How to Hide the Copyright Notice in the Most Obscure Way Possible

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  1. janderson99 profile image54
    janderson99posted 10 years ago

    The new site upgrades (see blog) include a HP copyright notice for authors.
    Where is it placed?
    In the far bottom left corner,  right at the end of the article.
    It is in tiny gray lettering that you will need a microscope to see.
    An example is displayed below.
    How could this possible act as any deterrent to stop copying? Why there, and so tiny? Its very important for authors who have the rights.
    Like the tiny author name, shoved right over to the top right hand side of the hub, this seems to be part of a deliberate HP policy to hide recognition of authors.  Why?
    Can you see it? - far bottom left corner. below the ads, below related search. Someone could copy the entire text of the article and never see the notice.
    http://www.wotisnew.com/hidec.jpg

    1. moonlake profile image82
      moonlakeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I thought this was very strange too. It sure doesn't look right.

      1. janderson99 profile image54
        janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Despite having subdomains, despite the push for 'authority' and author identity, HP is so determined to give zilch prominence to authors that it buries the notice in the ooze. This was done deliberately. How can it be an error. What chance would any author have for a copyright claim when the notice is hidden!

        1. Marisa Wright profile image87
          Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I came to this conclusion some time ago.  I think HubPages felt that the move to sub-domains gave Hubbers too strong a sense of their own importance, and they've been trying to reduce the emphasis on individuality ever since.  Here are the measures which support your theory:

          1.  Large 'author box' removed from all Hubs and replaced with tiny photo and unobtrusive link.

          2.  List of Hubs added to the end of each Hub, strongly competing with the "next" and "previous" Hub Group links because they appear directly under them - it's not obvious the "previous" and "next" Hubs are by the same author.

          3.  Search box on profiles removed - visitors can no longer search within] an individual Hubber's account.

          4.  Option to browse an individual Hubber's Hubs by category made unobtrusive on our profile - several Hubbers couldn't find it, so readers are unlikely to spot it.

          5.  Contacting a Hubber made more difficult - email option is hidden inside Fan Mail, which external readers would have no hope of finding.

          6.  Signing up for a Hubber's RSS feed made more difficult - there used to be a link on our profile, now gone.

          7.  Copyright notice made unobtrusive and too distant from content.

          1. Victoria Lynn profile image88
            Victoria Lynnposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Interesting, Marisa. I never liked any of those changes.

          2. Writer Fox profile image32
            Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            +1  Good points!

            1. janderson99 profile image54
              janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

              Everything changes now - Editors Choice - Read the blog!

              1. Writer Fox profile image32
                Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                What changed about  Marisa's seven points?

                1. janderson99 profile image54
                  janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  nothing => just a head's up on bouncing back to pages listed on main url again!

                  1. Writer Fox profile image32
                    Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                    They are temporarily moving the URL and then they are going to move it back to the subdomain URL.  I just opted out of that.  That just makes no sense.

    2. Millionaire Tips profile image90
      Millionaire Tipsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you.  The copyright notice should be above the ads - it should be right below the article, since we didn't write the ads. It should also be the same font size and color as the hub itself.

      I also agree with Mark.  When I first saw that part of my hubs - the entire screen is filled up of "related" searches which are just links to pages of ads, I was sickened.  There is no question that that is way too much advertising when you get a whole screen of nothing but ads.

      1. psycheskinner profile image84
        psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        +1, the notice should be immediately after the text it relates to.

  2. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 10 years ago

    Jeez.  Is that really a screen shot?  Spam, spam, spam.

    Quality content... sort of... surrounded by so much advertising that one visit will be enough for most people.

    You know those sites that you hit once on search and decide never to go back again?  Because whatever useful or interesting /entertaining stuff is buried so deep in garbage it is not a pleasure.

    That's how that page looks to me.

    1. janderson99 profile image54
      janderson99posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yep - screen shot - Its the bottom of every page, below the last line of text. Maybe it signifies the copyright for all the ads. Perhaps Nero is fiddling.

