Secu;ar vs. Judeo-Christian - What's Wrong With This?

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   GA Andersonposted 10 years ago

   Is this assessment wrong?
   
   "Everywhere I go folks ask me what has happened to their country. We have gone from a traditional country to a secular society where politically correct thought dominates, especially in the mass media.
   
   It is quite clear that the founders based our justice system on Judeo-Christian tenets, which is why a sculpture of Moses holding the Ten Commandments adorns the Supreme Court building. But today you could never put Moses and the Commandments on a public wall anywhere, the secular progressives would scream.
   
   Enter Jesus, the most famous human being who has ever lived. If you're a child attending a public school and living in a secular home, chances are you know little or nothing about Jesus because the schools are frightened to mention his name.
   
   There's a big difference between philosophy and religion, and Jesus was a philosopher on this Earth. Some believed he was the messiah, others did not, but his message of brotherhood was philosophical.
   
   Don't you think American kids should know the philosophy behind our justice system? No, secular progressives have wiped that out. Here's the bigger picture:
   
   When you have a secular progressive society, behavior changes. Fewer judgments are made, more lenient criminal sentences handed out, abortion and drug use become more acceptable.
   
   With a progressive president and a very left-leaning Democratic Party, you have an acceleration of secularism. The outcome is likely to be a much weaker nation with less discipline, less motivation, and less generosity because the secular religion preaches that it's all about 'me.'
   
   "There is a new dogma, especially in our public schools," but it's a secular humanist dogma. Global warming and redefining marriage are the new dogmas, and most of the secularists have that world view. Jesus is about old-fashioned judgment, and they don't want to be judged!"
   
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   Have we reached a point where having your actions judged is politically incorrect? Is that a good thing?
   
   If the Judeo-Christian ideals said to be the foundation of our justice system were viewed as philosophical instead of religious - would they still be as wrong as they are proclaimed to be now?
   
   ps. If it is not yet obvious - I think this assessment is spot on.
   
   GA

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      janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, our justice system is based on Nordic pagan beliefs. What do you think that little gavel stems from? It's Thor's hammer. (No, I'm not joking, either.)

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         GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Hmm... while I do understand that many of our judicial system principles are derivatives of English law, and I presume Nordic Paganism pre-dated the English, I suppose there may be some influences passed on.
         
         Other than that I would be interested in hearing more from you on how our judicial system is based on Nordic Pagan beliefs. And the bit about Thor's hammer too.
         
         Are you saying the Founding Fathers were Nordic Pagan followers, or admirers? Would you like to be more specific?
         
         I must admit to a bit of skepticism.
         
         GA

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            janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            If I can find a link or two on the subject I'll post it, but it might be a while, I'm kind of busy today.

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            janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I couldn't really find any credible evidence for what I said. So I'll just attribute it to "something I heard some time" and say I am probably mistaken about it.

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               GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.
               
               GA

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                  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  At least I admitted it. Right?

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            Silverspeederposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            England exported English Common law and English Statute law to most parts of the British Empire, and many aspects of that system have survived after Independence or otherwise cessation of British rule. "English law" prior to the American Revolutionary Wars (American War of Independence) is still an influence on United States law, and provides the basis for many American legal traditions and policies. Many jurisdictions that have maintained the use of English Common law continue to incorporate modern developments of the Common law in England, and decisions from England are in many jurisdictions usually considered persuasive.
            
            As we (England) have been invaded many times I am sure lots of laws have come from other sources including a huge swath from the Norman conquest
            
            Also Gavel's have never been used in the English courts.

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               GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yep, that's what I said too. You just added the details - thanks.
               
               ps. That you folks don't use gavels did surprise me. Now I have to erase all those mental images of the bewigged English Magistrate wielding his hammer of authority. Oh well.
               
               GA

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   Old Poolmanposted 10 years ago

   GA - For what it is worth I completely agree with you.
   The PC police are ruining this country, and the "what about me" attitude prevails.  Hard work, dedication, and success are now things to be ashamed of.  To be willing to take risks to achieve more is now viewed as greed.
   We are making it easier and easier for those with little ambition to just stay home, watch TV and smoke dope than we make it for them to learn skills that would provide them a good living.
   Our school system just changes history to support their current teachings.  We have high school graduates who can barely read, write, or do simple math.
   If we could reverse this trend today it would take several generations to get this country back on track.

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      GA Andersonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Good to hear from you again Old Poolman.
      
      I am a bit concerned that it appears it is just us old fogies that hold that opinion. Are we right, or just clinging to a past we see as the good ol' days?
      
      I say we are right, the pendulum has swung too far to the left. I also think you are right about it taking generations to moderate. So we better get started.
      
      GA

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   GA Andersonposted 10 years ago

   What, no one has pegged the author of that "assessment" yet.
   
   I admit to being surprised.
   
   GA

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