Hubpro Making Changes that Reduce My Traffic

Jump to Last Post 1-4 of 4 discussions (11 posts)
  1. Pop Culture World profile image82
    Pop Culture Worldposted 8 years ago

    I don't know who is editing the hubs for HubPro, but I am getting extremely upset about it. I had an already successful hub edited, and the editor took out all of my links to corresponding hubs in the body of the hub.

    One of the techniques I learned on HubPages to increase traffic is to write articles that compliment each other. This is one of the reasons I get traffic on my other hubs -- because I link them together. This editor and these changes are actively reducing my traffic.

    So now, with HubPro, I have to constantly worry that my hubs are going to be changed and my traffic will be reduced as a result.

    I want my corresponding hub links left alone. If it isn't broke, it shouldn't be fixed.

    1. profile image0
      calculus-geometryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You are free to revert the changes, whether it's HubPro Premium (the program you can opt out of) or HubPro Basic (the program you can't opt out of). I've only had hubs edited with HubPro Basic, but each time they've emailed me a document with the editor's additions and deletions highlighted, and that way you can easily see what edits you may need to revert.

      1. Pop Culture World profile image82
        Pop Culture Worldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you!

    2. Phyllis Doyle profile image92
      Phyllis Doyleposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      All three commenters, Calculus, Glenn and DrMark, have some good tips.

      I would follow Glenn's advice on putting the links at the bottom of the hub under the title Reference - and put the links in a 'link capsule'.  That is what the link cap is for. If you put the links in the body it looks spammy and is annoying to the reader.

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Phyllis, that's what I was trying to point out. One of the things HubPro focuses on is reducing anything that comes across as spammy. Thanks for clarifying that.

  2. Glenn Stok profile image96
    Glenn Stokposted 8 years ago

    You have to ask yourself if those links add value for the reader. You also have to think about reader friendliness. If your main concern is trying to get readers to look at more of your hubs before they even finished reading, then you are not writing for the reader.

    Continuous links throughout the body of the text, as you said you are doing, become annoying - and most readers will ignore them anyway because they want to read what you have to say (you would think).

    On the other hand if readers click one of the links and leave your hub prematurely, this reduces it's ranking because they didn't stay to finish reading. In the long run, Google will send less people to your hub. You're saying that you get good traffic. But you probably would do even better if you weren't making people leave.

    These are most likely some of the reasons why the HubPro editor eliminated the body-text links.

    A better way to do it, if you want to make reference to other hubs, and if it truly adds value, then place those links at the bottom of your article under the heading "References". This makes the hub reader friendly and still provides access to other resources that you referenced.

    1. Pop Culture World profile image82
      Pop Culture Worldposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm writing for the reader, which is why there is traffic on these hubs in the first place. I don't have annoying, continuous links willy-nilly either.

      1. Glenn Stok profile image96
        Glenn Stokposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I'm just trying to help. You asked a question and you complained about HubPro. I answered you and explained why they do what they do.

        If you don't like their changes you can revert back to your version. We all know you are getting good traffic because HubPro only works with top performing hubs. The point is that you may get even more traffic by making it more reader friendly.  That's what the HubPro editor was doing for you.

  3. DrMark1961 profile image96
    DrMark1961posted 8 years ago

    Glenn Stok said "On the other hand if readers click one of the links and leave your hub prematurely, this reduces it's ranking because they didn't stay to finish reading. In the long run, Google will send less people to your hub. You're saying that you get good traffic. But you probably would do even better if you weren't making people leave." but this is untrue. As long as you add HTML so that the link opens up in another tab, the reader stays on your page as long as they are reading the second page. Google does not say "Oh my, the reader was only on that page for 30 seconds", they say "The reader was on that page for 3 minutes". It does not mean you get less people to your hub.
    I think calculus-geometry gave you very good advice. The first 5 hubs I had edited by HubPro came out very well and the traffic is still good. The latest hub was edited by a different person and she made changes like a MFP image that had writing across the dogs face. (No one is going to want to pin an image like that.) If the changes made to your hub were not good for traffic, change them back the way they were before.

    1. Glenn Stok profile image96
      Glenn Stokposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes this is true Dr Mark, assuming one sets the option so that HP makes the link open in another tab or window. But that doesn't solve the problem with reader friendliness. It's still annoying to many readers if they constantly see links as they are trying to read.

  4. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

    Making the hub more readers friendly is the goal, but whether or not it succeeded is an empirical question not a matter of faith.  As for putting al the links at the end, that is the opposite of what the hub style guide recommends.  If the link is helpful it should be linked from the relevant part of the text.

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)