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  1. profile image0
    reasonablerobbyposted 9 years ago

    Just starting on Bubblews interested to see how I get on

    1. Nadine May profile image72
      Nadine Mayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to Bubblews.

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
        Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Lol.  We are still on HubPages last time I looked.

        1. LindaSmith1 profile image61
          LindaSmith1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          That is what I was thinking!

        2. Nadine May profile image72
          Nadine Mayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          You are so right very sorry!

  2. colorfulone profile image79
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Bubblews is a fun site.

    1. viryabo profile image95
      viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hmmmm!

  3. Solaras profile image96
    Solarasposted 9 years ago

    I did mange to finally get logged back into that site.  Their forgotten password button is working now. So I still have an account, yet remain unpaid.  In the last 3 months I have accrued another $44.00, but will not play there again, so I think that number is effectively stuck.

    Wrote to &Val6, but no response has come my way.  Of course he has over 1200 posts to respond to, many with multiple requests.  Hopeless.

  4. crazyhorsesghost profile image71
    crazyhorsesghostposted 9 years ago

    I know everyone keeps saying how bad they are but they payed me again today for $317.00. They still owe me some very early redemption's I did never get. But I won't give up on them yet.

    1. colorfulone profile image79
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Great payment to get, yay! Glad to hear it.
      I'm holding out hope for your other payments.

    2. Nadine May profile image72
      Nadine Mayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Wow! that is a nice payment to receive. Congratulations!

  5. Bill Yovino profile image88
    Bill Yovinoposted 9 years ago

    What's really funny is that if the original poster of the this thread had published this on Bubblews and had all of these comments, she would have made a lot of money.

    On HubPages, this number of comments receives exactly Bupkis.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image84
      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I should hope so too!   HubPages isn't a social media site, it's a writing site.

    2. Nadine May profile image72
      Nadine Mayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes that was me. I would

    3. Solaras profile image96
      Solarasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If she had posted this on Bubblews she would have had a couple of meaningless and inappropriate comments like, "Keep up the positive attitude, God Bless You and I love Bubblews forever, please pay me."

  6. abidareacode profile image67
    abidareacodeposted 9 years ago

    All these discussion introduced a new site to me namely Bubblews. Still for the time being I adhere with HP.

  7. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    Solaras: You forgot I connected with you, connect back.  Read and like my posts. blah, blah, blah

    Oh, I forgot the Keep on Bubbling!

    1. Solaras profile image96
      Solarasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Happy Bubbling to you too.  Please read my bubbles and comment on them. I just liked all of your Bubbles.

  8. Solaras profile image96
    Solarasposted 9 years ago

    If you want to make a fortune on Bubblews, I suggest you post an offer to help people get their redemptions paid.  Val6 now has almost 1600 requests for assistance on failed payments.

    That is, if they still pay for comments; who knows what they are paying on now.

  9. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    Solaras:  How did you like all of my bubbles when I don't have any. In fact, I had my account deleted.

    Maybe I misunderstood you.  Maybe you added to the goofy comment list.

    1. Solaras profile image96
      Solarasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Goofy comment list.  I like all of your deleted Bubbles in my heart though.

  10. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    LOL!  It took months to get my account deleted and to be able to delete over 300 posts.

    Then the TOS changed drastically to include information regarding class action lawsuits. 

    I have seen where past members are bringing a class action against Bubblews.

  11. TaviWrites profile image59
    TaviWritesposted 9 years ago

    I had well over 1500 articles there but be careful because they always change and flip up the policy. I think that it is a waste of time because you can earn a lot more from passive income on a more reputable website. Bubblews WAS great if you were new to writing but they have also removed the view stats which is a huge pain for determining the right seo and evergreen content. The recent changes are a big disaster and I will never return over there. You should also note that you will have OCD for the simple fact that for every picture or video that you post you MUST mention the source or else they might ban your IP for life. Just be careful over there smile lol

  12. Bard of Ely profile image80
    Bard of Elyposted 9 years ago

    I have never had any problems at Bubblews but you do have to wait a long time there and this has increased.

