dealing with 'em.

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                  LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  On RedGage,  when an attempt is made to copy, scrap or do anything but share through legitimate sources a warning is posted cautioning the potential thief  from doing so.

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                     Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I'd be surprised if they can stop automatic scrapers?
                     
                     Can they also stop someone looking at the page source and copying the text from there?
                     
                     The system Redgage has might stop your average copy and paster, (usually someone who just wants to share something with friends or on a forum and doesn't understand copyright), but not a determined content thief.

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                        LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        It is some effort by the hosting sight. Not meant as an argument, just saying that a bit of effort is nice. Thank you.

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                           Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm not arguing either. Just pointing out the obvious.
                           
                           Disabling copy and paste is annoying for casual visitors and does nothing to stop real content thieves.

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      HeatherH104posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      They stole one of my poems I wrote yesterday. Had nothing to do with cars. Infuriating, it even ranks above me in google search. What can I do?

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   And this one they have stolen twice, http://eddiecarrara.hubpages.com/hub/Br … with-a-car

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   And this one they have stolen 6 times, http://live-n-learn.hubpages.com/hub/Ch … ry---Guide

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   I am now willing to wager that, at minimum, they have stolen every single hub at http://hubpages.com/topics/autos/170

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   HP really should have some sort of system set up to deal with blanket thefts like this...

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   I just filed a 2nd DMCA for another one of my articles that I found there.
   
   @HP Ya know, what with that website probably copying your entire auto section, I'd guess they are taking at least $200 a day in actual cash ad revenue from you. That's $73,000 a year (in actuality, I'd guess it's a lot more). Cash. I would think that would be important to you...

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      PoeticPhilosophyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Does filing a DMCA complaint for plagiarism make them lose there adsense account permanatley

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         paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         When the whole site is stolen content, you betcha. The problem is how long it will take Google to figure that out...

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         LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Yes they will be banned from adsense, and not get earnings from the time they are reported.

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   Depressed as hell. Going to go do some chores and watch a movie.

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   Austin Enfroyposted 10 years ago

   They have an article of mine on their website!

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      paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Every article I've checked at http://hubpages.com/topics/autos/170 is also on their website I believe. It's not a pretty picture...

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         wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Wow! It's ridiculous! Some measures must be taken  to stop this thievery, otherwise we are are in trouble.

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   If Google does not stomp on that website, I officially give up being an online writer.

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    As of July 27th, w w w . car article . net is still robbing HP and Hubbers blind. Including this article, http://kathrynvercillo.hubpages.com/hub … California
    
    And it looks like the site is branching out and stealing anything and everything, not just auto hubs anymore.

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       rebekahELLEposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for this thread, PD.  It looks like the entire site is stolen articles. I found two auto related hubs by Time Spiral and alerted him.  Sites like that look suspicious when there is no About page or way to identify or contact them.

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    Marketing Meritposted 10 years ago

    The site is hosted in Istanbul, so DMCA will not apply there, as regards getting the content removed. However, you should file a DMCA to Google search for INDEXED site (if they're not showing on Google search then they will be rejected).
    
    Also, as there are adsense ads on the site, you can log in and submit a complaint via your adsense account.
    
    As far as I can tell, this is a Wordpress BLOG not a Wordpress SITE. This is not hosted by Wordpress and therefore, is nothing to do with them.

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       paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you Marketing Merit.
       
       Folks, here is the HP-supplied link for Removing Content From Google: http://support.google.com/bin/static.py … ;&rd=1 Select "Web Search".

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       galleryofgraceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       (In my opinion) If you have to have to login to the site with wordpress user name and password- it's  connected to wordpress.

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          LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I did not have to log in. They have thousands of stolen articles, word for word, hurls are only changed by putting their "car article"

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    Time Spiralposted 10 years ago

    Those b4stards stole my articles!
    
    I'm going to go through the Google reporting process, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Getting removed from Google services certainly removes about 80% of their potential traffic, but not all of it, meaning our scores with Yahoo/Bing and other types of aggregate search engines will suffer.
    
    I've considered contacting the proper body in Turkey.
    
    Perhaps we can find a way to take more drastic measures versus these grand thefts.

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       paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Here's a post Marketing Merit made...
       
       Getting their AdSense revoked would be good...

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    "Google, copyright holders agree on plan to starve piracy sites of cash"
    
    http://bgr.com/2013/07/17/google-anti-p … nitiative/
    
    Ok, folks. The article has lots of links in it. Whoever follows all the winding trails and first finds the direct link to report offenders, WINS!
    
    When found, post it here. Then we will ALL use it...

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    Jeez, so far all I'm finding is a bunch of articles and blurbs stating the opinion that Google doesn't not only care, but is happy about the additional ad revenue from the piracy sites. Think I'll console myself with a decent lunch...

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    Seems like the more advanced technology gets, the more it brings out the worst in people. The internet is a perfect example of this. Seriously, every time one turns around, somebody is stealing something. Who knew there were so many thieves in this world...? Contemplating becoming a monk.