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
        Mark Ewbieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        To be honest I am not sure I'd want my fake name anywhere near that page.  It's awful.  It looks rubbish.

  3. Writer Fox profile image32
    Writer Foxposted 10 years ago

    First of all, that's not even a proper copyright notice.  (Since when is a name like 'john anderson' not capitalized?)  How does HubPages have any clue when the article was first written and copyrighted?  Where is the 'All Rights Reserved' notice?  And how does anyone at HubPages know under which name the actual copyright is held?  Did anyone ask you for the correct information? Who authorized HubPages to post a notice with legal implications and consequences on your behalf? Did you give them Power of Attorney or Agency for that specific purpose?

    I don't understand why the staff is messing with things that aren't broken, while alienating the authors willing to post content here, instead of focusing on how to drive traffic to the site.  HubPages' views are now down to the level of exactly four years ago.  There is still no one on the staff who has a clue about search engine optimized content strategies and editing, as Paul Edmondson has so many times disclosed, let alone how to teach it to writers.

    1. Glenn Stok profile image96
      Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Writer Fox -

      There is a field where one can enter their real name in case the username they chose is not their name.  I assume HP takes it from there.  The reason why 'john anderson' is all lower case is because he entered his name that way.

      The copyright HP uses is the minimal legal and correct format.  There is really no need for saying 'all rights reserved.'   See http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ03.pdf

      Authorization is not an issue. As stated in HP's blog and email notice, this is a feature that the Hubber himself or herself can turn on or off to display the copyright or not.

      As for the date of the copyright, I already started using this feature myself and I found that HP automatically uses the correct year that I originally published the hub. Now that's really cool. wink

  4. Glenn Stok profile image96
    Glenn Stokposted 10 years ago

    janderson99 -

    I started using it today, removing my own copyright notice.  I understand the need for a common format as I see many Hubbers using incorrect copyright lingo. But I have to agree with you 100% about the grey text and about the silly placement.

    I was thinking that both the copyright  line and the thumbs up/down line should be moved up just under the last capsule of the  hub.

  5. Writer Fox profile image32
    Writer Foxposted 10 years ago

    The year a Hub was first published may not be the year the article was created and first published elsewhere.  "All Rights Reserved" is the addition most attorneys advise, and take note that is how HubPages displays its own copyright notice on the bottom of every webpage on the site.   

    If you want to use the automated notice that visitors can barely discern, it is certainly your decision. It is not now nor ever will be mine. It's just a shame that it is now part of the QAP and a Hub score is lowered if you use a more effective copyright notice.

    Again, the staff is wasting time when it should be working on bringing more traffic to Hubs. I can't imagine that investors are pleased that traffic to the site has fallen to 2009 levels.

  6. Will Apse profile image86
    Will Apseposted 10 years ago

    Using a copyright notice at all makes you look like an anal-retentive amateur. I'm not surprised HP want to hide it away, lol.

  7. Victoria Lynn profile image88
    Victoria Lynnposted 10 years ago

    All our articles are copyrighted, anyway. And an 8 1/2 x 11 notice wouldn't matter anyway for the sites that scrape. They just copy word for word, copyright and all.

  8. Will Apse profile image86
    Will Apseposted 10 years ago

    I have been swayed by the sheer size of the egos on display and have completely changed my mind.

    This is the notice that I would now suggest:

    This very special and important article was written by the very special and important writer called 'NAME OF HUBBER (all capitals)' and you are incredibly lucky to read it. If you copy this elsewhere you will be chained to a rock and your liver will be gnawed for all eternity, by Marty Cutts, brother of no one important.

    3 iterations of this should be enough. But don't stint yourself...

    1. profile image0
      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lol

    2. psycheskinner profile image84
      psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You seem especially annoyed with people having opinions on the internet recently.  You could just disagree without getting all nasty about it.

      1. profile image0
        Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

        I thought this line was pretty funny. lol

        "If you copy this elsewhere you will be chained to a rock and your liver will be gnawed for all eternity, by Marty Cutts, brother of no one important."

      2. Will Apse profile image86
        Will Apseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        It's not the opinions that annoy me.

 
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