    The site has made many improvements like getting rid of spammers and adding a Pixabay search option and personally I am optimistic about Bubblews.

    1. sparkster profile image87
      sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Bard, you do know that they are not paying anything for external views on posts that are more than one hour old don't you?  That means no more passive income!  And they are now paying 1c for 5 likes and quarter of a cent per view?  Yesterday I made three posts there and my bank balance hardly budged yet this time last year I was averaging $2 per post.  It just doesn't seem worth the time or effort any more (unless they decide to increase payment rates again).

      1. PinoyMom profile image70
        PinoyMomposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Yes they are no longer paying for views but their website encountered glitch yesterday that's why the amount displayed on your bank is not accurate.  A staff of them made a post about Notification Errors and his name is Kevin Kimball.

        1. sparkster profile image87
          sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks for that information, I didn't realize there was a glitch affecting the bank.  I'm going to head over there now and see if there's any or much difference.  Do you know if this glitch has been resolved now?

          1. PinoyMom profile image70
            PinoyMomposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I can't post a comment earlier. I think there is still a glitch. Create a support ticket.

        2. TaviWrites profile image59
          TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          wow I did not know that they have stopped paying for views. Seems like a shocker to me.

          1. sparkster profile image87
            sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Yep, I used to make between $1 to $2 overnight every night there but now I make nothing!  Lots of bubblers have been complaining about it.

            1. PinoyMom profile image70
              PinoyMomposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I think it's much better to reserve your posts until the glitch is gone. I also got cloudfare error earlier just like the same error I got with their old platform.

            2. TaviWrites profile image59
              TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              this may have to do with them removing money from the views, this is so sad and frustrating.

            3. NateB11 profile image87
              NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I've had the same problem, so I've quit writing there. I used to make a dollar or two in passive income a day; now I'm making pennies. Plus, a couple redemptions not paid. The site is not interesting enough to keep me there for the fun of it.

              1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
                Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Me too Nate.

                I made one post this morning - it has earned 50 cents.  Not worth the time spent checking.

                1. NateB11 profile image87
                  NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Exactly, Mark. I've lost interest in the site, slowly but surely, as they've made the various changes over the past few months.

                2. Esperanta profile image73
                  Esperantaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Wow! I'm lucky if I make a 10 cents a post. Have stopped bothering. Will throw in a few mindless posts from time to time to get me to the next payout and then I'm out of there. Facebook is much better for unpaid socialising than Bubblews!

                  1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
                    Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Yeah lol... I realised after typing it that it was actually a small fortune!

                  2. NateB11 profile image87
                    NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I was thinking that too. Fifty cents a post aint bad.

              2. colorfulone profile image79
                colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                I use to earn a nice passive income on Bubblews for doing not much of anything really. It was nice while it lasted, and I am glad I got in on the action when it was hot.

                I redeemed on 10-27-14. Since then I have published 4 bubbles, that I haven't had the time to reply to comments on and return visits...I'm so far behind (but, I will catch-up).

                But, for not having been on Bubblews much at all, I have $9.31 in the Bank in the past 13 days. Not as great as it use to be, but its still easy money from my point of view.

  13. Dressage Husband profile image67
    Dressage Husbandposted 9 years ago

    I am not on Bubblews and from what I have read here they appear to have a non-sustainable business model.
    For those inclined to take the risk TSU is offering upto 90% of advertizing revenues. However their model is invite only and looks surprisingly like a typical MLM pyramid scheme (It probably is!).

    In the short term TSU would pay you all very well, but if the model works like they hope it will saturate fast, at which point their share is too small to upgrade servers etc. and they collapse taking the millions in unpaid revenue with them.

    Oh they are a registered business (in Panama) so good luck in getting it back.