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    Susana Sposted 10 years ago

    On the whois loookup for the site it says this:
    
    "PRIVACYPROTECT.ORG is providing privacy protection services to this domain name to protect the owner from spam and phishing attacks. PrivacyProtect.org is not responsible for any of the activities associated with this domain name. If you wish to report any abuse concerning the usage of this domain name, you may do so at http://privacyprotect.org/contact. We have a stringent abuse policy and any complaint will be actioned within a short period of time."
    
    If you go to privacyprotect.org they say:
    
    "We are very particular about ensuring that our services are not used to camouflage any abusive, malicious or illegal activity. That being said, the service is available to nearly 3 million domain names, and we might not be able to track down every one immediately. In case you find any domain name using PrivacyProtect.org services indulging in any kind of illegal activity, please inform us using the Report Abuse form on the home page, and provide all evidence that you can about such activity.
    
    Our compliance team will review the complaint and disable the service for the domain name, to unmask the identity of the person who owns it. We shall also forward the complaint to the Sponsoring Registrar so they may take appropriate action on the domain name itself; you might want to contact the Registrar directly as well."
    
    You can report abuse of the service here:
    
    http://www.privacyprotect.org/#report_abuse

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       paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Bumping this worthy post. With its links...

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    Just a quick update. Yep, I've confirmed that the website has branched out from automotive and is now stealing hubs from every topic under the sun. Example: http://angelaharris.hubpages.com/hub/Be … -Interview My impression is that they are confining themselves to just stealing from HubPages. If so, then according to Google, they've stolen about 1,600 hubs so far. And their AdSense ads continue to perk right along...

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    Judi Beeposted 10 years ago

    Eight more articles were added in the short time I was looking at this site - he's going for business at the moment, so check him out if you've got hubs about jobs/interviews/employment.
    
    He's opened up holiday and health categories too, but only one hub added to each so far.

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    Judi Beeposted 10 years ago

    I'm unable to access this site now - I get the "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect" message - is it my computer or is it gone?

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    Muttfaceposted 10 years ago

    I believe It's gone.

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       wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I can confirm that. Rejoice!

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          paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          

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       donnah75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I hate to burst the happy bubble, but I just went to the offending site. It was still there. I can still see the article they stole from me and many many many others.  Why do you think it is gone? Am I missing something?

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          Judi Beeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Drat!  Thought it was too good to be true.  Yes, it's there again, more pages added - lots of health related stuff.  I've seen hubs by Wrylilt, MissOlive, Patty Inglish and Nettlemere added today.

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             wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Damn it! What now?

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                Judi Beeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                If you find your work and haven't already done so, file a DMCA and file an abuse report to Adsense.

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                   wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   Excuse my ignorance, but how do I know if they have stolen my hubs?

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                      donnah75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      Try doing a search with your hub titles and their website name. Or your username and their website name.

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                         wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                         Thank you.

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                   LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   Your advice is excellent! :-)

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       LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       NOt gone but good try.

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          Judi Beeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          The site was down yesterday when several of us posted here - we have since commented that it is now back up and it has been reported that it has branched out from just posting car hubs.  No one was "trying" anything, just reporting what was happening.

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             LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Thank you. It has been up. I understand why many Hubbers shy away from forums, but I also know a few things about Trolls Pirates and bullies. I was not pointing a finger at any one person, just asking those who are really losing in this to think about who they are taking information from...that is all :-)

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    rebekahELLEposted 10 years ago

    Nice work, hubbers. Another one bit the dust...

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       Savio Dawsonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Congrats to all!! Great work guys... I confirm too.... My auto articles are safe now... phew!!

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          PoeticPhilosophyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Haha good-jobs guys.

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          LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          It is still up and running. I think we need to exhibit caution on who we take advice from in these forums. Consider these thieves and the investment they have in keeping us feeding them. Do you think they do not write beside us? Digital Millineum Copyright Act is the best way to protect yourself from what is stolen, a report filed directly with AdSense, and finally HubPages are the steps to halt this for now.

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       LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       They are still up. Thousands of stolen Hubs

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          wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I will trow a big-as* party once this site goes down

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             wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             *throw

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 10 years ago

    Many thanks to Judi for alerting me to my hubs copied on this site.
    
    They've copied way more than automotive hubs - anyone who writes about business, employment issues and health should check for copied content.  I recognized several from familiar Hubbers.

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    LillyGrillzitposted 10 years ago

    http:/ /www. car article .ne t/car-safety-recalls-why-do-we-need to take our-car-to-the-garage/ is stolen from one of our Hubbers,  I remember reading it on a Hubber I follow... anyone? It was stolen from Nell Rose

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       paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Please delete that slime link... Break up the text so it will still show, but not be a live link.

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          LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Ok.

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             paradigmsearchposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             You're still my favorite.

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                LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks. Again, thank you for making us aware! (((Hugs)))

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    Savio Dawsonposted 10 years ago

    OK, now the site is not showing... Not only the site but the copied article is also not showing... Can others confirm?

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       wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       They are still there robbing us.

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       wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       How much time is it going to take for Google to fix it up?

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          Savio Dawsonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          No wowtgp,
          
          It has definitely gone. At least my articles are not showing.. .Maybe google is taking down one by one, in sequence to the raised DMCA... Therefore, some are still showing... Maybe...

