Should Syrian Rebels be armed by the US?

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   rhamsonposted 9 years ago

   The debate continues on the Hill as to whether or not the arming of rebels against the Assad regime is a good idea. As we armed rebels against Russia the weapons were turned against us in Afghanistan. Is enemy of my enemy my friend still the norm over there?

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      maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Since I believe that Al-Qaeda, Al nostra, ISIS are US made terrorist groups, I am against arming "rebel" groups since they work for us. So far, we've already armed them but they failed to demolish Syria. How do you think they multiply? How come they possess American weapons already? You need finances, heavy logistics, training to be everywhere at the same time (ubiquitous gift?) how can djihadists with a poor military background succeed efficiently?

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         rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I agree there has probably been some weapons "sharing" from the CIA and other covert agencies and I do believe that the Iraqis dropped their weapons where they fled to avoid capture and or death when some weapons exchanged possession with the ISIS fighters. But that is a willy nilly scenario and hard to track down as with anything else over there. (Remember the millions and millions of dollars on pallets that were mysteriously lost soon after Saddams defeat?) But is there a way we can get some one over there to fight this thing on the ground while we bomb from above. Maybe that would give them some sort of ownership of this region and stop the fluctuating hysterics.

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            maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Were you joking when you alluded to bomb them? So far, according to Scahill's Blackwater (I'm at page 184), those mercenaries are in Iraq to kill and make big bucks. When resistance rises it called terrorism. What is the US doing over there? While Iraqis are getting poorer, the US elite is in control of prevalent Iraqi assets.
            By sending mercenaries, are we there to spread democracy? It is obvious that it is not our objective, it is to inflame the population. When they react to defend their country against our occupation it justifies our eradication of the Iraqis.
            ISIS is not a threat otherwise we would have eliminated it already. We are using them to create chaos and once they created enough shock and awe, we officially ban them stating that they are terrorists. It is another recurring pattern in our behavior.

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               rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               I am dead serious. Bomb the hell out of them if you wish to control them. I haven't heard much from Pakistan recently as they quiver at the mere sound of a drone flying overhead.
               
               We don't need any more reasons for them to hate us by putting Black Ops in the country to stir up more anti American sentiment. We have the crown jewel of sticking it to them with our support of Israel. It is what fuels "ALL" the fires over there. Then again there is the pesky CIA.....

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                  maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  You hid yourself very well under a so-called informed opinion. But, the magic of discussions is that at one point or another, people break their shell and their real persona appears.
                  You didn't answer me yet, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN IRAK?

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                     rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     No Voo Doo here. If I ask for opinions it does not mean I don't have some of my own. I don't think we should put any troops anywhere in the Middle East. It is like the old phrase of the "Camel putting his nose in the tent". Once attacked or wronged the whoop ass begins. History repeating itself as in the Bay of Tonkin or Afghanistan resulting in Iraq's invasion. Better it should be more like Kosovo where NATO led by the US bombed them into submission. If they can't play nice in a political solution then we should at least help those who are innocently caught in the crossfire.

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      psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Given that the Assad regime is the one holding back ISIS, now is certainly not the time (if there is a time) to be pushing for regime change..

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         maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         What are you talking about? How far are you from REALITY? Assad and ISIS are the same? Are you joking? But what is your source and how dare you say such a lie? Assad was elected by a Syrian majority. It doesn't count? What about the self-determination of a country? Who is eating Syrian soldiers' hearts? Who killed Syrian children in Ghouta?
         With the existence of independent info sources, it is a SHAME to read such opinion and it probably represents the "thinking" majority. I'm ashamed to meet in 2014 people that still believe what mainstream media says! Wasn't the weapon of mass destruction lie enough for you to understand what our government was doing without our knowledge? What else do you need?
         What is the intellectual level of this platform?

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            wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            What are you talking about? How far are you from REALITY? CIA and ISIS are the same? Are you joking? But what is your source and how dare you say such a lie?  With the existence of independent info sources, it is a SHAME to read such opinion.  I'm ashamed to meet in 2014 people that still believe what the conspiracy theorists say! 
            
            What is the intellectual level of this platform?

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               maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

               You don't have your own opinion to state or are you speechless. I am proud to go against the mainstream that YOU represent. You are the OLD way of thinking. Russia are commies, Republicans (and democrats) work for the people, the elite has YOUR interests (obviously), America is a GREAT country (with 7,8% of inflation, 23% of unemployment, $70 trillions of debts...), we send mercenaries to kill civilians WHY? Because Chinese are smarter than us. Because Chinese do with diplomacy what we do with drones.
               You can also copy/paste those lines too. I will DEFEND my land against any form of usurpation starting with the elite!

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                  wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I just found it really ironic that you would question someone for not supplying sources of data, or for quoting data that no one believes.  That's all.

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                     maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     You can find all the data necessary on independent websites, where I found them. For starters, Griffin Webster Tarpley wrote about the subject so if it REALLY interested you or psycheskinner your curiosity would have been at least piqued. It wasn't the case, so don't come and open a conversation with me based on mainstream media intox.
                     It belongs to younger generations to open their eyes as for who hides behind the puppets that we elect and the propaganda instilled by our media. It doesn't bother you that the mainstream media is uniform? It doesn't bother you that critical views are inexistent? It bothers me.

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                        wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        But it wasn't about a conversation based on media intox.  It was about a post from someone that perpetually spreads hatred of the west and unfounded conspiracy theories all without a bit of evidence.  Then complains when someone else doesn't provide evidence, either.

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         GA Andersonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         A good point. And a companion point would be how can we know who we would be arming?
         
         GA

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      GA Andersonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      An easy answer is no. An easy explanation is the question "What would we, (the U.S.), think if another country armed rebels/dissidents in a U.S. civil war/rebel uprising?"
      
      GA

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