    If something appears too good to be possible run as it probably is. Bubblews sounds awfully similar to me. It just has not made its structure as public as TSU, and like people say. If HP with all its rules and good writing can only pay $5 CPM how are Bubblews going to sustain their payouts when Google slap them?

    I do not believe it to be possible and neither should you. By all means take a risk, but only to the extent of what you can afford to lose! My 10 cents for what it is worth, the signs are there.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image84
      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The signs have been there right from the start!   The thing is, Bubblews is not a writing site it's a social site - so if anyone was putting a lot of work into writing articles there, they were  missing the point.   It is and always has been a place to write throwaway stuff, so if it folds - who cares, so long as you get your last payout?

      1. Dressage Husband profile image67
        Dressage Husbandposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Just do not put too much effort into it as you may not!

  14. helpavisitor profile image61
    helpavisitorposted 9 years ago

    Online business? It is just not easy like bread and butter. It involves trust and risk with a lot of hard work.
    You work hard writing and reading, they work hard to make sure they are able to keep the regulations of those that provide them with the money they pay out to writers. I respect the writers and raise my hat for those that are able to create avenue for writers to earn money. It is not an easy job.

  15. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 9 years ago

    It must be a comment on the whole industry that my hard luck story of 'only' earning fifty cents for a post is greeted like some kind of literary achievement.

    Get ready Seth Godin.  Your ass is next.

  16. Bill Yovino profile image88
    Bill Yovinoposted 9 years ago

    It's funny how people reply with "I've never posted there but I know it's a scam". Typical Internet garbage.

    Bubblews is still paying for views, however the the rates have changed. An enormous number of Bubblers reside in third-world countries, so their potential value to advertisers is not as high as someone who resides in a country where there is more disposable income.

    If most of your views come from Bangladesh, Laos, and Vietnam, you're per-view rate will be lower than if your views come from the US, UK, or Canada.

    So it matters where the viewer resides, not where the poster resides.

    1. TaviWrites profile image59
      TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      To be honest it is kind of weird because no one who works for bubblews and clicks on bubblews ads actually buys something. I used to run GNU/Linux distros that came in with ad blockers and I am sure that anyone who has enough brains has used such a distro because of the huge loading time on bubblews. In fact most of the Internet users are educated and they do not buy something because of a simple ad on a website where they may spend more than 10 hours a day as this is what a lot of people from third world countries do. I also think that setting geographical barriers for users is a sign that the website is going in the wrong way. I had over 1500 articles and a lot of them were featured and commented upon by the bubblews team but I have deleted my account because they have set geographical limits and now they just want free content from Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia. Well they got it wrong, the future will not have any sort of geographical barriers and they need to sort their stuff out and delete and restrict on the basis of quality not geographical location. This is a kind of virtual holocaust. Also it is important to mention the fact that Bubblews accepts only paypal and this is again a sort of DRM since I a lot of users have a receiving limit restriction. DRM is like a disease and websites who adopt it are the enemies of our freedom. I support people from any country. I do not care if someone is from Vietnam or North Korea as long as he or she submits good content. I think that they should do something to attract people who offer good content instead of deleting people on the basis of nationality because this is exactly what they are doing. They are now taking part in a virtual holocaust.

      1. Jean Bakula profile image93
        Jean Bakulaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I don't think anyone clicks on ads anymore either. Especially on a website where you are just reading for fun, or writing for a hobby and maybe a little extra cash as a bonus.

    2. Dressage Husband profile image67
      Dressage Husbandposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Bill, The collapse of Squidoo should be a warning to you and others like you. You have not bothered to check who was making the comment before you wrote it off as another piece of garbage.

      Just for your information I was a Computer Audit Manager for over 30 years and a specialist in Security and Fraud. I am sorry but Bubblews will not be able to raise sufficient in Ad revenue to continue paying at their rates unless they reach an audience in excess of all the current users of the web.

      They already have many non paid amounts and this will only get worse. At some point they will no longer be able to raise capital and the collapse will be inevitable. The signs are there already.