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             Savio Dawsonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Here is confirmation dude,
             
             Search for 'fastest cars and bikes in the world' and you will see the following notice at the end of the first search result page:
             
             In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.
             
             And when you open the DMCA complaint, you see that it is mine... So, Google is acting in sequence..

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                wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Hmmmm.... I noticed that, but the site is still up.

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                   Savio Dawsonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   The site cannot be taken down directly, I had actually written to the host at:
                   info@turkishost.com
                   
                   And they started me giving crap about sending a legal notice only after which they can take it down... Silly beings, if you ask me.. Anyways, the good news is that DMCA complaints are working and we all should be seeing the result in some time.

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                      wowtgpposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      Yeah, Big G is the boss

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                      Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      DMCA takedown notices ARE legal notices, but they have to be written in the correct format. Also, even though the website is hosted in Turkey if everyone who has had content copied sends the host DMCA's they may just get pissed off enough to take it down.
                      
                      When you send a DMCA to Google search they will generally take the copied page out of their search results. Sometimes they will take the whole website out of their search results if they get enough DMCA complaints, but the website will still exist - it will still be found on Yahoo, Bing etc. Google does not have the power to take down a whole website, only the host can do that.
                      
                      And if no-one has done it already, it would be well worth making a complaint to privacyprotect, as they say they will not only take away the domain owners privacy (which will shit them up a bit), they will also report them to the domain registrar (which will further make life difficult for them).

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    paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

    Good morning, campers!
    
    The bad news. The car article . net website is still present and indexed all over Google.
    
    The good news. The AdSense ads are gone; implication being their account has been revoked. That should slow down their motivation. Also, I've gotten the impression their pages rank considerably lower than the hubs they stole them from.
    
    Happy Wednesday.

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       LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       More good news Hubbers...add rank08 to the http address of your high ranking hubs...not only have they hacked Hubs converting them to French,  but HubPages name as well. I notified HubPages doing the other filings as well.

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       donnah75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Has anybody had any luck getting this car article site to take down their material?  It is outranking me if I search for an internal sentence from my hub.  If I search the title, it isn't yet, thankfully, but the theives still have their site up.  Still mad as hell about this!!!!

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    FatFreddysCatposted 10 years ago

    This bag of douche sniped my most recent article, which was published over the weekend. Between this guy and the French choad, I'm officially sick of filing DCMAs which seem to have no effect.

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       LillyGrillzitposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       This will probably be deleted b 4 read, but recommend filing complaint with F B I

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    Susana Sposted 10 years ago

    FBI? LOL
    
    People don't seem to be bothering to go through the DMCA process as evidenced in this report: http://www.google.com/transparencyrepor … ticle.net/
    
    If people don't take responsibility for their own copyright and instead expect some other agency to deal with it, then this site is not going to get removed from search, from the host, etc. it's that simple.

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       Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I only found two of my Hubs there yesterday through Copyscape, and there wasn't any point in filing a DMCA with Google because, by then, the site had already been removed from search results.
       
       It took me a long time to find the correct email address to file a complaint with the host:
       abuse@turkishost.com
       
       I sent the complaint yesterday under the World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty. (The host is in Instanbol, Turkey, and is obligated under WIPOC, not the DMCA.)
       
       So, the site has been taken down.
       
       Now, everyone needs to remove the cache of stolen pages with Bing and Google.
       
       In retrospect, I posted on the Forum about suspicious activity on HubPages from visits originating from Turkey, a known source of webspam.  (There are very, very few English speakers in that country to be legitimately visiting HubPages en masse as I noted in my post.) According to Google, websites hosted in Turkey have the highest percentage of webspam and that should have been a red flag to someone in the tech department at HP.  Apparently, it wasn't.
       
       http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/114005#post2426338

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          Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, and if you'd like to drop a note of condolence to the guy who owned that site, you can send him an email or drop a note on his Facebook or Twitter pages:
          
          Selman Simsek
          (bilgi@myhisse.com)
          van gevas
          VAN
          turkey,65000
          TR
          Tel. +90.05330565035
          
          https:// www.facebook.com/selmansimsek72
          
          https://  twitter.com/Selmannurorda

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    Susana Sposted 10 years ago

    I've just contacted infolinks.com, the current advertisers on the site.
    
    I suggest everyone else does as well.
    
    http://www.infolinks.com/contact-us

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       maalarueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I also discovered today that they had one of my fitness articles. I found that out using copyscape. However, it appears that the site is no longer active. Can someone confirm this? I had a huge drop in traffic to my Hub a couple of weeks ago, and now I wonder after the last algorithm upgrade if this site may have killed my traffic.
       
       Anyway, I hope they are gone for good now. Unfortunately I still show them as duplicate on copyscape.

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          donnah75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I don't want to speak too soon, but it does appear to be gone.  However, the healthylivingbox site has stolen the same article that the cararticle people stole.  I suggest you check that out and file against them as well.

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             maalarueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks for the info, however I am not finding any site for healthylivingbox dot com ?

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                Judi Beeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                healthylivingbox (dot) net - not (dot) com

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