      Squidoo paid out less and had better content, they collapsed! Go figure!

      1. TaviWrites profile image59
        TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I agree with you. There were some people that used to submit a huge amount of nonsense over there. They were clearly using two or three profile to submit total nonsense for months and months. Now what bubblews is doing is wrong because they are basically burning a city because of one soldier. I think that this is totally ridiculous. They just want to hire 10 people that can come up with a sort of miracle strategy that can keep their costs down. They don't understand the value of human capital and they certainly don't understand the core value of human evaluators.

    3. sparkster profile image87
      sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree - I have tested and they are definitely not paying for views and you can test it yourself. The majority of my external traffic has always been from UK and I know the absolute minimum amount of traffic I get from Twitter after tweeting a post (which has remained consistent over the past six months)  - if I tweet one of my posts (since the changes) I get a lot of external traffic, as always, yet since these changes whenever I tweet a post or share it on Facebook it doesn't make a shred of difference to my balance - they are absolutely 100% definitely not paying for external views and if they say they are then they are lying.

  17. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    How many views do you get per day!!!!  OOOPS!  They don't tell you that anymore.  No, they are not paying for views anymore!

    1. sparkster profile image87
      sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      As I stated in a response above, I know the absolute minimum amount of external traffic that I used to get after sharing my Bubblews posts, though on average it was much higher.  Most of my external traffic is also from UK. So I can tell simply by tweeting one of my posts that you are absolutely correct - they are not paying for external views any more, only views that come from members of the site.

  18. Mark Ewbie profile image82
    Mark Ewbieposted 9 years ago

    I am outraged by this genocidal outfit masquerading as a social website.  Thinking I could have been duped by this madness has given me a rectal twitch.

    My post has only earned 6 cents since I last checked which I can only blame on the sheer hypocrisy of.... (fill in later)

    1. TaviWrites profile image59
      TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to the club, it seems to be getting worse Mark. The fact is that I loved the old blue design with the three bubbles, they seem to be making everything worse. I miss the old bubblews that I have discovered almost a year ago sad everything is gone now sad it is pointless.

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
        Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        A year ago was definitely better for money.  I had some hope up till a month ago.  It has rather crashed since then.  However... getting paid anything for what are not much more than status updates... well it is better than most places I guess.

        1. Bill Yovino profile image88
          Bill Yovinoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Too hip for the room wink

          1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
            Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Most people miss it Bill. It is mainly for my own amusement that I bother.

            1. colorfulone profile image79
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I wonder why that is, Mark. Hip is hip!

              I cannot complain. I just posted a bubble about 25 minutes ago, replied to 5 comments and returned visits, and my Bank went from $9.80 to $10.71 so far. That's an easy .91 cents for posting a picture of the day and 1597 characters. I can almost retire for the night on that.

  19. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    I can't believe people are wasting their time there.  Now, they don't even know what they are to be paid for and how much. Bubblews won't reveal that information as it did when they started.   I got smart and left.

    1. TaviWrites profile image59
      TaviWritesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      At this point in time it is wiser to leave

    2. Craftypicks profile image76
      Craftypicksposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just came from there and was thinking the same thing you just wrote. They aren't disclosing views. This means for all we know residual bubbles that have been bouncing around in social media could still be making money, but we would never know if that money was getting to us or not. Smells very bad to me.

      1. imgreencat profile image60
        imgreencatposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I said it months ago and even wrote a post about it called 'slide of hand'.  Bubblers are not being paid of external views but someone is.  I also believe they were gradually lowering the rate of money we were getting for external view for quite a while before they announced it.  I say a decline in my views nearly 3 months prior to the change. 

        Today it is really smelling like a sinking ship.  I would like to get the $20 in my bank but instead will try to cut my losses.  Wait and see might be the best answer.

      2. viryabo profile image95
        viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Not as bad as the fact that my 500 odd posts are still live AFTER I'VE BEEN SHUT OUT for about a month now. I can't log in, comment, or post.

        I have written tons of emails. . . . you guessed right. No response except 1 automated one! I want to delete my posts, but i can't even get past my profile page talk less of being able to delete them.

        And my posts are still getting the odd likes as at last week.

        1. Solaras profile image96
          Solarasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Have you tried the reset password button.  That worked for me once.

          1. viryabo profile image95
            viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for your reply. I can't even get to where to reset my password. The left sidebar is there, but it's a blank grey block!

            1. sparkster profile image87
              sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I've had a similar problem to this before.Try a different browser.  If that doesn't work try another different browser.  I think I had to go through about 5 different browsers before it actually worked for me!

              1. viryabo profile image95
                viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Is that right? I will certainly try this out and see if it works. Thank you.

        2. Nadine May profile image72
          Nadine Mayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          That I could not login to bubbles for a month happened to me. That is when I started this forum. I did get help from a bubble member through Google+ who suggested that I switched from Firefox to Google and from there on I now can log it. Try a new browser.
          My hope is to still be able to redeem this month, but I have $7 to go and in the past that was not a problem, but now its a lot harder.

  20. Cari Kay 11 profile image88
    Cari Kay 11posted 9 years ago

    I'm still wasting my time there smile I'm making about $6 to $7 a day there and I enjoy it.  I'm not one of the ones spending all day.  I go spend about 20 minutes at different times throughout the day and that seems to work.

    Other than views changing, all seems status quo for me.  Having used AdSense for years, their rate of pay for views made no sense to me.  That did not seem sustainable.

    1. sparkster profile image87
      sparksterposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Adsense's payment rates are currently down by about 30% to 50% at the moment anyway.  In fact, every site I use has started to tighten right up, all at the same time, with most of them making cuts by about 50%.  Not only that but even companies and corporations are also staring to tighten up almost to the point where consumers are being ripped off - I guess they must be saving for Xmas!

  21. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    If you have cookies to the site blocked, it won't let you do a thing.

    1. viryabo profile image95
      viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I wish i knew how to do that, whether i did, or not (block cookies). How do i check if cookies have been blocked?

  22. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    which browser are you using.

    1. viryabo profile image95
      viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Firefox.

  23. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago
    1. viryabo profile image95
      viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for the link.

    2. viryabo profile image95
      viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It's on "always accept third party cookies" I assume they are not blocked?

  24. helpavisitor profile image61
    helpavisitorposted 9 years ago

    You will have nice experience here, i have learnt a lot from here and this has greatly helped me get on well. There are many interesting articles here to read. To use HP to make money, you may need to read the testimonies of those that have been making real money here. I have no disappointment reading and writing.

  25. abidareacode profile image67
    abidareacodeposted 9 years ago

    Now I also joined Bubblews.But no idea how to improve or how to reach a goal since there is no sign boards like forum or supporters.Only one thing is attractive - The size of posts which make any one to read it completely.

    1. Uzochukwu Mike profile image78
      Uzochukwu Mikeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      abidareacode, you better forget about Bubblews because they lack organization and their payment is not steady. Avoid heart break.

  26. chaitanyasaivb profile image67
    chaitanyasaivbposted 9 years ago

    I may not agree with your words, Because, Even, Its not fair to say that, Most of the people from the countries, you have above said were trying to scam Bubblews. Because, Never separate any people with country. You might have been paid from Bubblews. So, How can you understand the pain suffered from the writers, who has not been paid for their hard work, even though they have followed all the rules.

  27. paradigmsearch profile image61
    paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

    I'm working up the energy to do another rampaging rant about them. And it will be placed where it will do them the most damage. I'm waiting until December before giving up on my August payment.

  28. chaitanyasaivb profile image67
    chaitanyasaivbposted 9 years ago

    Even, Its a waste of time, to expect our payments from Bubblews. Because, It has never paid it members on time, might be it has never paid to this members, for their hard work. Most of the writers were unable to realize the fact that, they will not be paid for their articles. Even, its not too late for the people, who were writing articles for Bubblews, to stop their work and think of some legit websites which pays for their hard work.

  29. LindaSmith1 profile image61
    LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

    Pinoy: I just went to bubbles site. There are ads on the posts.  The ads on home page are no longer there. I saw maybe one on home page.

  30. PinoyMom profile image70
    PinoyMomposted 9 years ago

    I can't see the ads, even on their featured articles, I can't see the advertisements, maybe because I'm in the Philippines.

  31. Pcunix profile image89
    Pcunixposted 9 years ago

    I wouldn't say it is a scam.  I've made hundreds of dollars there and never had a payment issue.

    However: they are deplorable programmers and are clueless as to how things should work. Large parts of Bubblews have been broken since day one and remain so.  Search, notifications and tags all work poorly and sporadically.  They keep saying they have fixed this or that, but they never do.  They do dumb things like restricting editing to a 24 hour window and letting plagiarism run rampant - they've even "Featured" plagiarized posts!

    They are a bunch of fools who had a good idea. They may survive in spite of their own bumbling, but it will truly be a miracle.

    Of course to a greater or lesser extent we could say the same about any article site, including this one.

    1. NateB11 profile image87
      NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I totally agree with you about Bubblews. I don't believe anything malevolent is going on with admin there, I totally think they're incompetent though. Idealistic about their idea for that site, but don't know how to run the site correctly. That's also what they seem like to me; bumbling, clueless. I'm a little mad at them these days because I have a couple missed payments and they lowered the pay rate; both of which I think can be blamed on incompetence; they never could maintain their pay rate in the first place, so inevitably had to lower it; but it got everyone used to the (for writing sites) unusually high pay rate. The missed payments thing is obviously incompetence; they either lost my redemptions because they don't know what they're doing or they can't pay me because they are trying to play catch-up because they were paying out more than they were making.

      Also, I think, and I think you alluded to this when you were talking about the difficult interface, they don't understand user experience. It's an okay site, but much of it is unpleasant.

      And, as you say, they basically have no effective way to deal with problems such as the problem with plagiarism. This I think is related to their issue with making payments. Kind of rinky-dink.

      1. Pcunix profile image89
        Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Rinky-dink is an excellent word choice smile

        I do enjoy the site. The money, even when it was much higher, was never enough to matter, but it's just a different kind of place.  Looser, more relaxed.  Still run by fools, though.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image84
      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You said it, in a nutshell.

      1. Thomas Swan profile image96
        Thomas Swanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        But there's a point at which negligence becomes willful negligence. Not responding to emails and messages about unpaid earnings, deleting people's accounts and not giving them a reason, having unwritten rules and using those rules to delete people, and much much more. You can't blame that on them being "deplorable programmers" or a "bunch of fools" who are "bumbling" about. From the start, they decided that's how they wanted to run things.

        Also, I think some people need to learn a bit more about what a scam is. Another word for scam is "con", which is short for confidence trick. How do they build your confidence? Usually by giving you (or letting you earn) some money. Bubblews is no different. Nearly everyone who has concluded Bubblews is a scam has been paid at least one redemption. I can testify to that because I've heard hundreds of stories on my hub who all pretty much say the same thing!

        Confidence Trick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
        See: Convincer.

        1. Pcunix profile image89
          Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Not really.  From the start they had insufficient staff to handle the volume of complaints they get due to their incompetence.

          Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.  THAT is Bubblews.

          1. Pcunix profile image89
            Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            BTW, the latest reasoning from the True Believers is that the programmers are so busy working on the NEXT revamping of Bubblews from the ground up that they can't fix all that is broken now.

            That ignores that they do keep TRYING and failing to fix things, of course smile

            1. viryabo profile image95
              viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Poor souls!

          2. Thomas Swan profile image96
            Thomas Swanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            It sounds like a convenient excuse to me. If you have insufficient staff to respond to critical emails about unpaid earnings then you have a choice:

            1. Hire more staff and pay a little less because being an honest business is more important.
            2. Choose to ignore the emails and allow people to be scammed out of their earnings.

            I don't think you can blame choosing 2 on stupidity.

            Regardless, how does Arvind find the time to do interviews with sycophants, or write lengthy bubbles of his own? They have plenty of free time and, to even run a business like Bubblews, I wouldn't call them stupid.

            1. NateB11 profile image87
              NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I agree that at some point it becomes a scam; even willful incompetence. I do believe it started out as total incompetence at which point they had to cover themselves; for instance, by hiding views. And then the various excuses.

              One reason I think it went down like that is because of their early payment methods. Way back they said they could pay with Paypal, gift card and I think even check. My first redemption I chose the gift card. It never showed up. I emailed them. They said "we sent it out". Still never got it. Next redemption, I just used Paypal, and then started getting my payments. Then, somewhere down the line they say they only pay via Paypal. Notice they didn't say, "Oh, we messed up with the other payment methods, couldn't make it work", etc. They covered themselves by just kind of all of a sudden, kind of sneakily, saying they only pay via Paypal; no reference to the prior payment methods.

              I think they're incompetence landed them in a desperate scramble to cover themselves.

              1. Pcunix profile image89
                Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                They screwed that up too, trying to pay people as "Friends and Family".  They got caught and referred to it as a "Paypal problem" smile

            2. NateB11 profile image87
              NateB11posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Also, I find his interviews and pontificating Bubbles silly at this point. They are spending more time with hype, less time with running the site correctly.

            3. Marisa Wright profile image84
              Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I just finished fixing a website for a client who had paid $1200 to have it designed by someone else. 

              That client still doesn't appreciate just how badly designed the site was.  All she knew was that she'd been hacked (because of a glaring security loophole, as it turned out).  But the coding was bad, the "responsive" design wasn't responsive, the fonts weren't rendering properly, it was horribly slow - the list goes on.  The thing was full of horrible bugs.  Worse, this site was built on Wordpress - it's really hard to make a mess of Wordpress, but they'd managed it.

              If you look at the website of the company who built that site, it looks very professional, with lots of good references, and their staff seem to be well qualified. 

              The client isn't stupid, but she doesn't know anything about how to code a website, so she didn't know what a dreadful product she was getting - it looked OK on the surface.  It's quite possible Arvind hired what HE thought was a crack team of developers to create his site (after all he had plenty of money to throw at them), but clearly they weren't as great as he thought.

              1. Dressage Husband profile image67
                Dressage Husbandposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Marissa, What was the point of this comment in the context of Bubblews

                1. Marisa Wright profile image84
                  Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I was replying to a comment by colorfulone that "they are brilliant to come up with a site like Bubblews in my eyes. I couldn't do that in a million years."

                  The person who came up with the idea for Bubblews isn't the person who coded it, and quite possibly not the person who set up the administration side either.  Arvind could well be like my client - he thought he hired a great company who were fully capable of coding the site, and now he's sitting at the top of the pyramid, not realising what a dog's breakfast things really are. 

                  I guess I'm just saying that there could have been brilliance in the conception, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been incompetence in the execution.

                  1. Dressage Husband profile image67
                    Dressage Husbandposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    OK wink

                  2. colorfulone profile image79
                    colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I guess it all depends on what their vision is for the site, Marisa. They have held those cards pretty close to their chest. Hopefully, they haven't reached all of their goals, yet.

          3. viryabo profile image95
            viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I have to disagree with you Pcunix. Bubblews is not stupid. I also don't think they are incompetent.

            Making an effort to address at least a quarter of complaints, but not being able to do better than that can be referred to as being incompetent. Paying some members and defaulting on payments for others is not stupid. It is intentional.

            I have made a few hundred dollars on Bubblews, got paid 17 out of 21 redemption(s). And though i can't log into my account for some strange reason my posts are still up & live, I'm not angry with them or anything (YET).

            I just think they are trying to take advantage of the fact that nowhere on the net can you earn quick and fast, than there.

            So to them and Arvind especially, it's like they are saying . . . "Ignore the rabble rousers. If they can't accept it and be thankful, let them buzz off".

            1. Pcunix profile image89
              Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              If you don't think they are incompetent, you aren't paying attention.

              1. viryabo profile image95
                viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Oh I'm paying attention alright. It's really a matter of opinion.

                I still say they know what they are doing. This may come across to some as incompetence, but to me, it's a well hatched plan to run for X number of years, make tons of money then close shop!

                1. Solaras profile image96
                  Solarasposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  If Arvind was contrite in his communications with his "subjects," he would gain much more sympathy and understanding from me. Rather than stating something along the lines of, "We are having issues, here is where to go to try to get help," users are treated to messianic posts about how they are doing things no man has tried before, on frontiers where no man has dared go before.

                  He is no Captain Kirk.  Who, as it turns out, was a jerk too.  They are false from the get go - "Speak Freely, Write your World!" But don't say anything negative about B or we will shut down your account.  We might shut it down if we are tired of paying people in your country.  We might or might not pay you, that is up to our interpretation of our unwritten rules on any given day...

                  They are not "kids" who got in over their heads; this has gone on too long.  They are "kids" now getting legal advise to obfuscate their business practices and payment schemes, since they should be genuinely concerned about a class action law suit claiming RICO - a pattern of racketeering that results in treble damages.  You only need to engage in your fraud 3 times for it to stick as a pattern - I think at least 300+ people can come up with a legitimate argument against them, perhaps as many 3000 users could join in.

                  Strike suit lawyers lick their chops at such numbers.

                  1. Pcunix profile image89
                    Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    You are so right about that. Some of his posts would be fine IF there wasn't so much he ignores!  But he thinks he is brilliant and of course the fawning sycophants reinforce his opinion of himself. The first time I left a very slightly negative comment on one of his posts, he deleted it. But the negatives have been growing, with more people referencing, so he has to leave them now. Still, the cheerleaders go on cheering, so his narcissism doesn't change.



                    Well, I and others have said plenty that is negative and have not been shut down.



                    I don't think that would fly.

  32. PinoyMom profile image70
    PinoyMomposted 9 years ago

    I think the problem is on my end.  A fellow bubbler of mine which is a Filipino confirmed that she saw some advertisements on Bubblews.  My Firefox browser is infected so I'm using Google Chrome right now.  I'm still waiting for my first payment with them.  Since I'm from Asia, I have to wait for at least 60 days before submitting a ticket for unpaid redemption.

  33. ijdmtoy profile image40
    ijdmtoyposted 9 years ago

    +1

    There was a malware issue with Bubblews. I have experienced and have also read others talked about this too.  However I agree with you, that doesn't mean Bubblews did it deliberately - any site can get hacked.There was a malware issue with

    1. Craftypicks profile image76
      Craftypicksposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      They have been shut down by Google twice for spyware and viruses. They cleaned it up quickly, but they went down during that time for about a day.

    2. colorfulone profile image79
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It could have been because of their inexperience with what companies to allow to run ads. That was my feeling, because of past experiences with other sites with the same issues.

      1. Pcunix profile image89
        Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        They are inexperienced period.  The problem is that THEY think they are brilliant smile

        1. colorfulone profile image79
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Well, they are brilliant to come up with a site like Bubblews in my eyes. I couldn't do that in a million years. I'm not a mind reader, so I would never venture to say they think they are.  Are you a mind reader? smile

          1. Pcunix profile image89
            Pcunixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Oh come on.  I was paying guest authors as early as 2004.  So were many other people.  No brilliance.

 
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